Hans Niemann vs Magnus Carlsen GAME 1 | FTX Crypto Cup | DAY 2
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16 August 2022 Round 2 FTX Crypto Cup | Meltwater Champions Chess Tour
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So funny how the commentary completely switches sides once Hans has gotten for himself a masterly position. Awesome game Hans!
ONE OF THE GREATEST WALKOUT MOMENTS OF ALL TIME
I think magnus just played Bad. He never attacked he doesn’t seem overly computerish I think he just got under his skin
I in no way have an adversity to online chess but in my opinion chess is a classy game and if you're going to sit in front of each other it should be over the board.
lol...playing chess on computer while in the same room....dude get a chess set
@Ariel1Dominguez
Жыл бұрын
Plandemic bullshit
@TheDavedevil619
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@michaelteague2512
Жыл бұрын
Bruh lmao
@SamuelJ888
Жыл бұрын
Helps to not have to hit the timer
@chadprinceton8486
Жыл бұрын
@@SamuelJ888 but theres a possibility of misclicking
Hans has worked his ass off to come to this position
@safe4547
Жыл бұрын
yyyyyyup
@Aguafy
5 ай бұрын
He will be the goat
@abdallahme01
4 ай бұрын
😂
I don't think Hans has cheated in this game, it is understandable that Magnus tried to attack too early and lost some position advantage and Hans positioned his bishop pair really well.
@Spiderfv1
7 ай бұрын
I don't think he has ever cheated in irl tournuments
@palbi
6 ай бұрын
Thank you! He definitely hasn't and he was awfully maligned by Magnus and the whole chess community for his actions as a minor.@@Spiderfv1
Chess was quiet...until this game.
The beads worked to perfection. Beadman is the future of chess.
@smikkelbeer7890
Жыл бұрын
His beaks just get more sensitive over time, thus improving his game.
@morecowbell2611
Жыл бұрын
Notice how he never sits back comfortably. He's always leaning forward.
@mrco1009
Жыл бұрын
@@morecowbell2611 You wouldn't want to see me playing a game then for the positions I can hold on that chair
@toroddlnning6806
Жыл бұрын
kzread.info/dash/bejne/mYGgxNtqiJyep7g.html
@toroddlnning6806
Жыл бұрын
just listen to the commentators
Magnus Carlsen vs Jack Harlow
@banano2210
Жыл бұрын
deadass couldn't unsee it the whole match
@TheDavedevil619
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣
@ES-os7ko
Жыл бұрын
@@banano2210 D E A D A S S
Hans played all of the moves suggested by the commentators. No assembly required.
@alucard4974
Жыл бұрын
it looks more like great preparation against Magnus than cheating to me, try to think for yourselves, Magnus is best chess player, but it does not mean he's wrong sometimes (specially that it was so painful lose)
@abelin5568
7 ай бұрын
This is an excellent point. Hans played the same moves the commentators considered. I guess the commentators should be investigated for assisting in the destruction of carlsen.
@robertandil5950
6 ай бұрын
you know that commentators are using engines to see the best moves? LOL@@abelin5568
@7.3powerstrokin
6 ай бұрын
😂 so true @@abelin5568
anyone know the song they play in the background at the beginning of the video
Its amazing the commentator keep talking and never did the dead air
i think because of this interview hans niemann gets so much hate
Did you check underneath the hair near his left ear?
To be fair, the interviewer asked Hans to summarize the story, and Hans did just that.
Niemann does that “stretch” every game it’s seems like
@ronaldcredo2689
Жыл бұрын
Maybe to send signal to his accomplice who was watching the live broadcast. Ang how Hans could possibly get the move would be their masterpiece. Anti-chess cheat must analyse it.
@lungzs
Жыл бұрын
you watch too many movies
@mouwersor
Жыл бұрын
@@lungzs "weird things only happen in movies"
@tengu8560
Жыл бұрын
You watch too much tv not to mention you are weirdo and wrong for saying the stretch thing, go outside and touch some grass
@howardlam6181
Жыл бұрын
@@ronaldcredo2689 There is a broadcast delay
Hans is making it i can see it im locking it in in the next 2 years he will be the world chess champion even tho im going to cheer for dubov😅
I guess this is the last FTX Cup ever played 😂😂😂
Hans..."Magnus, say hello to my little friend(stockfischer)!!
