Zagreus approaching Hades without any blessings has the same energy as when a Dark Souls invader comes into your world buck ass naked. You just know you're about to get your ass kicked so hard, you'll still remember it 10 years down the line.

@weissendrachen

3 жыл бұрын

Not if you stun them lmao

@femthingevelyn

3 жыл бұрын

@@weissendrachen youd have to hit them to manage that feat

@AltF-io3dy

3 жыл бұрын

I have ptsd form one dragon that ran at me with an exile great sword and like 2 other guys it was terrifying and I was gonna go moundmaker and just fuck around not even kill people

@femthingevelyn

3 жыл бұрын

@@AltF-io3dy when i first played one i used one of the gravelord signs before i knew what it was and i felt like i was in the eclipse from berserk and i still fear those things to this day

@lechking941

3 жыл бұрын

can i argu its a good thing im so shitty at the game? so i ahve yet to taste ANY of that pain.

Hades: Have you come all this way without any boons? Zagreus: Wouldn't you like to know, office boi.

@Entias

3 жыл бұрын

"Where are your parents?"

@ry4nmaster

3 жыл бұрын

Kid's sketchy

@abdoul5176

3 жыл бұрын

Ahh 1 to 1.1k 👌🏿

@Entias

3 жыл бұрын

@@abdoul5176 Ya love to see it

@romusa10

3 жыл бұрын

*shakes head in disappointment at the office boi

I think my favourite interaction in this game is using Hades' call against Hades! "Father!" "Son!"

@GhalanSmokeScale

Жыл бұрын

Hades actually gets annoyed when you do it repeatedly. xD

@ridleyisbored.5393

Жыл бұрын

"Father!" "Oh shut up."

@failtronic2646

Жыл бұрын

god i want to know what the hades call is but the fact i don't know means i haven't gotten there yet and should earn it AAAAAAA

@audriusfrankonis6862

Жыл бұрын

@@failtronic2646 Minor spoiler: Lets you turn temporarily invisible, fully charged also gives you a temporary damage bonus when you break the invisibility. Why yes, if you grab that and the Hades aspect of the spear, the boss fight is basically a mirror match.

@sebastiandj1881

Жыл бұрын

"FATHER!" "What?"

Hades in actual mythology: *Wife gone, think about wife... Regret.*

@Skishe

3 жыл бұрын

Didnt persephone return back to his side genuinely? Like she realized on hades' side was not bad

@cant-kb8lm

3 жыл бұрын

@@Skishe Yeah, I think so.

@KevinReijnders93

3 жыл бұрын

@@Skishe she does. She stays up on the surface for half a year, and returns to the underworld the other half. Her leaving to the underworld is what causes autumn and winter, while her return to the surface is the source of of spring and summer, iirc

@jeezuhskriste5759

3 жыл бұрын

@@KevinReijnders93 I thought it was Demeter causing winter because she was sad that her daughter was leaving

@CaptainRed1000

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeezuhskriste5759 You’re correct. Persephone’s role in the changing of the seasons is purely incidental. Demeter is the one actively doing the changing.

For real, Zagreus getting there without Olympian help is the biggest flex on EVERYONE

@MrMobiusfan

2 жыл бұрын

The only one bigger is to use the Pact to remove all of the power-ups from the Mirror.

@mangelsimonpaniello2256

Жыл бұрын

@@MrMobiusfan AND to get Hades to a third phase where he unleashes his ancient dormant potential. All three at once

@themightymcb7310

Жыл бұрын

@@mangelsimonpaniello2256 phase three hades is one of my favorite bosses of all time (excluding FromSoft)

@magnumbreakz

Жыл бұрын

​@@mangelsimonpaniello2256 wait hades has a third phase? I'm on my 50th+ run and i've never got it

@mangelsimonpaniello2256

Жыл бұрын

@@magnumbreakzif you don't like spoilers, you shouldn't really watch KZread videos of the game before ending at least all of the prophecies (achievements)🙃 But yeah, at a certain point you get to make the game harder for a reward. And one of the options is to make the bosses harder. Hades is not among them but at another point he gives you permission to use that option even on him. The lore explanation is that he has always given the fight his best, but once you activate that option he magically remembers/recovers some of his old strength. Third phase Hades is basically the guy who fought and killed titans

Hades: "What are you? An atheist or something?"

