Thank you Darren. Good job again. Have a blessed and safe week to you and your family.

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Billy, glad you’re enjoying the videos! You too 👍

Thank you very much for spending the time to show us the limits of the Hantek scope. Very helpful.

Really like your videos and the way you explain things. I've been considering getting a"cheap" scope for a while now and to this video and others like it comparing the Hantek and Pico pretty much sold me on going with the 2204A. Thanks so much for taking the time to put this together..

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Happy I’ve help you make a great decision! How are you getting on with it? 👍

@jdmackable

3 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset Actually I haven't bought it just yet but definitely going to go the Pico route when I do. Thanks again for the great content in the videos..

Thanks for the videos. Please keep them coming.

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you're enjoying the channel! More to come

I enjoyed the video. A good analysis of the scope I'd say.

That was a great video, as usual. I actually have the 1008C. It was my 1st PC based scope and I have no idea why it has 8 channels. It's a great example of "you get what you pay for". I don't regret buying it, I understand what it is. I also have a Pico 2205A running the automotive software. What a difference. My goal is to actually get a 4 channel Pico like the 4425A but it's not in the budget right now. Keep up the good work, your videos are extremely helpful

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yeah, I think the 1008C is a great start, but you may out grow it quickly. I’m am happy with the small Pico, but agree; 4425 would be nice. We have a bout 20 of them at work! Glad you’re enjoying the channel, more to come! 👍

@xj31

3 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset 20??? So jealous!!! I'm still trying to get the shop to buy 1

thank you for the video, and the test of this oscilloscope

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching Stephane, hope you and the family are all good 👍

Another awesome video Darren, Thank you as ever, i had watched this several times before, and you've guessed it, i have a Hantek DSO 3064A (4 channel) scope, i bought the longer leads to facilitate my work on it, it's def not the best on the market,i guess the old saying is true; 'You only get what you pay for' but i have sort of managed to accommodate it's quirky nature somewhat, it appears to do most of what i need, so can't complain esp the price i paid for it, the accessories were quite cheap too (longer leads+Clamps etc, compared to the top end Pico which is several Grand ! i have found a way round the fast disappearing screen data when doing certain task's like relative compression,,,🤔,, i discovered a snow white kitten in my garden at home, apparently strayed a tad too far from it's home? after knocking on all the surrounding neighbours doors to no success,as no-one appeared to have lost a kitten, i have adopted it, after seeing your Cat (wednesday) i have named it 'Lonely' and am presently training it to sit in the car and wind over the engine whilst i'm on the computer under the bonnet 🙂 will update on my success with domesticating the rather nervous little moggy. 😾

HT6022BE with the HANTEK software is limited for automotive use. But it is HScope supported with full Automotive Mode buffer that holds minutes of data, not in pages either but a seamless stream! Add a 4x attenuator as I've designed and you have +/-20v input friendly for automotive work. All this for $50 scope and a $10 HScope licence. Not bad...

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers, I'm gonna check that HScope out - only heard of it before but never looked in to it. Your 4x attenuator sounds interesting, I take you have a video for this? I had bookmarked some of your videos this week to have a browse through now the weekend is here! Cheers

@theGADGETSplaylist

3 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset I do Darren, but was hesitant to post it (sometimes frowned on) kzread.info/dash/bejne/daN8k9VyiL28caw.html Take care, Denis

@tonyfremont

3 жыл бұрын

I bought HScope, and the automotive features, but it doesn't work right with my Android 10 phone and a Hantek bl scope.

@theGADGETSplaylist

3 жыл бұрын

@@tonyfremont Tony, look for us on the TELEGRAM HScope Group and I or someone else smarter than I will help you out...

@Automotive_Solutions

3 жыл бұрын

Another vote for Hscope. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. 👍

Thank you for the review. I need to step my game up with a scope. Looks like "buy once, cry once" is in my future.

@MechanicMindset

2 жыл бұрын

Haha! Yes, choose carefully. If you are serious, you could out grow a scope like the Hantek quite quickly. Check out Pico 2204a, my best budget option 👍

Under the set up menu is a record function that will record for very long periods of time , also when you wish to load a saved file it should be in the hantek folder unless you changed to a different folder. Also the hscope app for Android is excellent . I use both on a routine basis as a technician and I will say there is a learning curve but the more you use it the easier it gets , not a Pico or ats but with overlays and experience it is a very good option.

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Good to know, I will check it out. Theses things take time to pick up. It was the same with Pico. Yes, I will be looking at HScope for sure, only just been made aware of how flexible and powerful that software is. Thanks for the insights! 👍

@gabrielh5105

3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean? I haven't found that record function. Are you talking about the official software?

