Honestly, Halo needs more APC style vehicles to make sense. If you think about it, even in an end of war scenario, throwing cheap thin armored warthogs and mongoose at the covenant killing many marines in the process doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

@blankblank8608

8 күн бұрын

Iraq and Afghanistan show that military government totally wouldn't send thin or non-armored vehicles into combat, that can be taken out by a single cold war era grenade, leading to a bureaucratic overly compromised platform as the Bradley IFV that is also used as an APC. Noooooo. Also didnt the Halo Wars game have an apc in addition to the tanks and warthogs?

@christopherconklin281

8 күн бұрын

@@blankblank8608 The US knowingly sent our troops to die in both Iraq and Afghanistan only in the middle and later years did we "learn" from our mistakes and up-armor our humvees. The many lives lost cost the US, and later turned into the development and implementation of the JLTV, an up armored competitor to the outdated humvee. Additionally yes, The UNSC Spirit of Fire has "the Mastodon" APC and "the Bison" Cryo APC. Both have Very Limited use within the UNSC and same with SGT Forge's Armored Warthog these adaptations were made after seeing how many lives were lost due to under armored vehicles during the human-covenant war.

@chipsdubbo112

8 күн бұрын

Too bad looks badass

@Kisseyhersh123

8 күн бұрын

@@chipsdubbo112 looks badass when my best friend's brains line the dashboard AND the entire windshield

@chipsdubbo112

8 күн бұрын

@@Kisseyhersh123 Should’ve been in the Player’s warthog

Antenna was originally meant to extend the range/radius of your radar.

Seems like the people who really care about the franchise at 343 Studios are doing what they can right now.

@ToaDrakua

8 күн бұрын

Digsite is majority fan driven, though some 343i staff are responsible for both providing content to sort through and organizing the endeavor in the first place.

@MachFiveFalcon

8 күн бұрын

@@ToaDrakua Thanks for the info - makes more sense now.

@AvatarJian

8 күн бұрын

Lol

The APC is so cool! I really wish we got more transport vehicles in Halo, so we can have the ability to carry whole teams, even in BTB, or do some cool stuff in custom maps and gamemodes or in machinimas.

@gifthorse3675

8 күн бұрын

The warthogs should be more armored with doors

@zachboyd4749

6 күн бұрын

​@@gifthorse3675 "Hop in my car, it don't have any dooooooooors. It's built like a cat, it lands on all fooooooours. My car's like a puma, it drives on all fooooooours."

The APC was wasted and could’ve been very cool

2:54 honestly the vortex equipment, if it were given some buffs, would have been a really cool thing to have in multiplayer. I think the deflecting grenades thing is the coolest.

That vortex equipment sounds like fun! I imagine throwing this at players near the edges of maps, or on a bridge, so they fall to their deaths lol. It's kinda like a throwable repulser

@VoodleBand

7 күн бұрын

profile pic checks out

@_HypeR_7

7 күн бұрын

@@VoodleBand lol it's actually the same thing too! This is my halo 3 emblem. :D

@protocetid

7 күн бұрын

Digsite said it’s supposed to pull and trap things into its orbit, don’t know if the Digsite crew messed up some values in the code or something

@_HypeR_7

6 күн бұрын

@@protocetid ahh well I still see how that would still be great fun! Just yeet it over at someone you don't like, and chuck a couple of nades, and it's like guaranteed kill/kills. *ᴵ ᶜᵃˢᵗ ᵇᶦᵍ ᵒˡ' ᵐᵃᵍⁿᵉᵗ*

It would have been sick to have the shade walker in the final build

@foxwithagun2540

8 күн бұрын

It is SO DAMN SLOW and a pain to maneuver

@NareshSinghOctagon

8 күн бұрын

@@foxwithagun2540 ,well,it is just a way to make a portable mounted machine gun,with the added bonus of slight terrain travellng ablities.

