Harley Benton HB35+ - VERSUS - Firefly 338 - WHICH ONE WILL I KEEP?

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I've had enough time to play around with the Harley Benton and Firefly in the same room and i have some big observations to make. I bought tools guys, measuring tools, NBD.
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  • @60CycleHumcast
    @60CycleHumcast3 жыл бұрын

    Harley Benton: www.thomannmusic.com/harley_benton_hb_35plus_lemon.htm?offid=1&affid=405 Firefly on amazon: amzn.to/3hPj5Sb

  • @markfurman4386

    @markfurman4386

    2 жыл бұрын

    Firefly Amazon link takes me to an out of stock gold top 338. Thursday, 17th, February, 2022.

  • @clivewinter8321

    @clivewinter8321

    Жыл бұрын

    I own 4 Harley Benton guitars 3 les Paul's and an explorer so for me it's Harley Benton all the way genuine delivery always on time great sounds to from Harley benton

  • @johncarlo7395

    @johncarlo7395

    Жыл бұрын

    @@clivewinter8321 I recently bought a Harley Benton Telecaster but I was very dissatisfied with the very thick neck which was nothing like a Fender or Squier, could you tell me are the necks on the Harley Benton Les Paul's more like a Gibson shape, more of a slimmer taper as I'm thinking of buying one?.

  • @geemail3849
    @geemail38492 жыл бұрын

    Your technique of fast forwarding from one guitar to the next while using the same pickup selection and amp settings, thus compressing the time between the two sounds and enabling me the listener to truly compare apples to apples, is most excellent!!!!! WELL DONE!

  • @rokinrandy

    @rokinrandy

    Жыл бұрын

    Man thanks for all you do. Even with the cheap stuff. I’m not In love with either one . But I don’t have Gibson money. And I don’t want to buy each one to find out.

  • @philippe_durel
    @philippe_durel4 жыл бұрын

    We've come to a point, quality wise, where the manufacturing company (name and location) should be mentioned (somewhere) on Asian guitars, because some of these Asian musical instruments manufacturing companies are now hitting a real high standard of quality, and it becomes more and more obvious. I think these Asian companies should stop staying in the shadow of some "obscure brand names" and start being proud of their production.

  • @jameshill2015

    @jameshill2015

    4 жыл бұрын

    I just spent $1950 for a Chinese guitar which is what I paid for my "17" Honeyburst Les Paul Standard that will be available on Reverb this coming week. Crazy to some but my Chinese guitar has a far better cut bone nut than the Gibson, far better fret work than the Gibson, better pick ups than the Gibson, I prefer the finish being Varnish to nitro-cell gloss of the Gibson, my Chinese Guitar came with orange drop capacitors my Gibson did not, the Chinese guitar came with EBONY fret board while the Gibson came with some low grade rosewood/maybe Pau Ferro? type of wood... basically junk in actual comparrison... Ebony headstock overlay and truss cover while Gibson is nitro gloss and plastic cover.. I feel stupid buying the Gibson now.. It was not worth it UNLESS you are going to sell it..which I am and will get my money back but my Eastman SB59V in classic red varnish is NOT getting sold anytime soon! And WORTH EVERY PENNY for a 100% handmade guitar!

  • @kevinking2468

    @kevinking2468

    4 жыл бұрын

    But with that would come a justification of higher prices - No thanks.

  • @robertnewshutz1081

    @robertnewshutz1081

    4 жыл бұрын

    check out the starshine guitars on ebay. They are trying to be innovative.

  • @bjl1000

    @bjl1000

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have no problems with my FF except the fingerboard makes my fingers black.

  • @MyklBlue69

    @MyklBlue69

    4 жыл бұрын

    You don't know about Samick then. If it's not like Fender or Gibson, liklihood is it's made by Samick but with someone else's name on it. They do release under their own name too but liklihood is both of those guitars are made by Samick. Maybe not but it's a fact that Samick is the largest manufacturers of guitars in the world because they make all the 3rd party (for want of a better term) guitars with other people's names on them.

  • @KevSmithMusic
    @KevSmithMusic4 жыл бұрын

    The HB sounds better I think. I prefer the tone, it sounds richer to me.

  • @doowoppyify

    @doowoppyify

    3 жыл бұрын

    But he never played it!

  • @chancejohnson8504

    @chancejohnson8504

    3 жыл бұрын

    Remember though..you can have 10 of the same guitars..color..model .wood...strings..but they will all sound a bit different

  • @johnora3857
    @johnora38574 жыл бұрын

    Who would’ve thought that Harley Benton would be the dearer guitar in a vs battle one day? I got the exact model and it is amazing!!

  • @cooltunesmadeeasy

    @cooltunesmadeeasy

    4 жыл бұрын

    Stays in tune.?.how would it compare to epiphone do u know?

  • @johnora3857

    @johnora3857

    4 жыл бұрын

    cooltunesmadeezy i dont have an epiphone. Stays in tune....better than a gibson les paul but worse than a tele.

