The odd patterns of hardfacing on the excavator bucket is made for a reason, not for show. The pattern will keep mud and clay in the groove and this adds to protect the bucket metal.

@samnottheotherone4363

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly, it's different for dirt, gravel, rocks, etc.

@williamguilfoyle3068

3 жыл бұрын

Looking cool is just a plus

@ParadigmUnkn0wn

2 жыл бұрын

A simple checkerboard pattern will do just as well as some intricate, artistic drawing. The fancy stuff really is just art, and the guys that do it will even tell you that. Y'all are just making stuff up.

@calebalt1557

2 жыл бұрын

@@ParadigmUnkn0wn not always, 90% of the time it is, but it makes sense sometimes to try to keep clay in the grooves, such as a checkered pattern

Watching this makes me realize the amount of effort that goes into hardfacing all of those surfaces on a dirt bucket. Even with multiple welders that is going to be a looooooong project.

good video to explain the hard facing process. I have used 309l as a builder and 58 rc rods as cap and on occasion 62 rc rods to cap.I have mostly done tractor bucket cutting edges and snow plow skid shoes seems to work well with out mig process and gas.. keep these educational videos coming we all can learn from you.

Always been interested in this process. Thanks for covering it Jason.

beautiful arc shots!

It's kinda Perfect this video popped up in my feed our local rock processing plant here just contacted me about picking up some of their hardfacing jobs when their welders fall behind. I've never done hardfacing on a serious scale just a couple backhoes here and there so this was a good refresher for me. I own me own business wher I specialize in structural welding, and a side business where I do custom handrails and gates.

Thank you so very much for this valuable demonstration...

Good shit! Alot more metallurgy and science behind the approach and this is something they didn’t bother with when I went to school for welding. Keep it coming😎🤙🏼

@Welddotcom

4 жыл бұрын

Stick around for tonights episode... We're getting our #weldnerd on

Glad to see a video that covers this, it will help me out at work. Working on chutes at the coal mine.

@simonbaker8776

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Eli, have you tried ceramic tiles on the chutes etc we use them on the screen boxes, hoppers and other wear parts on the screening plants at the steelworks for the foundry coke as it is very hard and extremely abrasive, there is bit of a knack of fixing them but they work well. Cheers Simon

Very good info and well explained.

I really like how you show the welding happening as Jerry is explaining what he's doing. Very cool and I'm going to use that in my videos. Genius man

I'm just an old man watching this for entertainment. I'm a disabled RN. I just took care of welders who made too many mistakes! LOL! Seriously, I'm hoping to maybe learn enough to do a little welding for myself so I can make something I don't have! Like a bandsaw! But, these guys at weld.com are awesome. I have learned so much just watching their videos.

@mcpheonixx

4 жыл бұрын

Only proven way to learn is to get under a hood and melt some metal! Even if it's just a cheap welder and cheap rods or wire, your still building muscle memory and developing an eye for it!

Was fun to see some harfacing, did so much chrome carbide and a bunch of different eutectic mixtures and butter passes in my apprenticeship, and stellite alloys 18-21, so good to know why it is used, and just how much you can extend your parts with it. Thanks, fella's.

Great video, lets have som more of Them, as there aint much about hardfacing on yt

I hated having to hardface augers, drilling heads and digger buckets with mig welding, the spatter burns like hell.

@sixbanga9524

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah buddy

@johndowe7003

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah it's like throwing a piece of chicken in the frying pan

@blueskybanshee8013

3 жыл бұрын

And don't breath them fumes they are poisonous as all hell.

There is some lovely freeze shots coming from that gun.

Metal core is a great process. I just got certified for metal core I'm in Ontario Canada so it's the CWB . I weld out tanks that store heavy water at reactors in Ontario. They have to be 100% leak free the metal core process works great. It's done on a line track set up makes beautiful welds I run at 30volts at 450inch and 90% argon 10% Co2. The down side is metal core is hard on nozzles and tips the spatter is exstreamly hard and dense other than that cheaper wire is prone to burn back so over all it does a good job.

