Looking Glass Go on Kickstarter: www.kickstarter.com/projects/lookingglass/looking-glass-go Looking Glass: lookingglassfactory.com/

Actually impressive how much they shrunk down the looking glass display. Look forward to the future

@njdotson

7 ай бұрын

It's also interesting how they got it to run well because the older versions needed a gaming computer

I have a Looking Glass Portrait. It's fantastic. Love the product, love the company. Great bunch of people on Discord. Can't recommend enough!

I have 3 of the little portrait displays for showing 3D animated artworks. I think they're like magic.

I'm so happy that there are geniuses like this dude who are very passionate about stuff like this willing to spend the time and money to create stuff that are cutting edge technology.

Yes, such screens can also send photos from different sites. Interesting invention.

Good to see Norm doing videos again

Now imagine that as a laptop screen.

@HatchlingKifa

7 ай бұрын

And a necessity to basically generate what, 100 times more frames of everything to provide data for all the hologram angles? How would that work?

@Artista_Frustrado

7 ай бұрын

i think they showed a concept laptop with a lenticular display at this year's CES

@falxonPSN

7 ай бұрын

Eventually, this would be pretty cool. But the fact that you have to massively reduce the resolution of the display to allow for the viewing angles would mean any kind of text would be massively blurry and painful to read.

@googleslocik

6 ай бұрын

​@@HatchlingKifa Bigger gpu overhead + interpolation for now lower framerates and resolutions would be enough, going back in framerates and resolutions sucks but it would work without any tricks or hacks

@besknighter

5 ай бұрын

@@Artista_Frustrado At GDC 2023 too.

looks like they want to show cell phone companies what they are missing! It would be cool to have this type of screen on a phone. I wonder if you could have it switch between a high res flat display mode and the "lower" res 3D mode. Then add a touch screen interface and you've got a phone that can do holograms when you want it to!

@XanXic

7 ай бұрын

Amazon made a phone that was able to replicate this. Using a few front screen cameras it could tell where you face is and rotate the view of the screen creating a very convincing 3D effect. But then nothing really took advantage of it. So you could have a cool 3D homescreen and your apps floating around in space but beyond that nothing to hook people and didn't sell well.

@enbyopossum

7 ай бұрын

Makes me think of the Nintendo 3DS... And all the headaches it gave me @_@

@marko_v

2 ай бұрын

I still have my HTC Evo 3D (glasses-free) cellphone from around 2015. People are still amazed when they see it. You could turn the 3D on or off. Too bad it never took off. I wish Apple would get on board something like this. I think people are ready for something new and groundbreaking.

@Loanshark753

Ай бұрын

@@marko_v At least with a glasses free 3d display the resolution per eye is at least only half of the full resolution of the display rather than 1/50 of the full display resolution.

Yet another company trying to generate a subscription service

@justaperson3754

29 күн бұрын

Wait you need a subscription?

Does this have parallax in all directions? Or is it only horizontal?

@XDY8

7 ай бұрын

I'm wondering the same, the idea of turning it on it's side to watch say a 3d movie or view a model horizontally would be great

@0x1EGEN

6 ай бұрын

It's only horizontal. Rendering different angles in both axis (assume it's 100 x 100 views) would be 10000 frames! Even the highest end GPU on the market right now can't even render that many frames in realtime. Voxon's volumetric display would be better in this regard since it works from all perspectives and only renders a couple hundred frames.

@kurousagi1339

5 ай бұрын

@@0x1EGEN Besides the GPU rendering issue. As far as I know, lenticular optics only work on a single axis. I don’t think there’s any lenticular lens that can do two axis (horizontally & vertically). The only work around I can think of is using eye/face tracking to shift the perspective. And I think there are prototype laptop displays out there that do this.