  • @tazzz69dazzermind35

    @tazzz69dazzermind35

    4 жыл бұрын

    John O RA I don't have a Harley Benton yet. But looking to add an 11th guitar to my collection. Something cheap to teach my 2 sons on. Also for me too. Lol.😅 But I have a Gibson Les paul standard, Epiphone Les paul custom, Fender Stratocaster Lone star, 12 string acoustic Washburn, Ovation with Fishman preamp, Samick, Ibinez, etc. I've rarely had my Gibson, Epiphone or Strat go out of tune. Really rare !?!! I also don't have a black guitar yet or a Semi hollow. I want a black Les paul style HB. Don't care for Semi hollow guitars. Should I order a HB or is it going to be crap ? I've never bought a guitar I didn't try 1st. #Reluctant

  • @johnora3857

    @johnora3857

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@tazzz69dazzermind35 i would order a HB. Take for example the sc-custom in black for 199€ with either humbuckers or p90. Mine is with p90 and it is sensational for the price!! If you dont like it, thomann has got a very good return policy. btw: i am not affiliated with thomann in any way, i just enjoy that nowadays i can try every kind of guitar for pocket money.

  • @paulroberts7561

    @paulroberts7561

    4 жыл бұрын

    Me too, amazing value.

  • @waytothewill
    @waytothewill4 жыл бұрын

    Kudos for the honest remarks at the end of this video. This world needs more people with morals.

  • @kimmcintosh3449

    @kimmcintosh3449

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yes and less liberals

  • @AlbusBand
    @AlbusBand4 жыл бұрын

    I appreciate the honesty for sure. It’s why I Love Henning and it’s why I love you (that and the video you did for me TO Henning at NAMM). Love watching the channel & looking forward to seeing you again in Anaheim. -Aaron

  • @alanhardman2447
    @alanhardman24474 жыл бұрын

    I've owned my Harley Benton for over 2 years and I am still in love with it. I got the HB35 Plus exactly like this one. I rarely use the coil tapping. I have done some VERY minor adjustments in the action, but it remains one my two favorite guitars in the rack.

  • @VicClay
    @VicClay4 жыл бұрын

    Ryan, I just stumbled onto you here. So glad that I did. Major kudos to you. Finally, a guy that does comparisons in a way that is easy to follow and understand. The right way. You play the same stuff on each one and only for short bursts and I am very impressed by this vid due to your candor about the affiliate deal and the fact that you chose honesty over hyping the one that pays you better. I subscribed instantly and also became a fan instantly. I look forward to exploring your other content here. One tiny quibble with this vid is not talking about playing differences in the context of the 2 different neck scale lengths. It did not matter to me but it might to someone else. I have a Harley Benton Tele in my collection that is all metallic paisley on the front and has Texas Specials instead of the stock pickups and it is a pretty nice player. Another thing is I really appreciate you having captions and even more that you speak very clearly and face the camera so we can see your lips move. I am deaf and wear hearing aids so this means a heck of a lot to me and I want you to realize how much I appreciate it. And yes, being deaf, I have no idea what I sound like when I play and sing. lol If they start throwing tomatoes, I know its a bad night.

  • @bingochoice
    @bingochoice3 жыл бұрын

    I've got an harley benton, actually 4 of them, I love them..well made, playability is nice, I got a B stock HB35 for $127, its the best money I've ever spent on a guitar..

  • @skippyi6969
    @skippyi69694 жыл бұрын

    Ryan = Preachin the truth and gettin his ass torn out for it by the firefly cult.. Keep preaching brother and calling a spade a spade. Thats hard to find these days.

  • @websurfer5150

    @websurfer5150

    4 жыл бұрын

    He is probably one of the very few that would do that... Raised my respect level for him and woke me up to the corruption going on in the "paid promotion" industry. Could well be considered dishonest advertising. I think the TV industry had to come to terms with that many years ago. I'm sure you recall seeing "The following is a paid promotion for ZXY corporation".

  • @websurfer5150

    @websurfer5150

    4 жыл бұрын

    @Michael Miller You may not see it but its pretty obvious and it leads to people being mislead. are you in favor of misleading the public?

  • @MattyP19751

    @MattyP19751

    3 жыл бұрын

    Harley Benton hands down

  • @raceface_m2579
    @raceface_m25794 жыл бұрын

    That HB has the right sound I’m looking for. And that lemon finish is gorgeous!

  • @haveguitar
    @haveguitar3 жыл бұрын

    Might be getting the HB but I have to agree that the color of the Firefly looks really good, temptingly so... :) Great video that only got better by your talk at the end, thanks!

  • @CreepyCharlie
    @CreepyCharlie4 жыл бұрын

    Just ordered the HB in red. The guitar will be better than my ability no matter which one I buy!

  • @mikehurley5052

    @mikehurley5052

    4 жыл бұрын

    Same with me, i can make a 3000 dollar guitar sound like a 50 dollar one.

  • @myam754

    @myam754

    4 жыл бұрын

    my guitar playing skills in a nutshell. ordering it as well

  • @bradsullivan3588
    @bradsullivan35884 жыл бұрын

    That HB is just freaking gorgeous. Great video, man.