@spv4711

2 жыл бұрын

You can't be an atheist if you yourself is a God

@Jessamineann

2 жыл бұрын

@@spv4711 Sure you can! There are loads of people that don't believe in themselves.

@roma540

2 жыл бұрын

@@spv4711 Low self esteem want's to introduce itself, as well as it's Psycho friends...

@SethJV

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jessamineann :(

@Wertsir

2 жыл бұрын

@@spv4711 Prometheus: “Watch me”

Even such a niche and rare situation still has 2 sets of voicelines addressing it. That's Supergiant quality for you, there.

@AlexanderOz

2 жыл бұрын

SuperGiant's always seal of quality.

@dodeker7845

2 жыл бұрын

tell that to my playstation version full of crash. And the balance is far from being quality.

@youssefbencheikh8637

2 жыл бұрын

@@dodeker7845 I play it on the Nintendo switch and it didn't ever crash. I haven't run into any problem with this game.

@IceX92

2 жыл бұрын

@@dodeker7845 Just because you bad at it doesn't mean it's a bad balance

@boitata2617

2 жыл бұрын

To be fair sysphus gift gives a Nice bonus for not having any boon, so I guess they had more reason to expect such a situtation, still, Very cool of them to add the voicelines

One of the fun parts of the game being in early access was all the unique dialogue they added in to justify it and make it actually a part of the evolving narrative. For instance, back when the game ended after Asphodel, beating the Bone Hydra for the first time would get you some unique dialogue. The narrator comments that there's nothing else past that point and that we can just assume Zagreus inevitably dies, and you get sent back to the House of Hades. Zag then marches right up to Hades and lays into him about there being nothing past Asphodel, at which point Hades basically just says "alright listen here you little shit, you KNOW my realm is incomplete and under construction."

@ArcNine9Angel

Жыл бұрын

That is AMAZING.

@Nukesnipe

Жыл бұрын

@@ArcNine9Angel there was special dialogue for basically everything that was unfinished or got changed. The pact of pain used to be in Zag's room, and when they moved it to the exit, he commented on it not being there anymore.

@soridosuneku

Жыл бұрын

Almost makes me want to save up for a PC lolz

@vizthex

Жыл бұрын

and before the 1.0 launch, going through the door after this fight killed him and had the narrator say something unique.

@jojogacha974

Жыл бұрын

Pls give me a video of that

As stated by the fates: The son of the god of the dead shall die within 1.57 seconds to a battle with his father.

@avsomesso

3 жыл бұрын

Our tale of the Underworld Prince is far from finished. But the rest of it shall have to wait until another time.

@accountlol7409

2 жыл бұрын

Ha!See father!I can get here all on my own,now let’s fight! *gets slapped and dies*

@joshshrum2764

2 жыл бұрын

Zagarus: “Uhhhh uhhhh urughhhh w w why did i do that.”

@TornaitSuperBird

Жыл бұрын

@@avsomesso This comment aged wonderfully...?

@SirKrigeon

Жыл бұрын

*Taken by the Styx*

Interesting that he acknowledged the fact you probably did scum the pool of purging for these dialogues since it takes an enormous amount of luck to not get forced into taking a boon.

@TheGreatGario

3 жыл бұрын

It takes a little luck in Styx to not get a boon, but you can make use of the sales pool at the end of every area to clear yourself of any forced pick-ups and Hades will still have this conversation with you. I don't think it's possible to go through a run without being forced into at least a few pick-ups, but for the most part you can ditch them before you fight Hades.

@IronicHavoc

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheGreatGario I think it might be possible to avoid them entirely but not likely

@PhyreSpore

3 жыл бұрын

Even from the very first room, you'd have to reset until you got a hammer. Maybe from there, if you abuse the mirror talent that lets you reroll rewards and pick up every key along the way to refill it could you actually get through boon free.