@Eizh

7 күн бұрын

Honestly... it looks bad, not a Covie style to be honest. They should have made the Locust and keep it as the Mantis counterpart.

@asimplepie2279

7 күн бұрын

@@Eizhwhat’s funny is that the original shade turret from CE had concept art of it walking around on those 3 legs. So this was bungie trying this concept one more time. Scarabs have legs, why not shade turrets?

@Eizh

7 күн бұрын

@@asimplepie2279 I know that perfectly well, i also thought those things were working like that the first time i played CE. And even Mega Construx tried to make the same turret but for the UNSC, which could be deployed in the same way as the HEVs, still it doesn't mean the turret doesn't have a very bad design that stands out from the Covenant style, im better off with the classic Shade that don't move.

Halo 2 plasma canon was the best plasma canon.

@sgtpaloogoo2811

Күн бұрын

Yes

It must be said. Thank you, 343, for your continued support for modders. We really appreciate it.

@DioStandProud

6 күн бұрын

All they're doing is combing through the old files, cleaning them up, and making them accessible. Not so much of a service as people on PC were finding these things the moment MCC on PC released.

@pierreo33

5 күн бұрын

Thank you, 343, for ruining Halo.

@nukacolacompany2534

4 күн бұрын

@@pierreo33Yes and didn't they claim to hire people who hate halo?

@nukacolacompany2534

4 күн бұрын

@@DioStandProudThere's a lot of low effort additions to gaming lately, I miss when DLC and updates added quality content but now everything seems recycled and lazy

@nukacolacompany2534

4 күн бұрын

@@DioStandProudThere's a lot of low effort additions to gaming lately, I miss when DLC and updates added quality content but now everything seems recycled and lazy

The vortex equipment even deflects fuel rod

2:59 think fast, chuckle nuts!

Bungie missed the opportunity of a lifetime to get the Gravity Gun in their games before Half-Life 2 did it. All the elements are there--343 Guilty Spark in Halo CE, and the Fist of Rukt in Halo 2, this vortex equipment/grenade that pushes away objects, and the later Promethean grenade that sucks objects in. Mind you, Ratchet and Clank had the same opportunity.

@Eizh

7 күн бұрын

Theres a gravity gun in Turok Evolution man

@eddiejay9407

7 күн бұрын

Halo 2 isn't known for inventing the gravity gun, it is known for having the gravity gun IN it.

@3mpt7

7 күн бұрын

@@Eizh Cool. I can't buy a digital copy anywhere. Looks like the gravity disruptor only works on enemies, not physics objects.

@rattleboned

6 күн бұрын

Thing about the gravity gun is that a lot of the game is designed around it-HL2 being the game Valve showcased the physics capabilities of the Source engine, Bungie would've had to design the game around using physics options to make the gravity gun even relevant

@3mpt7

6 күн бұрын

@@rattleboned Halo 2 uses the Havok physics engine, just like Half-Life 2. Enforcers in Halo 2 can also pick up vehicles and crush them, and the gravity lifts and bridges exist. Honestly, there's no reason for the Gravity Gun to not be in Halo. Ravenholm and the gravity gun launched sawblades chopping zombies in half? That's uniquely Half-Life.

The spike pepperbox actually makes a small appearance (kind of) In halo wars 2! the brute infantry uses them

The Shade turret walker looks like it needs to be redesigned. The turret is too small to justify six legs, and the legs are too large and inflexible to navigate the terrain properly. The Shade turret design from Halo CE with three legs looks more capable of walking. I wonder what a Scarab would look like with six legs? Edit: Also, as others have noted elsewhere, the gunner will have to cover their ears when that main cannon fires on the APC. When are we going to get a functioning Albatross in Halo 3?

@Eizh

7 күн бұрын

Nah its ugly, should be kept like this and forgotten, then wait for a playable Locust.

