this is such a good deal, i might get one. i dont even play guitar.

@Sound_Groove_of_America

5 жыл бұрын

This guy is winning in life. I can tell by the comment lol

@januszmynarczyk7108

5 жыл бұрын

@@Sound_Groove_of_America humor this: get 4 of those cabs, disassemble, sell speakers brand bew unused under the sweetwater market value, make +25% or so :D

@DMSProduktions

5 жыл бұрын

@@januszmynarczyk7108 Yup, you WILL make more money BACK than what you spent! I have done this with budget combos. Enough to buy a much BETTER locally made speaker!

@DMSProduktions

5 жыл бұрын

@@tiganman2009 Paid.

@Alex-yd7uv

5 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the EXACT SAME THING

Time to build a wall of HB's.

@stephendre2902

5 жыл бұрын

O87E19 🤣🔥

@riccardogaspari3265

5 жыл бұрын

back when I played death metal i 2013 I used to run a full stack of HBs. I paid 600€ for them, Rocktron Piranha and Rocktron 50:50, massive rig for less than 1000€

@kirkthechugmasterjolly8051

5 жыл бұрын

that would be so badass

This is Harley Benton's version of Costco's hot dog and soda for $1.50

@letzrok1016

5 жыл бұрын

Perfectly said.

@kevintingzon

5 жыл бұрын

i still prefer the chicken bake

@JInfinity7

4 жыл бұрын

Phil says this very thing. It has a marketing term: "loss leader." Several big box retailers sell popular products at a loss to sell you more profitable items down the line.

@chrisg0001

4 жыл бұрын

Nope, it's Costco's rotisserie chicken at which they sell for a loss and often give coupons for free ones

@rubenfernandezcampos8648

4 жыл бұрын

That's the dayly meal of everyone chinese worker. For sure!

Shot the HB 2X12 out against the Mesa 2X12, both sounded great. HB cab is a great deal.

@clutchmasters3402

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the input glenn, i usually tend to seek your opinion before a purchase anyway.

@MsHashy420

5 жыл бұрын

Glenn likes it. Im sold 😆

@curtmurphy5374

5 жыл бұрын

Who else read this in Glenn's voice! haha

@cheomoralesguitarist

5 жыл бұрын

I bought the 212 because of Glenn. Great purchase

@BosbluzGuitarMethod

5 жыл бұрын

fuck you glen....bought one!!!!...lol....you rock dude!

If Thomann says they’re Celestion, they are Celestion. Can’t say enough good things about Thomann. You should go there Phil, you would love the Bavarian country side

@01Revanche

5 жыл бұрын

Well Bavarian? It's not in the south but in the north ofGermany, and for the production you proberbly should wend to China! But honnestly who cares? As long they're are keeping their lowpriced quality goods (i bought a HB D- 120CENT www.thomann.de/nl/harley_benton_d_120ce_nt.htm) because i didn't believe the all so possitive reviews, only too come to the conclusion that its overall real!!

@moki2093

5 жыл бұрын

@J Thorsson how is this related?

@mantelmann13

5 жыл бұрын

@J Thorsson Warmonger

@stanlee5465

5 жыл бұрын

I think he's been there for GuitCon?

@BertGrink

5 жыл бұрын

J Thorsson sounds just like a nazi himself.

This is how you built yourself a reputation, great brand.

@nonchalantstu54

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously, Harley Benton is about to take all of my tax money. I'm getting three guitars and this cabinet for under 1k!

Surreal. Here in Germany we've known Harley Benton since the late 1990s as Thomann's cheap housebrand, now it's twenty years later and even America is buying HB's stuff.

@JbfMusicGuitar

5 жыл бұрын

I only started to hear about the brand in the past few years here in Scotland, glad that I finally have!

@soulagent79

5 жыл бұрын

Actually the brand's origins are even older. Way before Thomann started selling Harley Bentons (and way before the internet-age), there was another huge German retailer, who had a housebrand called "Jim Harley". After that seller had gone bankrupt in the mid 90's, Thomann bought up what was left of him and renamed the brand "Harley Benton".