I wish laser holography (true holography imo) was more accessible to general people like this

Absurdly cool tech, and the speed with which they've managed to get it so thin is ridiculous. For the first "normal" consumer implementations though I do hope that they go with a hybrid approach that integrates some aspects of pseudo-holographic displays. The effectively infinite simultaneous observers capability is awesome and definitely has it's use-cases, but for something like a simple phone display having it understand when there's only a single viewer (as there would be 99.99% of the time) could be huge for power and resource consumption; as it could just fall back to using front-facing cameras to loosely track which cluster of viewports actually need to be rendered at any given moment.

So cool the X-wing 🔥🔥🔥

Very Cool !

13:52 paywalling privacy features, nice.

i wonder if they will eventually use a transparent display and allow for making the background transparent for that true hologram feel

@yesno9592

6 ай бұрын

@garforce2 Afaik it should be possible with this technology to have it be completely transparent block of glass. Would make for amazing mixed vr HUD applications. Probably new phones will use this tech. These guys are going to be big time. Btw. There is already a way to simulate transparency by using camera on the back to provide image of the background, making it seem like screen is transparent.

@DeusExNihilo

5 ай бұрын

I imagine the lenticular design of this would distort all light that passes through it if it was transparent. It would probably be a cool effect but it wouldn't exactly be see though

This is an OLD technology, applied to very modern devices... *FINALLY* !!! :D This has always seemed like such a "Duh! Why not??" thing to me. Well finally we're seeing it. Very awesome!

@LagiohX3

7 ай бұрын

well the software was the new difficult part

@lllllREDACTEDlllll

6 ай бұрын

Not a lithograph but is super cool. More like painting on layers of glass...

Great video norm sir 👏 👍 👌 😊

So the parallax is only in the x axis right? I wonder if it will ever be possible / when it will be possible to have parralax in both dimensions. This form factor seems like it was made with phones in mind, but it wouldn't be too great if you can't use it in landscape mode.

I would love a huge one of these to make a fake window for my basement. With animated ocean in the background at night with sound.

Reminds lions of Lytro, a toy not quite developed enough to be useful for anything. Could imagine it selling to generation Xers trying to recapture the hologram craze of their childhood.

"Oh looks cool i wonder how much they cost." *Looks it up* "Yea, nvm"

How does it work? Is it just a high-res version of those lenslet sheets with vertical cylindrical lenslets, or something like a multi-layer tensor-display or something of the sort? Or something else?

@Leonardo-ql1qu

5 ай бұрын

It's a low-res, albeit sophisticated and nice version of the old lenticular photos. For the price, it's going nowhere, if you ask me!

Despite how incredible is this, it’s not an holographic display, its just a multi view display, same thing as a lenticular board. The thing that makes an hologram different from a photograph it’s that the hologram not only saves the light but it contains also the interference pattern information on every single point of the hologram

The targeting of the product(s) is interesting. I hope they make enough money to be influential on standards. This kind of thing could justify 8K or 16K obviously well into the future. It's a really cool way to present a 3D space in a 2D pace if you want to reference motion pictures. You can lean a little and it feels natural but it's still a directed experience as opposed to 180 or 360 stereo. Having a screen of facets small enough and seamless enough to witness 50 feeds of different angles of the same movie if I moved far enough. That's not IMAX, that's crazy 'film'.

Does anyone remember the nintendo 3ds?

Just backed it!

Wish they would add the wifi support to the portrait displays, they have a raspberry pi 4 inside them so am sure it should be possible. Its not great to have to connect it to a PC to upload stuff

@jburns47

5 ай бұрын

The author of this video, Adam Savage, has a post on the Looking Glass Discord Channel detailing how to make the LGP WIFI capable.

Lost me with subscription service I’ll go the long way around

If you buy one be mindful of import taxes. FedEx charged me 78 additional euros to import to France and it is the customer (not the Looking Glass factory) that needs to pay. So add 78 euros to the price stated in the website.

Now make the display transparent like those transparent tv and you almost got a real sci-fi hologram

Nice to see Norm under (almost) decent video lighting again.