@thebrickccentric3728

4 күн бұрын

Only tangentially related, but according to another video, the Halo CE shade turret could walk as well, just with data hidden in the game files. Anyone know anything about this?

I really want that vortex equipment to be brought back in the next game or something. It just looks like it could lead to a lot of fun moments.

The vortex equipment is almost exactly like Ruby's rebalanced halo 3 mod the force flare since both have the same macanic of pushing things back.

@Titan13335

5 күн бұрын

Yeah, funny how ruby made that without knowledge that this even existed lol

shade walker a grunts best friend

If I ever make a halo 3 modded campaign, I'll include the shade Walker and vortex in them.

Vortex was what Guilty Spark uses in the mission "Halo" to push the chief back when he gets too close in gameplay.

It got wheels so by default Armored Car. If it's tracks then it's a tank for a certain role.

@JoysGameRoom

8 күн бұрын

APCs/IFVs can utilize both. Proper armored cars are a rarity as both types of prior mentioned vehicles do its role but better.

@The-Master-Chief

8 күн бұрын

Not really, some tanks do use wheels like light tanks, you can see this on many prototype tanks.

@NareshSinghOctagon

8 күн бұрын

As it turns out,there's actually no strict mention that a tank must have tracks or even a turret with a large main gun. If we only talk about the former,then the French have made several wheeled tanks,whilst a lot of gun based tank destroyers are bascially wheeled tanks. Armoured cars are under the APC/IFV umbrella due to them being used to fulfill both roles quite a lot,whilst APCs/IFVs can have tracks,and as the mighty half-tracks have shown,both.

One thing that always bothered me in Halo is the lack of automatic shotguns. We have automatic shotguns today, the Daewoo USAS-12, the AA-12, and more, and sure, they don't have the same kind of niche in our modern battlefield, but they'd absolutely be useful in space engagements when the enemy manages to board your ship - like in the first Halo level, the Pillar of Autumn. Close quarters like that really gives an advantage to shotguns, and having fully automatic shotguns would make a lot of sense. From a gameplay balance perspective, I can sort of understand - they already had the M90, which is pump-action, and in Infinite we got the Bulldog, which is semi-auto, so the role of the shotgun was already filled, especially when we look at the very small weapon sandbox of the original game, where every weapon had a specific purpose, but from a lore standpoint, it would make sense to have some evolution of the AA-12, or, given the series' propensity for bullpups, some kind of reimagined Pancor Jackhammer. They could even have it as sort of a power weapon, something you don't get access to often in the campaign and has special requirements to drop in multiplayer, maybe make each shot only two thirds as damaging as the base shotgun, and it would serve a solid role in suppression in tight spaces. Just my little pet peeve, I've always loved the idea of an automatic shotgun, so I naturally have issues when a setting logically could have them but doesn't.

@excellent_o_excrement2460

7 күн бұрын

the bulldog is pump action too not semi auto

@SerathDarklands

7 күн бұрын

@@excellent_o_excrement2460 Really? It's been a while since I've played, and I never really use the thing, but I don't remember there being a pump animation. Still, the point still stands, we have full auto shotguns today, and it would make sense to have them in the mid 2550s.

@elis7081

7 күн бұрын

​@SerathDarklands yup, the bulldog has a foregrip that you pump

@SerathDarklands

7 күн бұрын

@@elis7081 I'll have to keep an eye out next time I play.

@SerathDarklands

7 күн бұрын

@@elis7081 Okay, looking at the animation again, I see it now. I always just thought that was part of the Chief handling the recoil, not a separate part of the weapon's functionality.

3:48 Very similar to the antenna used by speedrunners to jump on the scarab on Halo 2, seen after dialogue "When I asked for reinforcements I'd never think they send a Spartan"

The Shade turret walker still looks rubbish with six legs---the turret is far too small to have so many legs, and the legs are far too large to navigate the terrain. The Shade turret in Halo CE looks like it can walk better with three legs.