@JbfMusicGuitar

5 жыл бұрын

@@soulagent79 Alright that's pretty cool, thanks for the info :)

@rainofficial1924

5 жыл бұрын

@@soulagent79 thank God, now I know what is my harley guitar is.

@TheEchelon

4 жыл бұрын

20 years is a long time though... So it's not really that surreal.

I had the horizontal one. Changed the jacks almost immediately. They seemed really cheap and I didn't want to let the powered signal from amp burn through them. Also reinforced the whole cab because it seemed little "floppy" sometimes. After these mods it was really amazing for the price. I'm from Czech Republic so the price was even more ridiculous - somewhere around 200$ (with the delivery) back when I bought it

Hey dude, i just want to compliment your work here. I got ADD and it's hard to keep track of things and stay on task. Your videos have been a huge help to me. Your set up and review style is very entertaining and i followed along the whole time. I loved it. Instant sub!

I bought a pj bass from them last year and since then I've bought that cab, a Les Paul copy, prs copy, tele copy, and looking into their 800w bass head. I can't believe how good their products are!!!

I bought the single cab 12 inch for my Orange Micro Terror. Great cab. $150 shipped to my door from Germany to here US, can't beat that.

@vikingbluesbreaker729

5 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of doing the same with the dark. How did it sound?

@tatethompson1234

5 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Benway I’ve owned super reverbs, twins, Jcm’s, vox, etc. I plugged in the micro terror in to the cab and holy shit! The muddiness went away and amazing warm crunch tone! My favorite new rig!

What a great time to be a guitar player!! I started in the '70s when music equipment may have been at its most expensive era when adjusted for inflation and compared against average income. Things are so much cheaper these days it's just CRAZY! These brands also REALLY shine a light on products such as those from Fender's Custom Shop - of which I own two. I love both my CS Telecasters, but at 5x the price of my Fernandes teles they really only are marginally better and certainly they don't produce better MUSIC! And I'm thinking these HB guitars might be similar to the Fernandes, especially the later ones.

The savings are made by not having anyone in the middle handling distribution

@yungchill69

5 жыл бұрын

They also save costs by not doing alot of advertisement, just letting the product speak for itself. I like that.

@LosTroopos

5 жыл бұрын

And huge quantities. I kinda expect Thomann to be biggest buyers of Celestion V30s at this point.

@heavyjoechipman3594

5 жыл бұрын

That makes total sense. Absolutely😊👍

@Deliquescentinsight

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, once again the global middleman of the World Wide Web 'disrupts' the old chain of profit, precisely

@VintageSlide

5 жыл бұрын

It also applies to their Harley Benton guitars. They used to be bad, but now the quality and quality control have much higher standards than what they used to be. I own a HB TE-52 tele. It’s way better than my Fender mim standard tele in every way. And goddamn, it under $150 new. And yeah, it’s all about having no middle men. I cannot believe how good their stuff is these days.

I got one before Christmas 2018. It's great. I put some casters from Home Depot, and... it's awesome!

This cabinet is amazing, I own this exact one and I can assure you, it’s the real deal y’all!

@Endstation93

5 жыл бұрын

It is very good and the 4x12 one was my main Cab for nearly 8 Years. But now i have an Engl 4x12 and it sounds a lot better. It is a lot punchier and not so fizzy. But for the price it is amazing!

@colebowman2833

5 жыл бұрын

How can you assure us it's real though? You only said that it is. Is there some way you were able to find out?

@Ricky21mt

5 жыл бұрын

Cole Bowman you can take my word for it and watch the tons of KZread reviews on it. Obviously, the only way to know if a piece of gear will work for you is to try yourself. But having such a good reputation and word of mouth does wonders.

@garycrant4511

5 жыл бұрын

@@colebowman2833 live with your suspicions and miss out, or trust these good folks and get a real bargain. its that simple...

@colebowman2833

5 жыл бұрын

@@garycrant4511 I'm not trying to argue with you Gary. It's not important enough. I don't trust companies and I don't buy suspicious products. There's nothing wrong with the question I asked. I want to know how he knows. If he doesn't know, that's fine. I don't care. And if I miss something because of that, it doesn't matter and it's not the end of the world.