  • @yaguitar
    @yaguitar4 жыл бұрын

    Your honesty is appreciated man. I love my HB35, it's a great guitar. Same as you, my channel makes more from Amazon than Thomann lol

  • @aaronjack3813
    @aaronjack38134 жыл бұрын

    Love the honesty man ❤️,this is a must needed and very very well done comparison video

  • @MyklBlue69
    @MyklBlue694 жыл бұрын

    I got my HB-35 Plus CH at end of July and I love it. Its definitely a stud, not a dud. Perfect in every way IMO. It has gritty frets but I will smooth them when I change the strings but they look like they were levelled after the factory and the edges are rolled very nicely. No imperfections and plays like a dream. My favourite guitar ever and nowhere near my most expensive!

  • @davidkastin4240
    @davidkastin42404 жыл бұрын

    Spend the extra $30 for the Harley Benton. It's a better guitar. Your going to spend alot more than $30 upgrading the Firefly.

  • @skippyi6969

    @skippyi6969

    4 жыл бұрын

    THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  • @ModernGolfer

    @ModernGolfer

    4 жыл бұрын

    Disagree. Takes about the same $$$ amount to get 'em BOTH to the same level of usability. BOTH need to go to a luthier before seriously playing it. So does every guitar, IF ya want it to play at it's highest level, truthfully.

  • @monmixer

    @monmixer

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@ModernGolfer many people have the minor luthier skills to do it themselves. there isn't enough value there to go beyond that unless just have a love crush on the guitar which only a 16 year old kid would and if his parents had the money they would step up a bit to Fender Squire anyway and one of the lower cost Fender sub brands that they are making now which are priced at this point anyway and likely no better.

  • @rangerdoc1029

    @rangerdoc1029

    4 жыл бұрын

    $30?.....more like an extra $90. $230 vs $140.

  • @tazzz69dazzermind35

    @tazzz69dazzermind35

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nunya Bizness If you need a luthier because you can't fix these minor issues on your own !?? You haven't been around guitars much. Lmao.😅

  • @geezerbliz
    @geezerbliz3 жыл бұрын

    Firefly has improved their guitars based on user feedback...the inlays are a great example. You no longer have the huge gaps between the inlays and fretboard. They also upgraded the plastic nut to bone. (They also have more choice of finishes)

  • @vancochran7344

    @vancochran7344

    9 ай бұрын

    They have ball end stainless steel on their frets now too.

  • @pcanarsky
    @pcanarsky4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! Loved the transparency.

  • @stevestrauss6352
    @stevestrauss63524 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for staying honest and not selling out. Great video!

  • @jamesstaley9886
    @jamesstaley98864 жыл бұрын

    Got the FF338 in matte black about 8 months ago. Swapped out the pickups with dual lipstick humbuckers from guitar fetish. Total rewire with bourns pots including push-pulls to split the coils. Hot-rodded and loving it! No tuner issues but still plan to change them out with locking tuners.

  • @richardbaker_0088
    @richardbaker_00884 жыл бұрын

    I love how he snatches those chords outta the inputs

  • @Dubski
    @Dubski Жыл бұрын

    Perfect timing! I'm just about to pull the trigger and grab myself a "Lemon Drop" Harley Benton 35Plus in the coming week so having your review pop up on my feed really was perfect timing Bro, and for my budget limitations I'm reassured by your run down on that one you got there. So thanks a bunch, and keep pumping out the great videos my friend. Wishing you all the very best from Scotland!

  • @rickk1235
    @rickk12353 жыл бұрын

    Your honest and morals is why I follow your channel. Thanks so very much.

  • @getoutofthetimetrap5435
    @getoutofthetimetrap54354 жыл бұрын

    You’re honesty just earned you a sub and a HB purchaser. Thanks

  • @PipeCat1965
    @PipeCat19654 жыл бұрын

    BTW, I really appreciate your candor about your affiliate links - it speaks volumes as to your credibility as a reviewer. THANKS for that. And this was a GREAT review.

  • @ricmel8008
    @ricmel80084 жыл бұрын

    I love a honest review my brother. You touched my heart.

  • @GregPentecost
    @GregPentecost4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!!! Exactly the comparison I've been wanting!

  • @garymcaleer6112
    @garymcaleer61124 жыл бұрын

    Great post, brother. We need discernment these day in every aspect of our lives.

  • @hearpalhere
    @hearpalhere3 жыл бұрын

    Huge thumbs up for giving the feedback the way you did, I really appreciate it.

  • @MarkGardner66Bonnie
    @MarkGardner66Bonnie2 жыл бұрын

    First time visitor... Loved the review...and your honesty! Thank you

  • @Avedis-G
    @Avedis-G4 жыл бұрын

    I bought the Firefly LP Jr style Goldtop and I love it! I did replace the P90 and had some fret sprout to deal with but the neck is dead straight and the guitar is a player! Thanks for this comparison! I’m like you in that I don’t need any ES335 style guitars but at this price point it will make an awesome addition to my collection!

  • @the_mega_doomer9587
    @the_mega_doomer95872 жыл бұрын

    Hey Ryan, you're the best! Love the channel, keep up the great work! Love the honesty!

  • @robsmyth7003
    @robsmyth7003 Жыл бұрын

    Love your content. Especially the fact youre not a snob on the cheaper guitars, dont dismiss Squiers vs Fenders etc. Love it 👍🏻

  • @jdjohn4360
    @jdjohn43604 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man it’s hard to find the honesty that you promote kudos brother

  • @rockinbobokkin7831
    @rockinbobokkin78314 жыл бұрын

    I admire that kind of honesty. Nice.