And interesringly the wolverine did come back, but as a AA vehicle in halo wars.

This might be a long shot, but does anybody else remember a very early trailer for Halo 3 (before it came out) where they showed some multiplayer. And there's was this scene where, what I thought was an elephant (the vehicle) on the map High Ground. I've tried to find this for YEARS. But now when I saw this map and the new UNSC vehicle, could it have been this that I saw all these years ago??

@NairbNroh

8 күн бұрын

This vehicle was something made during very early development of Reach, and a lot of the blanks were filled in by the digsite team. I'll take a look through the ViDocs for H3 and see if anything odd shows up.

@williamsoderlund1404

7 күн бұрын

@@NairbNroh ah, I see. Yeah I’ve been looking through all the vidocs and haven’t found it. I remember it very clearly and for some reason I’ve been thinking about it for a decade 😅

I took a closer look at the Wolverine. It can't possibly carry troops and have room for all its own parts/fuel/ammo storage etc. It seems designed as direct fire support for infantry or as part of a larger armoured formation. They could have a few classic 'Hogs for light anti-air/infantry duty, maybe a gauss hog as well, then a Wolverine as the primary firepower. That small unit could screen ahead for Scorpions or Elephant movements or be a very deadly threat all on their own!

Soooooooooo much potential in MCC! Its so frustrating there's no modded game browser!

Awesome stuff, please bring back the puns!

Oh boy, new content, can't wait to turn on my Xbox again!

They brought the APC to Halo Wars 2 2! Nothing compares!

Nice video.

generalkidd is the only halo tuber i love

hoping someone one day with the shade walker make it move faster and more stick to the ground so its not flipping

Where do we go to access the digsite stuff?

Is it just me or the Wolverine APC looks like a MGS Stryker?

This is so [BLAM]-in' cool! And I would characterise the vehicle as a (really depends on cannon size, intended role/ammo type) self-propelled gun,light tank or Infantry Fighting Vehicle. It could be a troop transport but those typically have smaller guns in exchange for more armour, space/support for more occupants! Either way, really great stuff, it is very exciting seeing this obscure content

That walking shade turret should have been in game since CE and called "Arachne"

When is Digsite gonna release more information of the E3 Demo version of Halo 2? I really wanna play that!

The shade walker seems like it was inspired by the Geonosian Acklay monster in Attack of The Clones.

Shade walker reminds me of those Mantis you see in Halo Wars

Damn the Wolverine is really cool

The Spiker Pepperbox gives me Hammerburst vibes from Gears Of War 1

Why doesn't tanks have big wheels instead of tracks? Good question... The tires can be easily deflated in a war, which the tanks becomes useless to drive.

The Wolverine APC is basically just a Stryker.

how do you get these weapons to spawn?

There needs to be a handheld Halo 2 plasma cannon in SPV3

Ill just assume Halo does have APC but gameplay wise it woukd be either awkward or OP having a more mobile Scorpion or Wraith tank

Halo 3 still looks fucking amazing

Kinda strange how the UNCS never invested in artillery vehicles for large battlefields

GeneralKidd what is your accent? I’ve always wondered.

@chipsdubbo5.56

8 күн бұрын

I could be wrong but I think I remember him saying he has some rare Halo stuff that's not in the states. I think he's in China but I'm not 100% sure

@OJ9992

8 күн бұрын

@@chipsdubbo5.56 His channel info says he’s in America but I always thought he sounded Scandinavian.

@chipsdubbo5.56

8 күн бұрын

@@OJ9992 in the videos where you can see his face you can tell he is of some sort of Asian descent definitely not Scandinavian I know he had a video where he had like a special copy of Halo 3 or something that was I think for China I'll see if I can find the video and drop a link

@OJ9992

8 күн бұрын

@@chipsdubbo5.56 All these years I’ve wondered but only just now googled him, yeah he’s clearly Asian and his fandom wiki jokes his occupation as “apple watch maker” so yeah I’m thinking Chinese.

Awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Love Halo 3. Thanks for sharing!! God bless

The vortex is really cool

It looks like an LAV and a Styker had a baby

If you played halo wars the wolverine is supposed to be anti tank with a bigger canon than the scorpion and when deployed turned into artillery but otherwise everything else shown is pretty cool

That vortex equipment should have been in the game smh but this is exactly why bungie was goated pieces they have cut from the game didn’t meet thier expectations due too game balance but the idea was such a great thought this is why halo needs bungie back 343 could never compare their brainstorming to bungie because bungie always delivered from start to finish

does the pepperbox dual wield?

The Vortex is really cool. It's a shame it never saw the light of day, I can imagine the community would have had a lot of fun with it.

Halo 3 guest starring Twisted Metal's Minion

That apc looks identical to the Kodiaks from halo wars.

We gonna act like the spike pepperbox isn’t the Halo wars 2 brutes choice of weapon?

I love these types of videos, all discarded content should come back before porting a game or making a remake. Halo 2 had so many things that 343i could have remade in Halo 2 Anniversary as the vision Bungie had in 2004. Wish if they do a Remake of Halo CE or Halo 3 Anniversary is a complete Remake, we see redone levels, weapons, models, new ranks and extra cutscenes. P.S. I like that Spiker, it looks like the one from the Banished. should be added like the Spiker from Halo 2, knowing that Bungie wanted to add the Spiker and Mauler in Halo 2.

the APC only does the turret and cannon, not the body

Wish the wolverine was the halo wars version, with the grenade launcher small turret and missile launcher main gun

why is all this stuff only now added to MCC if its from early H3?

Iirc that antenna isn't new, hence why it's not mentioned

Honestly they need to add some of this to forge!

No forerunner tank?

Locust would be cool but halo 3 came out before locust was invented

Makes me wanna try to port the APC to Eldewrito, shouldnt be terrible

Halo2 stuff makes sense

I love Halo 3!

2:56 1 reverse card be like:

They need to release blood gulch. Halo 3 was the last good halo. They should start from there and make it better. Then upgrade it the way counter strike get upgraded (without major differences)

Imagine a halo modding community that treats the game, the same way the mod creators of G.A.M.M.A treats S.T.A.L.K.E.R

I wish there was an apc in reach

Isn't that apc destroyed in odst?

A tank, but with wheels.

Ported cut content was in early halo 3? Okay halo forge 2.5 like.

I might be wrong but the vortex equipment seems wrong If I recall correctly it was suppossed to attract both players and evironment (vehicles, equipment, props etc) for as long as it was active, providing an easy pick

All these years later, and he's still making this content. Like the cheese forever if any and all things easter egg. Also would be cool to see him cover other random titles like LA noire or resident evil 4. Or whatever

Where is the point in not bringing these (and others) to MCC on Xbox? I dont get it can someone explain?

@bloodgulchpatrick

8 күн бұрын

Point is that Xbox doesn't have Steam's Workshop infrastructure, not does Xbox MCC has mod support. What 343i and Digsite team are releasing is not something "game ready", rather tags that could be used and refined by mod makers for their proper mods.

@angelosil9985

8 күн бұрын

@@bloodgulchpatrick thanks

@angelosil9985

8 күн бұрын

@@bloodgulchpatrick would it be a huge expense for 343i to make these „game ready“ and put them in forge? I would make like a section „unfinished vehicles/weapons MCC“ and add all of these in there. I think nobody cares if they have accurate textures, proper function or destruction animation. People just want to have fun.

@Espartanica

8 күн бұрын

Nope, the "fan" base would cry out about Halo 3 no longer being like the original because "Even if I don't use these new options, others can". That's what happened when 343 started adding new armors to Halo 3, even with the ability to hide them on your side, people complained that others had the option to use them ​@@angelosil9985