I'm seriously thinking about getting a 4×12 for my old JCM900 head thats sitting without a cabinet. I'm very impressed by what I hear. When you've played a long time, you recognize certain tones. And I hear nothing but "goodness" coming out of yours. Even on video. Great review!😊👍

I have the 1x12 cab (now with a G12H30) and I’m so happy with it. Fun analysis, which sounds rather spot on and one that seems to work: here in Sweden Harley Benton cabs are EVERYWHERE, because for what you get it’s just so much. I see people use the cheap price of them by getting the V30 and changing speakers and then selling the V30 used.

I got one of these awhile ago as a recommendation from spectre studios. I spoke with a guy who did world tours and he said it was the best 212 cab he'd ever heard. I dig the tone!

Thanks for all your knowledge and interest in sharing the "inside" industry secrets most of us dont kno about. Might be a perfect fit for my SMARVO 110(Randall) 1x12combo

Hey Phillip, just checking in to say I bought the horizontal 2x12 after this stellar review and I am in love!! Man for the price I cannot believe the quality of this. I have a 1968 Fender Bassman running through it and that break up point on the head unit is killer on this thing.

Would like to see the inside construction if it wouldn't be to much of a hassel! Thanks in advance🤟😁

Yes it is real. I have been in the loudspeaker design industry and the wholesale price of a speaker driver like the Celestron Vintage 30 is 15 dollars.

@christiancibulka1886

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's like a lot of audio stuff, it's very inexpensive to manufacture.

@hadleymanmusic

4 жыл бұрын

@@christiancibulka1886 in mass

@IRieAsAVirus37

4 жыл бұрын

Word I can see that. Ha some companies charging 250-345 for one low watt speaker ehh but no difference whatsoever then one $200 less

Props for the Bowling For Soup riff at 5:24 ! And thanks for bringing light to this cab!

Dude....great review! This is the way reviews should be done. Straight to the point, useful + complete info.....good demo....and tight playing chops just a real nice plus. I'm sold on the cabinets.....I will be getting 2 of them. Rock on!

I bought the Harley Benton 1x12 Celestion a while back and its by far my fav cab to date!

Hey Phil, I have the side by side version of that cab, I've pulled the back panel, and yes, it is definitely plywood. The tolex is very lacking on these, and like you said, easy to scratch or damage, but for the price, they are impossible to beat. I keep my Fender Supersonic 22 head sitting on top, but have been known to plug my Blues Jr. into it as well. I haven't tested for high volume (vibration) but I've had mine for 3 years now, with no worries. One note about Thomann: If you buy multiple items, they only charge you shipping once. I bought mine with a Harley Benton Vintage J bass, and they only charged $34 total shipping to the US. I probably need to do a video on both of them, as they both are tremendous values.

I love that you check out these odd finds. For me personally (I plan on getting one now), the skin will come off! Bare wood, and speakers. I think it would really pop out in my studio with maybe an Orange head. Thanks for posting.

I have the horizontal 2x12 and it's great. Handles my Mesa dual rec like a champ!

@PursuitSk8

5 жыл бұрын

Me too man. I use one with a power amp and a line 6 pod with cab sim off and it's so much better

I can vouch for the one without the 30's. I bought one for smaller gigs and it sounds great. I wanted something different since my 4x12 cab has 30's. Totally worth it.

I was gonna buy a Celestion speaker to fit to my amp. Thst was until i found out about these Harley benton 1x12 cab for less money than what the speaker alone was gonna cost me. Had it for over a year and its a great buy ☺

Had a 2x12 horizontal HB cab for backline at a gig one time and was impressed with the sound.

I tried these cabs when I was at Thomann Like 5 weeks ago. They sound just great.

I have the 1x12 version of this, and it's excellent.

Kudos on that G&L Phil.

@philclarke7712

5 жыл бұрын

Harley Benton do a version 😜

Phil you are the only KZreadr I know that is not afraid to speak honestly about KZread darling brands like HB and Chapman. Your thumbs up was good enough for me and I picked up a couple of these and they indeed are amazing. Thanks for always keeping it real!!!!

Great cab! I bought it based on this review, thank you so much, Phil!!

I've been looking at this and you put me over the top. Like you say, the speakers cost about what the whole thing goes for. Worst case scenario I can build my own cab or recover/grill theirs. Even if it gets beat to hell on the way here, if the speakers are ok I'm not really out anything.