  • @germainvargas8496
    @germainvargas84964 жыл бұрын

    I think you are blessed to have both guitars and you should keep them with you ... I wish I could buy them down here in México in a easy way as you did!!

  • @JF-em6hr
    @JF-em6hr4 жыл бұрын

    That's totally cool. That neck tool thing. Never saw one of those before.

  • @douglasbushman
    @douglasbushman3 жыл бұрын

    Nice to see an honest guy-Keep up the great reviews-I am liking the HB guitar

  • @jessiejames2155
    @jessiejames21559 ай бұрын

    Everyone loves their Firefly ! I just love mine !

  • @MrKingsley16
    @MrKingsley164 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Ryan for all of your reviews. I was vacillating between a number of semi-bodied models. For the longest time I thought it was going to be the Epiphone ES-339 Pro, but when you compared it with the Ibanez and the HD, I was sold on the HD. My question is, after recieving the guitar, will I need to get it professionally setup? Thank you sir, Cheers!

  • @jukeboxheros7021
    @jukeboxheros70214 жыл бұрын

    I'm glad I ran into this, cuz I'm in a buying mood and was looking at that FFJR model. Your honesty is worth a sub. I'll take look at HB to if they carry a LPJR style git, thanks.

  • @alanhardman2447
    @alanhardman24473 жыл бұрын

    The Harley Benton is the one I bought and I am highly impressed by it. No regrets at all. One small thing, though - the three-way switch disassembled itself into its body in several pieces. Caused a short. Replaced it, and all's well... Oh!And the lemon burst color is STILL my favorite of all the guitars I own (admittedly, that's only 7).

  • @DefiningDave
    @DefiningDave4 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for doing a vs video. All the firefly videos I see are just a review of the guitar by itself with no real comparison to anything else, and anything can sound good or bad in a YT video when you have nothing to compare it to.

  • @rickyoung5625
    @rickyoung5625 Жыл бұрын

    Ended up getting the HB35 very pleased and Happy with the decision, Thanks 😊

  • @charlie-obrien
    @charlie-obrien4 жыл бұрын

    Ryan, I really enjoy your vids. Here is a perfect example of why. You dispel the myth that there is no bottom to the "low price" quality guitar. I see people go online and rave about these Fireflys, but the minute you showed the close up comparison of the 2 necks, it quite clearly showed that anyone choosing the Firefly is picking an inferior made guitar. Like you I was attracted to one of the color choices (the blue) and I almost jumped on it. I count myself lucky now, that they were sold out at the time and the urge passed, because 2 weeks later I got an unbelievable deal on a used Epiphone that plays great and has not even one flaw in finish or build.

  • @Full_Deflection
    @Full_Deflection Жыл бұрын

    The neck pickup in the HB has me considering buying one. The light and airy tone I heard was super pleasant and exactly what I’d hope to get out of a guitar of this style.

  • @lmoore5264
    @lmoore52644 жыл бұрын

    I just purchased 2 indentical Firefly 338's. I bought one for me to convert from right hand to left hand. The second one I bought for a friend of mine. Both guitars came in with broken high E strings. The double box had been smashed too hard into the bridge and it broke a string on each. Secondly the volume and tone knobs were mashed so hard against the guitar body that it left indent rings around each. The knobs were rubbing the body. When I disassembled one to convert it to a lefty I found that the volume stems were too long for the application. As a fix they put double washers on the pot so it didn't protrude too far from the body. I removed the extra washers and relocated the pots to the other side of the guitar. I still have to replace the nut, the tuners and I want better pickups, but for a cheap guitar the thing plays well. When you play clubs and bars every weekend as I do you certainly wouldn't want to take a pristine 335 there and risk it getting damaged. So the Firefly certainly fills a niche.

  • @jeffreydooley3745
    @jeffreydooley37454 жыл бұрын

    You won my viewership with your honesty. Thank you for that. A few extra $$ is worth it, especially with the coil taps.

  • @tomdameek
    @tomdameek4 жыл бұрын

    I have the 35plus 3 years now and it’s my favorite guitar. I have a Gretsch and a G&l and the HB still gets played the most by far and is holding up fabulously. It plays everything with an amazing range of tones. I’ve changed nothing so far on it. I will say my pups have Wilkinson’s and the Roswells sound similar. Very interesting video once again Ryan thanks.

  • @sassycat
    @sassycat4 жыл бұрын

    Firefly pros: Rounder "ear" shape Boomier sounding pickups Proper shaped pickguard Firefly cons: Jumpy tuners Microphonic pickups Laughable fretboard quality Finishing issues HB pros: Gorgeous lemon burst finish Coil cut controls (!) Quality tuners Nice fretboard fit and finish HB cons: 'Tight' sounding pickups Ibanez shaped 'ears' LP style pickguard Keeper: HB-35. I can live with the Ibanez shape, and can swap out the pickguard and pickups.

  • @mediocreboi

    @mediocreboi

    4 жыл бұрын

    Even on epiphones I take off the pickguard and switch out the pickups anyway. That burst is gorgeous.