I agree, that’s a digital hologram.

I want to see a proof-of-concept VR HMD using them for displays. Just to see if it works and if it is a good idea. Seems it could be but IDK. It depends on how this is implemented. Worth a shot, though.

@noergelstein

5 ай бұрын

That mounted on a microled display would be the ultimate VR display. You don‘t need anymore focusing lenses, which are either bulky or consume a lot of light (pancake lenses). You could have real depth of field to solve the Vergence-accommodation conflict. You have the flattest possible display + lens combo (lens are glued onto the display). But it would need an insanely high res base display and eye tracking + foveated rendering is a must.

@JulieBrandon-geekycow

2 ай бұрын

This isn't e.g. a lightfield display, it's just a high resolution version of 3D TVs and the Nintendo 3DS. Misleading.

Would that display my 2 image stereographs? You might have seen my work online. 3d pinups by SAMU.

I remember when this was called the HTC Evo 3D

3 boyutlu kameralarla çekilmiş görsellerde nasıl çalışıyor sizin derinlik algılama algoritması parlaklığa göre çalışıyor kamera ise iki farklı görüntüyü getiriyor o zaman şunu mu yapıyor iç içe geçen ekranların birine sağ kameradan diğerine sol kameradan akıyor filan mı aslında çokta farklı değil biri ekranın içindeyken görüntüyü ayrıştırıyor diğeri gözlerimize ayrı ayrı görüntü sunarak

Would you be able to use an older (like 10years old) computer with this? I don't want to buy a whole new computer to use blender with this

So it's an electronic view master.

*cough* Nintendo 3DS *cough* I'm one of those rare people who feel bad for these 3D/VR/AR companies that have dreams, but are almost all destined to crash and burn so, so hard... I'm getting a Bigscreen Beyond this month and Praydog's UEVR should be coming out too, there's still life in these things, but 3D TV's and the Quest3 were the large scale litmus tests, and the public doesn't seem to want them

@NerdSnipingBatman

7 ай бұрын

Things don't always need mass adoption to survive. Hell, there's still plenty of ham radio people and that was always a niche hobby. There's things that are super super niche too like giant sets of colored plastic swatches for product designers to use. The niche just has to be big enough that enough people want it.

@ytubeanon

7 ай бұрын

@@NerdSnipingBatman3D/VR/AR tech tends to be slightly more expensive to make than color swatches, they need a greater ROI to continue, the classic story is losing all their money and shutting down

@NerdSnipingBatman

7 ай бұрын

@@ytubeanon those color swatches are extremely accurate samples, and the whole set of 10,000 or so swatches is about $5000. And don't knock material sciences. When colored plastic was first a thing they could only make a few colors out of cassein plastic

@ytubeanon

7 ай бұрын

@@NerdSnipingBatman "Things don't always need mass adoption to survive." I have always been referring to thriving... please enjoy your color swatches.

@anon_y_mousse

6 ай бұрын

@@ytubeanon People keep trying because everyone wants it. The only reason they don't succeed is because the people trying fail to produce the tech. Of course, all development in this area brings us a step closer, and the people trying to develop the tech know this, so people keep trying. Eventually someone will make a proper hologram and then they'll be everywhere. And there are plenty of people that still play games on their 3DS.

Corridor crew did it

i mean is neat & all... why would i want it for the go?

Stop calling lenticular holographic.

@joelmulder

4 ай бұрын

This is literally the original definition of the word.

@gabrielkardos4342

3 ай бұрын

Stereoscopic lenticular displays like in the 3DS are not holographic, nor are the facy 3D stereo lenticular eye tracking laptop screens which can track your viewing angle and adjust view in software but its still just stereo for one person, but this sends out multiple actual views and reproduces the same field of light an actual object reflecting light back at you would and therefore I would call it a real hologram.