Watch the last part of the game on 1.75x speed. He’s using his hand on face to cycle through different pieces. Once the piece is determined thru a buzz, he then cycles through possible squares to move to until another buzz. He’s wearing a receiver somewhere possibly radio. No transmitter. Someone is watching his hand signals and sending transmission when match occurs. There may be a third person on a computer relaying the engine move to the second person. There would be a reset cycle motion if they mess up or there is confusion in the communication. It would be more dramatic than the hand on mouth signals.
@hopbup7401
Жыл бұрын
Look up Las Vegas cheating. There’s usually multiple people involved with different roles. Since there is millions of dollars at stake, this is easily a couple to few people operation.
@OrtegaSauce
Жыл бұрын
Bruh take this info to the FBI you've found it all out
@jeffxdd4351
Жыл бұрын
average /r/gangstalking user
@GeneralBlorp
Жыл бұрын
Source: TRUST ME BRO 😢😂
@fabianrodriguez1251
Жыл бұрын
🤓🤓🤓🤓Watch the last part of the game... 🤓🤓🤓🤓
Awesome game! The chess speaks for itself!
Hans is the SBF of chess
This was an AMATEUR game by Magnus, period. It wasn't really that Hans played soo good, it was that Magnus played soo poorly. He trapped his queen behind his pawns, did some stupid trades, and was too worried about the connected rooks to see that he just wasn't in the proper position to defend. That coupled with his repetitive poor knight movement, was just embarrassing. If you ever see someone having to put knight back on the starting squares, they're losing because they made bad moves and didn't press forward when they should have. Magnus had tons of opportunities to break things up, but he didn't want to get into unknown territory, so he ended up just getting frozen in place.
@thewitchking2556
Жыл бұрын
The thing is the computer always thought him moving the knight back was the most optimal move…
@eb3632
Жыл бұрын
hans is just a cheat
@-Legacy
6 ай бұрын
He knew something was up so why try
@peoplez129
6 ай бұрын
@@-Legacy Yeah that must be why Magnus settled the lawsuit and paid out an undisclosed amount, right?
why are they on computers
Chess Speaks for Itself
The connection of the black pieces was inhuman...for a reason.
@YehNahYehAyy
Жыл бұрын
Diiick Ridaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
15:51 This aged... Interestingly Also: 34:17
@RedLtdGuitar
Жыл бұрын
😂
@Max_Jacob
Жыл бұрын
Also: 0:28 you can faintly see a red dot on the woman's head
@howardlam6181
Жыл бұрын
He didn't beat magnus in this tournament actually. It's first to 4. He lost the other games
They are face to face in the same room, right? Why not use a real chess board ?
its amazing how we've evolved into playing lan chess tournmanets
Is that Sam Bankman-Fried playing Carlson?
"Chess speaks for itself." - Hans Niemann Notice that Hans clearly doesn't use "The" there. It's "Chess", not "The chess". He's not referring to the game he just played, but the general nature of chess and the principle that "I don't need to tell you a story [of how big of an achievement this is and how much it means to me]. You've just watched it."
@earlygrayy
Жыл бұрын
English is the hottest language right after Latin 🥵🥵🥵
that watch wasn't on during metal/wave scanning and it looks to be only ticking time at certain times during the match, hard to see but you can see it only move some times.
And now ftx is down
Why don't they use a chess board?
@potatowitheyes8255
Жыл бұрын
They are promoting a chess website
Why does hans look around so much ?
Does Hans look like Kenny Powers in that thumbnail?
you can see him trying to read the beads code bro
2mins its a Dune thing, the player is saying he's in Mentat Mode, aka he using a computer ... hmmmm
Quick glances at the surroundings here and there, as if he breaks out of something, comes across not as focused but rather as distracted and nervous. Avoids the interviewer, just wants to get away at the end, displays not even a sliver of triumph, seems completely unmoved by his success.
@oefischermusic
Жыл бұрын
wrist watch !!!
@davenoscope3836
Жыл бұрын
It was not a really big "success" when he already had downed 0-3 the day before.