@TheGreatGario

3 жыл бұрын

@@PhyreSpore when doing this i found that if a room wants to give you a boon you can reroll 'till the cows come home, you're gettin' a boon i doubt it's possible to do a run completely void of boons, you just gotta sell em' before getting to hades

@afmghost1759

3 жыл бұрын

@@PhyreSpore I don't think you can. Once Zagreus climbs out of the pool, a seed is decided. You cannot reset out of it, you have to play that seed

Zagreus: walks up to Hades Hades: *SNIFF*

@evakhaan

28 күн бұрын

а разве так не делают все отцы со своими сыновьями? 😮

I can't even reliably get past Theseus and Asterius _with_ boons and then there's this guy who made it all the way to the final boss without using a single one.

@jimtin8754

2 жыл бұрын

Twice

@wildstorm3486

2 жыл бұрын

He probably had to use a pool of purging a time or two. While it might be possible to have an actual run with picking up a boon. You would need a lot of luck.

@BezddRed

2 жыл бұрын

@@wildstorm3486 While it is very possible to make it all the way to the Temple of Styx without boons, it's just making to Hades because without those things to change the rewards, it's almost impossible to make it to Hades boonless.

@n7sorcerer419

Жыл бұрын

Sisyphus’ keepsake helps immensely. Boosts any type of attack you don’t currently have a boon for. That’s what I used when I did a no-boon run.

@kunknown2340

Жыл бұрын

I assume hoarding slash would work quite well with a no-boon run.

Giving hades a "Wouldn't you like to know weather boy" has to be the best zagreus has ever done

@potatospeedwagon3994

Жыл бұрын

Zagreus would be obsessed with Vine if he ever discovered it.

Dude i thought i beat him on my 15th run. I was so proud of myself. But then there's the second phase. Expectation : Gone Hope : Crushed

@callmetrigg5401

Жыл бұрын

Beat him on my 69th run, youre damn lucky there! (Even if if you couldn’t get past the second phase)

@Thundenix780

Жыл бұрын

@@callmetrigg5401 I was too lucky. I love Ares' boons. And on that run i uses aspect of achilles with duo boon merciful end. I was too lucky to be kept alive.

@Thebrokenrobot273

Жыл бұрын

That happened to me yesterday. Should have known there’s a phase 2

@jamesoakes4842

Жыл бұрын

Took me 26 runs the first time. Went back and played it on PS4 and managed to do it in 6, but I lucked into a pretty good Ice Wine build for that.

@Animalace3

Жыл бұрын

@@Infinitinity Was about to say that. When I set that on the Pact I was wiping my brow from just finishing phase 2 since I was on my second-to-last Death Defiance. Then, when Hades didn't die, I had such a gut sinking feeling when I realized there's a phase 3. I still pulled a win off, but just barely.

Something I’ll probably never achieve

@weebcraft6829

3 жыл бұрын

Try with the Sisyphus keepsake

@namepending5620

3 жыл бұрын

Probably isn't never

@iHeich

3 жыл бұрын

Ay, it's not that hard, the keepsake that gives you 100% damage if you have no boons attached to that makes it pretty easy

@Nyrkvennasogur

3 жыл бұрын

It's actually pretty easy

@xpokemaster1

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sad the only time I was about to do it, I got killed with Hades having 5% HP left

You just can’t get a compliment from this guy 😀

@parzival3632

2 жыл бұрын

If you beat him with maximum pact, he tells you not to tell this to anyone. I think that's as far as you can get for a compliment.

The first time I did this was also the first time I used Excalibur. So the unique dialogue for using Excalibur played over the no boon dialogue. I felt so defeated, even though I did it, without Hades saying it I felt like I hadn’t.

@adnox383

2 жыл бұрын

sounds like true Hades experience. Him not acknowledging your acomplishments

@lfernando831

27 күн бұрын

Does Hephaestus hammer not count as a boon?

@GlowSt_ck

26 күн бұрын

@@lfernando831 Daedalus hammer is a weapon upgrade so I don't believe that would be what gets checked to see if this dialogue will play. It probably only checks boons given explicitly by the gods

Man, I swear, half the fun in the game is feeling like you're actually in the game. Everything feels personal...the fun, the exciment, the anticipation, the annoyance, the relationships themselves. This is character desing done right in every way. Top 5 favorite game for sure.