I do mechanic work for a living now. Well I've just recently gotten started, but I needed a cheap scope to get going, so I got the Hantek 1008c on Amazon with the CC65 clamp and some extra cables, an attenuator and a secondary ignition probe all for under 200 bucks. I will say, as long as you don't use more than 2 or 3 channels at a time, it actually works pretty well. I mean, you can for example get your crank, cam, and tdc sensor all on screen at once with nice detail. Now some waveforms such as ignition, well I wouldn't try to do more than primary and secondary at the same time. But overall, the scope is super helpful sometimes, I mean for what I payed for it, it has more than paid for itself. It's not gonna be as good as say a 4 channel Pico 4425, but that is also a 2000 dollar kit so...

@MechanicMindset

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! I just bought myself the 1008c too to give it a go. 12bit resolution which is great! Yes the same rate is low, I am going to do a video hanging signals on it to see how it goes - buckaroo style 😅 It’s a great place to start and it sounds like you are doing great! Cheers Darren

excellent review thanks..

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, glad you enjoyed the video!

My first scope was Hantek 1008C, it was a good scope to learn on. I’ve upgraded to a Pico recently and still learning all the functions it has to offer

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Cool, how did you get on loading it up with the full 8 channels? Got to love the Pico products; they’re great to use and have some nice features 👍

@steveburgandy2680

3 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset Running windows 7, so I didn’t have any issues. There are a few videos on KZread that walk you through loading the software and drivers on newer versions.

@steveburgandy2680

3 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset I’ve only used 4 channels at at time and it didn’t slow down or anything.

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

@@steveburgandy2680 Ah ok cool. I wouldn’t know what to do with all those channels 😂

Top stuff Darren. I'm with a few of the others and prefer the hscope app over the hantek software. I know you're in the TG group now, so I'm sure we will see another video from you soon 💪

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah got to give that a go. I had heard of it but never looked in to it. Looks great! Cheers

Fair review Darren. Long time base settings (as you mentioned) and utilizing the trigger single shot function are a couple of techniques for coping with tiny memory buffer. Cheers

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers. Yes I suppose you would just have to adapt to using this scope! I don't like how when on a long time base you miss the shot on pause. It almost like you'd have to hit pause before you start your test to capture it. Not too bad for the money I suppose (£35 back when I bought it!).

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

And I see what you mean, use the single shot with the long time base. I had to think abut that as I have been spoiled Pico products and German OEM Diagnostics scopes!

Thanks Darren for your video

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 👍

It's all about learning... thanks again

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome John! Glad you are learning from the channel. This is my intention!!

The CD is a frisbee! I like that!😊

Nice video, helped me get started with this gadget I had lying around for a couple of years. Did you try triggering in single mode while trying to capture the relative compression test?

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, I was the same, I bought this years ago! I must admit, single trigger mode is the correct way to capture the RC test results. i also found out that normal trigger is better to use than 'auto'. My problem was I am treating it like PicoScope software! enjoy!

Great video.

Just try Hantek 6074BE Scope. This is the main affordable Scope used in Brazil in the auto repair industry.

Good video mate. I have watched a few of your videos and i have enjoyed all of them. After watching your videos about the Pico 2204a i bought one. I was wanting a scope for ages and this little guy is awsome and the price is perfect. I agree the Picoscope software is far superior and think the 2204a is a better scope then this one. Also with me being mobile, the little 2204a fits inside my diag kit perfectly. Keep up the great videos buddy.

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you’re enjoying the channel! 2204A is an amazing little scope. Plus the software is pretty much the same as the Auto software; so many great features! Thanks for watching 👍

That's answered the question I asked you on another video!! :)

@ChupoCro

Жыл бұрын

Don't be so sure :-) My advice would be to check more comments on this video (or to check some other reviews of that oscilloscope).

Hey Darren, are you planning to upload a video of how to test the front O2 sensor of your fiesta? I mean how to check exhaust fumes just using pico? Thanks for your great work!!

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Javier! Unfortunately the Fiesta is gone now. I might do something in the future on O2 sensors. Cheers 👍

Do you notice a difference in processing speed when running off of the data/power USB plug only? Every other automotive scope I've used was junk on the data/power only but gold with both the data/power and power.

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, not noticed it myself, but came across an issue where a USB hub/extension cause big issues with scope signal. Like unrecognisable CAN signals! So yeah, USB can totally affect the signal 👍

Yes you can save wave forms, the trigger needs to be set to run not auto. But it took me weeks to get the hang of it. I have use mind for 10 year plus . I have soldered a long cable direct into the circuit board.

@MechanicMindset

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing John! I’ll have a play 👍

Great videos. I have this scope and the software is terrible, however, the h scope app on Android is excellent. Minutes of buffering, overlays, unlimited cursors, math channel, 4 channels, touvh screen scale changes on the fly. Very impressive. Check out the demo. I was working on getting my boss to get us a 5 channel Pico for the shop, but I've been running this setup for a couple months with no issues. Ultimate budget setup really. Your videos have been really nice, to see others using the more budget oriented diag tools.