  • @ces69

    @ces69

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sassy Cat If you can find an older one on eBay they are more “authentic” in their look. I believe Harley Benton/ Thomann changed them under pressure from Gibson!

  • @w13rdguy
    @w13rdguy4 жыл бұрын

    I had a nice experience last year. I was headed into a town where they have one of those centers that sells guitars, but I decided to not shop there. Instead I searched "Music store" in a map app. The store I ended up at was selling used...at the same prices as the local garage sale app!

  • @ColinStuart
    @ColinStuart4 жыл бұрын

    I fell in love with the neck measuring tool, when my dad had one! Rember, there's nothing wrong with having morals.

  • @comajoebuck999

    @comajoebuck999

    4 жыл бұрын

    Body work tool?

  • @BrentAdams
    @BrentAdams Жыл бұрын

    This is probably the 3rd time I've watched this video (Thank You Ryan for making it!) I struggle a little with the width of this style of guitar, BUT... the tone is pretty unique with it as well.... so I keep coming back to adding one to my "Guitar Sounds Tool Box". While I already own the Harley Benton CST 24-HB guitar (PRS shaped Semi Hollow design...& I LOVE it!) I still don't think I'm quite getting that "335-esque tone". Someone else thought the H.B. might be slightly smaller (new versions) than a 335 style, but not as small as the 339 style guitar. Anyway, I'm had just visited the Thomann site and they had the HB35 Plus back in stock in the Lemon Drop Fade (My favorite look that they offer...I am the type that prefer to see the wood grain through a translucent finish, versus any type of opaque finish...We all have our little prejudices don't we? 😉) ....so ... I finally grabbed it! This will be my 4th H.B. I do tend to appreciate what they have to offer, but I did sell the RB-612CS preferring my Eastwood Classic 12, even though I wanted to prefer the H.B. Now, I'll need to compare the CST-24 HB to the H35 Plus to see if I was really "missing something". LOL! Play Lots!

  • @Icantdrive55
    @Icantdrive554 жыл бұрын

    I bought the Firefly 338 the last time amazon had them a few weeks ago. I bought it knowing full well I’d be changing the buzzy bridge, pickups and tuners, and doing a fret job. I bought it as a winter project. I’ve never done a full setup on a guitar before so it’s my opportunity to learn how to do everything. KZreadrs like you will show me the way.

  • @60CycleHumcast

    @60CycleHumcast

    4 жыл бұрын

    these are great guitars for someone looking to practice set ups and fret work. the price is right and the bones of a fun playing guitar is there.

  • @Synsizer

    @Synsizer

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you rec'd one like that, send it back! Mine had NO buzz of any kind. Hasn't had in over a year of owning it. Tuners have held wonderfully. Not as good as Schallers or Gotoh which I have on my other guitars, but still pretty decent. Just don't run the pickups all out (go back a notch or two). And a few minutes with the frets on a weekend and you should be good to go. Mine were good enough out of the box but I still may do a little edge rounding when I find the time. And yes, if you are (were) wanting to learn to do set ups, these are great little guitars for that do to the price range. Hope all turned out well with your guitar.

  • @YesItsWitticus
    @YesItsWitticus4 жыл бұрын

    I have a Harley Benton J bass I love. Been looking for an ES guitar. Love the look of the HB. Think I may be making a purchase.

  • @jamesprisciandaro3144
    @jamesprisciandaro31444 жыл бұрын

    Curious if you would agree: my firefly thinline had better pickups and tuners out of the gate relative to my firefly semi-hollow. Haven't tried the other models and probably won't, but quite happy with the two I have!

  • @ronniebaker4549
    @ronniebaker45494 жыл бұрын

    I was about to buy a PRS SE when my acoustic and 3rd American Stratocaster was stolen in May of last year. My friend told me about Harley Benton so I bought a Harley Benton XT22 double cut away like the Gibson Les Paul double cut away. It was shipped from Germany to Georgia USA and all I had to do to set it up was tune the 1st E string. A friend got the Harley Benton HB 35 Plus for Xmas and I bought it from him in January for $200.00. He included a set of Grover keys but I didn't need them so I traded them for a strap. I haven't replaced my Strat or acoustic and plan on ordering a Harley Benton Strat and the Harley Benton CLD 41 SE. If the Strat and CLD. If the Harley Benton acoustic is as close to the $5000.00 Martin D 41 as the XT22 is to the Les Paul and the HB 35 Plus and the Stratocaster sounds and plays as good as any of my 3 American Strats it will be hard to buy another new guitar like a Gibson or Fender when the Harley Benton is a fraction of the price.

  • @markewing6780
    @markewing67804 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Ryan! I'm ordering an HB through your link. I've purchased 4 Firefly guitars, and my experiences were not as great as others have claimed to have had with Firefly guitars. I was only willing to keep one of the 4 Firefly's due to poor conditions of the instruments. The one Firefly that I did keep out of 4 (which was the best of the 4), I have had to do a complete fret level, crown and polish. Still need to replace the tuners and at least one of the pickups (will probably replace both). That being said, I will still have to live with the other flaws (40 grit sanding marks throughout the entire paint job, lopsided string-through-body ferrules, crooked bridge...etc..). I was glad to see someone actually make an honest review of both of these guitars because I have been looking at the HB's for quite some time, and I've really been kicking myself for buying FOUR Firefly's without even trying ONE Harley Benton. Thank you for your honesty and comparison. It was spot on.

