I'll have to get you one of my loose tenon jigs Tomasz! 👍

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Yes seen them, they are quality👍

@marklynch8781

Жыл бұрын

Good to see you looking into this type of jig, Peter. Another version is available on AliExpress at very reasonable prices.

Nice tool! I’m impressed by it. Good analysis of the issues you identified. Thanks!

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Always try to share all my findings to the best of my abilities 👍

Thank you for the review and highlighting the minor issues with the jig. I think it is superb and as you say most suitable for the DIYer and occasional use. Cheers 👍😎🇦🇺

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly for watching 👍

Great review, mate. It's always nice to see alternatives to very expensive tools. It's not perfect, but nice to see the options and get a good review without paying out myself. Keep it up.

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, choice is what matters, shame that Festool totally owns the Domino idea. But hey maybe one day we will get something similar in a reasonable price.

@kanedNunable

2 жыл бұрын

and only about 900 quid cheaper than a domino

@warrensmith2902

6 ай бұрын

Yep.

I saw an ad for one of these on instagram for like $7 ha so I had come check out the real thing. Mate this is so cool!

@CasualDIY

Жыл бұрын

For $7 it's a scam for sure mate.

Yea I’m ordering one now, been looking at them for awhile.

Having on my shop a Lamello, a festool and a Hoffmann dowelling tool, I've found this as a very useful addition to my machines becausee it cando what others can't, like dowelling narrow stock with small pins, or making two or three holes close to each other, etc., so I can say, in spite of the sliding depth stop ( just don't overtighten it! put a small piece of material to fit snugly on front of it) is a very well made jig. I'm happy with it!

@CasualDIY

Жыл бұрын

Exactly, it does have many other helpful uses.

Fantastically honest video thanks bud 🙏👍.

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching 👍

Thanks for the info on this jig and the demo.

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly for watching 😁👍

Great review Tomasz. Thank you.

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching 👍

I bought this jig and have just received it. I also have the Loose Tenon Jig from 10 Minute Workshop/Peter Millard. I tried both jigs using the same bit, an Amana bit with a 1/4 in shank and 5mm bit. The goal was to use standard Festool Dominoes 5mm thick. The TianLi Jig arrived, and looked great--all anodized, no play in the parts that move, I was expecting the TianLi jig to work well. I tried it out, and found that the holes it made had too much play when inserted the dominoes. I set up Peter Millard's jig with the exact same bit and was able to make snug fitting holes for the Festool dominoes. I think with the TianLi jig, there are too many interfaces between parts of the jig that allow small imperfection to add up and allow the bit to enter the workpiece at some angle off of 90 degrees. That creates a socket for the domino at a non-90 degree angle, and the jig drive the bit into the wood slightly off square, which means the domino is loose, not snug. This jig might work if you custom create your own dominoes specially fit to the size of the whole your bit makes--but don't expect a 5mm or 0.25 inch bit to create a bit exactly that size.

Magique. Merci pour cette vidéo EXCELLENTE. Outil génial et je vais regarder votre chaîne que je découvre. MERCI.

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Merci beaucoup, oui c'est un bon outil 👍😀

Information very useful, nice job my bro!

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍😁

Great review, might have to invest in one 👍

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

It's a solid jig 👍

Good review Tomasz, I have seen these before, but I’m waiting to get Peter Millard’s LT jig 😁.

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Yes Peter made a great jig I have to say 👍

Well reviewed tomasz it's a cheap alternative for a DIY er a grub screw in the depth adjuster may work with an Allen key drive so you could tighten it a bit more and maybe a clamping device to hold it steady but a good buy for the amateur

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Yes the issues can be rectified. What I do like is its fairly simple to use and it works 👍😁

Hi Tomasz, nice review, bit too pricey for my efforts in woodworking but nice idea and maybe with a bit of refinement and a price drop I might be interested in one.

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Yes best to wait for a sale 👍

Its a gr8 concept, just needs a few tweeks. Excellent review and video

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you kindly, yep seems to be a solid jig. Hopefully overtime it will come down on price and be a better value.