@MechanicMindset

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome! Agreed, the Hantek software is t great. I know of HScope, are you in the Telegram group? I bought a cheap tablet earlier in the year but sent it back and never got round to getting another. What tablet are you using? It does look like a great bit of software, and so accessible you can just message the owner of it - Martin. Cheers for the nudge, will try and get back on it!

@matth9359

2 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset no problem! I recently replaced my laptop with a galaxy s6 lite. Great little set up really. I have the 8 channel too. Low sample rate but 12bit vertical resolution.

@michaelcruddas623

2 жыл бұрын

@@matth9359 quick question, are you running the scope with a tablet as the display? If so I would love to know how to set that up!

@matth9359

2 жыл бұрын

@@michaelcruddas623 for the whole software interface really. Just using the hantek as the hardware. It's impressive stuff. It's an app called Hscope

How do you find the cleanliness when measuring DC i.e battery voltage? One channel on mine is clean but the other on the same source has almost 1V of noise

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, it sounds like this might be a problem with the oscilloscope

i have the Hantek 1008a, the probes that come with arent ideal for automotive, will you please make a video video on how to make leads?

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Keep an eye on the channel, I'm going to make this video next! Cheers

In your links you have the pin type back probes. Where can I get these half moon flexible back probe clamps for car connectors? Cant find them anywhere.

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry, I can’t think what you are describing

@gplusgplus2286

3 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset they are called spoon type back probes, the ones that go around the weatherseal in automotive connectors. Diagnose dan uses them but he hasnt replied :p

Darren I have this hantek, i going to buy hscope softwere but how to connect usb to some android usb c?

@MechanicMindset

Жыл бұрын

Sounds good. You need a usb-b to usb-c cable 👍

hi sir! i ve juste buy this 6022Be but i think it's not possible to used an accessory CC-65 or CC650 clamp or attenuator 20:1 ? it's not for automotive ?

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Hello, these accessories will work with the 6022be; I have them too. As long as the connector is BNC type.

The Diffrence is so obvious with Picoscope, Howver, would be great if you can do a review to the Hantek 6074 Scope, Thanks Darren.

@MechanicMindset

2 жыл бұрын

Sample rate looks impressive. However, still only 8 bit vertical like the 2204a, and I am not a great fan of the Hantek software 😬. The software is one of the biggest wins for PicoScope, so powerful!

Im using this Hantek for few years now.The scope is not bad its the softweare thats not good.....at all.You have to go for Hscope softweare on google play.Its for android and runs with no problems.Scope is usable with Hscope.

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome, yes I have recently discovered that this software works with the Hantek! Going to get a tablet and give it a go. Looks like it has some great features! Thanks for watching 👍

Thanks for share, Im thinking to buy Pico , but is 2channel 10MHZ enough for basic automotive diagnosis?

@MechanicMindset

2 жыл бұрын

The frequency is fine. The sample rate is good. 8bit resolution is the main limitation, but there are ways around. You can see me use the scope I’m lots of tests on the channel 👍

Hey Darren! My name is Paul, I am engaged in the repair of Volvo trucks. My question is, is it possible to check the synchronization of the crankshaft and camshaft sensors with this oscilloscope. Or do I need to purchase a specialized motor tester for this test. I will be grateful for the answer.

@MechanicMindset

2 жыл бұрын

Hi Paul, yes you will be able to look at cam/crank waveforms. The analysis capability of the software is where you might struggle. It would be better to get something with rotational/degree rulers incase your reference waveform was taken at a slightly different engine speed. I would recommend PicoScope 2204A; the software is very powerful! I have lots of videos using it in my channel 👍. Look for the slack timing chain video 👌

Can you make a video for setup hantek 6022BE with hscope android app which we can use as an automotive oscilloscope ?

@MechanicMindset

6 ай бұрын

I have it but need to play with it more myself yet 👍 there is a great Telegram group to join for HScope

Can you please do a Hantek review video again BUT using the Hscope app? The Hantek software is absolutely hideous but the scopes are definitely usable I think. If you haven't heard of Hscope it's a fantastic android app made by Martin Loren for using hantec and other budget scopes, including diy scopes. There's a separate Automotive package on it too with new features being added constantly like cylinder overlay, pwm etc. It's really intuitive to use, just pinch and zoom basically. Can be used on any android phone or tablet. I'd love to see how you get on with using it, especially after just proving all the shortfalls of the original software. 🤞🏻🤞🏻

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

OK for sure! I had heard of HScope, but never looked in to it, and wasn't aware you could use it with this scope. I have been spoiled with PicoScope and manufacturer integrated oscilloscopes my whole career haha! I'm gonna check it out and see how I get on. But yes, this Hantek software isn't the greatest.... Thanks for the comment

@bernardhannigan8987

3 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset Really looking forward to that video now. 😊👍🏻

@matth9359

2 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset I'm interested in that video too. I have a 1008c and uscope, but you have me looking at the mini pico. I just discovered the hscope too, and also have the similar owon 2 channel in mind. Love the videos.