  • @60CycleHumcast

    @60CycleHumcast

    4 жыл бұрын

    Harley bentons still get quality control issues here and there. but thats par for the course with budget guitars. I had a similar experience with fireflys though, out of 4 i only entertained the thought of keeping one, while i have 4 harley bentons and only one of them is kind of a dud.

  • @markewing6780

    @markewing6780

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@60CycleHumcast Very good to know. Thank you much for the info Ryan. You have definitely helped me to make the decision to buy a Harley Benton. I don't mind working on my guitars some if within reason. I don't expect perfect for $250 or less. Keep the videos coming my friend! Awesome stuff man! A little word called "HONESTY". If you stop on over to the facebook Firefly fans page you will see a guy who has a post about his frets being loose and unseated from the 12th fret to the 21st fret. He literally makes a video showing the bouncing frets popping up and down. One of the admins (no names) actually got on his post and said "I've seen people do this with Gibson's, it's an easy fix, just use Super Glue Gel" (first of all I would use THIN Super Glue if it was 1 or 2 frets, but not 8 frets!). Anyway, then he goes on to say something like "But still not bad for $150 guitar"!!! I was sitting there with my mouth hanging open slobbering on myself reading that. I felt sorry for the guy with the fret issues.

  • @60CycleHumcast

    @60CycleHumcast

    4 жыл бұрын

    the nice thing about the fireflys is they are amazon prime so if you have prime you can return them fairly easily. Still though, loose frets are crazy.

  • @markewing6780

    @markewing6780

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@60CycleHumcast I agree. At least you can return them through Amazon Prime. I'm sure I will buy another FF guitar just based on that alone. But if I buy one more bad guitar from them I'm sure it will be the last for me. Hey man, I'm down to try anything as long as it's not wasting my time and money. Thanks for your time kind Sir. Hope you're having a great day!

  • @GK-ud8dv
    @GK-ud8dv3 жыл бұрын

    That goldtop looks great in the video.. love to see it in person

  • @aladolfsenjustanoldguy2045
    @aladolfsenjustanoldguy20453 жыл бұрын

    Bought directly from Guitar Garden for 189 with flamed top(was $30 more). Pickups have been improved, not so microphonic. Had dirty frets but has a bone nut. Filed the frets. I'm happy with it. Stays in tune pretty well.

  • @billycockrell2470
    @billycockrell24704 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for your honesty! That's rare this day in time. I'd probably opt for firefly. But that's because I would probably at least swap the pickups in both guitars if I purchased either. I actually like to upgrade pretty much all my guitars. That's not for everyone though. I'd agree with your choice and think it'd be the choice if I didn't want to spend time and money on upgrades and just wanted to use the guitar. If I buy a firefly in the future, I will come back and purchase through your affiliate link. Absolutely because you were honest about it and upfront on the business side.

  • @60CycleHumcast

    @60CycleHumcast

    4 жыл бұрын

    thanks! i appreciate it.

  • @johnfair62
    @johnfair624 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for your honesty. I subscribed because of it.

  • @blazerodriguez6250
    @blazerodriguez62504 жыл бұрын

    I recently bought the firefly and I love it. I haven't had any of the issues that Ive seen others complain about such as the buzzing coming from bridge or picups. No issues with nut it was cut perfect. My tuners work just fine no issues there either. As for the finish mine looks great granted its mat black but there where no scratches or or any other flaws. I probably just got lucky but im going to a fret job even though its not that bad i just want optimal playability im also going install some bad ass filtertrons. Im glad I bought it and ill be keeping mine

  • @jameswilliford5478

    @jameswilliford5478

    4 жыл бұрын

    I got the red 338 and have had no issues with it. Finish was great...I must have gotten lucky.

  • @andreapasillas8478
    @andreapasillas84784 жыл бұрын

    What? no middle position demo for the pickups??? My heart is broken, Ryan :{

  • @ronnienose8608
    @ronnienose86084 жыл бұрын

    Harley Benton all the way, stick a pair of Iron Gear Blues Engines in it and it'll sound fantastic (good as Duncans but less than half the price).

  • @michaelolz

    @michaelolz

    3 жыл бұрын

    Iron Gear, huh? I never heard about them! I’ll look them up.

  • @ronnienose8608

    @ronnienose8608

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@michaelolz They're great pickups. They're sold through a site called Axetec.co.uk. British firm and made abroad with top quality materials. I'm not affiliated with them, just a happy customer.

  • @louisfryzel4618
    @louisfryzel46184 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the video but one thing I wished you had done is compare the Vintage edition of the Harley Benton that is about $30 cheaper and so would more closely match the Firefly in price and in the specs. The "Plus" model you are showing has alnico pickups in addition to having the coil-split functions (a great addition I think); the cheaper model, like the Firefly, has regular ceramic pickups I think and no coil splits. You did mention the price differential but I just would have liked to have seen and heard a comparison of the Vintage HB vs. the Firefly, ceramics against ceramics, and so on.

  • @frederikweishaupt6371
    @frederikweishaupt63712 жыл бұрын

    Been looking for this video!