He’s using his hand on face to cycle through different pieces. Once the piece is determined thru a buzz, he then cycles through possible squares to move to until another buzz. How does he know which piece is determined through buzzes. Well I have a theory. He uses his watch to get a buzz. Each time he gets a buzz through his watch it is a yes or no signal. Now as we know in bit theory, three yes/no signals specify 2^3 = 8 possible choices. And guess what, there are 8 pieces on the board, and that is how he knows which piece to move. Let 1 = buzz from his watch and 0 = no buzz from his watch So for eg. he gets a buzz in first hand on face positions, buzz in second one, and no buzz in his last hand on face position then it means 110. Now 110 is a binary number whose decimal values is 6. This means he moves the 6th piece from the right which is the dark squared bishop. Thats how he cheats, lol.
@mother4413
Жыл бұрын
All this work to make up a theory meanwhile hes just good at chess
@nft3
Жыл бұрын
You forgot your meds today, bro.
@ciozmusic
Жыл бұрын
How can you understand whether it's 110 or 011 with buzzes?
@itmeskoi
Жыл бұрын
Think you're right. Pretty much every time he has to make a move, he's touching his face and cycling through the same positions with his hand over and over.
@priyamdhanuka8989
Жыл бұрын
@@ciozmusic Well, it is not hard to decide. He cycles his hand on face in the same order. Probably he decided on a left-to-right or right-to-left order
its funny the announcers were talking about how hans cant control the outcome lol.....lol thats what THEY think! lolol
5’3 v 6’1 I don’t think Magnus wants to chess box anyone but Hakumara
Mantap
Why does Magnus get that extra laptop next to him lol
@KrazyKrzysztof
Жыл бұрын
they both have laptops. the laptops are running the programs. hans' laptop has the screen down so he doesnt see 2 screens
B-plugs nodes with the win.
@nft3
Жыл бұрын
Calm your paranoic mind.
37:00 can someone explain to me why Magnus lost here?
@UnknownUser17745
Жыл бұрын
It's was a total lost for Carlson, the most optimized move is to defence and accept to lose a bishop, because if Carlson take black bishop with white bishop, the queen can take it and checkmate him after 1-3 moves.
but beads workin perfect
FTX?! SBF was using ppls money to host chess tournaments? Lmao
these announcers ... dude just stretched. smh🤡's
"cheat speak for itself" - Bob Marley, 2050
@nft3
Жыл бұрын
Grow a brain.
@evylrune
Жыл бұрын
"I always win, It don't matter if I'm black or white". - Michael Jackson, 2077
I think the labels on the bottles have some electronic wirings and allow the coach to send him messages 😇 That's why he drinks so much 😄
@worsethanjoerogan8061
Жыл бұрын
I'll stick with the anal bead theory 🤣
@jacksonwilburn6775
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I see a bunch of wires and lights on his bottle. That’s probs what it is your right. I’m surprised nobody would notice wires on a clear water bottle in front of hundreds of people??? You think hypnosis was involved
@xaviernunez7777
Жыл бұрын
@@jacksonwilburn6775 lol
@earlygrayy
Жыл бұрын
or he's just a thirsty individual
FTX crypto cup - that didn't age well.
Looking back after seeing Neiman's chessbase data (engine correlation), this Magnus blowout really looks like an anomaly
@tajneeley
Жыл бұрын
Chess base isn’t accurate
@jootpepet
Жыл бұрын
@@tajneeley even so, if everyone's data matches up and ONE player doesnt, its just common sense
@devinmcgroot7560
Жыл бұрын
@@jootpepet what about outliers in statistics
@jootpepet
Жыл бұрын
@@devinmcgroot7560 Outliers doeent just appear for no reason. "Outliers arise due to changes in system behaviour, fraudulent behaviour, human error, instrument error or simply through natural deviations in populations. A sample may have been contaminated with elements from outside the population being examined." If theres an outlier then it must be looked at and figure out how and why it deviated. Among the reasons stated above, what do you think is the most likely to have happened pertaining Nieman's "outlier" case? You think instrument error? 🤣
@ImAnOcean
Жыл бұрын
@@jootpepet didnt he lose 3 times in a row to magnus after this game? didnt he finish this tournament with 0 points? seems totally worth it for him to cheat lol
3:10 is when Magnus knew something wasn’t right
@34_Hour_Reset
Жыл бұрын
Agreed … very computerish move
@GrubHuncher
Жыл бұрын
He heard a fart and then saw a small but perfectly round bead rolling off the stage, into the darkness
@bestredditstories1158
Жыл бұрын
@@GrubHuncher LOL
@CKHunt2
Жыл бұрын
@@GrubHuncher 😂😂😂😂
@tengu8560
Жыл бұрын
I agree very inhuman move, how dare him know the theory of the first moves of that line, rtard 500 elo stfu
I think playing in the same room right across from each other on the computer is the dumbest thing ive ever seen in chess.. they may as well play from home🤷
So Magnus lost one game to this guy, then won the match. Now he's lost a game and resigned from a tournament while other GMs are calling Hans a cheat? wow.