Nice review mate, however for that price I am glad I got an alternative way to do things at a cost effective weight in my pockets. I have a Triton dowelling jointer, does have some con's to it like all do but when adjusted is a great addition, and will do single or double dowels. You will not be disappointed with it. Used correctly it will make your work easier especially on mitre joints and angles. The biscuit jointer is not defunct, but used to keep timber aligned in glue up when I want specific flat pieces of work such as tables or work tops in a fitting. For a tenon I will use my drill press with mortice attachment and square chisel set to do the mortice hole and band saw to finesse the tenon part... Give a Triton dowel jointer a try out, you don't need dominos in life, dowels are cheaper to purchase and make.

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Yes I was thinking of getting it actually. As the Festool is way out of my reach, the Triton seemed as a good solution. I actually watched a video that showed that the dowel joint was actually stronger then the loose tenon. But now with this jig I can actually do both, the mortise for loose tenon and accurate holes for dowels. However as I love tools I will probably end up getting the Triton anyway 😂

@philbrandon0532

2 жыл бұрын

@@CasualDIY I am sure the justification warrants the purchase 😂😂😂 And the Triton is built for heavy hands 👊

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

@@philbrandon0532 well that's good to know 😁👍

Mine is from a different vendor. Doesn't have the self centering feature. It only took me about an hour to set it up for 6mm loose tenons. The router stays in the jig. By walking it L/R of center a bit, and re-plunging it, you can create loose joints as well. I had to create a jig to trim down the standard 6mm Domino style tenons to 28mm from 38mm. Works well for parallel and L type joints. I don't want to remove the fence (Haven't make a jig to reset that up again) for doing mid panel joints. There's still a place for dowels for those joints.

@CasualDIY

6 ай бұрын

I do have a nice doweling jig now and I find myself using it far more often than this mortising jig. However I still want to try out the Festool Domino... maybe one day

Bit of sandpaper under the fence to help it grip? Replace the depthstop thumb screw with an allen head screw so you can tighten it up more firmly?

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Yep these are all good upgrades 👍

@katabrontes

2 жыл бұрын

@@CasualDIY Take care not to strip the thread if you tighten it too hard. An alternative (and an improvement for the maker to consider) would be to drill out the thread and fit a stainless steel helicon thread insert which would cope with higher torque without stripping.

Interesting bit of kit. Seems pricey for occasional use and, perhaps, not good enough for serious use - but interesting!

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I think the price could be a stopper here, however if it will come down over time then it could be a viable option👍😁

I just watched a video where he made a jig to accommodate a ryobi 18v palm router with a 6mm up cut bit and it seemed to drill the holes with more ease than this and no issues BTW this is the second review i’ve seen of this product and yet the product is still out of stock so you can’t even purchase if you wanted to

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

I would email the seller on ebay, I think its still in the concept realm.

NOOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Yep👍😁

A half tenon length 'bridge' to fit in front of the depth stop might eliminate the stop problem, and would make accurate repeatability easy, I've imported lots of stuff from North America the hidden costs can eat you up for example (price converted from Can $ to £'s) £185 in the UK (inc shipping) probably plus 6% import duty, 20% VAT and an import clearance fee, so probable total cost around £250, that might be the killer for this jig, at least until the Chinese clone it and sell it for £50 delivered on Banggood ;)

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

That's the problem with all the tools from abroad. There's so many great brands in the US and some how they are not present here in Europe. And if you wanted to import something, then as you said the taxes will kill it.

@vh9040

2 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure the jig is already a Chinese clone

Y si lo venden cuánto costaría ese producto?

Would it not be easier to clamp the jig down? At 5:20 in the video the jig and wood are both pretty close to the end of the bench already, a nice big clamp could perhaps hold down both the jig and the wood to the bench. There's a comment suggesting that you put sandpaper underneath, but I think that could scratch the aluminium over time - a piece of rubber anti-friction cloth (not sure what it's actually called) would be a better bet in my opinion.

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

I think the clamp would work just fine. As long as you got a bench you can easily clamp it down. As I said after getting used to it it wasn't a big problem. However if I had a cordless router then yes I would just clamp it down.

@allimco419

9 ай бұрын

For this purpose, there is no need to clamp the preparation. It is completely sufficient to stick sandpaper on the bearing surface (then its thickness must be added to the thickness of the material to find the exact center)

Its a great idea, but the cost is a fair bit and pretty much the same as the Triton doweling jointer, which being a self contained unit, doesn't require the additional router so possibly more cost effective for some? Sadly I can't afford either but if I could i'm not sure which way i'd go with that one...lol

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

I know exactly what you are saying. One to hope for some discounts in the future 👍

Y ese producto está a la venta? POS que está muy bueno para tenerlo como apoyo para trabajar.