@silverhawkscape2677

27 күн бұрын

Problem is that it's pretty vast. I can see why not many devs do this. Heck the game can put resources to this simply because it's a Roguelike.

@CrowFeatherQuill

26 күн бұрын

@silverhawkscape2677 good thing is it can only get better. Early access for Hades 2 is out. Have fun, my friend.

Hades: Ew you took the boons Also Hades: Ew you didn't take the boons Zagreus every time: 🥲

@kirakelvinart2169

Жыл бұрын

Just like my parents...

@thefatherinthecave943

Жыл бұрын

Wouldn’t be a story about an incredibly difficult parental figure without the double standards

@sur-shiner

Ай бұрын

Reminds me of Persona 4 when you're uncle asks if you want or coffee black or with cream

The delivery of the lines is SO good for both: "Yes I am that Strong", or "Pssshhh, No, I didn't pick up a Single Boon.... None at all... ;)"

bruh, the first time i got his health low for it to only shoot back up, my heart dropped... Still kicked his ass that run tho

@shiaeliminator6484

2 жыл бұрын

same, specially because I died to him twice before my 1 successful run

@DrakusLuthos

2 жыл бұрын

@@shiaeliminator6484 For me, I died to him on his first phase once, but was completely expecting a second phase when I beat him on my second time round since none of the previous bosses had one.

@ducanhluong918

Жыл бұрын

Use pact of punishment - extreme measures. You will be surprised.

I'm currently trying to get up to Hades without investing any darkness in the mirror, the fact that there's dialogue for not having any boons gives me hope that it's doable! xD

@prakrithkeshav9425

3 жыл бұрын

I know you get unique dialogue from the furies for going without darkness so maybe?

@peterchu5609

3 жыл бұрын

You can do that however I would recommend beating him a few times then going to the mirror and refunding your darkness using a key or use the Pact of Punishment to remove your mirror buffs.

@ndubitably

3 жыл бұрын

There's a first attempt run that the devs watch and comment on, so it is certainly doable.

@Nat_the_Chicken

2 жыл бұрын

@@ndubitably Yeah there are quite a few of those, fresh file speedruns

Zagreus isn’t cocky or brags about himself, but isn’t shy enough that he proves or admit that he is capable of something more.

This game deserves all the love that it has, it's truly incredible. There's unique dialogue for any situation, it's so good

"Doubtless you merely purged their blessings for some coin." -Laughs in Hoarding Slash Excalibur

Fun fact, it's implied that the Mirror of Darkness doesn't grant Zagreus entirely new power from Nyx, but rather allows Zagreus to focus his own errant power into tangible boosts within himself. So fighting EM4 Hades without Boons with a maxed out mirror is Zag and Hades both fighting at their max power.

@thebaseandtriflingcreature174

4 күн бұрын

...oh duh, it's a mirror, of course! never thought of it that way

what if you only have boons from chaos? they aren't an olympian.

@highhentaiexplosionfnorfen8857

3 жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure that my no-olympian run had a chaos boon, and i got this dialogue

@baergrills9980

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t think they’re treated as “boons,” given that they transform into a permanent buff once they’re gone. That, and because you can’t find chaos gates in Styx, you’ll never get to Hades with a chaos effect that hasn’t already transformed even if it does count as one during that period.

@dracosfire7247

3 жыл бұрын

You can have Chaos Boons, Hammers, and certain Olympian boons that can't be sold. I think the Dionysus one that gives you more HP each Nectar you find is one of those.

Did he actually just snort really hard?

@jck4482

3 жыл бұрын

I think he actually sniffed hahaha

@CidGuerreiro1234

3 жыл бұрын

He snorted *menacingly*

I watched this since I knew I could never achieve a no boon run 😅

@avsomesso

2 жыл бұрын

don’t give up the fight :)

Let's just say that pact of punishment [puts on sunglasses] took a TOLL on me

if you do this in max heat,instead of this dialogue Hades will kneel down crying and make Zag the king of the underworld

damn im amazed at just how much unique dialogue there is in this game that even includes such a rare difficult situation i don't think anyone would normally cross

@ANIMAL.LOVERS.DONT.EAT.ANIMALS

3 ай бұрын

Once i left the game running to sit back and eat some fruit, i thought "it would be really funny if there was idle dialogue but nah". then i resumed, bought an aphrodite boon from charon and she said "if youre QUITE done shopping there, you should get going"

Well, that was interesting, didn't think there was dialogues for this kinda of situation XD They really did a great work with this game.