Hi Darren, did you consider attempting the single trigger function for your rc test. It shout start the capture when the voltage passes the trigger threshold and then hold that capture when it runs to the end of the screen

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

At the time, no 😂. My brain was still in Pico mode where I can just scroll back through. But yes, I know what you mean - I should probably follow up to give the scope a fair chance! 👍

@stephenmarshall5302

3 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset even with pico I use the single trigger. I do a dummy run to make sure my clamp is in correct polarity and all that jazz. I use the 1008c as well. I actually quite like it for secondary if ignition but anything I need to read voltage levels etc I use pico

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

@@stephenmarshall5302 Yeah, usually use it for capturing MAP sensors while revving the engine. Had a look at the captures people are getting with the 1008c, I think the sample rate is pretty poor (for CAN etc), how do you get on loading it up with all 8 channels?

Hei. You do a good job and I follow you. I want to buy an oscilloscope and I was thinking about PICOSCOPE 2405A. What do you think about this oscilloscope? I want to diagnose and repair car myself.

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Hi! The PicoScope 2204A would be my top choice for anyone starting with oscilloscopes 👍. Great to have you on the channel, thanks!

My scope get disconnected from computer I always have to pug it out and in, if you know what the ptoblem is please let me know I could not find the ptoblem I think this scope is not good.

@MechanicMindset

2 жыл бұрын

I have not experienced the same. Have you tried in another laptop?

Hi, just a Q for you. Will a Hantek current clamp work with the Picoscope 2204A?

@MechanicMindset

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, yes it will! I have a few videos using it (one about injectors and a review of the CC650)

Trigger mode auto is not your friend, try single, or even norm and you should be able to capture the cranking. Trigger on rising edge. Auto triggering will trigger even without a signal present, which might explain the waveform jumping around. I think the Hantek tries to capture as many samples as it can, that fit on one screen. That keeps you from zooming out, since the data just isn't there, but you can zoom in. There's some other open source software available for the Hantek that you might want to try. I tried using Sigrok Pulseview and it's okay, but tailored more to digital data capture devices. It will let you convert an analog capture from a scope into a digital signal pretty well. That's when it really shines, all the serial decoders are awesome. I haven't tried the open Hantek software yet.

@tonyfremont

3 жыл бұрын

DC only coupling is a pain too. For the price it isn't terrible. Pico gets pretty greedy on price when you go from two to four channel models. I don't like that Pico won't let you use the automotive feature software unless you buy an "automotive" scope.

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

No hack for Pico Diag software though

@tonyfremont

3 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset allegedly there is some kind of hack to get their automotive application working with their cheaper scopes, but it looked like something pico would probably address pretty quick.

Thanks

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching 👍

They don't have a recording function? I am considering a 70 mhs 4 channel rigol scope. DSO

@MechanicMindset

Жыл бұрын

I need to play with this scope more; It’s not obvious it has a recording feature

Great video, but Instead of Hantek 6022be I would have gone with Owon VDS1022i, which is roughly in the same price range but considered a better built option out of the two by people who know what they're talking about. Plus Owon software suit has been modified by enthusiasts, has all the glitches ironed out, several features added, etc.

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the suggestion. I will look in to that, I’ve not considered them before. What price would you expect to pay for one?

@bentait2462

3 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset There are two sub-models: the "regular" 1022 and a 1022i, latter being USB isolated. The regular one costs about $70 and an "i" version around $100. The "i" version price is a bit higher than it would normally be because recent demand on those is clearly higher than supply. I suspect that slowly but surely increasing popularity is the cause.

Is it possible to Check PWM Signal 12V with this hantek? I dont Unterstand this 5V Max. Input.

@MechanicMindset

Жыл бұрын

You can for sure. I think maximum input is 30 or 35V on this. If it’s a higher voltage, you just need the attenuator

@zuxioa3278

Жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset thank you Sir

Hi, does this oscilloscope only store the data signal on the screen or does it store all the samples from the beginning

@MechanicMindset

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, think it only stores one buffer. But you can zoom out and move around a bit depending what time setting you use. It’s not like Pico where you have multiple pages and I can’t work out how to save the waveform.

@mu8502

2 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset ok thanks

HI! How do you get the scale to show on the software? thank you

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, which scale is that you ask about?

@elipsonj

3 жыл бұрын

the voltage and time scale with the numbers@@MechanicMindset

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

@@elipsonj Sorry, I don’t know 😂. It was already set up like that for default. They automatically displayed when I used the cursor functions

nice video mate .. i have hantek but i don't know why i don't use it that much . i am using Pico ....