@EPE444
Жыл бұрын
15:51
@brianflores5407
Жыл бұрын
@@EPE444 I rewatched it at least 20 times. What am I looking for ?
@23igna
Жыл бұрын
Well maybe if he never cheated online (which he did) nobody would call accuse him of that.
@chevalierdeloccident5949
Жыл бұрын
He didn't win a single match in this tournament, yet he is a "cheater" according to Magnus.
@tvms2115
Жыл бұрын
Long term strategy is to gain rating...not winning a tournament. Cash in later, of course.
Why the fuck are playing on a computer while in the same room? Just use an actual chess set at that point. I literally can't anymore smh 😔
@vlrginizer927
Жыл бұрын
Ive read through the comments and apparently they're promoting a website thus using computers
So this drama has pulled people from all corners of the internet to come watch and what we get is complete nonsense. People ceaselessly BABBLING and a confusing overlay of two boards. Like what in the f u ck am I even looking at? Yall need help. The entire production and display is sh it. Good effort and alot of money behind it but just sh it execution.
@andreapadovani01
Жыл бұрын
well they were showing possible outcomes while they were waiting for the players moves, which is pretty interesting, to me at least. and they're GMs so i think they know what they're talking about
@gregwaisso6838
Жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%. They should explain what everyone is looking at. This dude is a cheater and needs to be banned from chess. He cannot be trusted. He is so arrogant giving the world champion 0 respect like he was going to win all along, and that gives it all away. He is too young and his stupidity is glaring.
@andreapadovani01
Жыл бұрын
@@gregwaisso6838 tbh he made a lot of mistakes, unless he was trying to do those on purpose, the cheating accusations look pretty far fetched, and before the match he was checked and scanned
@truman809
Жыл бұрын
there's no cheating basically
Grand Master chess player can't follow the 1st rule of cheating most middle school kids know. Never get a perfect score.
34:18
I don't know, but hans moves are very mechanical and very suspicious. It's like his waiting for something every move? And doesn't look like he's evaluating. Unlike magnus, there are burst of moves and then, one deep think of a position.
@schlafrigerschmidt5659
Жыл бұрын
Cope
@depalodor
Жыл бұрын
Seethe
@bananaboydan3642
Жыл бұрын
Cope
@avocado4662
Жыл бұрын
Lol:) he won fair and square. Show the evidence of cheating or shut up. That’s how the world works
pawn C4 is a bad move by Magnus.
Does seem like he cheating though it’s too accurate to what announcers saying
0:38 Magnus using Spotify lmao
@EGarrett01
14 күн бұрын
Fair enough since Hans was using Stockfish.
@igliibrahimllari
13 күн бұрын
Brother that was almost 2 years ago and you are replying to a comment from over 1 year ago.... Are you ok?
@EGarrett01
13 күн бұрын
@@igliibrahimllari It’s visible now, stupid. Some of you guys have the most pathetic replies.
Notice how Hans always puts his left hand on his face just before he moves. Also the hand with a watch on. He does it every time.
@bioinfor
Жыл бұрын
Yep, that's absolute proof. No other chess players rest their head on their hands.
@zekeriasvarg530
Жыл бұрын
as fucking,, always one move the same as the one before after you give her a power stroke,, until you finnish,, simple routine.