For once I'd like to know what Olympus smells like

@webbowser8834

3 жыл бұрын

Ambrosia probably, IIRC the Olympians are drunk on that stuff 24/7

@vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450

3 жыл бұрын

I reckon very expensive air.

@fejknamn6853

3 жыл бұрын

@@webbowser8834 This! Broseidon even mentions that he has piles of the drink, but he mainly cares about the act of giving a sacrifice so he still loves it when Z gives him a nectat

@thepopulargirl1784

2 жыл бұрын

Sex, drugs, and olive oil.

@Ducken2g

2 жыл бұрын

cinnamon!

This is probably a good way to show that a relatively normal person without any Olympus aid can be capable of escaping the Underworld. Since it’s Zagreus’ job to try everything to escape the Underworld.

@edersonnico

Жыл бұрын

Zagreus isn't a normal person. Being the son of Hades makes himself an olypian.

@vitortoniolo4880

10 ай бұрын

zagreus is literally a god lol

@LordRaine

6 ай бұрын

Escaping the Underworld is extremely easy, you just don't look back and you'll be fine.

1:15 - cut to Zag wearing bling

I like how they accounted for both scenarios of how you could be boonless.

the game has lines for if you reached hades on the literal first run of the game what did you expect :D

You could probably actually pull together a win, by using the shackle since it gives enough of a boost.

I did about a million tries to beat hades with no boons just so I could see what dialogue I got for that. Sure wish I could get that time back.

@Gaze73

Жыл бұрын

You shoulda used youtube first.

wait, that second one, is Hades actually in support of Zagreus getting help from the gods? Or is it just a knowledge that if Zag beats him without assistance then it is definitive proof that Zag is better than him?

@avsomesso

2 жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly, he admits Zag is better than him but advises not to mention it ever.

Sisyphus:”This is where the fun begins.”

the dialogue was incredible for this game

Hades: "How the...How the fuck did you even get up here?"

this is why characters feel alive

Ah yes..... dialogue I would have never seen on my own.

This video is exactly the moment I have fallen in love with Supergiant. Hades is my first SG game and I've heard great things about the others I'm gonna check them out

Greg Kasavin be like: I see you, and I respect you

The fact that there's multiple dialogues really shows how much care they put in the game.

The true lesson of strength: Rejecting power that you don’t need. Relying on the power within you and getting only what you need from others.

Watching this because i would never reach Hades without boons

I remember getting this dialog! I would get so annoyed at how Hades taunts you for 'needing help' to get anywhere so out of spite I focused entirely on building up my weapon and Stats for a run. Felt so satisfying to win that Third Phase 'on my own'.

Honestly, one of the biggest challenges is trying to get to Hades with NO boons at all

I love this game so much.

SuperGiant really prepared dialogs for masochist players.

If you reach hades for the very first time without boons, I wonder if the dialogue would be different. Because here Hades says "No stink of olympus on you, THIS TIME".

I've been trying to do this for so long, and I'm glad to see there is actual recognition for it.

Its actually pretty easy to get 0 boon when facing hades, 2 spesific pact that force you to purge 1 boon when climbing and you take approval process that removes 2 boon option. and you deactivate talent that increased boon encounter. With optimal setup you can cycle through all boons that overide each other, and you can remove minimum 6 boons when climbing, not including random purging well encounter and if you get lucky with satyr chamber you can get even more purging well.

I wonder if there's a special line that plays when you never got any blessing - ever. Probably not, as these lines seem to be made to cover both circumstances (with the pool of purging obviously being the most likely one), but it still would be sweet if there was one for those who never even touched the blessings.

"Boonless."

WHOA! they made dialogue even for this?!?! I didn't even know you could do this!

