According to the Owners Manual on my 2022 PanAmS - you can also use 20W50 Synthetic - I prefer Amsoil

I almost don't have the heart to tell you that your 1/2" socket is going on a 13mm bolt....

Thanks brother. I'm on a Colorado BDR will be doing the first 1000mile oil change on the road. You just saved me the time of having to figure it all out.

@BackDraftBikes

3 жыл бұрын

Right on!

Try using a filter wrench. Also, you don't "lube the oil filter housing," you oil the "O" ring.

the manuals say to check oil on the side stand with the engine at operating temperature, I changed mine a while back, and was on the center stand at first, I decided to put the bike on the side stand, and I got quite a bit more oil out over draining on the center stand, next time I am doing the whole oil change on the side stand,

@JustAnotherLuke94

Жыл бұрын

not sure what the poster is reading but per the Service Manual.. Add 3 quarts and run for 10 seconds.. THEN ADD JUST ENOUGH OIL TO BRING THE DIPSTICK TO THE "ADD QUART MARK" So you only add enough oil to bring the oil to the very bottom line... Then.. when you actually run the engine to operating temp.. you should be right on the money at full.. Dont ask me why.. Its a Harley thing lol

The owners manual says a different weight of oil. And it also says to do the change on the jiffy stand, not the centre stand. Maybe it effects how it drains.

@runeveryday1069

2 жыл бұрын

jiffy stand may also help if you fill the new oil-filter half-way with oil ( as recommended in manual ) before screwing it back on. Prevent the oil from spilling out of the filter.

@JustAnotherLuke94

Жыл бұрын

@@runeveryday1069 uhhh it does not say anything about filling oil filter 9. See Figure 2-5. Install new oil filter. a. Lubricate gasket with a thin film of clean engine oil. b. Install new oil filter. c. Hand-tighten oil filter three-quarters of a turn after gasket first contacts filter mounting surface. Do NOT use oil filter wrench for installation.

@runeveryday1069

Жыл бұрын

@@JustAnotherLuke94 page 139 of the 2022 PanAm owners manual under step 9 sub-line (b.) “ Fill new oil filter half full with engine oil.” Wonder how important it is to fill oil filter 1/2 way. Double chk and let me know if your manual is similar or if they changed things at some point.

@JustAnotherLuke94

Жыл бұрын

@@runeveryday1069 I copied it line for line out of the Service Manual.. Technicians dont use owners manual for service. Therefore as a HD tech I am gonna go with the service manual on this one.. wouldnt be the first time the two teams didnt communicate before typing out the books.

@runeveryday1069

Жыл бұрын

@@JustAnotherLuke94 Good info. Thanks for posting. Nice to have a pro technician reply.

Sorry but you are doing it wrong. You should drain the oil on the jiffy stand, because you'll still have a little over 1/2 of old oil in the engine if you keep the bike on the center stand. Also, priming the engine filter is better than installing dry. But what I know, just working with bikes for over 20 years.

Looks good, but I would want to at least try something else to loosen the oil filter, before mangling the thing up with pliers. A strap wrench would probably break it loose. After the first oil change, you should be able to use an end cap type remover.

You just have to touch the start button then let off no need to hold it down.

4T means four stroke

Need that toce pipe for that bad boy

Thanks you're awesome

Hola, ¿Qué filtro de aceite le has puesta a la PAM? la marca de aceite no la encuentro por España , podría valer un Castrol Powers 1 o Motul ? gracias

I HD really not using any crush washers? (been riding BMWs and they have crush washers that have to be replaced on every oil change and just bought a PA.

Can you please show how to replace a bent spoke in the PanAmerica special?

@BackDraftBikes

2 жыл бұрын

Replace, very difficult. You can order new spokes, but it is tricky to keep the wheel straight. If just one, not too bad.