I have the 112 version and it is amazing! i will probably buy the vertical 2x12 because omg they are so good and have the best speakers

Just got myself the horizontal cab recently also. They're amazing!!! I use it for my kemper & the sound is fantastic. It's so light & has the option of 8 ohm to 16 ohm. If anyone is think of getting this but on the fence, JUST DO IT!!!

Thanks for this review. I was looking for a 2x12 cabinet and this looks like a good option - Great review Phil

wow! I don't even need one but I'm gonna buy one! Thanks Phil!!

Finally a reputable review from a trusted source! Thanks Phil!

It really is an awesome cabinet:) I've got one paired with an Orange cr120 head and it sounds killer. My buddy liked the cab so much he bought one to replace his aging halfstack. Now the other guitarist in my band is talking about getting one! Can't say anything negative about it and the size and weight is perfect. Big enough for huge sound but small enough to lug around with out to much hassle.

I have this cabinet. It is fantastic!!! To say the least, I was taken back at how well this cabinet performs. Hard to believe.

HB have been doing this with vintage 30s in their cabs for a few years! That’s why I buy their cabs used and steal the speakers for better cabs👍🏻

PHIL! Sssssssush! I can't afford it right now Don't let them know they've been noticed, I'm trying to save up for the PRS fake, not to mention a cab!

Got a Harley Benton 2x12 with V30s shipped to Australia about 7 years ago... even with the shipping cost, it was still the best deal on a quality cab I could get, even against the used market. Fantastic value, solid build quality and sounds great... I have run a Bugera 333XL, Marshall DSL5 and Orange Micro Dark through it - great clarity, no fizziness when cranking the gain, nice chunky low-end for rhythm too.

I'm rebuilding my set up, and had settled on buying speakers separate and building a vert 212 from ply salvaged from my job site. (I used to have a Mesa vert 212 with the metal grill) Plus, I used to live in Seattle, now I'm on Maui. Shipping is tough. I heard about this company, sent them an email asking if the shipping would still be as cheap, and they said yes. I was pretty much sold on it, but now I'm all in. Your logic works... brand recognition. Get em while their cheap!

Everyone on about the bowling for soup riff but the shinedown riff is what got me 👌

@Cole-ek7fh

5 жыл бұрын

Tarkenton but whinedown is for not men.

@tarkenton3895

5 жыл бұрын

@@Cole-ek7fh oh I know, but it was aa nostalgia trip nonetheless

Well - I have the 1x12 version of this, which is pretty nice and small. I thought of getting this vertical 2x12 one but.. well... the 1x12 is great, too. By the way: The horizontal one (those Thomann uses in all their guitar youtube videos) is even cheaper and offers stereo inputs while the vertical one is to be preferred for its form.

I bought it earlier this year. It sounds good -not as good as some standard cabinets, but better than beginner or cheaper cabs with budget speakers.

Picked up the Vintage 2x12 horizontal cab last year and it is great! I have my Bugera G5 running into it and use it every day.

Trying to order 2 of these now.🤘😵🤘

I have the horizontal v30 HB cab and it sounds almost as good as my mesa 212 for the price and what you get you can't beat it

@dirtyharry1881

5 жыл бұрын

I have it. Doesn't sound like a Mesa . Not when you mic them

@BaldyMacbeard

5 жыл бұрын

I've owned a Vintage 30 loaded "g412a vintage" and have a lot of trouble imagining that. Compared to my V30 loaded Engl Pro, it sounded like shit. Even close mic'd, there was a big difference.

@1972LittleC

5 жыл бұрын

@@dirtyharry1881 read! He doesn't say it sounds like, but as good as. Huge difference. And maybe you're using a mic that colours your sound a bit...

