People use those as impact sockets and they shatter like glass. Then they bitch and call them cheap. I ALWAYS look at the wall thickness. one trick is to have thinner material farther into the socket. Usually the socket fits tight shallow but deeper in , they wallow around. I invested in Sears Craftsman 30 years ago and am still using that same set today. I actually had two sets of tools because I had a mobile unit to do repairs and got tired of dragging tools back and forth between my vehicle and the shop. After my cancer, I sold my shop tools and kept my mobile tools just for regular service. Now I dont do many repairs short of buying lawn mowers to repair and sell.

A few years ago the reason the single Stanley professional chrome socket sets went up in price is Stanley came out with 4 bigger mechanic tool sets that were sold mostly through like Walmart and Lowe's along with the kobalt stuff before they started carrying the craftsman after sears went out of business...

The set was made for Euro cars! On my BMW i never used 18mm but use 19mm & 21mm on my suspension. Mine are for the 1/2" drive sockets.

Its been my experience that tools and goods made in Taiwan are far better made than Chinese.

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@1990notch

5 жыл бұрын

I agree. Also, I'd much rather spend money on Taiwan goods than China.

The insides are actually nickel plated with a clear coat, trouble with Stanley is they don't usually clear coat the inside over the nickel chromate.

I agree very good value for the price. However, I could not figure out how to remove the sockets from the holder.

My 16s and 18s sat unused for almost a decade, then I needed both in the same week.

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

Murphy's Law?

@SDMFTommySick

4 жыл бұрын

Been there

Those Quin sockets look just like Duralast sockets

Harbor Freights prices seem higher especially without that 20% coupon. That set you have is $14.99 now.

The Quinns look very similar to Kobalt- almost a dead ringer.

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

It definitely looks like onw of the Kobalt sets I've seen.

@gzrgldr8288

5 жыл бұрын

Probably the same factory. I have both and really can't tell the difference, other than the Quinn's are a whole lot cheaper

@MegaLostOne

5 жыл бұрын

One difference I have noticed is Quinn deep sockets are 6 point and shallow are 12 point, Kobalt is 12 point deep socket and 6 point shallow. Basically flipped on the 6 vs 12 point sets. I wish the Kobalts where 6 point on the deep sockets so I could fill out the Quinn set and stay all 6 point on deep well. I also wish Quinn offered a choice between 6 and 12 point sets, I prefer the 6 point sockets since there is less of a chance of rounding off a nut/bolt. I know 12 point has it's place but I have rarely come across a need for them and reach for the 6 point sockets first.

I bought that quinn set. I like them so far. A trip to Home Depot for a deep 18mm solved the problem. I also got a 6, 7, 8, 9 and 20mm somewhere else. 21 mm is practically non-existent in 3/8 drive, so I have no idea where that came from. I never used an 18 until I started working on my 2005 GMC Yukon Denali. It has 18mm all over the place.

These have been doing really good for me. Sturdy and nice look

Great Review

As of 2020-12-14 the price of the Quinn set is $14.99. So the price has doubled(?) in the two years since this video was uploaded. Still a good price, but that is some inflation.

I'm old. I like the big size numbers. Good video. Thanks.

I used an 18mm socket a few years ago and I was surprised as I'd never used it before.

I hate skips will pay extra for full set

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

#metoo

Quin are $16.99 right now. 9/21/21

Great suggestion and comparison. It’s nice to have you back buddy. Keep up the good work 👍

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you, my friend.

18mm is the worst skip... I couldn't care less when 16mm is skipped because a 5/8 will work in it's place... Or 11, a 7/16 replaces... Or 19, a 3/4 replaces... 18 has no fractional replacement.

@HardKnocksForge

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I'd rather them skip the 19mm, because 3/4" is just a few thou off and is a direct replacement for 19mm.

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

You know it.

@billmalec

5 жыл бұрын

18 is also never used.

@bigd-bf1qq

5 жыл бұрын

@@billmalec ive used 18 more times than i care to count compare to the 19

@0509kj

5 жыл бұрын

They skip 18 on alot of the wrench sets also - it's annoying. The Pittsburgh Pro 1/2 drive deep sockets has 18 and same with the Pittsburgh S-shaped wrenches (99699) also has 18

I don't know man. I never broke a Stanley socket but I also never broke a Pittsburgh socket. I'll have to let time go on. They usually don't Warrenty tools that you didn't buy from them even if it's their brand

18mm is one of the sizes i use most

"Red-headed step child" 🤣😂🤣🤦‍♀️

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

They hate that 18mm child!

