For drywall, I use a sewing push pin, with the little plastic ball on the end. I break the plastic off by crushing it with vise grips and then clamp down on that end with the vise grips. Holding the vise grips, you can carefully push the pin through the drywall and tell if you have hit wood or not. Obviously leaves a much smaller hole that is easier to patch.

I use tiny T pins that I can push in with my hands. Smaller holes. I use this in conjunction with a stud finder.

@TheHonestCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

That’s a good idea, Josh. I’m going to try that 👍

@wanderingwade8877

3 жыл бұрын

Nice tip!

I have never heard of bracketing before. Thanks for the clarification of what it means also. Yet another trade word I have learned from you from watching your channel. Thank you for the helpful content you put out boss .

The trim nail is good, but I like to use a drill with a 1/16" bit. Much easier to get in and out, and a tiny hole. Bonus is you can also drill your pilot hole for the actual bit you want.

When I saw you tack the holes I burst out laughing. Apparently the previous tenant in my home didn't have a stud finder and there is literally a 3 foot line of holes along one of my front room walls. I was always curious as to how they got there and now I know. Thanks :)

That's great advice! I not only sweep the studfinder from both directions, I turn the studfinder UPSIDE DOWN and sweep from both directions, because in many cases the signal is somewhat offset from the housing of the studfinder (ie, what you would think is the middle of the studfinder is not). I sort of visually take an average of all four tick marks I make and call that the center of the stud.

@TheHonestCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Good point, Wan! This Black and Decker is actually really bad for a reliable marking point 😅 I tend to like models with a center notch. But you're right, you need as many reference points as you can really get.

I'm sure some people are the thinking about past projects and sweating it.

I found the studs in the wall on which I was hanging my TV by removing a large piece of drywall, lol. Apparently, my house was built by a bunch drunk and/or blind guys. There's not a whole lot that's square/plumb and a good portion of the studs aren't on 16" centers. So I cut out a large portion of the drywall, added in some cross bracing, reattached the drywall, fixed the gaps/holes, and then hung my TV. It wasn't ideal, but it got the job done.

@midnightsunturbo

3 жыл бұрын

Must be the guys who built our house too. I originally thought it was built by Mickey Mouses.

@CytoplasmicGoo

3 жыл бұрын

Oh hey I know these guys, they’re the same asshats that installed a buddy’s electric oven using an extension cord and ran it under the cabinets. It melted creating a burning smell and shorted out the oven.

@45Camster

3 жыл бұрын

@@CytoplasmicGoo Same electrician that worked in my house. Rather than drill a hole in the cross brace to run electrical cables they battered the brace off instead. I discovered this while repairing the wall after taking off the wall mounted TV, finding two studs running floor to ceiling with no brace. Directly above a socket hence the cables running there. Guessing their battery ran out that day so they switched to the hammer 🤦🏻‍♂️🙄.

@CytoplasmicGoo

3 жыл бұрын

@@45Camster Lol, this guy gets around.

Thanks! I’m a beginner and did not know about bracketing. Very helpful safety precaution.

Great video, thanks! As a long-time DIYer, I have used an assortment of electronic stud finders and tried to bracket the stud with them. I have gone back to just tapping the wall with my finger and then using the finish nails to find the center of the stud. Nice to know that others use and like this method. 👍

Bracketing a stud was news to me. I have a very heavy mirror to hang in a bathroom. You just taught me how to avoid a disaster. Thanks!!

Thank you,... I’ve been doing this for a while and was embarrassed because I thought it was an amateur move,... this was a confidence building for me,... thanks again.

So glad I found your channel. I do most of my own home repairs.

You are the Man!! Never thought of this "obvious" future nightmare! "Was it helpful?" ? It was life changing Gold! Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

Hi Ethan! I'm a DIYer and watch your videos all the time. I'm also an ex-IT-guy. I find the Magnepull saves me more time and lets me find and go through hidden wall construction easier than anything else. Nails... great. Stud finders... great. Magnepull... not only find the stud but get stuff through it without fishtape. Not as useful for hanging ... but extremely useful for wiring.

My dad taught me this in the 1950s & '60s, when finding a stud was done by magnet or tapping. . . no electronic finders then. Something else I learned is that dropping a plumb line from a point along the stud does NOT guarantee you'll find that stud's center further down the wall. The stud may be warped or even installed out of plumb. Never trust . . . Always verify.

@KitchenerLeslie2

3 жыл бұрын

No pros use electronic stud finders these days either.