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers! Probably because the software isn’t great! Check out HScope, this is my next purchase. It’s cheap, runs on android and they have automotive add on. See The Gibby channel and The Gadget Playlist channel 👍

@alrifainidal

3 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset i am exciting to see the video . keep the good work Mate

why do you need to use 20:1 Attenuator? 10x divider in probe wouldn't work ?

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, yeah the x10 probe would work. I am using the automotive leads and they don’t have the x10 switch. Also you can’t attach 4mm probes and clips to the x10 probes 👍

tenta colocar o gatilho em normal e por entre os dois sinais!

Hello.. any review on hantek 6245be

@MechanicMindset

2 жыл бұрын

No sorry, I have just bought the 1008c to try though, but the sample rate is lower than the 6022be

With the shortages of new pico 4425's just now what is the best spec Pico that does automotive below the 4425?

@MechanicMindset

2 жыл бұрын

I think if you want it as a stop gap, go for the 2405A, 4 channels, decent sample rate, only downside is 8bit resolution. You will have no trouble selling it I. Should you need to (to me! 😁)

@robbocop33r12

2 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset Thanks for the reply,typical of my luck that i pay for your pico class,i've got the cash sitting for a 4425 'then' i can't get one anywhere! ;-) It would just be a stop gap.

@MechanicMindset

2 жыл бұрын

@@robbocop33r12 Great to have you in the programme! Hope you’re enjoying the lessons. Just set up a live session for Sunday 👍

can hantek work with pressure transducer？

@MechanicMindset

Жыл бұрын

Yes 👍

So which version of windows are you using?

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, I’m on Windows 10

You should set the trigger for single and not auto and then you be able to see your waveforms.

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Yes for sure, I completely forgot about using the single trigger for the RC test; so used to Pico! I understand the Auto trigger doesn’t work so well either, better to use the Repeat function. I will do a follow up on this to give the Hantek a chance, it is good value to be fair!

Pico Fan Boy, you need to compare PICO to 6074BE while keeping price in perspective. No just kidding, Happy new year, Cheers!

@MechanicMindset

6 ай бұрын

😅🤣 I’ve not tried it to be honest. Had a few requests. Will have to get one! Memory spec any good??

@tech29X

6 ай бұрын

@@MechanicMindset As for memory spec, 64K waveforms, and I think on Pico it's 10K waveform memory buffer. Pound for pound (pound being $$$) it's punching above it's class. Like any tool, it requires some practice to develop muscle memory. Anyhow love the vids and best of luck in the new year.

hi, great video, why don't I have a price and an option to buy the Attenuator on your link? Thanks

@MechanicMindset

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Pavel. That will be Amazon, maybe it’s not available. Just search 20:1 Hantek Attenuator on google and you should find one 👍. I’ll double check my links too. Thanks for raising

@pavel7311

Жыл бұрын

and can I ask one more question? I will use the attenuator if the measured voltage exceeds the capabilities of the oscilloscope, am I right?

@MechanicMindset

Жыл бұрын

@@pavel7311 that’s right 👍. Basically all injectors and ignition coils (anything with solenoid). Maybe some others too

@pavel7311

Жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset thank you, especially for your willingness and speed, I have ordered 6022BE👍

@pavel7311

Жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset hello friend, you are my mentor, which oscilloscope should I buy better, 6022BE or 6022BL, I don't know which one is better, I'm an amateur and I'm learning, thank you

i want a 4 channel scope but very limited budget. i have a snapon vantage ledgend which has a 2 channel scope and i have the small 1 channel scope that AES wave sells i am looking at this Hantek here is the amazon link Hantek Digital Oscilloscope 4CH 70MHZ Automotive Diagnostic Equipment Ignition Action/The Sensor/Bus Diagnosis/Performer/Startup would you be so kind to let me know what you think thanks

@MechanicMindset

Жыл бұрын

Hi, I can’t see the link, but Hantek scopes are a good spec. I prefer the Pico software, but there are other options for Hantek like HScope android app and Open Hantek software 👍

@DependableAutoTruck

Жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset it's the hantek 7064be automotive kit

@MechanicMindset

Жыл бұрын

@@DependableAutoTruck Good scope by all accounts. Not tried it myself

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@timtec3000

3 жыл бұрын

I got one for a bit of self tuition, we use a IMIB at work ( I'm a BMW tech) which is good but don't use often enough, normally I use it for Lin Bus.

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

@@timtec3000 It’s great for starting out. I saw IMIB in action the other day. I didn’t see a time setting on it, just presets (ie LIN). I did my apprenticeship at BMW, there 10 years! Used to use DIS, the scope on that was pretty good 👍

@AMGTOM

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't across all your awesome videos, but I would like to know if already did reviews and test about Micsig scopes. All the best Darren.