I have mostly craftsman sockets myself but would like to pick up a set of "mid length" sockets. As a DIY I do a lot of wrenching cause we drive older vehicles. The Stanley set fits that bill for under $20. Not that I need it. I've gotten by for over 30 years with the sockets I have....but as a treat to myself😉 They would have come in handy on many occasions. Great video, keep them coming.

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

Gearwrench middies occasionally go on sale on Amazon and are definitely worth looking into.

i use 18 and 20 often. cummins b3.3 use those two pretty often

Nice review brother. The Quinn sockets actually are really good especially for the money. Thanks for sharing.

Nice review, that's a 3/8 drive kit in your video , Something that is very Interesting is that Quinn also makes a 10mm & 11mm in their 1/2 drive deep socket set too, that is kinda rare, most companies start their 1/2 drive sets with 12mm. Several tool companies don't even make a 1/2 drive socket smaller than 12mm. ...anyhow, I thought that was worth mentioning.

My store actually has the Quinn a couple dollars less than Pittsburgh and had a coupon for a little while making them even cheaper. I bought 1/2” , 3/8” , and 1/4” in metric and sae in both shorts and deeps and I have not broke one in 3 months now. My only gripe is the 3/8” set skipping 18 and mismatching the short and deeps after 18. They should have simply done 10-19 no skips and made other sizes available separately. And why the 1/2” set is a mirror copy of the 3/8” is mind boggling. Actually the 3/8” set has bigger sizes than the 1/2” set. 🤦🏼‍♂️ So close to getting it right and they just couldn’t get it right. But great great quality at a great great price nonetheless

I was very happy with the 1/4” drive sets I tested

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

I think you're just a happy person, in general.

@BradsWorkbench

5 жыл бұрын

Lmao, oh if the guys I worked with ever saw this

18MM IS AND CAN BE A COMMON SIZE.DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU WORK ON!

I can see 3 different versions of those Quinn sockets locally

great video

You got that right about the 8,10,14,17,19,21 nice comparisons!

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

JIS ftw!

Quinn set is only 2 steps down from, believe it or not, SnapOn!!!! Use both side to side!!!!

@mdlee52

4 жыл бұрын

Nowhere near as prestigious, but they work just the same for me!

30% off coupon available for HF this weekend for items under $10. Makes a hell of a deal

The Quinn short 3/8” set skips 18 and gives you a 22. WTF

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

Conspiracy.

Personally I’d pass on amazon and just order online from HF. For those that aren’t aware, you can apply multiple 20% coupons when ordering online! Hit the coupon database first, record the 20% coupon codes, then when you’re done shopping try applying a different 20% code per item that allows coupons in your cart. You still only get one freebie per order online or in store but you save big $$$ using those coupons for online orders. Shipping is very reasonable too. Just putting it out there, try it out😉

Great review, thanks. I do wish that HF wouldn't skip sizes. Harbor Freight, are you watching??? II gave my father in law my old Dodge Dakota 4x4 when I got a new Ram. He liked that I always had tools on board my vehicles so when I gave him the truck I wasn't about to leave my 30 year old US made Craftsman tools in it, so I went to HF and got him a set of wrenches, set of screwdrivers and the Quinn 3/8 drive SAE/MM socket set. He had a leak in the power steering a few weeks later and tried changing it himself, the darn thing needed 16 and 18mm open end wrenches and 16mm sockets, which the HF/Quinn didnt include! So, after helping him, I went to Lowes and bought him the individual Kobalt wrenches and sockets to fill out the sets. Annoying, but manageable. Still, the Quinn stuff is very nice, and i would say exceptional for the great price.

Great video long time no hear from.

Hi Buck! love your channel

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

Hey Monte, good to see you on here! I'll sub to you.

The 18mm is left out because it's rarely used AND they want you to buy it.

@mdlee52

4 жыл бұрын

Well, if you work on Ford or Chrysler you're going to need it.

Looking online, the 1/2 inch drive Quinn deep set comes with the 18mm. 10mm through 19mm

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

I suppose that's one way to make up for it. I would really like to see it in this set, though.

I just bought 15 piece Stanley set on clearance at Walmart for $11. It's only missing 23mm.

Nice video and great buy!

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

I think they've gone up a little bit since I bought them several months ago, but they're still a great buy for what they are. Thanks, Mike.