"The chess speaks for itself" *Proceeds to lose the next 3 games against Carlsen and not win a single point in the tournament.*
@YehNahYehAyy
Жыл бұрын
Yet will live rent free in Carlsen's head for the rest of his life :)
Suspicious game. See the movements of Nieman during the game
@pyr4mid3
Жыл бұрын
Plz show me, I don't see anything suspicious
@Magihyun
Жыл бұрын
@@pyr4mid3 drinks 2 litres of water and behaves like he sits in a restaurant not playing vs the greatest intuitive mastermind in chess history. Just that.
@tengu8560
Жыл бұрын
@@Magihyun how dare you being a low rated rtard judge what a super gm is capable or not of
@Jim-pq9pm
3 ай бұрын
@@Magihyun He looked quite focused for most of the match. You're only saying this because Magnus said " I felt he wasnt focused at key moments". Your boyfriend lost the game, get over it
Why Niemman drinks a lot ?👀
@AdiBacea
Жыл бұрын
@Hunters Laptop reason 3 definitely
@zekeriasvarg530
Жыл бұрын
@@AdiBacea stock-fish
@tengu8560
Жыл бұрын
The water is telling him the moves
Still waiting for Niemann to come out and answer Magnus. The silence.....
@kartikeyatiwari2502
Жыл бұрын
Its magnus who should prove his accusations... If i came to you and said "I strongly feel that u are a killer" even though u have already said u aren't then what can u do? Its on me to prove that you are a killer, its not on you to defend an accusation with no evidence
@john-toregundersen2655
Жыл бұрын
@@kartikeyatiwari2502 No. Its on Hans to give Magnus permission to speak without beeng sued. If he got nothing to hide he should give that.
@kartikeyatiwari2502
Жыл бұрын
@Jokester 0589 Please give me evidence. Hans was playing against weaker opponents and even i can have 100% accuracy when I play weak opponents. Compare both players while they are playing the same opponents and then we will talk. For a super GM to get 100 % accuracy against 2200 is pretty easy Also, please provide proof. Nothing u said was proof of anything
@kartikeyatiwari2502
Жыл бұрын
@@john-toregundersen2655 nope. If magnus has proof then he doesn't need hans permission since proof is an absolute defense against it. The only reason why magnus would actually need permission from hans is if he has no evidence and wants to slander hans for free
@walshmabob1834
Жыл бұрын
@@kartikeyatiwari2502 evidence is for you to go and watch hikarus vid
15min in he's 100 💯 cheating with his signals
@imalegendofsomething6838
11 ай бұрын
You have no evidence so… That doesn’t he cheated.
Hans cheated. I don't know how he did it but he didn't stop drinking Throughout the game and that is already curious, both that and the perfect way to play and look for Magnus's weak points.
@Max-pw7rl
Ай бұрын
How is drinking related to cheating ?
I hated the speakers. Dude just stretched his arms and they talked about it for 10 fcking minutes….
2:02 Did he check his watch after that stretch?
@nft3
Жыл бұрын
Did you take your meds today?
@marchedobejas6428
Жыл бұрын
Take ur meds pls
Ron Weasley would beat both of em.....
Hans body language speak for itself. SUS AF
@jeffxdd4351
Жыл бұрын
you definitely believe in horoscopes
@nickimovassaghi4207
Жыл бұрын
@@jeffxdd4351 it's called understanding human behavior
@jeffxdd4351
Жыл бұрын
@@nickimovassaghi4207 cope
@nickimovassaghi4207
Жыл бұрын
@@jeffxdd4351 all G my guy. We all start somewhere
@jeffxdd4351
Жыл бұрын
@@nickimovassaghi4207 seethe
announcers definitely biased lol
@connormason5120
Жыл бұрын
it’s insane right hahaha. so confident about magnussen too, unreal
@doxfie.
Жыл бұрын
you don't bite the hand that feeds you
gigi d'ag on carlsen's pc
Magnus played terrible. Give Hans his flowers
Yes. Incredible cheating results For a Grandiose Narcissist Hans. why Is He wearing a Watch.....
People say beads, i think he is wearing one of those 300 dollar toupes with computer underneath
Hate the animation. It doesn't help.
good game
Isn't it suspicious he's waiting on every move? He doesn't seem evaluating. But he's seems waiting for something for every move.