I have been using hardfacing rod to put a new edge on brush cutter blades for years. I began building up the worn edges with standard wire and found they wore too quick and then ground them away and swapped to the hardfacing and WOW what a difference in performance and how long it lasts. The metal I am laying it on is alreay fairly hard so a base layer of semi hard doesnt seem needed. I have yet to have the hardfacing crack or snapp off, at least not were just the weld broke, did have a farm hand decide he wanted to cut concrete with the mower and snapped the entire blade.

Nice presentation 👍

Fume extractor is so crucial with all this hard surfacing. That's horrible metal fumes compared to 71 tubular and stick welding. Great video, good info!

@ParadigmUnkn0wn

2 жыл бұрын

Yep, lots of chromium.

I've run hard face on the bottoms of scrap magnets with sub Arc, but have also run quite a bit on other magnets with .060 mig. Smoke for days. Never ran a "base" layer. Magnets would come back years later for repair and the hard face was worn but still there.

Awesome video. I just did some hardfacing on my anvil I’m a blacksmith the anvil had some deep pits and cracks on the face. After grinding out all the cancer I filled with mild steel because the old anvil body is old wrought iron So I’m hoping the mild steel is a good in between filler. Then I used blue demon hardfacing flux core mig wire #.35. The alloy in h12 witch is a great hot work steel. After running three passes overlapping a little it came out like new unbelievable how nice it looks. I’m not a welder by any means. Just watching your videos gave me the inspiration and courage to tackle it. I don’t know if you ever used blue demon products but wow really quality wire. Lots of spatter and smoke but flux core does. Thanks again. Keep up the awesome work.....Paul.

@igorpadurjan5714

4 жыл бұрын

Did you preheat it before welding? Gonna crack up like shit if ya didn't

I used to put that on loader buckets and screw augers at the energy mill

good information

I do Inconel overlay on steam tube, all position, in boilers. Thicknesses of tube in the 1.30-1.50 range. 0.45 wire with 0.52 tips, straight argon from a liquid bottle on a manifold, my typical settings are 23.0v 340 ipm, I would highly recommend wearing a respirator and tyvek prepping or welding these materials.

I've done a bunch of hard facing. Customer of mine has a field tile biusness. The tile plow gets it a couple time a year depending on use. Never used a wire welder for this. I do have one. It's for milwright work up on grain bins and inside.

Good to know!

Nice explanation. Would have been nice to see the difference in spatter with different gas.

@MissionX5

4 жыл бұрын

Not difference in spatter... But, how co2 or ag o2 would change the chemistry of the weld.

I got a fever... And the only prescription is more weld.com

Hey I met that guy at my job cool to see him on the show haha

@GodslilRedneck23

4 жыл бұрын

Eli Santiago he knows his stuff. That’s for sure.

I'd like to see You use Hardfacing Mig Wire in a Broken Off Gear Tooth Repair. Thanks for the video.

thanks your video. It's very use-full. I have question to you. What kind of sprayed nozzle and tip? and how to keeping pre-heat, post heat temp?

A thousand years from now when archeologists dig up that bucket they will be scratching their heads while debating the significance of the design created by those nicely welded beads.

I presume using FCG you are running EN?? As with non-gas FC? This video is an eye-opener - never thought of that. Thank you... and for all the other invaluable lessons.

Welding Alloys L-G can be applied spatter free using 75/25 Ar/Co2 , LP-G can be applied in all positions, spatter free using 75/25 as well.

Just wondering could you use the same process to weld a snapped hydraulic breaker chisel tool.

Could you please tell me how you film the arc? using a specially designed camera?

Thanks Good Tech.

309 works well as buttering layer too

Memo to other blokes: After watching this video, do not suggest hard facing the wife’s credit card to reduce wear.... it doesn’t go down as well as you think.

@matthewhall5571

4 жыл бұрын

Matt Tradie wouldn't it be better just to put it in a toolbox and weld the lid shut? 😉

@dadillen5902

4 жыл бұрын

If you do "Hardface" is how she'll hit you😳

@ypaulbrown

3 жыл бұрын

now that is funny

Hard facing/ surfacing sucks, I had to do it years ago for a few months non stop on heavy equipment.. I hate it with a passion, it is very monotonous and slow with the stick welding process we used..