I'm glad to see a professional doing this, I've been doing this for a while on DIY stuff and have wondered if I was being overly paranoid, lol.

@TheHonestCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Nope! It’s rare that I don’t do this,Adam, especially in a client’s house. 👍

I have to admit I did not about this but I am glad I watched the tutorial. The next time I look for a stud I will bracket it. Thanks for this great information.

I can't remember if my dad taught me to do this, or I thought of it myself because of a lousy stud finder, but it's definitely the way to go. I usually write a Y or N to remind me of where I hit solid wood, because it may be a while before I actually hang anything and because it can be more complicated than finding a single stud. In my house, I've run into double and triple studs (near windows and doors and below beams), as well as plywood behind the drywall where the furnace plenum is. Also, when I use a magnet to find the drywall screws, I put the magnet on the end of the nail instead of trying to hang onto a slippery little magnet with dry fingertips, so I don't waste time finding a dropped magnet and fishing it out or having to get a new one.

Great video! Ive been bracketing with the stud finder but will start double checking with the nail just to be safe!

Im literally an amateur and live in a ground floor apartment trying to hang a swing chair after my father in law hitches the job my handing the chair from a beam he put up in the corner of the room about two thirds up the wall, not on the ceiling, he did this to avoid having to locate joists and I'm just trying to redo this whole thing myself directly into the ceiling as the swing chair currently rests against the wall and doesn't swing at alk, I greatly appreciated all your videos they've helped a lot

Great video. I always emphasize the importance of using the center of the stud when hanging a tv wall mount bracket.

Thank you so much for this best practice. You described the process well, and I'll be sure to make sure I'm doing this every time!

We do this a lot to find studs behind paneling in old homes. Especially if putting up soundboard and drywall over it. Not to mention old houses ive seen the studs be off nearly an inch from 16". Makes finding em really fun

I never heard it referred to as bracketing, but this is a MUST. Thanks for sharing this video.

Thanks! This is helpful eduction for someone who is frustrated n clueless!

I feel like I should tear my tv down and double check the bolts now. Damn ignorance was bliss

I'll admit I didn't even think about it. Everything you said makes perfect sense, of course, but it just didn't register until I got here. I was one of those guys that hit a stud with a stud finder and started hammering. Well, not any more. Thanks for the tips!

I never heard of stud bracketing but since I was a kid, I would do this but with a small drill bit (smaller holes). Once center is found, it's easy to measure to the next stud. Soon to be using a bracket for a new 60" tv I will be SURE to find Center. Happy Trails.!!.

Short - and to the point. Nice video dude. Already knew about the nail method - but it’s a pleasure to watch quality content from a fellow tradesman.

@TheHonestCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Yovan! 😄

Great video. Magnetic darts can be helpful in finding and lining up studs too.

Glad to know there is an actual term for how I found the centers of my studs when mounting a TV other than “mistakenly drilling holes until I hit one”

@TheHonestCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

That’s still an acceptable technique, Mike! 😆

@mastheadmike

3 жыл бұрын

You know what they say! “Measure thrice, cut twice!” 😂🤦🏻‍♂️

I did not know this, but it certainly makes sense. Very valuable info.

This was something I knew but in my laziness always forget to do. This was a great wake up call! Thanks as usual!

I’ve been “bracketing” with a stud finder for 30 years. Always works for me.

Thank you so much for this video!! I have a big round mirror, and with this information, I'm sure I will have success in mounting it. I did not know of this method. and I don't have a stud finder. I'm glad I found you.

Thanks. This is clearly the smartest and best approach, and better than the way most people do this....but this might not always be the best way in situations where you hate having to patch/paint and/or hide several holes, especially if what you are hanging isn't too heavy. One of my 3 cheap stud finders is pretty reliable, so I do 3-5 passes going each way and lightly marking each edge until I get consistency from the passes, then I mark halfway between the edges. I haven't missed any secure stud mountings since doing this. Before I mount, I wipe away the slight pencil markings and I have only one screw mount and no holes to patch or marks to paint over. When I take the art down, I leave the screw mount or take it out and have just one small hole to patch and refinish. Also, I sometimes choose to just use toggles or screw in mounts in the drywall without worrying about multiple holes. Also, someone mentioned using your bracketing approach with a smaller pin to make smaller holes and that might be useful as well... Again, thanks much!

This is some of the best advice I’ve seen on KZread. Thank you!

I learned something new today. Thank you for this tutorial!