@schlafrigerschmidt5659
Жыл бұрын
Cope
@depalodor
Жыл бұрын
Seethe
@juicehiphop4264
Жыл бұрын
1:38 stop seeing what your brain and others tell you. Be rational
@Ariel1Dominguez
Жыл бұрын
Maybe you would win more games if you think before you move.
@arielpulmano
Жыл бұрын
@@juicehiphop4264 it's still on opening theory. But after that, his moves becomes very mechanical and unnatural. Chess players know what I'm talking about. And on the interview, you would hope the player to comment on what they are thinking on certain positions and critical moments, and yet, "chess speaks for itself" like what?
1:41 and the swallow next is all I need to see, body language, open your eyes
4:46 the fact that neimann didn't take the pawn tells me that he didn't cheat
@MalleusIudaeorum
Жыл бұрын
-_-
When i see this Hans' chess movements against Magnus, i see his true talents in chess... Magnus maybe the best now, but he can't judges Hans Niemann as a cheater... Hans really makes the chess game very unique and full of surprises... For me, that's not an act of cheating... he just CAN thinking like "out of the box" !!! 👍
@zekeriasvarg530
Жыл бұрын
I agree with you,,, I think he sees it more like blocking out the possibillities for the other player as alpha zero plays. More doing that so then trying to find some line. Strategic play to make your oponent lacking moves.
@im_powrful4218
Жыл бұрын
@@zekeriasvarg530 That's what I'm talking about. Humans can think like machines did too. Not guilty until proven!! 💪
Funny Judas ahjahaahah
There is no such thing as out playing someone in chess It’s just who makes the bigger mistakes And magnus made some big mistakes and Hans didn’t make as many so he won
For those saying these guy cheated using buzz with his whatch etc. This guy beated Carlsen in Sinquefield Cup without wearing any watches. I personally don't think he cheated in any of those games. I agree that Nieman is arrogant and looks like a psychopath, however, the fact that he don't answer our questions the way we expect don't make him a cheater. And honestly I have not seen yet a convincing evidence and nothing near a proof. Most of those analytical reports around KZread are easy to discredit. I think this guy will ended millionaire after he starts suing a couple of institutions and GM for defamation. Yes, he has several hard to see moves and tactics, still that proof nothing.
@hirotakasugi4891
Жыл бұрын
well yeah, the communication device was against his prostate not on his wrist.
It's 2023 June now after that game hans never rise again his fellow young players are playing tons of competition and he's just disappear 😂😂😂😂😂
@PK_Ave
10 ай бұрын
Nope, he played tourneys abroad and is back now :] They tried to ruin his career but failed
@Jim-pq9pm
3 ай бұрын
Hans just placed first in the Grenke. Cope
Magnus is so focused and in full concentration the entire game, whereas Hans seems to have a wandering mind, eyes drifting, and seems very unfocused to be playing that well. Watching other chess matches, it seems all the Great players show an intense, focused mindset similar to Magnus. Just a bit suspicious!
@zekeriasvarg530
Жыл бұрын
Hans thinks of pussy,,, its easy for him. He is just the new Paul Morphy,, just do it simple,, blitz out the moves. Dont complicate anything.
Hans cheated
LMFAO
The beginning of Hans cheating against Carlsen.
Great game but that presenter's beard is just ridiculous. Why didn't his mates mention how awful it looks?
Playing with computers because of covid? Still? Is it worse over there than in here? Its hardly even talked about here anymore. What about cloves and masks?
@zekeriasvarg530
Жыл бұрын
I think its easier to play on a computer,,, I am so used with computer look of chess that I get confused playing old style
As a complete outsider to chess, who's been following this story over the last week... I think it's pretty clear. Hans is the new sheriff in town, and Magnus is salty.
@enabler2456
Жыл бұрын
sure lol
@brycerogers1757
Жыл бұрын
He just annihilated everyone at the generations cup setting a record for most points in a preliminary even after resigning to hans on move 2. Then destroyed in the finals to win. He's not done yet. Hans is sus af
@Jim-pq9pm
3 ай бұрын
A year later and you're proven right. Hans is kicking ass, and they had to settle with him on the accusations, plus the majority of the accusations have been debunked.
@jt.xyzxyz
3 ай бұрын
@@Jim-pq9pm .. ty!! 😊💪💪👐👐👏👏👏
Cheat
FTX… yikes. Has not aged well