  • @johnnydswing
    @johnnydswing4 ай бұрын

    How not to love this guy!! Great videos always ❤️❤️

  • @thehound2161
    @thehound21614 жыл бұрын

    Ryan is on top of things with this video. Firefly's are hot now and the HB's have been for a time. Good stuff.

  • @thehound2161

    @thehound2161

    4 жыл бұрын

    I am not in the loop with the Firefly's and have only seen "sold out", but as i am a fan boy of the Harley Benton's i may remain a spectator with the Firefly's. I do not think they were made in the same factory, unless the Firefly's are made on the 3rd shift. Granted the materials were similar, but you have shown the finish differences to be obvious.... at least in this example.

  • @thehound2161

    @thehound2161

    4 жыл бұрын

    Firefly wins the pick guard competition however. :)

  • @LS-qw6xq
    @LS-qw6xq4 жыл бұрын

    Does Harley Benton squeal or produce feedback at higher gig/live stage volume with medium to high gain?

  • @philo426
    @philo4264 жыл бұрын

    yes I got a HB35 b stock for 168 due to a scratch on the neck.After I put Grover tuners on it it is a great guitar !Intonation and action is just right and it sounds great!

  • @emiliolopez8796
    @emiliolopez87963 жыл бұрын

    Great video man!

  • @jazzydog
    @jazzydog4 жыл бұрын

    Good demo, I like HB in many ways. Thanks.

  • @unwavery
    @unwavery3 жыл бұрын

    the HB sounds better, but at this price point it IS a project guitar. i really appreciate your honesty in the last few minutes. leaning towards firefly because i have a sustainiac pickup i want to put in the neck and use it for crazy feedback. great comp video!

  • @robertyoung7027
    @robertyoung70274 жыл бұрын

    Pups in the HB sound much more musical through my headphones while listening to your vid

  • @skippyi6969
    @skippyi69694 жыл бұрын

    Subbed - Ryan, thanks for giving us something that can only be found on a handful of channels on YT, HONESTY... I have been waiting for the FF338 to come back in stock on Amazon but this video just made me stop looking for in stock status on the firefly. I'm taking your affiliate link to HB. Looking at both guitars objectively , the HB is the clear winner. The fretboard inlays are what made the decision for me. They mill out an oversized hole for the inlay and just fill around the edges because the hole does not fit the inlays they have that day. Nope, not for me. By the time you change pups and tuners on the FF338, you have as much or more in it as the HB35+ with better QC. Its a no brainer for me. Thanks for the honesty again..

  • @BLUEWATERTOO

    @BLUEWATERTOO

    4 жыл бұрын

    Hey Bevis ... "Green light? Step on the gas! Yellow light? Step on the gas! Red light? Step on the gas! Harley Benton rules!

  • @davidcochran6291
    @davidcochran62914 жыл бұрын

    You could call them scruples too. I agree with your assessment of the two guitars. Where you and I differ is I like the wood grain and the pattern it creates. I also like the tan pick guard rather than the black. What I didn't get was what is the neck like on these? Since I like a thinner neck and a flatter profile that information would be welcome. I have small hands, but more important short fingers. So barre chords work better if the neck is built flat. That allows me to put more pressure from the back to support the barre. I noticed you are able to curl your thumb over the top edge of the neck so you can use it to deaden the top string if necessary. Or you can use it as I see players do sometimes use it to play the top string if you need a note that doesn't that doesn't require a full barre. Anyway, My thumb hardly ever gets over the top, and that is just the tip. Plus I have a pretty good case of arthritis, so that doesn't help. So that info would be nice. I am also left-handed, and I am guessing that model wouldn't even be available to me anyway. Overall I liked your evaluation. I also understand the need for the guitar to look right for you, I play golf and was pretty good at one time. But if the irons I was testing out didn't look right sitting behind the ball I couldn't get the ball airborne to save my life. It's quirky to be sure, but then if all of us liked the same thing, all but one of us would be unnecessary. Thanks again.

  • @herroglop7411
    @herroglop74114 жыл бұрын

    The curve thing is great!! I hope I see it in more guitar demos! Patent it and you are the king of demos guitars, haha

  • @60CycleHumcast

    @60CycleHumcast

    4 жыл бұрын

    i think i saw Doug Kauer post using one years back, i know i didnt come up with the idea of using one though, lol

  • @herroglop7411

    @herroglop7411

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@60CycleHumcast ssshhhh, don.t blow it man. Patent and Curve authentic.

  • @flyfish1995
    @flyfish1995 Жыл бұрын

    I have 3 Harley Benton’s and so long as they keep up the quality and pricing, I’ll keep buying them over almost any guitar out there.

  • @ModernGolfer
    @ModernGolfer4 жыл бұрын

    Never had an issue with the Firefly tuners. Every guitar owned goes to the favorite local luthier, anyway. Every one needs a 'tweak' to fit 'just right'. Regardless of price or brand.

  • @mickmace77
    @mickmace774 жыл бұрын

    Hey man, thanks for this video as I've been considering a HB of some sort, and your video seems to confirm that HB makes better quality guitars. My one question would be could the FF pickup just need adjusting a bit closer to the strings to get the same output? I'm with you on the coil tap functionality anyway though...