It's funny to think that the olympian's boons smell, and apparently bad

I resent that, Father!

That Jazz reference tho

Hades: How tf did you survive? Zagreus: Wouldn't you like to know weather boy

finally a fair fight

Thanks for this.

A great boonless run to try is one where you make use of the Canon and roleplay as a mobile artillery unit during the whole run, Sisyphus brace max level and all boonless talents on the Mirror. *Time to go boom*

Little details like this is why Supergiant is one of the best game developers out right now.

I didn’t even know this was possible

I managed to get this dialogue with Guan Yu and Sysiphe's trinket. Also it works if you get Chaos boons along the way to help you a bit in this journey.

Nicely done I'd say.

I’ve just started playing this and I feel there’s no way I could ever get this dialogue naturally.

I can't believe someone did this. I CAN believe Supergiant had a just in case.

I fucking adore this game

Isn't there a unique line of dialogue if you get to the surface the first time you start a new save?

Dammit he knows about the game mechanics

That night or day not sure its hell ! Zagreus walked tall towards his father Hades without boons and received the worst ass whooping of his god dam life .... To never be reborn again ...

No boon runs, need sysiphus keepsake, max aspect (any save Guan Yu unless you're confident that you can fight Hades hit less), get keys whenever possible to get more rerolls, go Hearts, Coin, and Hammer, well of Charon is your friend. The ultimate No Boon Challenge would be ExM4. No one, not even the best have beaten Max Heat. If you were a demigod, you could beat it, if you were a true God, you could do it Boonless. Imagine Kratos faced with such a challenge

Incredible...

When I did it, I was running the Eris Rail and had the Shattered Shackle, which is quite a potent combo. If you're good at timing your dash...

This game is mostly a regular to above average game that the creators managed to make super ultra replayable by adding hundred times more dialog than any other game of this size would have. I feel like 80% of the effort went to making the pages of dialog and putting the conditions for them. Plus, that doesn't even sound like work, that sounds like fun

So cool!

I remember doing this multiple times. Almost lost everytime.

I came here looking for the dialogue of defeating *Megaera* without boons. Hades is fine too.

now approach without any health like i always did

First Dialogue: doubt Second Dialogue: *Bri'ish doubt*

Any special phrases after defeating him like that?

@avsomesso

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately no, nothing unique happens after you defeat Hades with no boons.

@iona2225

3 жыл бұрын

@@avsomesso Shame :/ missed opportunity that.

Lol, it never even occurred to me not to have boons.

did i just get 30 second unskipable ad?

He says one more line if you do it a third time, but only during combat.

What I love about these comments, is that all these people probably got to the point where they can reliably defeat Hades in almost every run, myself included. I love the skill curve of this game and how climbable it is!

Is there anything similar for reaching him without any mirror bonuses as well?

@szabolcsmurath

3 жыл бұрын

Just a unique victory screen message, I believe.

@zyrons5683

2 жыл бұрын

There is a unique dialogue for reaching him on your very first run from a new file (so technically no mirror of night boons). IGN devs react to speedruns shows it if you're interested.

@screamingcactus1753

Жыл бұрын

No, but there is unique dialogue when you reach the Furies without mirror buffs, and if it's Megaera and you beat her, you can actually get unique dialogue with her back at the house after the run

has anyone done a no boons no mirror run? that'd be absurd.

@ndubitably

3 жыл бұрын

Would this qualify? kzread.info/dash/bejne/iH-Z0shtmtzUZNI.html

I'm a little sad they didn't have unique checks for if it was truly no boon or if they were all purged in the previous room

These lines talk as though this isnt the first time that Zagreus has made it to the end. I wonder if theres unique dialog for being boonless on your first encounter with hades?

@avsomesso

2 жыл бұрын

There are no purging pools on the first run and you have you have to take the first boon. So, it’s not possible. Edit: Sorry I misread your comment, you didnt mean the first run but first encounter wirh Hades. In that case it could be an extra dialogue

Imagine if this was also the first time you ever won, losing every other time until you just said "fuck it I'll do it myself"

did kinda expect hades to be kind proud?

I didn't even know it was possible to do that

Supergiant games is super detail game devs, crazy good details