@LaDrouille64

5 жыл бұрын

I have the HB cab, the mesa recto and an evh and what I Can Say is that this cab IS only good considering the price of it... If you plug an high gain amp with low end frequencies it will sucks... When I pluged my mesa head in it, it was impossible to dial a good tone and when I purchased the mesa recto 2x12 it was night and day! I would Say this is not a Bad cab for soft stuff but really not for metal. You will think it IS as good as other but when you try a high end cabinet you absolutely know why they are expensive

@dirtyharry1881

5 жыл бұрын

@@1972LittleC Why so much attitude? I was offering another perspective for potential buyers. I did read what he says, it says "almost sounds as good as". That could also mean mic'd. And I'm saying it's not as good. I use an SM57 like most, I also have a Heil PR20 mic specifically for guitars and I've got 3 different preamps. Do us all a favor and take your snarky attitude elsewhere please...

I have the 1x12 of this. Good little cabinet. This and my JOYO zombie have been great backups for when the guitarists gear inevitably stops working.

Picked up a 1x12 thinking, even if I don't like the Cab, I can just stick the speaker in something else! Pretty happy with how it sounds, although haven't really cranked a head through it yet.

That’s actually pretty damn impressive. I am curious though, did you break the speakers in before recording this demo? I know you have mentioned that process on a live stream before.

I work retail (GC) and it’s nice to see a company make less per unit, with the thought being that they’ll move more, rather than selling less product, but covering more ground with each sale. Plus, as you said, they’re shining a big spotlight on the brand, which in today’s market is no small feat. Very well thought out and executed plan 👏👏👏. Thanks for sharing this Phil. -Aaron

I have a HB tele and a HB 70's jazz bass, great value. They are also great mod projects. I put a series/parallel switch and upgraded the pots and output Jack on the jazz, great player.

I have both cabs, the V30 and the regular one, both horizontal. I like both. I bought the G212 with the idea in mind that it is much cheaper than an unloaded cab and I can load it with whatever I want. It's not as pristine in the highs as the G212V, and not as tight in the lows, but for $180 shipping included I won't complain at all.

Welp I was looking at a $490 orange cab, same specs, but HB is getting my money now....

@jasonandrews8400

5 жыл бұрын

Buy the orange.You won't regret it. I love my ppc2x12 and ppc4x12. They are awesome.

@jacobbrown1690

5 жыл бұрын

if you gig it u will regret it..

@jasonandrews8400

5 жыл бұрын

@@jacobbrown1690 gig with the orange and regret it?

@MrDussek

4 жыл бұрын

Brandon Ivey absolutely true! you’re just paying for the brand name at that point

@TheJMan1K

4 жыл бұрын

dirtyhit187 I’d say you’re paying more for the construction

Can you review the Harley benton fusion with the flamed roasted maple neck?

@rainofficial1924

5 жыл бұрын

Very curious about ss fret quality

I picked up one 2nd hand for £50, was sure that when I popped it open it would have the speaks swapped with something cheaper, but nope, still had the V30's in. Was also suprised how well made the cab was made for its price. Best eBay find to date!

Thank you for sharing this info on a great deal for a great sounding cab. That H&K amp is great as well, of course!

price went down to 222..... i recently bought a used G212 vintage (horizontal).... it is just good. also much louder then the 212 i also have which has eminence legends in it. i also used to have the version that does not have the vintage 30s in it.... it was just bad. the. worst. speakers. ever. i learned what "ice picky" sounds like from that speakers.

Lmao at 5:25 Girl All The Bad Guys Want by Bowling For Soup

@ThatOneGuy21223

5 жыл бұрын

I thought i was the only one that noticed

@codykensington1424

5 жыл бұрын

She wears a 2 way and I'm not quite sure what it means.

got this with the Peavey Misha Mansoor 120.... man this is so nice to leave in the practice studio and not have to haul a expensive unit.

Thanks for the video. I have been hedging about ordering one of theses. After your video I sent in my order. Can’t wait to get it.

Thank you for that Bowling for Soup riff

I don't get why some people hit the dislike button. What is the possible problem with this video how can u not like it at all? He showed u a piece of equipment. What is there not to like?

@brandonhuisman4351

5 жыл бұрын

Super Mecha Death Christ had to dislike this comment for laughs 🤪

@sdlatson

5 жыл бұрын

Harley Benton is one of a few companies he's made videos about that have been considered a "best kept secret" by gearheads. These videos are going to make these insane deals go up in price. I didn't hit the dislike button, but there is a part of me that hates to see these videos get the views they do.