Hello. Can you say anything about USA made Stanley Workmaster 3/8 drive shallow 6 point Sockets quality? Thinking to pick up them ....

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

I am unfamiliar with those.

@workingcountry1776

5 жыл бұрын

Never seen them. Plz send link

Thanks for the video MDLEE

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

No problem, Dave.

Craftsman, Stanley, a couple of other brands also did the same thing about not having the 18mm in a set back when they were still made in the USA In some of the sets you could find the 18mm but mostly the left them out unless you actually spent the time to look for it or stumbled upon on accident

@mdlee52

4 жыл бұрын

That's weird.

There to me the same quality to stanley but big fucken but when you break a dam stanley amd you take it to walmart for a exchange the service desk looks at you with a stupid face for about the next 20min to change it and after like 5 managers yea I think I'll just stick to hf

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, my Stanley said on the package to deal directly with Stanley. I know for a lot of people the harborfreight warranty process is a lot more convenient.

I don't know why the 18mm s is misssing. In the late 70s and early 80s when metric tools were rolling out the new sets skipped the 8,11,&16. This was because the 5/16,7/16 & 5/8 were the same size. Then came the half size metric 4.5, & 5.5. I always bought new sets to cover the sizes and now have sets from the big five Cornwell, Mac, Matco, Snap On ,& S-K. I also tried the GearWrench socket sets and have been very happy with them.

@1pcfred

5 жыл бұрын

When it all began to go horribly wrong. Metric hardware then Torx were just ploys to make us buy more tools. Already have the whole standard set? Well time to buy this new set then. They look exactly the same and do the exact same thing too, but they're all different. Well mostly different. Now you'll be needing a bigger toolbox too, won't you? We've been played.

Ive seen that alot from the hft sets... we have alot of 18mm heads on fasteners on the engines i work on so hard to say, i paid like 9 bucks with coupon i had, jury still out on em yet though, so far so good though

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

It's just annoying, you know? I would be willing to pay more if they included that socket.

Good review,thanks. I just bought this metric set for $13.99 and noticed it's dropped to $11.99. I've heard that they will refund the difference if you bring back the receipt. In regards to the 18mm socket missing, I've never needed that size. I still use my USA craftsmen metric set that's over 30 years old. It's also missing the 18mm. It jumps from 17mm to 19mm!?

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

How often do you work on Ford trucks and vans?

I'd much rather HF bump up the price to not skip sizes. The least they could do is sell the skipped sizes individually.

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

I totally agreed.

@dakotawoodell2044

5 жыл бұрын

HF is coming out with a new icon line that will cost more and wont skip sizes

@davelawrence39

5 жыл бұрын

@@dakotawoodell2044 when the released date

I agree with the bigger numbers they are easier to read. we need both socket sets, because the shorter one 's work in tight area's, and the bigger heavier ones also do well to have.

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

Yep!

I can't find that six side set you doing here

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

How can I help you?

Good post, comparison sir. My wife gave me a Stanley socket set for Xmas, i giggled at it but the truth is i really like the standard sockets, they match an old husky set, they are a little bit taller unlike gr. That are short and you are right, the deep are almost a semi deep, short in depth.

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

The variety is nice to have.

@martinschaffmeir7729

5 жыл бұрын

@@mdlee52 true sir

Good Review Bro! Is the 18 mm individual Quin Socket available at HF?

@mdlee52

4 жыл бұрын

No.

I have a couple of sets of the Quinn sockets and for the money you can't beat them great sockets.

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

They are a great addition to Harbor Freight.

Great video thanks brother. Stanley owned by Mac tools. Like in the video I did by your request. The Mac set I have does the same. The smaller size you would think are mid length and gradually steep up. I know my set is from the 90s but are still the same today. The letters and numbers are there but you have to look closely. The best part is that they have the knarling on them. Keep up the great work see you in the next video thanks again brother great comparison

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Scott.

@1pcfred

5 жыл бұрын

Mac owns Stanley? You have that backwards. Stanley acquired Mac in 1980. Along with Proto 1984 and Blackhawk 1986 at around the same time. Stanley is a huge international conglomerate. Today Stanley is known as Stanley Black & Decker because Stanley merged with them too. But it is still the same old Stanley always turning the screws.

@RockandrollNegro

5 жыл бұрын

@@1pcfred You're correct, Stanley owns Mac and damn near every other tool brand. Craftsman tools are all Stanley now.