@johndowe7003

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah ive only ever done hard facing with a stick welder and it's kinda slow but it ain't too bad but im guessing if you got a huge work piece it would get boring

@MrMilky927

4 жыл бұрын

Try it using TIG even worse my friend.

@davetruther31

4 жыл бұрын

@@MrMilky927 No! I'm good..lol.. I will stick with my normal fab/welding.. God bless🙏

@danh8302

4 жыл бұрын

Need wear studs like tuffstudds, they work a lot better and go on much faster.

I just learned this after many years of running it mostly wrong. Seen many buckets the material bust off by cross checking. Just started doing this with a stoody 964g with lincore 60-0 on top. Also not mentioned is interpass Temps. Is really important to not get to hot... I would like to know about the co2, 75/25 or ag o2... How it effects hardness or impact resistance.

@johndowe7003

4 жыл бұрын

From what I read on the box of rods I used, it's not supposed to be over lapped or stacked. It tends to crack and split off

Any chance of a future video on tungsten carbide hardfacing (in granular form)? The wear protection is incredible compared to regular chromium carbide hardfacing. Applying it has been sketchy for me though.

@dathaneslinger8134

3 жыл бұрын

Roland, I've had the unique opportunity to specialize in the tungsten hardfacing and have 10+ years of trial and error/ experience. I loved doing it daily and enjoyed the quest to figuring out better conformity and consistency. Couple things that may help you ( imo) with the carbide pellet process that I found through the many days of struggling and fighting it. High quality tungsten overlay wire is a must in my opinion. Rankin, Stoody, Chronatron were my goto's and were in the 50-60's Rockwell range. Correctly sized Tungsten is mutually important. 16-20 mesh is a good starting point with equivalent cleaning screens for reclaiming and recycling unused tungsten that doesn't (impregnate)the wire matrix. 15-25 dollars a pound for the tungsten pellet so keeping waste down is religious like. Too big of tungsten pellet tends to bulge and distort overall quality of weld pass typically making it brittle and not friendly to impact. 👎 Fundamentally consistent prep, preheating, and part leveling are prerequisites to desired high quality work. I always used a size bigger tip and liner than the wire diameter as well as the shortest gun whip I could find usable. ( Helps reduce drag and feed problems with the alloyed flux core overlay wires) I can't express how much those lil tips helped with quality consistent tungsten hardfacing work. I could talk all day about this shit and my interest level hopefully is obvious. Roland if done correctly it is absolutely incredible and it saves customers money, prevents downtime and typically equipment is more productive when keeping the original dimensions of ground engaging parts much longer! ✌️

So are welding pads we did in class considered hard facing?

We used to weld hardfacing wire, stoody, on the wear package for drag line bucket. 80 series flux core carbon to carbon then 309 stainless flux carbon to cladding then cap off with stoody but it couldn’t touch the carbon or cladding. Pain in the butt considering most was out of position.

@danh8302

4 жыл бұрын

You need some wear studs like tuffstudds, beats the heck out of hard-facing. Especially on something large like that.

@TheCummins1212

4 жыл бұрын

dan h It would get sheets and strips of cladding all over the inside and bottom of the bucket. The hard face wire was just to preserve the weld that was holding the wear package on.

Could you use this to build up/restore the corners or face of a worn anvil? Can it be machined after it's applied or is it too hard?

@Fogyt121

2 жыл бұрын

You can use it, but you will have to temper it afterwards. It can be ground to shape, but I believe there are softer alloys that can be machined to shape.