Although I didn't know this, I do have a stud finder that locates the center of the stud. What I didn't know about is the position of the stud in the wall. I thought it was positioned with the wide side facing towards me. Now I know the stud is much narrower and I can use this bracketing technique with a nail will help me be sure and safe. Thanks for this video

Appreciate the great tips, keep em coming!

Your content is beyond amazing. It produces a problem, answer the question. And then shows a video on how to do it. You are the pro in your field. You are getting known as the expert. I’ll be watching you. Good luck my friend.

@TheHonestCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Chris! That’s very high praise, which I take to heart. I’m hoping to push the channel to new heights in 2021. I’m very glad to have you watching!

That black and decker stud finder looks like something out of Star Wars. Good info!

@TheHonestCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

I know, John, this thing is kind of a clunker 😆 Thanks for watching!

@jasonjayalap

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheHonestCarpenter It shows you if detects metal studs? How do people nail into metal studs?

@dougguest6454

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonjayalap Use a magnet is the simplest way. Use screws to attach anything to metal studs obviously.

1/16” drill bit works great for this!

The nail method is what I use. I've yet to find a stud finder that works reliably in an insulated wall

@TheHonestCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Same here, Mark. My stud finders have died and gone missing too many times as well. The nail never lies.

@Elgringo2180

3 жыл бұрын

Do you use any magnet? Is there a specific size or type that’s best? Might be a dumb question but I’m not handy at all

@markgriz

3 жыл бұрын

@@Elgringo2180 He mentions using a magnet at 1:45. At the very beginning of the video, he shows what type of magnet to use. It needs to be a strong magnet, a basic refrigerator magnet will likely not be strong enough.

@PrinceBarin77

3 жыл бұрын

@@Elgringo2180 I bought the ones shown in the video. They are perfect IMO: kzread.info/dash/bejne/mmWVxrKjo8TOZdo.html

@pegleg00

3 жыл бұрын

Stud finders are also not reliable on lath and plaster walls.

Oh one more thing.....never thought of using a magnet to find nails in walls....i'll try it hope it works. thank you so much again!!!

Always good info here. Thanks!,

Hi Ethan, thanks so much for the update. My daughter asked for her TV to be wall mounted. I'll use this method with the magnets I picked up. Have a happy holiday season.

@TheHonestCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear, Cath! Happy holidays! 🙂

Great tip! Thanks for sharing!

Okay, thank you. This is the video I knew i needed to see.

I didn't know this. Thank you so much.

This channel is everything I needed

Figured out this technique on my own one day cause I didn't have a stud finder, ha! Well good to know I'm not being silly poking a bunch of holes in the wall....

I have 4 stud sensors that include a pretty pricey one. My cheapest appears to be the most reliable. During a major reno, a carpenter told me the foil vapour barrier may be the culprit for the readings. 2 have electrical fixture sensors but the cheaper of the 2 beeps even when I scanned a hollow interior door & a window glass.

Awesome tip. Thanks!

Very helpful! I didn't know this. Maybe this keep from a disaster hanging things in the new house. On a paneled wall finding studs was fairly easy, not so much on sheetrock finished walls. Thanks

Thank for the tip, very helpful. I usually just knock and if it sounds solid, I just screw in anything. Stupid me. I subscribed and liked. Keep up the work.

@TheHonestCarpenter

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Jay! 😄

Didn't know this, awesome, simple, tip!

Thank you for the great Tip 👍

Great reminder! Thanks!

Please do a video on how to hang items with a plaster/masonry wall! I'm losing my mind here.

@prannis1

3 жыл бұрын

Karen W., I recently discovered a product that works great on masonry/plaster walls. They are called Walldogs screws. I purchased them at Home Depot and also Amazon. I would still like to know if they are other methods or products that would work.

@ian1352

3 жыл бұрын

Here the walls are usually brick and concrete. We use anchor bolts for really heavy things. Otherwise nylon wall plugs and wood screws.

@se5594

3 жыл бұрын

My house has cinder block walls. If like to know how to hang things from them. Does the alien tape work?

Thank you for the easy explanation. It was very helpful !

@TheHonestCarpenter

Жыл бұрын

Sure thing, Monica!

So helpful. Thank you!

I also use small drill bit, since I always have it with me anyway since am hanging something. Another approach I used to use was to locate one side of the stud via mutiple vertical passes (so find left edge, go doen a few inches and find left edge, down a few inches and find left edge), them come back in from other side and so same (find right edge, move down few inches, find right edge again, move down, etc). Three or four times on each side and you'll have a pretty good picture of the stud "bracket". The way in the vid is easier, tho :)

I am going to remember this. I have one t.v. already mounted my next one I will bracket it.