@1pcfred

5 жыл бұрын

@@RockandrollNegro Stanley is viewed by some as being a bit of a juggernaut in the corporate world. With all of the connotations that may imply. They will bury you! I still like their vintage stuff and have a small collection of it. Not too long ago I cleaned up a tool in my shop and saw a sweetheart mark on it. I didn't even know it was. That was a good day.

@stwhite5135

5 жыл бұрын

@@1pcfred I have a nephew named Stanley.

I have a lot of Stanley. You're right about the stamping, it sucks. The chrome is a lot better on the new sockets. The deep wells never bothered me. Like you said, if it was a problem, just grab a wrench. I'd rather them skip the 16mm, since you can use a 5/8 in it's place.

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

Valid points. Great video you posted!

@toolinhand

5 жыл бұрын

@@mdlee52 thanks, man!

that would piss me off i have 18 mm bolys on my ram 2500 the brake caliper bracket bolts

If you do alignments all day, you probably need an 18mm. It's the one borrowed from me all day

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

That's how it goes!

@SillyOmega

5 жыл бұрын

That's one of the reasons poeple buy cheaper tools now. It's not good when expensive tools grow legs.

9.99 with coupon through Jan 31st

The Quinn line that HF came out with is pretty good quality, definitely a step up from the Pittsburgh tools. I have been eyeing up the Quinn sockets, I just wish they would have included the 18mm, even if they charged a couple extra bucks, it would be nice to have it complete.

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

I agree all the way around.

@ratrod67

5 жыл бұрын

Better than the Pittsburgh Pro as well? I'll have to check them out for sure.

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

I like the larger size markings at the blue line for metric and red line for SAE. Those are both upgrades over the Pittsburgh Pros.

@1pcfred

5 жыл бұрын

I think the Pittsburgh Pro Taiwan made tools are all pretty good. Good enough for me. I've had trouble finding certain sets I want. I do a lot of flea markets and there's always folks there selling bins of sockets. Usually a buck a socket. Mostly they're stupid sizes though. Occasionally I find what I'm looking for. I have a Post-It note sheet I keep in my wallet with a list of wants. Because I can't remember all that crap.

Just got a socket from Matco 10mm in 1/4 didn’t say USA called them and said all the chrome 1/4 is made in Taiwan. The 6 point 1/4 set in shallow is $212.95

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

Highway robbery!

@rjw261984

5 жыл бұрын

Silver eagle socket? They have 2 lines of tools. 1 asian and 1 USA.

@LEGOCAMARO

5 жыл бұрын

rjw that’s what I told them they said in 3/8 and 1/2 they have USA and over seas but for 1/4 all made over seas

@rjw261984

5 жыл бұрын

@@LEGOCAMARO wow! Thats good to know.

MD Lee, where have you been ?

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

I know, I know... LOL I was actually working on a video today but got interrupted several times and finally gave up. Believe me, I'm probably about 35 or 40 videos behind at this point... We'll see what I can get out before the end of the month.

Got a suggestion for a quality set of half in deeps made in usa with out skips... Not snap on prices either.. maybe 100$ or so for set

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

S·K or BoxoUSA would be the two best bets I know of. You'll probably be over $100 though...

@jamesf9610

5 жыл бұрын

Some tekton tools are USA and great priced. I don't know about the sockets where they are made but they do have both Taiwan and USA made tools.

Quinn is the way better Deal

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

Very much agreed!

Well with most foreign manufacturers there is no need for 18mm it's mainly a thing in domestic vehicles.

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

I suspected as much.

Quinn is on my radar. I may pick the 1/2 inch set this spring. Thanks for the comparison!

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

They are good to go.

The 18 is more for domestic cars. I have wanted to buy the quinn but always out of stock

@humansvd3269

5 жыл бұрын

Buy online.

Or they probably don't know how to count

You got a deal for yours there 13.99 at my local harbor freight 😞

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

I bought mine several months ago, right after they were released.

@Bonezz024

5 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same. I just bought mine for 9.99 today but half that would have been wild.

I have it on good authority that 18 is an unlucky socket number!

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

Lol

Great Video Mdlee52

Quinn is a 3 dollers more exspensive then Pittsburg

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

What are the sizes in the Pittsburgh set?

@AntonioClaudioMichael

5 жыл бұрын

@@mdlee52 there the same sizes as the Quinn no matter if there metric or sae

I asked a German friend about why manufactures skip the 18MM. He said it is a size rarely used. I don't know myself as I don't work that much. :) But a good review here mdlee.