@demiurgeHater21

3 ай бұрын

@@gabrielkardos4342 Not true. holography captures light as a wavefront. lenticular and integral imaging simplifies the representation of the light field by reducing wavefronts into light rays. This display doesn't even produce vertical parallax and is horizontal parallax only. If you want to use the term "light field" let alone holographic, it should at least provide full parallax.

@gabrielkardos4342

3 ай бұрын

@demiurgeHater21 There are reasons that merit the lack of vertical paralax. It doesn't provide that much, so it is an ideal optimisation. As for true holography, the only true holography I know of is analogue and uses lazers and holographic film... but as far as digital displays go, this is still the closest thing we have, and to the eye, it looks nearly identical and in colour... tho idk anything about the wavefront thing you're talking about and don't know how that would affect the viewing experience. I'm happy with it being holographic tho.

@Coinmancer

2 ай бұрын

@@gabrielkardos4342the big difference between 3ds and this display is the 3ds has two distinct views or angles for stereo… this has many many views in a lightfield which mimic a hologram. You can view it at a large array of different angles to the point it appears seamless if you move between them.

People need to look up the actual scientific definition of what a hologram is. It isn't just what you've seen in movies & TV shows, which btw co-opted the science for their fiction. These displays are by definition holograms. Don't let your media literacy be confused with science literacy.

@falxonPSN

7 ай бұрын

These images are not Holograms but are 3D lenticular displays. Look up what that means. Then look up laser holography.

HOLO HAIL from FINLAND 🤟

These will in the future be excellent as a cloaking device for various vehicles.

There were "holograms" in the 70s that had actual movement, although they couldn't get colour right. Logan's Run used them. This is the sort of 3D you'd find in a cereal box.

@tomleo13

7 ай бұрын

It does has movement, look at 12:10

Missed a trick not including a camera so 2 people can hold call each other

you could probably next make a curved screen to make a 360 degree tube display and put the tech in the middle, so like with the spacesuit you could look all the way around it like a holographic miniature that could have intergrated chat GPT. - if the picture is taken outdoors in a park of your dog the background would also give the effect of looking out around the park where you where when you turn the tube display - no need to make, paint or 3d print a miniature, saving from distributing more plastic

It works so well I can see the holographic effect on my normal monitor...

Cloud based depth generation? So I assume that if the company goes under the product becomes useless? I won't buy into something that is THAT dependent on the company doing well.

One step closer to irl PREY

Great, another cloud connected device.

@irvinm1957

7 ай бұрын

Uhmm how else you think our technology is going to grow?

@anon_y_mousse

6 ай бұрын

@@irvinm1957 By people buying the devices. Otherwise they might as well be free if they're just going to monetize their customers.

Lenticular, not a hologram!

@j.t.dennis4900

5 ай бұрын

Thank you! It's impressive, but I thought it looked autosteroscopic rather than like a true holographic display.

@Leonardo-ql1qu

5 ай бұрын

Thanks, unfortunately, real holography has been going nowhere ever since its invention by Dennis Gabor. Functional, animated color holography will only be possible when computers are fast enough and displays are sophisticated enough to create real-time, dynamic nanoscale interference patterns. Optical engineers have been working on it for decades, but it turns out to be very complicated. The underlying physics of flat-panel holography - photon refraction - is super interesting! @@j.t.dennis4900

Are these lenticular?

@Tactical_Hotdog

7 ай бұрын

Watch the video...go to their website...

@Nobody-Nowhere

7 ай бұрын

@@Tactical_Hotdog Seems they are lenticular. So basically its like all those 3D postcards but on a LCD. No up or down.

@DevinGates

7 ай бұрын

That's the word! There must be an incredibly high count on vertical led strips to make the effect work so well.

i want the clear version, bring back clear plastic on tech

Viewing angles aren’t great still cool tech.