Very helpful. Great information. Nicely done.

You should patch up these small holes to find the center in all walls , especially outter walls , last thing you want is to feel air coming into your home. Even on inside walls, I can feel a pressure difference (airflow) - as the walls end up going up to 2x4's that go to the attic. I would always recommend patching up even the smallest holes you make in any wall.

@integral

3 жыл бұрын

And if you don't have any drywall patch you can use toothpaste. No, I'm not joking.

This is how my dad taught me to find a stud, never knew it was called bracketing, but it makes a lot of sense. Thanks for sharing your knowledge!

Very helpful, thank you for it mate.

Thanks, that was very helpful.

Man thanks for sharing your knowledge you’re awesome!

Great tips. Thanks

Man I'm so glad we have brick and concrete houses in Europe... Drill, plug, screw, done.

@josephcampese5347

3 жыл бұрын

interior brick and concrete walls?so all your plumbing and electricity runs are on the outside of the walls? you better rethink your claim.

@richardl1572

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephcampese5347 No those things are all chased into the walls after building and then rendered over. It's all on technical drawings so you don't drill through them

@josephcampese5347

3 жыл бұрын

@@richardl1572 yeah, no kidding. they're rendered over with latheing and plaster or drywall. which brings us right back to where we started. your claim is phooy.

@richardl1572

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephcampese5347 Lol my friend, I know how the houses here (at least in Portugal) are built as I'm in that business. 1 cm of render (not weak plaster) and bricks or concrete behind it, so it literally is drill, plug, screw and done. We don't need metal detectors and stuff like that.

Glad I found your You Tube Channel! Subscribed! Thanks and keep it coming :)

Great new advice. Thanks again.

@TheHonestCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

You’re welcome, Richard!

Thanks for the tip.

Never through about that thanks for that tip

Good information nice to know Tony ☘️

AWESOME advise THANK YOU!!!!!!

I have a 100 lb ceramic art piece to hang. This is invaluable information for my hanging project. Thank you!

I use a drill with a small drill bit - so much quicker than nails IMO. Thanks for the video!

@pandresa

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah and if you hammer the nail in too far by accident you'll need to get under the head to pull it back out

Knew it, but pleased it’s now official!!

definitely useful. thanks.

Thank you simple but never thought of it

Thanks! Appreciate you!

I do this all the time but didn’t know what it was called. I use an 1/8” drill bit and a drill with a tapping motion. I’ll pre mark the edges of the stud first and then go back with the drill bit to make sure i’m hitting solid wood.

Great stuff. I've always thought this was obvious but then my formative construction years occurred in the nuclear Navy and back then we'd have ordered a radiograph of the dang wall.

Thank you!!

I just moved into a house where. They mounted the TV's with anchors. Very cringy since the mounts used lag bolts lol

That was a very good lesson

Thanks for this.

Awesome dude... thanks so much love your content.

@TheHonestCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you Chris!

Great tip. Is there a sure fire way to find studs in a lath and plaster wall in a 1935 house. Have found 16”, 18”, and 24” shaving. Only consistent thing seems to be inconsistency! Thanks again for this and so many other useful tips.

@markgriz

3 жыл бұрын

With lath, I think a drill would work better than a nail, as it would be easier to determine if you've drilled into stud vs lath. Or if you have access to a thermal imaging camera, that would probably show it pretty clearly. Not your average DIY tool though

Helpful. Thanks!

I might be late to this conversation, but I speculate that regular power bits have a power groove because they can fit into cordless screwdrivers since they also have collets like impact drivers.

Wow... very good to know .. im hanging a tv soon. Imagine if my new tv fell... thank you for explaining.

Very helpful! Didn’t know about this! Please keep these very educational videos coming!! Thank you!

@TheHonestCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

Will do, Jakob! Glad it’s helpful 🙂

Super helpful

You should, once you have found the centre of the stud, pre-drill the hole, so your screw doesn't split the stud.

@mikevlek

3 жыл бұрын

You using m25 screws my dude?

You right. Always check from both sides of stud. Had neighbors 56 inch TV slip from on side.

@TheHonestCarpenter

3 жыл бұрын

😖 That's what terrifies me, Bob. Especially with these mounts that swing out 2' now. Just one side of that bracket has to come loose...