Could I use this to up-armor my truck? Like run a bunch of beads on plate and use that to make armored panels to put in the doors

Would be appreciated over in the Blacksmith community if you guys could do a hardfacing repair on an ANVIL. Lots of guys doing repairs out there and I'm wondering if some of the techniques we are using could be updated. Not an expert welder here, but wonder if ANVIL hardfacing would neen a slightly different approach for an impact tool(anvil) as opposed to a wear resistant need on a tool. Then you can also get into the complecity of real wrought iron bonded to a tool steel plate like many Anvils. Just a thought and I know there is a huge community of smiths that'd appreciate it. Side note, you guys ever fire weld? Maybe hang out with a smith to check that out. I suspect you'd dig it! Thanks for the vids weld.com, I'm a blacksmith but a better hack arc welder because of you guys.

Had a rep from another hardfacing alloy company come in to do a presentation on their product. When asked, he seemed confused about why anyone would use a buildup/ buttering layer before applying hard alloy.... I always thought that seemed odd. I always figured that was standard practice for most facing applications.

@johndowe7003

4 жыл бұрын

Most company reps don't know shit😂 take their words with a grain of salt

@Welddotcom

4 жыл бұрын

Now you know 👍 Select Arc guys know their stuff. We spent two days at their facility in Troy Ohio doing process training.

@miszced

4 жыл бұрын

@@Welddotcom Select Arc has facility in Troy OH or Fort Loramie, OH? Hard to imagine SA being at HIWT considering who they are, unless one has bought the other in secrecy.

@duggfresh61

4 жыл бұрын

Both facilities in Ohio are owned by Select Arc. With a sister company, Arcos Industries LLC in Pennsylvania.

I hard faced back when I was a trades assistant at a engineering shop and I remember it was called stoddy wire it was super soft come out of a ‘squirt gun’ and kept getting jammed in the machine if you line wasn’t dead straight and if I remember right it was reverse polarity does this sound correct?

@tak252

3 жыл бұрын

Stoody is a company that makes many hardfacing alloys...sometimes these wires can have a soft strip and that makes them difficult to feed in some situations. And yes...most all hardface wires run in reverse polarity...electrode positive.

The word yall was looking for is "buffer"😉glad I could help

problem with gas outdoors on a equipment hardfacing job is the wind - I've stuck to stick,.. pretty fast for a sticker but I'd love to see something about a 'flux core' version??

@johndowe7003

4 жыл бұрын

Yup, stick for the win

@jamesgarrison6430

4 жыл бұрын

I have only used stick so far and I can get 6010 to look like 7018

Can you do some isos and take offs.

can jou stick weld like this as well??

I found it somewhat confusing. Would have liked to hear about the alloy type needed to get this wear surface as efficient and long lasting as possible. Thanks for sharing and putting out great instructional materiel!

@OriginalBrett610

4 жыл бұрын

Pierre Flamand It will vary depending on the application.

When welding hard surface or any heavy metals, it is recommended to wear I fresh air mask. Bad things could happen later on in life. Great video.

Im searching for hardfaceing with stick welding out in the field. If you dont have one please work that out. Its important to me.

What is the interpass temperature in this process?

I love my esab Rebel welder

Level two student from Canada here! Just got done the GMAW chapter at school, why would you not use an 85/15 or a 90/10 mix to achieve ionization for spray transfer? I understand Co2 has deeper penetration but more heat is what I would think a guy would want. Also why not make your parent metal "hard" by heating it and quenching it?

@chrisbostrom343

4 жыл бұрын

They use 75/25 cause it’s cheaper

@pyro...5986

4 жыл бұрын

@@chrisbostrom343 Okay yes but that still doesn't answer my question.

@MissionX5

4 жыл бұрын

You are not trying to penetrate. And you don't want too hard, or chunks of the hardface come off. So you are adding a surface layer, that is slighter harder then say a bucket lip... (if this will also be a for build up if lip is worn.) white paper will tell you how many layers it can do. The hard top layer is usually 2 layers max. This were you get the most abuse. What I have seen by doing the method explained in the video the cross checking will be reduced.