  • @60CycleHumcast

    @60CycleHumcast

    4 жыл бұрын

    naw, the ff pickups are at a normal distance

  • @PCPInvestigations
    @PCPInvestigations4 жыл бұрын

    Is the Harley only available through the factory in England? You have sold me on this unit as well. I am looking at the Oscar Schmidt oe30 as a comparable selection also. Ty in advance for any input you have. PC out

  • @SHTMusik
    @SHTMusik3 жыл бұрын

    You are so honest and too good for this world.

  • @DinsdalePiranha67
    @DinsdalePiranha674 жыл бұрын

    I can definitely appreciate your "love of gold" where the Firefly is concerned. Needless to say it cost me a lot more, but I have a PRS CE with a goldtop finish and I love the look of it.

  • @OneMarkBand
    @OneMarkBand4 жыл бұрын

    Can you (anyone?) tell me the thickness of the neck on the HB35 Plus at the first fret? I get so tired of buying guitars and then selling them at a loss because my hands are very sensitive to necks that are not thick or wide enough. I know this is 1-11/16" wide but the thickness? Thanks and I hope you or someone can help.

  • @HerbonGuitar
    @HerbonGuitar4 жыл бұрын

    Great vid!!

  • @zazoomatt
    @zazoomatt4 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the Demo...........Lazy Sunday on Leap Year !

  • @Bob48
    @Bob48 Жыл бұрын

    Have bought 2 HB acoustics this past year and both were amazing...easily worth 2x the $$. The knock-off Martin solid wood 000 is far and above the best of all the ones I've tried. Going to roll the dice again on the lemon Drop 35. Love my PRS and Tele, but have a need for something new and sure as hell cant afford a 'genuine' 335 on a pensioners' salary! ..and POOH to all the snobs out there :) Thanks..great review.

  • @jessiejames2155
    @jessiejames21559 ай бұрын

    I love these comparisons !!! 😁👍🏻

  • @lincolnfromct34
    @lincolnfromct344 жыл бұрын

    Really interesting video. Lots of cool observations. Love H-Bs and FFs. The buyer wins either way.

  • @xx-gp4me
    @xx-gp4me4 жыл бұрын

    I would be willing to bet good money people are just gonna vote for whatever they bought to justify their purchase instead of looking at themselves and their guitar objectively.

  • @ModernGolfer

    @ModernGolfer

    4 жыл бұрын

    What if ya own both? Own both, enjoy both. Both are fine, but need to go to a GOOD luthier and get it 'tweaked' so it 'fits just right'. Just like EVERY guitar.

  • @desiretuiel

    @desiretuiel

    4 жыл бұрын

    Grrr. Let. Me. Validate mu decision with strangers!!!

  • @MYdjANDkaraoke

    @MYdjANDkaraoke

    4 жыл бұрын

    They dont compare to my epi dot deluxe, but my epi is about 20 years so dunno about the current ones. My firefly semi sounds great until you do an A /B comparison then harely wins and epi wins over harley. Value though harley wins. New guitarists I'd say firefly wins for cost and playability

  • @2bikemikesguitartopics145
    @2bikemikesguitartopics145 Жыл бұрын

    I know this is a 2019 video and it is now 2022 for this comment. But in 2017 I was able to get one of the original fireflies in red sold to a buddy's house in the states and I was able to go and pick it up because I couldn't get them in canada. I still can't get them in canada. I just ordered a Harley Benton HB 35 Plus in the metallic Plum front top and it's on the way. For my 2017 Firefly I pretty much expected that I would have to change a lot of things on it and I was right all I kept was the post studs and the tail piece everything else had to go. I upgraded everything and it became a really nice playable 335 style guitar which I still love. I'm hoping my Harley Benton arrives with less things to change than my Firefly did. From your review I clearly could hear that the Harley Benton was better even on the 2019 Firefly. But in the clean tones of the pickups I thought they were very very close. The whole Saga of my 2017 Firefly is on my channel if anyone is interested to look

  • @TomsGreenMind
    @TomsGreenMind4 жыл бұрын

    Appreciate your honesty! You can't buy integrity with affiliate money 😊

  • @60CycleHumcast

    @60CycleHumcast

    4 жыл бұрын

    i can buy diapers though, and some times thats more important than integrity, lol

  • @TomsGreenMind

    @TomsGreenMind

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@60CycleHumcast speaking from experience, you'll need all the diapers you can get 😂

  • @krushgroovin7513
    @krushgroovin75134 жыл бұрын

    Glad I accidentally clicked this link! I am a Harley lover & heard of the FireFly available through Amazon & GuitarsGarden.com & you just showed me that the next 2 will be from 🇩🇪 and one being the H35! Cheers

  • @DavidR59
    @DavidR59 Жыл бұрын

    Taking the moral high ground is a good phrase. I like good or strong integrity. Either way, thank you for your honesty!

  • @hiramstumpjumper2836
    @hiramstumpjumper28363 жыл бұрын

    ES style kits cost around $270, a decent rattle can finish $100, and with any upgrades added a guy is money ahead getting either of these guitars.

  • @erkanters
    @erkanters4 жыл бұрын

    I have de HB-35. I do like it very much. It is amazing! (And I have quite a few guitars.) Especially for the price: how do they do it?!

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