Aaagh! Gremlins got into the system and I accidentally cut off the first few minutes of the video. The original (truncated) video and all its comments are here if you want to check it out: kzread.info/dash/bejne/aZqclZmYprOdmJc.htmlsi=thsXFN-jqym2ECV5

@SimonJD1000

9 ай бұрын

Thought something wasn’t quite right!

My Dear, dear lockn00b, you're flogging a dead horse! The last video was excellent. The Chinese DD Pick isn't. And as my grandad always used to say, "a bad workman blames his tools." 😂 Cheers and all the best to you and yours 👍 🍻

@LockNoob

9 ай бұрын

👍👍👍

I'm just going to say the same here. Irrespective of whether the tool is any good we shouldn't support Haoshi ripping off others work by buying this. No new thinking there to justify.

@PaulSteMarie

9 ай бұрын

Did BB and LPL rip off the earlier picks? I mean, this seems to be a crappy pick, but i don't think one could identify the original inventor of this style of disc detainer picks at this point in time.

@JohnSmith-gs4lw

9 ай бұрын

Who-copied-who debate notwithstanding, you need to ask WHY you would choose this pick. It’s clearly not an improved design (round shaft, etc) so what does it have going for it where you could make a rational argument for choosing it over the Sparrows? Usually, Asian items have price going for them. Cheapskates like me will sacrifice (some) quality to save a buck. Sometimes many bucks. But that’s not the case here. For the same price, you get an unusable tool. Hard pass. If you’re looking for tools on [unnamed] Asian websites, suggest you look for Lishi tools, plug spinners, and dimple picks, to name a few. You can save a lot of money, and still get very usable tools. Get your picks from the usual suspects.

@LockNoob

9 ай бұрын

Some interesting thoughts here

I'm glad you did a review of this pick, I was thinking of getting one, not anymore. Thanks for sharing Ash and enjoy the rest of your weekend mate.

@LockNoob

9 ай бұрын

I mean for the right price maybe? I do think the sparrows one is made better

I have to say I like the Sparrows tool. Have great success with it in its original form and have made some new noses out of roll pins. Not sure what you call them where you are 😀 Very good review as always 👍 🐾🐈‍⬛🐈🐾🍻

@NothingPicksLocks

9 ай бұрын

I do the same thing! Roll pins are perfect for making new tensioning noses for all different sorts of locks.

@chriscapune7873

9 ай бұрын

@@NothingPicksLocks yup!!! They Rock them Roll pins 😅😂😅😎🐈‍⬛

@LockNoob

9 ай бұрын

Thanks!

Nice video, great way to spread the word. When Sparrows first launched that tool it was listed for $1,000,000 USD. So the knockoff was a good deal. But now not so much.

@LockNoob

9 ай бұрын

👍

That’s quite annoying that it doesn’t come with a tip that can be used out of the package. But it is very nice looking. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this one! ❤️🥰😘😍☺️

@LockNoob

9 ай бұрын

Thanks! 😁

At that price point there's no benefit to getting the knockoff, even if you could find it for half the price I'd still go with the Sparrows for severial reasons. First off, just on the practical side. Sparrows tools are made VERY well, and their QC is solid, so there's MUCH less chance of getting a lemon. In addition, Sparrows customer service is EXCELENT. Over the years I've contacted them severial times, mostly to ask questions or offer suggestions on a few of their ads on FB, and they've always been responsive. The ONE time I had an issue with a product (the Doubletap pick I purchased was missing a few tips, they sent me an entire new set of tips, with expedited shipping, free of charge) so in the RARE instances something does go wrong, Sparrows will make it right.... Good luck getting any sort of support from the knockoff. Secondly, while I don't know for a fact, I assume that LPL and Bill get some sort of royalties from the Sparrows picks. Both of these youtubers are AMAZING assets to the lockpicking community and deserve our loyalty and support.

@penfold7800

9 ай бұрын

I don't think they get any royalties. I think they just Licenced it to be made and sold by Sparrows, but they retain the ownership of the design as far as I'm aware.

@LockNoob

9 ай бұрын

Knock offs are a big shame really

Not supporting it or shunning it but it’s definitely been up graded since this one you have. Now it comes with 2 tips (that fit) and the shaft is square so can’t slip. It’s also £20 see me at the show if you wanna see mine 👍🏻

@LockNoob

9 ай бұрын

I only got mine a few weeks back, but it’s hot and miss what you get when you order from these places. Nice if they have made improvements though

@GxAxV

9 ай бұрын

@@LockNoob some daft pair of spring washers under the arms 🤷🏻‍♂️ the arms are now longer and shaft square

Unusable out of the package unfortunately seems to be Haoshi Tools MO. I have two other types of picks from them and one didn't work and the other was rusted.

@LockNoob

9 ай бұрын

Ouch, not good!

It would be nice if Sparrows sold a set of different profiles tips for thier tool.

@LockNoob

9 ай бұрын

It would be nice to see a few variants for sure

Nicely explained. 👍

@LockNoob

9 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I mean... It's pretty.... Does the extnedable neck have index points to tighten against, or is it round? That's a critical design feature of the PTBBAIM.....

@DeadkingAZ

8 ай бұрын

EDIT: Nevermind. Helps if I watch the whole video... Not worth the money or the extra effort.

Why would they make a knockoff but price it the same as the original?

@LockNoob

9 ай бұрын

Apparently you can get them cheaper if you look?

Cây màu trắng mở được loại khoá 9 đĩa không thầy

Sparrows doesnt allow me to buy the sparrows disc detainer pick..it say im got the wrong adress.then i buy this one.i really want the sparrows anyway.can you give me advice how to buy the sparrows? Anyway im from Malaysia..please help

Frankly it looks like a typical bad Chinese knock-off of the Sparrows tool. The fact that they couldn’t beat the Sparrows price seems odd, or just demonstrates the work needed to make the item in general. At 1/2 or 1/3 of the price it might be worth it but not at or near the same price.

@LockNoob

9 ай бұрын

I hear you can maybe find it cheaper

I do like the Sparrows tool, BUT, when it does eventually get very hard to find, Then this one is an option. Most of the complicated manufacturing has already been done on it so all that is left is a bit of filing and Dremel work. That said, it is so obviously a direct rip off of the tool that BB and LPL worked on (It is closer to those than the Sparrows one) I feel the moral obligation to not buy one. Even as a spare.

@LockNoob

9 ай бұрын

Yeah I feel the same

pay more for a worse quality tool. No thanks.

@LockNoob

9 ай бұрын

You usually get what you pay for

@dm4800

9 ай бұрын

@@LockNoob exactly. That's why I don't buy cheap tools LOL. I love my Sparrow disc detainer. I don't use it very often but when I do it works like it is supposed to with no modifications