@Wiking419

4 жыл бұрын

Hardfacing is faster than quenching and tempering, but I suppose it is already done, the thing is, no matter how wear resistant steel you put it's going to wear down after usage. If you only quench metal (if quenchable, meaning with at least 0.50% Carbon in it) it needs tempering, else you have extremely hard as well as brittle material. You can also use the sticks that require basic pass, and then two layers of hardfacing electrodes for high carbon steel, high alloy steel, or high manganese steels. One of the best are UTP sticks that in two layera give up to a amazing 62HRC. Cheers

Interesting comment about not having enough argon in the mix causing spatter. So if you were running tig argon it wouldn't spatter as much? I know the one time I tried to tig when someone had given me a mig mix bottle it felt like I didn't even have gas.

@misplacedcaper9662

3 жыл бұрын

Straight Argon for tig. Made this mistake as well when I picked up my first tig machine, borrowed a bottle of mig mix from a friend. Made a mess.

Do you need to preheat the material before you start hard facing I have some old tillage shares that I want to hard face

@MissionX5

4 жыл бұрын

I take the moisture out of steel... With a weed burner... What the don't say is interpass temperatures are really important! Don't get it too hot.

@MissionX5

4 жыл бұрын

Yes pull the moisture out with a weed burner.

@johndowe7003

4 жыл бұрын

Just give it a small preheat to dry the steel, it doesn't really need it though imho

@MissionX5

4 жыл бұрын

@@melissahill7930 are you sure? Yes you are right. Pretty cool how it works...

Guys got a IW local 786 sticker??? Representing Sudbury right on!

@jeepwk6.5L

4 жыл бұрын

JTwelder what local you out of?

@JTwelder.

4 жыл бұрын

@@jeepwk6.5L Boilermakers local 128

@jeepwk6.5L

4 жыл бұрын

JTwelder right on. I’m out of pipefitters LU 157

What would work to hardface A-36 for the top of an anvil? I welded a 1 1/2” thick by 8” x 12” to the top of a 60 pound cast iron anvil. It works well enough in that the welds are holding very well. But the surface dents too easily. I’d like to toughen it without trying somehow to surface harden it. I’ve done that on some other steel, and it doesn’t work that well. The hardening isn’t thick enough. It doesn’t need to be too hard, just tough. I can machine it flat on my mill later with carbide.

@TDJDriftersBoss

4 жыл бұрын

Mel Gross probably need to harden it by heating the whole thing up

@melgross

4 жыл бұрын

TooManyHobbies not that simple.. it can only be thinly surface hardened. That’s not enough.

Burned tons of this stuff. When things go well it takes about 6-7 hours burning a 15kg spool. If we have to build up on hardox before hardfacing we usually use stainless as the build up.

So if I understand this correctly, normal flux core is sufficient for hardfacing? Or is it special fluxcore? Could a hacksaw blade cut through this weld?

@tak252

3 жыл бұрын

Not sure what you mean by normal flux core...but if you are meaning joining wire like 71T-1 then no. Hardfacing wires are much harder and abrasion resistant. A hacksaw may be able to cut into the buildup wire they used...but it will not touch the hardface alloy. At 58 Rockwell C it is as hard or harder then the hacksaw blade.

Would e71t work?

I think the term you’re looking for when describing the “BU” wire is called a buttering layer.....

@MoltenMouseMetal

4 жыл бұрын

What what?

@Freetheworldnow

4 жыл бұрын

@@MoltenMouseMetal Hard on hard will cause cracs. The mid layer acts like a sub floor, so to speak. Absorbing the chock load once the part is being put back in fonction again.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isnt metalcore supposed to be pushed?

Please show hard facing by stick welding smaw at 3g and 4g please

I've been running some Hobart AmourWear on skidsteer buckets that get used on concrete floors. And it runs horrible compared to this stuff you guys are using

Hardfacing is amazing things, and cost for this is double, it's like we buying 2 excavator bucket for 1 bucket. But the quality is 4x stronger than usual bucket.

Just remember that when using hard facing rod and your hardness lasts over 4 hours , you should seek professional help or a professional grinder!

@kristianskov4841

4 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣 Professional grinders cost money.... at least the really pro one's......

