Had To Call A TIMEOUT On Stream Today
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RAXX mad respect for calling this out
@pureplay7071
2 ай бұрын
OMG lol
@2112jp
2 ай бұрын
In reality Diablo will get RAXX 80 page report and just toss them in the garbage. He needs to condense his issues with the game and stop being so picky if he wants Diablo to listen to his opinion.
@rasmachris94
2 ай бұрын
I disagree, knowing why something isnt working is more important than fixing it temporarily. If you know why it didnt work you wont make the same mistake. If you dont you'll run into again and again. @@2112jp
@mehmetabdullah250
2 ай бұрын
@@2112jpif they do it people will toss this shit into the garbage too, so they better dont
@whitemale3115
2 ай бұрын
Imagine having a double chin wearing the same hoodie everyday as your gimmick and making video games life
People calling out "nitpicking" on a PTR, for a game that has been in a more of a beta form for 9 months, rather than a complete game is just WILD
@blobblab3020
2 ай бұрын
Dont forget the billions and billions of dollars that they took from the people who believed in the franchise.
@stebe12
2 ай бұрын
Alpha would define it better. Beta is a stretch.
@captainwhey7382
2 ай бұрын
Some people are so starved for a decent experience that they’ll eat up anything. New and shiny blindness.
@fredwin
2 ай бұрын
This is the "fandom" of all franchises across every medium now. Feedback is not allowed anymore, only blind obedience.
@Rumpel-TV
2 ай бұрын
abso-fuckin-lutely
Well said Raxx, People complain about the game having issues, we are given an opportunity to fix those issues, big and small, but they tell you not to complain. People are just impossible.
@TheTuttle99
3 ай бұрын
How funny would it be if I started arguing with you 😂
@kensey007
3 ай бұрын
OK bear with me here, but maybe those aren't the same person.
@NK-yx7zn
3 ай бұрын
@@TheTuttle99😃😃
@bobbobb5759
2 ай бұрын
What if i told you....those might be different people.... !!! shock! horror! lel
@nickdee24
2 ай бұрын
They clearly don't understand the purpose of a PTR. They think it's some sort of ''early access'' thing.
PTR is exactly the time to be nitpicky; then you (hopefully) get a good game that you don't need to nitpick later.
@Jedda678
3 ай бұрын
Assuming the company actually takes your feedback. Riot's PTR for LoL actively has suggestions and feedback for Champs, both design wise and aesthetically and they don't listen.
@rotony1
2 ай бұрын
Yes but we really need to have a priority list
@czechultimatestyle
2 ай бұрын
D3 PTR was working out, why not D4 Blizzard are monkeys but i dont think they wanna lose all playerbase If they will take PTR seriously its a win if not. Dont play, simple as that
@pureplay7071
2 ай бұрын
That is what he already said...
@astraea926
2 ай бұрын
wow, that is what he just said. thank you for saying it again in a comment
D4 isnt at a level where we can afford NOT to be super nitpicky about everything.
That last bit was extremely important. Seriously what the fuck possessed them to forego having a PTR in the first place. Were people really complaining about him pointing out what he didn't like? Again, as Rax said THAT IS LITERALLY THE WHOLE POINT. Obviously the devs don't want testers being assholes about it, but you're supposed to be as critical as possible and try to break or find everything that's broken so it can be fixed before the season goes live. You really can't fix stupid, wow...
@everythinghate666
2 ай бұрын
they are called game testers and they used to get paid for it. betas and ptr's were more about stability tests and making sure new systems are functioning as should. so instead they fired all the game testers and now we do it for them by pre-ordering the game to get early access. time has already proven they dont care what people want. the logs they get from crashes and just people playing give them all the info they need. you're complaining on forums and posting issues is purely to get activity and interactions up. closing yourself in a box and calling everyone stupid is a pro move lmao
These are the kind of serious and nit-picking players that a PTR needs. Not the kind of people who join a PTR just to play with the new stuff before everyone else and dont help inprove the game.
@affirazer
2 ай бұрын
Why you call me out like that?
@Shanopla
2 ай бұрын
Guilty on count one your honor engaging in PTR without intent to provide any useful feedback, but not on count two of accusing of nitpicking.
Raxx singlehandedly fixing D4
@janniknielsen9292
3 ай бұрын
Guy wrote 40 pages during beta to Blizzard on how to improve D:I, and they completely ignored him. They are too arrogant to listen to competent people.
@janniknielsen9292
3 ай бұрын
@@AmayuOnx If they listened we wouldn't sit here almost a year after release after a beta phase with a game that is massively struggling, that it needs to borrow from other games, and their old game.
@sk8terfreak1100
3 ай бұрын
Honestly though I have seen a lot of what he has said be implemented into the game.
@Nick-tl7ts
3 ай бұрын
Oh god shut up@@janniknielsen9292
@Draik41
3 ай бұрын
@@AmayuOnx they've shown more often than not that they dont listen and 90% of the time it takes someone with a bigger outreach to get something changed. So stop hating on people who want their game to come out correct the FIRST time when input was given. You're the joke here.
Go off king
@jordan_goes_in4378
3 ай бұрын
Stop calling people king. Its cringe. His name is raxx and hes awesoms.