Neat, but all of the wifi and cloud speak feels a bit unnecessary for random novelties and knickknacks like these. Can't wait to have the "privilege" of viewing unskippable hologram advertisements on a picture frame. Can we please have the neat "style over substance" cyberpunk technology without the dystopian overtones?

@Goldenself

7 ай бұрын

I mean, it's a start up. They want to pay back their investors and send their kids to expensive colleges. Of course they hope this technology is used socially and commercially. Besides, it's a picture frame. If you're trying to sell picture frames, maybe making it easy to add and edit the photos would be smart? People in this century use wi-fi and the cloud for that.

@JD2jr.

7 ай бұрын

I came to say that and how even though the "cloud" seemed to be used reasonably, he should know better than to use that terminology because of the red flags... Then he went on to talk about how their features were a "subscription service" but "there are still free things that you can use"... 'Freemium' isn't inherently evil, but it's only good for providing a free service while still bringing in revenue to support it. Something this expensive should not also be paywalling things.

@anon_y_mousse

6 ай бұрын

@@Goldenself I adamantly refuse to use the cloud, which just means other peoples computers and thus you allow someone else to have rights to your data. Wi-fi is fine, a cable is better, but it'd be best having an SD card slot. People in this century should wake up to the dystopian future we're going to have because idiots give up their rights to "cloud" companies.

I wouldn't call that holographic. That would be more of a 3-Dimensional image suspended in the air by a particulate medium. This is a just electronic lenticular 3D, but one with a super high quality image. Still awesome to see, but not holographic.

This "holographic" display is as holographic as those "hoverboards" are hovering It's closer to a 3DS display, but the picture changes as you move your head.

@ulischmidt03

7 ай бұрын

Basically a lenticular lense on top of a display, not that revolutionary.

@FryGuy1013

7 ай бұрын

It's a light field display.. That's what a hologram is, by definition. Sure, it's quantized into discrete viewing angles, but that's like saying a monitor isn't a display because it's just a bunch of pixels.

@anon_y_mousse

6 ай бұрын

@@FryGuy1013 Yeah, those comparisons are inapt, and a true hologram doesn't depend on viewing angles to work. So no, a lenticular lensing effect isn't holographic.

@ulischmidt03

6 ай бұрын

@@FryGuy1013 its more like saying an astroid isn't a planet because it's not a spheroid and doesn't have a clear orbit around the sun

@0x1EGEN

6 ай бұрын

It is a holographic display, not volumetric.

No way! They invented a Nintendo 3DS that cant play Zelda? Thats so cool!

I'm annoyed by new cameras. Making things clear in front and fuzzy in the back like they're a mile away. This just seems to be more dramatic 😆

@TheStickofWar

7 ай бұрын

That's just software mixed with focusing, called the Bokeh effect. You can take the shot without it if you want to.

@tatianaes3354

7 ай бұрын

@@TheStickofWarit is a curse for photographing just like motion blur in gaming, a stupid fad to make photos and videos not show much, leaving no details but keeping it all smeared. You can not see where the person is standing, what is happening. But yes, it can be switched off, thankfully.

I wouldn't call this a hologram. It is a 3d picture frame. When I think of holograms, I think Star wars holograms. A picture projected into 3d space without the need for a screen or frame. Calling this a hologram would mean that the Nintendo 3ds was a holographic projector.

@D-S-9

7 ай бұрын

We were told there would be holograms and hoverboards when we were older. At least we got the names.

@dilipdas5777

7 ай бұрын

Volumetric display in free space is impossible thing.

@NextToToddliness

7 ай бұрын

A person who understands the scientific principles of holograms would definitely call this holography.

@monkeyabout1297

7 ай бұрын

Actually... Smart ass...This is exactly a hologram. Did you know if a hologram is broken both pieces would still retain the entire original image. No matter the size of the pieces.