@CasualDIY

Жыл бұрын

El enlace a este producto está en la descripción de este video. 👍

Seems like it moved a lot on your work piece from side to side even you pressed quite hard on the jig. Any idea how to prevent that?

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Initially yes it did move on me until I got used to it and knew how to hold it. But a simple clamp would do the job. Just clamp the jog to the work piece and you are golden 👍

Can you work downwards to minimise the problem of holding it firmly?

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

You can however you still need to hold firmly when the bit goes through your material.

Hi, I'm interested in that mortising jig for touter. Could you tell me where or how I can get it?

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

There are some links in the description of my video 👍

Классное видео. Приспособление замечательное. Подскажите где можно купить эту вещь?

@CasualDIY

4 ай бұрын

Link in the description of the video although not sure if its still working as this video was made few years back.

What Makita router model does this jig work with?

@CasualDIY

3 ай бұрын

Any router that's 65mm diameter.

Looks great what is the size of the router grip ?

@basilloizou1942

2 жыл бұрын

Or router brands that fit that jig

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Any spindle that's 65mm

Checked out those links listed ..not available at all..

Can we use this jig with Milwaukee 2730 ? Thank you

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

If its 65mm in diameter then yes

@DeddyJingga

2 жыл бұрын

@@CasualDIY Great jig. Love the idea.

It is available for Australia purchase

@CasualDIY

10 ай бұрын

I don't know, check out the links in the description of thus video 👍

Really like the review and idea. However, the jig itself is not cheap and more expensive than a (e.g Makita) biscuit joiner. So far, I would do that on a router table or a guide for the handheld router. So the jig is nice, but priced at a point were I would probably either buy a biscuit joiner or the domino. 🙋🏻‍♀️Anna

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Yes and that is exactly what I pointed out. If far cheaper then the Domino but still not super cheap for an average DIYer or weekend woodworker. However if you can get it on offer then it could be a solid option.

@JasonSipe16

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, but it isn't fair to compare a floating tenon to a biscuit. Not in the same league. I posted a video that is a closer alternative to this: the Triton doweling joiner. I think Tomasz's review here may have converted me away from the Triton.

@jasonandersen5975

Жыл бұрын

@@JasonSipe16 exactly. A biscuit align the joint in glue up, but offers little, if any, strength to the joint itself.

@CarlYota

Жыл бұрын

I think the real competition isn’t a biscuit joiner but a normal router that you already have and a free ten minute build jig made of scrap. Is it faster than clamping your jig? Yes. But the jig is free, not $400. Unless you already have the two routers it works with and the bit. But it’s till $250 vs a free jig. The domino is a professional tool for people that do it so often the time savings adds up to profit. If you’re a hardcore “woodworking is my only hobby” and you make projects filled with loose tenons then it also makes sense to get a domino. I don’t see a huge market for a knockoff that isn’t exactly like the domino. We already have normal routers with jigs on the low end and dominos on the high end. The middle ground doesn’t make sense to me. Either time is money to you or it’s not. I’d rather a hobbyist buy a quality hand plane than this jig.

Where do I get one in Australia 🇦🇺I have been looking but can't find

@CasualDIY

Жыл бұрын

Sorry but got no idea. Did you try to message the seller from my links?

@eliashorish175

Жыл бұрын

@@CasualDIY yes to expensive to sent to Australia

@eliashorish175

Жыл бұрын

Thanks anyway mate 👍

Onde posso comprar essa peça

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

The link is in the description of my video 👍

Salut comment peut-on acheter cette machine j'ai vraiment besoin de ça je suis actuellement au Liban ???

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Bonne journée! Vous avez des liens vers le site Web des vendeurs, avez-vous essayé de lui envoyer un e-mail ?

@sportfoot6341

2 жыл бұрын

Je n'ai pas le lien du site si c'est possible envoyé le moi

Think it will ever be in stock?

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure, did you email the seller?

where can i buy like that

@CasualDIY

Жыл бұрын

Link in the description of this video 👍

Is there a link to buy?