@MechanicMindset

2 жыл бұрын

@@AMGTOM Sorry, I don’t have MicSig. Check out Super Marios Diagnostics, he knows his stuff and has some videos with this scope 👍

The early 6022BE Hantek isn't really a very good scope compared to the pico. I have the Hantek 6074BE automotive scope (which is identical in hardware to the 6022BE) running the latest version software. I found that once I updated to the latest software, the scope was a better performer. I used to get alot of crashes with the old software. Not with the updated version though. The 6074BE has 250mhz. And a sample rate of 1GS/s. For a cheap scope it's not too bad and it does the job. But its still not up to scratch compared to the feature/option levels of the pico. On my 6074BE scope I can do a RC test using the single trigger sweep option and I can get a very clear capture of the waveform. and it remains locked on the screen so I can take my time to walk around and dissect the capture

@MechanicMindset

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing! The 6074BE seems a fair price for a 4 channel scope with decent specs. This scope was $35 when I bought it new; to be fair, it performs well for the price! Yes, I forgot about single trigger in this video, my mistake! 👍

Using Linux you can use open alternatives that fix the software shortcomings

@MechanicMindset

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I struggled to get Open Hantek working with windows 10. I have now got an Android Tablet with HScope installed. Can’t wait to give that a go 👍 thanks

Hantek 6022be or 1008c, which is better?

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

I have heard that when the 1008c has more than 2 channels connected it starts to struggle. Either is a good start but I would recommend the PicoScope 2204a as a good start 👍

@carlosvallejo4326

3 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset ok I think so but picoscope is very expensive...

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

@@carlosvallejo4326 Ok, what I can see is the 6022be has better spec. There is also an Android based app which is automotive specific called HScope 👍

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Try it with OpenHantek6022 software.

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Ah ok, will give it a go. Have you tried HScope? Cheers

@magical40oz

3 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset I have the Hantek 1008 with HScope. HScope is nice but only works with two channels. I have a Pico 2204 on order also. Keep up the great videos!

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

@@magical40oz Interesting to know! Great news, love the 2204A! Cheers 👍

You should have a skateboard mindset :)

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, what do you know about me?! I have actually been skateboarding since I was 12 😃

@Helikopterpop

3 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset i saw your tattoo on your forearm and also the volcom cap :) I have been riding since at least 92 and still do :) Im looking out for a handheld scopemeter for doing some car amp audio, but also for growing with for other car stuff. The mustool caught my attention like mds8207, it good pretty decent reviews for that price. Do you allow me to buy one, or should I look at some other scope? Cheers fellow skatedude :)

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

@@Helikopterpop Haha, that’s the giveaway. I started in 96 (when Thrill of it all came out). Still skate too, mostly vert now, but only been once this year 👊 I’ll be honest, I’ve not played with hand helds much, or audio analysis. I’ve done a little bit of diagnosis with fixed tones, but not in anger. I know your after the hand held but the Pico had a spectrum analyser too which I would imagine would be useful for audio?

@Helikopterpop

3 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset thrill of it all, welcome to hell, misled youth etc, nothing still to this day can compete with the feeling of watching those vids when they came out. But plan b second hand smoke and questionable video must be the favourites. All the tricks in the opening in splitscreen was better than any porn. Haha Okay well I hoped to avoid dragging around on a laptop to. I could get a real oscilloscope though maybe. But a handheld would be sweet. Do you actually solve lots of problems by hooking up the pico and test from the terminals? How much use would one have of owning a pico for instance? I have a pretty sweer autel computer type obd2 reader that can get pretty much information of the different sensors.

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

@@Helikopterpop 😂 Nope. Don’t forget 411VM! Yeah, the scope is a really powerful tool for diagnostics. In particular, identifying mechanical issues on engines, ignition systems, CAN bus, battery drains. The list goes on. Only hand helds I’ve heard people use are the fluke and Hantek models

If you switch to single mode instead of auto, you won't have to jump in and out of the car. It will stay visible on screen.

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Cheers, yes, I completely forgot about that at the time. Spoilt with PicoScope and the buffer memory 😂. Also the Auto trigger isn’t the greatest; best to use Normal 👍

I know it's an old video but the curved bit on the square wave might just be to do with the probe lead that needs adjusting. Cheap probes don't have them but a decent probe will have a trimmer that alters the capacitance. This squares off the signal and is frequency dependent. Trying to trigger a constantly changing data stream on CAN bus just ain't gonna work. To get a constant display on the screen it's a repetitive signal you need to be monitoring. Learn how they work.

@MechanicMindset

11 ай бұрын

Could be, the leads I used here don’t have compensation. Most automotive leads don’t as we’re not really dealing with high frequency very often. Which waveform are you referring to?