@mattgaming8717

4 жыл бұрын

Must not be a Welder then

@matthewmcdaniel8846

4 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

Hello , I’m Andrew. I used to do that the old style with 5/32 stick electrodes. (Abrassador) produced a lot of smoke , very hard deposits, couldn’t put a scratch with a grinder. We were only allowed to make one layer. Is this the same.? Thanks for your time and awesome videos.

🔥🤙🏻

I don't get why he wipes the antispater spray of. Aren't you supposed to leave it on except on the area to be welded?

How bout addressing hardfacing with stick electrodes and pre heat

@SH19922x

4 жыл бұрын

Same principle except it takes a bit longer but less spatter to clean up as well. Use 3.2mm size and higher rods for facing. This guy was a bit rough in his technique but still good but its only hard facing not structural as this guy said

@20112275

4 жыл бұрын

Better use lincore 55 self shield 5/64 dia. Flux cored wire, super fast!

I've had my slag curl up in like a sheet horns

With the amount of buildup along one edge of the plate I really anticipated the plate to be visibly warped but it still looks pretty flat. I suppose the hard facing BU and Top layer has some extra wizardry in it to avoid heat shrinking?

If I had a nickel for every conveyor pulley I've hardfaced. I'd have a bunch of nickels. Used to hard face the grizzly bars on the crushers as well. Sand plant wares em out fast. That hard facing is nasty stuff. I always wore a respirator.

That spatter there at …….10:25..... is going to be very hard...it'll mess up scrapers and chisels...time to grind.

Never done hard facing with mig. I know alot of the hard facing stick rods suck.

Good welding but those type of welds would not be permitted at the shipyards it would be considered a wash pass but great video overall 👍🏻

@thebigmacd

4 жыл бұрын

I doubt they are doing much hard facing in shipyards.

Just so you know, I can't see the text when my phone is sideways which would be nice if you could remake the video and just raise the text, it would be perfect.

Can you weld together neodynium magnets to opose each other? Or weld them together to make a super magnet?

I fucking love welding🤘

So this could be used to reface a old anvil that has a old worn out face?

@terryrafter4116

4 жыл бұрын

For a wrought iron base anvil, preheat to 400 degrees (use a weed burner), lay down a base with stoody 2110 (unlimited passes), then cal with stoody 1105 (top 3 passes only). This will give a rockwell of 50 to 52C. You can fine this proceedure online at www.Anvilmag.com/smith/anvilres.htm

That weld in the plate don't looks the same the one in the pic's in the beginning

Been harfacing going onto 4 years now... never don’t any surfacing like this and out Rockwell Is 85 hardness and the minimum at at 65 Rockwell there’s a plethora of different metallurgical mixtures in the wire I use all non gas shielded 1/8” flux core 11/4” wide weld, it’s heavy duty shit 🤟

@danh8302

4 жыл бұрын

What are you putting it on?

@dylanryan7240

4 жыл бұрын

dan h stainless plates, mild steel 3/4”-11/2” plate mostly, dredger buckets, screws, sleuths, industrial wood mulchers anything for mining mostly shipping out to Mexico and northern Quebec Canada

Isnt that essentially "turtle shelling"?

Try the oxy acetylene spray on kind sometime

@jackgarrett7349

4 жыл бұрын

I've done spray welding before. Heavy ass gun that had oxygen, acetylene, and compressed air to run the gun. Then it was pulling a huge aluminum wire through it to melt and spray. We used it to "galvanize" places where salt water got into. Not very fun when the gun is acting up.

I thought hardfacing was a poker face......😎

Did it for about a year on stabilizers except I had machine way hotter

hardfacing without a first layer will only soften the base metal with all that heat

Why not just use hardened ARC rods?

Why is the weld being dragged?

would hardfacing be machinable like on a worn out anvil face

Lit but so much buckshot whyyyy ? My Qc would help me clean if I had that much 😂😂

@Welddotcom

4 жыл бұрын

That particular wire does better with a higher argon content. We kept it all at 75/25

Has anyone successfully run this stuff uphill? Cause I sure as hell can’t do it! And I can weld my ass off. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thank you

I do that shit with copper and it’s some nasty shit to weld on!!!