@rsalbreiter

7 ай бұрын

I hope one day can get ones that are basically a see through box or picture frame. The tech is growing but likely will never reach our Sci fi fantasy

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@ManaBDew

7 ай бұрын

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@ManaBDew

7 ай бұрын

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Its neat but not a hologram. We all know what holograms are.

How is this any different from the Nintendo 3DS display? We have seen this technology before. It has nothing to do with holograms.

@luluismo

7 ай бұрын

3ds require camera tracking your eye and display parallex image to the direction you are watching. if you try having 2 people in front of 3ds you can break that system. this one it doesnt track your eye, and you can have many people watching from different angle

@0x1EGEN

6 ай бұрын

It is the same tech actually. The reason the 3DS uses eye tracking is because it's not fast enough to render from every single perspective.

This is not a hologram !

Everytime someone says , Looking Glass, i start to sing Stone Sour - Through Glass

Still waiting for real REAL holograms, i.e. display and camera that will recreate captured electromagnetic field slice without loosing phase information (which actually can be impossible).

No favorite things of 2023 this year? :(

These promotional video never have innovative way of showing the depth effect, it’s simple, show side by side footage of 2 camera angles, one left one right. Then put a flat image of the same size next to the device. Play a hologram on the device that start as an identical flat image, then the display fade in the animated depth effect

3DS hello????! Nintendo, 2011???? After 10 years, resolution and viewing angles havent changed at all. Same. Literally. Until today the 3DS is stunning to look at. With! integr. Camera to make stereo pictures. Less than 100$. plus you can game on it ;)

I mean, based on every demo I've seen, while this looks cool, it seems like more of a party trick. I have yet to see any truly wide-angle-range 3D content shown on these. Not to mention, the term hologram has a very specific scientific meaning, and we should stop over using it for things that are simply lenticular displays. These are simply NOT holograms any more than Microsoft HoloLens displays are holograms.

"holographic" is such marketing bullshit. its them same technique with the printed 3d pictures, that have a layer above them with a bunch of small "prisms".

No, not real holograms. Why even ask, just for views?

But I ordered Star wars

Its no accident this is phone shaped. Someone is fishing for patent rights money, cant blame them.

Damn, the kid from Indiana Jones Temple of Doom has come quite far 😬

@DevinGates

7 ай бұрын

He works for the Time Variance Authority, so couldn't make it here

This is not a hologram it's a volumertics display

not sure what those guys are doing...but we got that in samsung phones like 10 years ago , its nothing new or special really, and also its another junk that wont work when they shut down servers its just not eco-friendly, we already have a display with a battery and tilt sensor its called a phone..

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This is not holograms that people expect to have one day or atleast hope we can figure it out. This is just a Pokémon Holographic card on steroids.

first?

These are barely 3d pictures not holograms. This is just BS marketing.

This is a disappointing gimmick. This company is going to crash and burn. They took a high resolution screen and threw a lenticular lens on top of it.

Once I helped two guys make a program for iPhone for clear shooting. Before this, they could not solve the stabilization problem for more than 2 years. I solved this in 5 minutes.

All this is a fad with little or no practical use.

There you go… nft…ughhh

The gayest cellphone you've never seen

With everything that's happening in the world who gives a crap about this what's wrong with you people

Stop calling these 'holograms'!

More 3d crap we dont need. Doesnt anyone get that its not a hologram, its just useless.

Looks more like an 3D picture in a device . To me holographic projection, is a object or form produce by a beam of light particles without the need of a canvas .. All trekkies should know that, it's only logical 🖖😁

talk to Yamaha and Vocaloid, the have been using holographic technology for years now. the fact you talk about holographic device and never talk about does already at the edge of the developping technology. It sound bias from you to only encourage Looking Glass and no other device or company also in the field. I believe such technology would be better serve if all the actor would received there proper exposure.

Oh. Not really impressive is it? And pointless.

A hologram and yet it’s designed as an iPhone that shows the exact same photos as an android while also butchering the very thought of what Hologram/Holograph stands for. Is this a joke?