@timmehlittleloud2251

11 ай бұрын

@@MechanicMindset The CAN waveform you were trying to get a trigger on. The signal was dancing about the screen. That's what it will do. It obviously depends what you are looking at a CAN bus waveform for. 99% of the time it's to see if it's distorted. If a specific ID or packet that needs to be viewed then a logic analyser is better than a scope. The PICO is far better than the Hantek but it is a tad more expensive. The Hantek is usable for auto but does have limitations especially when trying to do CAM / crank on something like a modern transit with the CKP signal being Hall effect and very narrow compared to the wider CAM signal. Like you said, very highly sample rate (and internal memory) are the things.

you need usan bolt to trigger that lol

@MechanicMindset

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, I should have used the single trigger for the compression test. I have also found out that the Auto trigger doesn’t work as expected either

I can only save as Bmp file save as Photo. in stop mode you can scroll sideways easy but not like a pico

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, the Hantek software is certainly something I’d have to get used to. I think my trigger issues come from using Auto trigger too. I might look at some of the other software options for this scope. Cheers!

Hi sir how are you i hop you good i am form india & i am auto electrion scanning all Indian cars i need the hantek scope can you bay send me india here not available india if avilabe expensive i pay you can you send me to india

@MechanicMindset

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, I’m good thanks. Check on Ali Express, it might be easier to get directly from China. That’s what I would do.

So you’re comparing an older(years) Hantek Scope to a newer Pico Scope... Hmmmmm.

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, not a direct comparison. Just showing the difference of what you can get for your money. I think the sample rate specs are what make the bigger difference. And the Hantek software; which it seems they are still pushing with their later versions? A lot of people on a budget are still considering a decision between both of these scopes. What are your thoughts on both? 👍

Hantek is not good . It does not have a drift display mode. Picoteck is well done

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Get what you pay for 😉👍

It’s no good now that it hit the floor lol

@MechanicMindset

Жыл бұрын

😆 she lives

I can't afford a Picco

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

If you can stretch for a 2204A, it’s definitely worth it. But you can see the Hantek will get waveforms. I need to follow up this video as there are some issues that I need to fix due to me; user error!

@Markart50

3 жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset I start a new job soon covid has held things up cheers for the info.

Bring the laptop into the car.

@MechanicMindset

Жыл бұрын

Should’ve used single trigger

No offense but you really should have learnt to use that oscilloscope before accusing it of not being up to the task. I don't have it but before this "review" I watched another review of the very same oscilloscope and from what I saw not even one single "flaw" you encountered is existing. Moreover, you didn't mention several other softwares that could be used with that oscilloscope. BTW, that CAN signal woudn't be a problem even to $20 DSO150. And if you want the signals to be perfect you can just turn the compensation knob on the probe using a tool that came with the oscilloscope :-)

@MechanicMindset

Жыл бұрын

I did admit I am probably using the trigger wrong. Apparently it doesn’t work so well on Auto Trigger mode. The sample rate really isn’t great, and the compensation won’t correct the triangle effect on the CAN, it might be more square in a lower time base as the samples are used more effectively. The stock software isn’t great in my opinion; Open Hantek is an option but have tried to get this working with windows 10 with no avail! I did just buy a license for HScope, so will post a video of that soon, with both my 6022be and 1008c. This is all my opinion, and the truth is I bought this scope years ago (way before MM). I had a go with it, was a bit underwhelmed with the UI so it stayed in the box. The cheap Pico is really worth the extra; performance and software wise. But for the money, this does do the job with a little extra patience and compromise. Keep an eye for my HScope video 😁

@ChupoCro

Жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset It's not only using wrong trigger mode. You are using wrong time div scale, wrong trigger level, wrong probe multiplier, wrong buffer view etc. The oscilloscope is triggering on the signal which is far on the left outside of the view you are looking at, that's why the signal is jumping around even if the auto trigger worked. You are looking far away from the place in the buffer where there was the trigger point. The pulses you are examining are far away from the pulses that activated the trigger. For example, if there are many pulses and you trigger at pulse number 1 and then scroll at the pulse number 100 (which is what you are doing) then, of course, the position of the pulse number 100 would jump around because the duration of all the pulses before is changing. There is a mark in the x axis where you have to watch the triggered signal. You are saving the vaweform as .txt file and then you are trying to open it as .rfc file - how could that work? As I said, 150 kHz bandwidth $20 DSO150 is enough for troubleshooting high speed CAN BUS if you know what you are doing. This oscilloscope is overkill for what you've been using it for and it has more than enough bandwidth (sample rate) for the signals you are capturing. Square pulse has infinite bandwidth and both 10 MHz and 100 MHz oscilloscope would show the square wave as a triangle (expecially when using the wrong time div) but that isn't important. You must know how the square wave looks like if the cutoff frequency is 100 MHz or 20 MHz or 200 kHz or 100 kHz. For example 100 megasamples means the oscilloscope could capture SINE wave signal up to almost 50 MHz but every square wave pulse has INFINITE bandwidth - you would have to capture the sine waves up to hunreds of MHz to see the square wave signal as peftect pulses. BTW, switch the probe to x10 to get less distortion because x1 has more capacitance. And you can use the compensation capacitance knob on the probe while capturing the CAN signal, you are not limited in using the test signal only when compensating the probe. I don't have that oscilloscope but I was not only checking the high speed CAN signal by using just DSO150 which is a toy, I was decoding the traffic using it :-) If you are complaining when using 1000 times better 6022 for the tasks you did in the video then you are doing it wrong.