So I just came accross this video and its crazy how many people say "the manual says this.." When it says NO such thing at all... HERE IS THE REFILL PROCEDURE DIRECTLY FROM THE MANUAL 13. Add an initial volume of engine oil. Refer to Table 2-4. Table 2-4. Initial Oil Fill ITEM QUANTITY Engine oil initial fill 3 qt (2.8 L) 14. Install filler plug/dipstick. 15. Run engine for 10 seconds. 16. Turn off engine and remove filler plug/dipstick. --------------------------------------------- 17. See See Figure 2-3 .. Add only enough oil to bring the level to the add quart mark. --------------------------------------------- 18. Verify proper oil level. a. Start engine and carefully check for oil leaks around drain plug and oil filter. b. Check engine oil level. See Check Engine Oil Level (Page 2-7). in this section.

@JustAnotherLuke94

Жыл бұрын

PROPER WAY TO CHECK ENGINE OIL ALLOW ENGINE TO IDLE FOR APPROX 10 MINTUES OR RIDE UNIT UNTIL TEMP REACHES 180 DEGREES OR HIGHER... TURN ENGINE OFF AND PLACE ON SIDE STAND.. PROMPTLY CHECK DIP STICK BY REMOVIN.. WIPING CLEAN AND RETIGHTENING BEFORE CHECKING

Hello, what oil filter have you put on the PAM? I can't find the brand of oil in Spain, could a Castrol Powers 1 or Motul be worth it? thank you

@BackDraftBikes

11 ай бұрын

I bought harley OEM.

Would have been nice for you to have told us how much of the fourth quart you actually used.

@BackDraftBikes

3 жыл бұрын

Just a little bit of it. The manual is vague as the bike will take more or less depending on the stroke of the motor when stopped. The oiling system is very complex, and sometimes it may take more than others, hence why the manual doesn't even tell you. I think in my case it took 1/2 pint. Ride Safe

@JustAnotherLuke94

Жыл бұрын

not sure what the poster is reading but per the Service Manual.. Add 3 quarts and run for 10 seconds.. THEN ADD JUST ENOUGH OIL TO BRING THE DIPSTICK TO THE "ADD QUART MARK" So you only add enough oil to bring the oil to the very bottom line... Then.. when you actually run the engine to operating temp.. you should be right on the money at full.. Dont ask me why.. Its a Harley thing lol

@LesterDFunk

Жыл бұрын

yeah, Harley always measures oil when hot, and doesn’t put a cold measurement on the stick.

harley still putting the oil filter in a not great position (seated in) which i've never been a fan of.

Does that new Revolution Max have 3 holes to change like the traditional Harley engine has, engine, tranny, primary? Or does 1 hole service all three compartments like on metric bikes?

@BackDraftBikes

3 жыл бұрын

I only found one hole. Tech confirmed.

@doughuntley2974

3 жыл бұрын

@@BackDraftBikes Great, thanks for the reply. I never understood the 3 hole change. Glad they are simplifying it!

What about air cleaner....?

@BackDraftBikes

3 жыл бұрын

That is another video on it self...remove tank...quite a chore!

Sounds wrong to me....in my book it says 20-50 oil

Does servicing your bike yourself void the Harley Warranty?

@BackDraftBikes

3 жыл бұрын

No, the Federal Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act protects you. But of course if you mess it up you could be on the hook. And if you fail to service the bike, you would also be in trouble 🚒

That starter sounds pretty weak!

Nothing bad will happen if u push in any API SN, JASO MA-2 for 4T - 10W40, 20W50, 10W50.....and it will be 100% ok for 99% fo this bikes' users. Maybe someone at HD decided to play a "pranc" with the owners ?, or to test their IQ ? 🤔 These numbers ( xxWxx ) tell the lowest / highest usable viscosity temp. Other qualities of the oil are API SN, JASO MA-2 4T. But the 15W50 4T is a pretty common MC oil, where is it possible NOT to find it ?

@JustAnotherLuke94

Жыл бұрын

The rev max REQUIRES CJ4 spec'd 20W-50 diesel oil. Engineers including independents that have performed viscosity studies on the rev max have openly stated in forums that you SHOULD not use just any plain oil.

*Observations* Harley Davison motorcycles has gone electric (failed) and now going "adventure" bike (possible fail too). The company Harley-David (HD) has been trying a lot of different things to survive. Sadly most motorcyclist born these days don't like Harley *_unreliability,_* Harley culture, and Harley NO-customer service. I, personally will never understand the HD sales people that treat potential buyers with snottiness & many times just ignore the possible customer. Happy _Labor Day!_