@CasualDIY

Жыл бұрын

Yes in the description of this video 👍

where can i buy those Jig ?

@CasualDIY

Жыл бұрын

There are some links in the description of this video

Wo kan ich diesen fräsaufsatz kaufen

@CasualDIY

Жыл бұрын

The link is in the description of the video

Thanks for the video Tomasz, great idea but not worth that money... If I had not purchased the Domino I would be getting Peter Millards version Check it out now... 😂😂

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Yes seen his great jig it's really good 👍

How do you order one

@CasualDIY

Жыл бұрын

There is a link in the description of this video 👍

Is this jig in amazon ????

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

I think its only on ebay and website, check the links in the description and just email the seller.

@mohsenaram9633

2 жыл бұрын

@@CasualDIY thanks so much

Doesn’t seem to be available anymore

@CasualDIY

11 ай бұрын

Well it was a while ago since I made the video, maybe there is a new version or something.

The fact that you need a specific router and it doesn’t come with the bit means this setup is effectively over $400. Now it has some advantages and disadvantages. If your domino breaks the whole thing is bricked. If your trim router breaks you’re only out 130 for a new router. You can also take out the trim router and use it standalone. It’s also pretty expensive and doesn’t have all the features of the domino and the tolerances and QC might not be up to snuff. Plus the festool patent expires next year 2024 so there might be a Bosch tenon cutter already engineered for all we know. As a hobbyist I’ll wait a year and see. I can cut mortises with a scrap jig and router as it is. And for $400+ I want a Dewalt/Makita/Bosch legit tool, not a small Chinese shop jig.

@CasualDIY

Жыл бұрын

I think there is a lot of people waiting for that patent to run out, including myself. Maybe we will finally see an affordable option.

Tôi cần mua sản phẩm này tại việt nam

Bagaimana mendapatkannya ?

@CasualDIY

Жыл бұрын

Link di deskripsi video ini

It’s not metric, any size tenon, deeper tenons, more bit options, they updated the depth stop, for me better than my domino for those reasons. Never use the angle feature, hate metric bits, hate limited sizes and short tenons, hate the cord and the vacuum hose.

I Saw a add for this jigg last week and that was only 50ish euro. The website looked sketchy though.

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

That's the problem with those site. However 50 euros would be a bargain for this jig

The guy that was making these sold his patent to a Chinese company. My question whether the knockoff will be as good as this one. If you have one hold on to it

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting 🤔

Sadly looks like this is not available now

Not convenient , it takes a lot of strength to hold, another useless thing for dust on the shelf :)

@CasualDIY

Жыл бұрын

Well as I mentioned in the video you can clamp it down and have no problem with holding this. You would have to be very weak that this would become a major problem.

@Voxa54

Жыл бұрын

@@CasualDIY, Well , if you just keep it , then you don 't need any strength . The resistance of the cutter has not been canceled by anyone .... I know this very well, after you make 20-50 grooves at a time ... throw it into it ;)

@Voxa54

Жыл бұрын

@@CasualDIY The more slots , the more tired your hands get , and the slots become as they should . and if it's not convenient, then it's really bad with him

@CasualDIY

Жыл бұрын

@@Voxa54 if you are a carpenter and you got a need to make that many slots then a Domino is a way to go as even with the hefty price tag over time it will pay itself off. However if you are a DIYer and don't want to spend so much money on a tool you will use occasionally than I think this is a good choice. And I agree with you after 50 slips with this jig you would be quite tired.

@Voxa54

Жыл бұрын

@@CasualDIY Ок

I think its rather a very expensive jig and is even not complete.

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I think at the moment it's bit on the pricey side

@RudiVDS

2 жыл бұрын

@@CasualDIY but it is a very good video

A review for a non continued product is useless...

@CasualDIY

2 жыл бұрын

At the time of filming it was available... How do you know its non continued? Just out of stock perhaps?

What are you doing with a video about a tool that you can't buy anywhere ? A video about something that is not for sale.

@CasualDIY

4 ай бұрын

Well I made the video when this was available. That was a while ago. I can't control what the manufacturer is doing unfortunately.

where to buy this?

@CasualDIY

Жыл бұрын

Link in the description of this video

Looks decent, but quite overpriced.

@CasualDIY

Жыл бұрын

Nothing else that's similar on the market I think 🤔