@ChupoCro

Жыл бұрын

@@MechanicMindset And there is one more very important thing - you don't want to set the time div scale to capture many pulses and to THEN freeze the buffer (pause the picture) and to change the time scale only then - after capturing. In that case it is to be expected to get very distorted waveform because there aren't many sample points during the one signal period. That way you fill the buffer with samples and then you are using only 10% or 5% of the sampled values to analyse the waveform. You want to FIRST set the time div scale to use the full buffer for capturing the pulse (or a few pulses) of interest only and then there will be many sample points inside one captured pulse and the waveform will look much better if not perfect.

@deanslevin

2 ай бұрын

hi.. did you have YT channel for me to improvise my oscilloscope understanding?

kzread.info/dash/bejne/hXurua6foqfPcco.html Hi mate watch this link he shows how to do a relative compression test with hantek , bit of a ball ache , I have 1008c and I'm slowly getting there, the automotive software isn't too bad , thanks Rob mobile man

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

haha, looks like he had more patience than me! Another way to do it (as Gibby mentioned), use a single shot trigger and it should automatically stop the scope when the trigger threshold is reached - need to have a play. I am also going to look at getting HScope, that seems to be the way to go with this 6022be. Keep it up with the scope, it will all come together the more you play with it. Thanks for watching!

No mechanic I ever met was smart enough to use an oscilloscope

@MechanicMindset

2 жыл бұрын

Haha, welcome to Mechanic Mindset where the smart mechanics hang out 😂

@user-yf1fe7ei7n

11 ай бұрын

You need to meet more mechanics lol

@Loveitdownunder

7 ай бұрын

Your probably the guy who fcks his car on Sunday and calls a mechanic on Monday

@omaromar-vf6rr

7 ай бұрын

do you have whatsup ? i need you to teache me about it i have one to check sensor car thanks ​@@MechanicMindset

@henryt3441

6 ай бұрын

​@user-yf1fe7ei7n Technician!! Not mechanic, anyone can call themselves mechanic. In 10-15 years we will be electrical engineers....

Trigger system not good

@MechanicMindset

Жыл бұрын

No, I need to play with it more to understand it better 👍

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Or get someone with a long pair of hands.

@MechanicMindset

2 жыл бұрын

😂 There’s a feature I completely forgot about called ‘single trigger’. This would capture it easy. Brain fart on my part haha

You buy something basic (DIY) quality and expect it to be of dealership professional quality, same line driving a VW beetle and you expect it to drive like a Golf 8 GTI. From the beginning your attitude towards the Hantek was negative.

@MechanicMindset

2 жыл бұрын

For £35 I wasn’t expecting great things from this oscilloscope. But it did everything we asked of it right? The software is what lets it down. As far as basic ‘DIY’ tools go, spend a little more for a PicoScope 2204A and you have a very powerful tool for the money!

Just go Pico.... A cheap Pico beats any Hantek.

I purchased a 6022BE product. Then I feel like a waste of money. It does not meet the standards of a technical device . Hardware . It is only capable of receiving + - 5Vdd . Signals larger than +- 5 Vdd will have amplitude distortion. Amplitude distortion is displayed on the screen. It does not achieve +-20V visibility like grid cell. Software . It's the dumbest show in the world. It has no drift mode. Like hospital electrocardiogram machines. When I want to research a long event . For example I set the timebas to 1000 seconds. Hanteck runs in the background and doesn't show anything. Until the scale is 1000 seconds, it will show up on the screen. For 1000 seconds, I couldn't see anything and went to wait for coffee. If the numbers reach explosive danger, then I don't know either. Because Hantek shows nothing on the screen. Hanteck should only install microphones for babies alo hello!

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Haha, I agree with the long time base problem. Have you tried an alternative software? I think for the purpose of automotive diagnostics, it’s ok. But Pico is my preferred scope. For such a cheap price, I am not sure what we should expect? 👍

I dont think this is a fair test, you are complaining of the resolution on the compression test but it doesnt look like you calibrated the scope before you started, and you are complaining it refreshes too fast but you arent using the single window capture feature. Everything is a piece of shit until you know how to use it

@MechanicMindset

3 жыл бұрын

Hi, for sure, there are some features I didn’t take advantage of here which I will revisit. I think I will even look at alternative software. But please don’t mistake my observations for complaining 👍