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

I know 18 mm is extremely common in Ford and also common in Chrysler. I don't think they get many Fords or Chryslers over in Asia, LOL.

@wyattoneable

5 жыл бұрын

@@mdlee52 That could be true too. My German friend (of all things) works on older Harleys so his tool set is full of American size tools.

@rjw261984

5 жыл бұрын

@@mdlee52 also on GM. You need an 18 and 19mm to do the front brakes. (Silverado)

@danwojtanowski5524

5 жыл бұрын

18mm is the size on nut on Doge truck bed!

@Shakerhood69

5 жыл бұрын

18mm is on the idler pulley on my Ford, also think the steering rack bolts were 18.

I wont buy a set with skips because most of the time buying single sockets are really expensive (USA made).

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

Good point. That's how they get you.

@rjw261984

5 жыл бұрын

@@mdlee52 yes sir. Proto and SK seem to be the cheapest when it comes to individual sockets.

Do a torture test, let's see which one is better

I paid $325.00 for one Snap Off 18mm

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

Seriously?

those look like duralast sockets,

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

Agreed. And Kobalt.

I'll take an 21mm over an 18mm everyday of the week.

WTF, no 18? If you work on anything domestic you NEED an 18. I bought the Pittsburgh impact set and had to buy an 18 deep well from northern tool for 8 bucks, the whole set of Pittsburgh was 19.00

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

I hear you!

@jasonfoster8871

5 жыл бұрын

I like duralast. Giant case but thin walled and no skips

Where are the Snap on snobs ? They usually cant resist weighing in on vids like this.

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

This video might be below their viewing standards!

@1pcfred

5 жыл бұрын

I bet you think Snap-On tools are expensive, don't you? But unless you're a government contractor with access you don't know even the smallest fraction of the story. Snap-On and the US Army are buddies going way back. The first sets of sockets Snap-On made they sold to Uncle Sam. Private mechanics just don't have that cozy relationship with Snap-On like the government does. The government with a 5 trillion dollar a year budget. Starting to see where Snap-On gets its pricing from? They can't very well sell you tools for cheaper than their army buddies now can they? Their army buddies that learned finances from drunken sailors. Who also like Snap-On tools.

@jlaw9772

5 жыл бұрын

@@1pcfred And ?????

@1pcfred

5 жыл бұрын

@@jlaw9772 and they don't need you.

@jlaw9772

5 жыл бұрын

@@1pcfred And ??????

Lololol people talking about they would rather it be made in india or taiwon vs china. Im gonna try and explain fast, you cannhave quality from china, apple is made there and many good products. Its usually the investor who wants the lower quality cheaper tools. They control the price and quality, not the chinese worker. Trust me, the china,en can work circles around the average american man. Just saying guys

@mdlee52

4 жыл бұрын

True statements. Harbor Freight tools generally follow the Taiwan, China, India from best to worst, though.

I would buy Harbor freaight tools over stanley tools all day long and twice on Sunday LOL. Bad comparison review.

Look like kobalt from Lowes.

@DereksWorkshopAndProjects

5 жыл бұрын

Dustin Nolen I thought the same thing when I first saw them. Of course they are a quarter of the cost of Kobalt sockets too!

In the USA the car manufacturers use 18mm, yet there is no replacement for their "standard" size of spanners ( wrench ) and sockets, eg 1/2 inch, come on USA, do better, the germans are coming, klein are now selling in the U.K , went to a trade exbo, the ONLY company that was NOT selling their tools at a discount from retail is klein,they are the new kids on the block, I dont think klein can get into any market, wrong attitude, higher retail price than established brands, its the same price and some even more than knippex ! Trades buy the product from the fair, which are cheaper than retail, like the product, keep buying it, then tell others that buy it, like it, tell others.... etc

Went to look at them. Why does every set come with an 11mm and a 15mm? You never need them. The sets should be 6,8,10,12,13,14,17,19 or 8......21.

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

I just want a set with no skips. 15mm is often used in GM.

@billmalec

5 жыл бұрын

@@mdlee52 probably isn't 15mm. Most likely sae.

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

Definitely 15.

@mdlee52

5 жыл бұрын

11mm fairly common on German cars.

@billmalec

5 жыл бұрын

@@mdlee52 I've had VWs forever. Never seen an 11mm anywhere. The only time they use the odd(off) sizes is in stuff they don't want you to take apart (for your own good).