@hoboroadie

5 жыл бұрын

Aside from trolls or other insane people, at some point statistically there are a few klutzes gonna thumb the button wrong or inadvertently. I have a hell of a time fighting this "smartphone" interface. Also could be a hater trying not to deal with some jealousy of a better product than what he paid too much for? I've been hearing some irrational sounds from that camp. I totally appreciate these, but not for me I guess I am running AlNiCo

thanks for this review. ive had my eye on this product for a long time! will be giving this cab another look!

Phillip...so weird! The cab looks like a 4x12 setting way back in your room and then your hand reaches...INCHES and touches it. What a mind trip, lol! It took a while to get use to this style cab. Love what you do. Thanks

I've got a Harley Benton te-30 Tele style guitar.$126 shipped and it's just about as good as my Fenders!

@reficul1984

5 жыл бұрын

Is it made like the tele and does it have the same twang tone?

@nelsonporter8387

5 жыл бұрын

@@reficul1984 Its an amazing guitar! 21 fret satin maple neck- 2 single coils with 3- barrel bridge-Mother of pearl scratch plate and beautiful see-thru vintage blonde finish. This guitar is WAY beyond a $93 guitar!

@nelsonporter8387

5 жыл бұрын

And yes it's got twang- and it rocks with my rig!

I cannot find the "Cabinet made in china" song. Any links? At 1:14

@NeilDjents

5 жыл бұрын

ARMIK M lma0

@flimbonimbo7259

5 жыл бұрын

It's a rare unreleased song. This is the only version that can be found on KZread.

@clannadcannedbread6932

5 жыл бұрын

ARMIK M I don’t think that’s really a r/wooosh.

@roypetty3739

4 жыл бұрын

LMAO

@thebrawnysquirrel6344

4 жыл бұрын

@@armikm9846 r/woooosh back at you lmao

Appreciate the fact you played the sound of madness from shinedown, made my day.

I have the horizontal cab from them. I got it about a year and a half ago for 225 shipped, and mine has the stereo/mono input and switch. Real v30 and sounds great.

Hey Phil, Great video 👍. Now it's time for you to review one of the Harley Benton fusion guitars. Those are really nice.

Phills playing Shinedown? What is this madness?

@tomtaylor9731

5 жыл бұрын

Was just about to say the same thing!

@patricm

5 жыл бұрын

i came to read the comments to see if someone already commented that :D

@s6p6

3 жыл бұрын

@@patricm internet on väike 🕵

@patricm

3 жыл бұрын

@@s6p6 Mida sa selle all mõtled?

@someoneyoudontknow3257

3 жыл бұрын

It's the Sound of Madness 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎

I was looking at these but ended up going with the Mojotone Imperial 2x12 vert slant cab with v30's. It was $499 with free shipping & is built like a tank! Paired with the PRS MT15 Mark Tremonti head with the Helix LT in 4CM & we dubbed this small rig "The Giant Killer"!! I'm definitely gonna keep an eye on the HB stuff for sure! Keep doing the good stuff !!!!!! 🤘😁🤘

Excellent deeper dive into the industry ... nice work Phillip!

Dang, Phil. Busting out the Bowlijg for Soup riffs.

@jebreski

5 жыл бұрын

Il Neige I was gonna point that out!!

@kronabus199a

5 жыл бұрын

I was awesomely surprised when Phil brought that riff out! Hell yeah!

@HellionBlade90

5 жыл бұрын

they're his favorite band after all :)

Damn for that price I’d get 2!!!

@Superjet113

5 жыл бұрын

They also have a 4x12 w/vintage 30's for $373... :)

I have that exact cab for almost a year now, it's awesome!

Phil super video. Thank you. I so much look forward to my notification bell going off on your site. Always great stuff. Again thank you.

I just got two of the 1 x 12 Cabinets loaded with the Celestions. They're just brilliant. Especially for the money. Everyone take advantage of these "Loss Leaders" while they're doing them. If not... well it's your loss.

@willcresson8776

3 жыл бұрын

Don't be fooled, this isn't a loss leader. Harley Benton is making money on these. Most guitar cabinets are just insanely overpriced/marked up (see literally the same cab from orange for $500). You can get those celestion speakers for like $40/ea if you're buying (iirc) a hundred or more at a time. Hell, if you're buying ten or more you can get them for less than $100. HB is buying them in the thousands, if not tens of thousands. Theyre likely getting them for a song.

@dingdong6069

3 жыл бұрын

@@willcresson8776 Yes you're absolutely right. Its why I called them "Loss Leaders" in inverted commas and capitals but maybe should have explained or qualified that with more detail. I worked for over 25 years in musical instrumental distribution so have been involved in quite a few "loss leaders' myself over the years. Yes the economies of scale will allow them to buy in bulk at highly discounted rates but they have 'skimped' on the cabinet. Your robustly solid Orange would tour very easily. These Harley Benton's? Hmmmm.... I'd be taking a couple of spares with me put it that way. But they do sound the business!. They really, really do.

@willcresson8776

3 жыл бұрын

@@dingdong6069 you bring up some very valid points, vis a vis rigidity, but on the other other other hand you could alove that pretty quick with a trip to the hardware store and some wood screws and barely be any the poorer. I think I get what you meant though, that they could over charge for it (and it would still sell and be a good deal relatively speaking), but they don't because it's good publicity and leads to more over all sales down the line?

@dingdong6069

3 жыл бұрын

@@willcresson8776 Absolutely! The idea is that you're so happy with your incredibly value for money Harley B's even if just for practice/recording that next time you're in the market for whatever your first point of call is Thomann. One thing I'll point out that many are not aware of is the warranty situation. For such as myself being in the UK I have of course happily purchased off German based Thomann many times. All well and good. However, if I have any issues - even if the product is still under warranty - then I am liable for getting the product back to Germany. Not Thomann. People often refute this but I simply cite the example of buying a pair of trousers. You go to the store, select them, pay for them and take them home - but - for whatever reason you have to return the trousers a few days later and the store happily replaces them for you with no quibbles. So you go home happy again with your new pair. But its cost you gas/petrol to drive there and back. Maybe even to park. Or you may have had to buy a return ticket on the bus or train. The store does not refund or compensate you for that. You do it under your own steam. So you are invariably out of pocket. So the thing to consider when buying off Thomann (unless you're in Germany of course) is the "what if it goes wrong?" question. Ok, some strings or a strap or even a cheap 1 x 12 cab you might take the hit on. Doesn't matter if it breaks just buy a new one. But if your purchase is a considerable sum and the product one that may need fixing or repairing then it needs to be factored in before you make the transaction and consider the store in town, even though its more expensive might be a better option warranty wise. Hope that helps!

Partical board is heavy ,its mostly glue plywood is much lighter .

You can't make up how CRAZY a deal that is! I have seventy 80's in my Blackstar amp and cab and I'm pretty happy with them. Although, I sure wouldn't mind vintage 30s in them LOL

As always, we appreciate the information Phil. Thanks

Malmsteen needs to switch to HB wall of sound!! Imagine that? Lol

Harley Benton G412A Vintage, w 4 vintage 30s, $375+ $33 shipping

Lol you were jamming a little bowling for soup there! It's honestly a sick sounding cab, I've been needing new gear and Harley benton looks like my new go to

This does sound impressive. I mAy look into getting one of these. Thank you for the demo

The term you’re looking for is “loss-leader”.

now THAT"S proper color for guitar (G&L ASAT)! WOW

I bought one of their cheap Les Pauls and it took 4 weeks to get to me and it was still in tune when I got it. It plays great and I actually bought it as a doner body for a set of Invaders. It is my new favorite guitar

Now I need one of these... thanks for the tip!

Just curious, when you took the back off to confirm that the Vintage 30s are real, did you also confirm that the back panel is also made of plywood like the housing is?

@PhillipMcKnight

5 жыл бұрын

No back panel, The speakers are from loaded on to a plywood baffle. So the whole cabinet is ply.

@Nellil

4 жыл бұрын

The V30's in Harley Benton cabs are made in China and sound very different to the UK made ones...

It seems like something finally lives up to the hype and it may be a legitimate value

3 month wait on these now! glad i got my order in the day this posted!

Playing the vertical v30 2x12 cab for a few years now. Is available here for a long time now. There was no vertical one back then ... would love that. Super fat sound and well built. Get it.