@alonelytuba
3 ай бұрын
@@jordan_goes_in4378go off king
@doakesanddrax
3 ай бұрын
@@jordan_goes_in4378get it king
@doomnotron
3 ай бұрын
@@jordan_goes_in4378 got it, King 🫡
@slaykittens
3 ай бұрын
@@jordan_goes_in4378You dropped this King 👑👌🏼
Half the people have never done a PTR. You are correct
@z0ned27
2 ай бұрын
What is PTR
@shadowyclip
2 ай бұрын
I'd argue the percentage is higher than that. I'd also wager its roughly the same percentage that will experience an issue/bug in a game and piss and moan endlessly about it but won't spend the 2 minutes required to fill out a bug report.
@nfefx
2 ай бұрын
Way more
@rasmachris94
2 ай бұрын
Public Test Realm - it's supposed to be testing for bugs, technical issues critiquing gameplay mechanics so that when it releases it's optimized fun and low chance of bugs. Basically free beta testing and feedback for Blizzard. But some people have been using PTR as an early access instead, not giving feedback and getting mad that people like Raxx are using it for it's intended use case. @@z0ned27
@orlanyu722
2 ай бұрын
@@z0ned27 practice test run
My biggest regret during the alpha/beta was saying “this isn’t that fun but it will be at launch, so I’ll come back when it’s ready” I wish I had given tons of feedback on the problems I saw then cause nothing got fixed
@LizardMammaryGlands
3 ай бұрын
As much as I agree with Raxx, I also don't understand how come a game development company needs constant feedback from players to properly develop a game. It's just nuts to me, that we are no longer just consumers, we are part of their development lifecycle. Don't get me wrong, I wholly agree with Raxx, because only an absolute idiot wouldn't. But the whole matter is really just fucked. They're really trying to salvage the game by leveraging what people want, literally asking them what they want, and as attentive as that may sound, it's still entirely absurd how out of touch they are with their own project.
@Benogan
3 ай бұрын
@@LizardMammaryGlands the problem is the people at blizzard don’t love blizzard games anymore. It’s a bunch of people trying to change the blizzard worlds to meet their world views or opinions on what’s good and there’s no magic in their games anymore.
@830927mjki
3 ай бұрын
@@LizardMammaryGlands The issue is that people will adapt to flaws and become blind to them. It's especially bad when you developed those flaws because that makes you so intimately familiar with them. Often it's only when trying to train others to use the flawed systems that you realise it would be easier to just fix them.
@danzfloor1
3 ай бұрын
I gave tons of feedback and said that the game needs at least 6 more months developement before it can be released. Got flamed in the forums 24/7 for that....don't bother, you only missed raging kids flaming you bcs you give constructive feedback to a game. ^^
@danzfloor1
3 ай бұрын
@@LizardMammaryGlandsmaybe you're to young but gamer feedback was always a thing in games, also in Diablo 2 back in the days. I mean why not.....100.000 eyes see more than 1000 and as bigger the game as more eyes are required. Game developement isn't as easy as you think and as soon as you change 1 thing 100 other things break. Plus who knows better what players want & enjoy than player themself? ;)
First of all, he's 100% right. Second, I love when he goes off on the stupids in his chat. More streamers need to check their 'audience' more when they speak nonsense.
Feel like people like that use PTR as just cheat codes to actually be max level and have good gear for once cause they cant do it themselves. People like Rax actually use the PTR for its designed purpose.
@troydanable
2 ай бұрын
Dude, i don't think you're wrong 👍
@vicc6790
2 ай бұрын
@@troydanable I do lmao who tf would do that? It's up for 7 days what's even the point of going on it just to play?
@troydanable
2 ай бұрын
@@vicc6790 bro you would be surprised, games do things to people man, 110% people will be grinding the fuck out of it and probably flexing their gear too lol. I literally know people like this 🤡
@rickardsvensson7097
2 ай бұрын
Well, to be fair. Getting best in slot and attempt to push and test boundaries is a part of PTR aswell. Its not all about bugs and glitches. But also to see if something is just to broken and shouldnt be in game in its current state.
@rekrn12345
27 күн бұрын
A lot of people treat beta tests like that as well. Like its just an early access version of the game when its designed specifically for testing.
110% well spoken, be precise, be thoughtout, more important document. I am old been around the pole once or twice.
@everythinghate666
2 ай бұрын
then you should get that they are called game testers and they used to get paid for it. betas and ptr's were more about stability tests and making sure new systems are functioning as should. so instead they fired all the game testers and now we do it for them by pre-ordering the game to get early access. time has already proven they dont care what people want. the logs they get from crashes and just people playing give them all the info they need. you're complaining on forums and posting issues is purely to get activity and interactions up. so you're why the pole broke
I was there on the livestream and totally agree with you, Raxx. Keep up the good work.
This is why normal people shouldn't participate in beta tests or PTR's. If they're not going to give constructive criticism and only look at these moments as a chance to play something early; then they're not helping anyone. Alpha and Beta tests aren't designed to provide optimal play experience - they're designed to work through possible issues and get as many things resolved and new things implemented before going live. This is why devs include automated data gathering with their betas now; because they know most users just won't even bother and barely understand how to put on their socks in the morning.
I love this. I watched this live and could NOT agree with Raxx more. You’re doing a great job Raxx. So glad you had so many live views today! Enjoy the Chick-fil-A 😂
Very well said tbh. Too many people just let things pass then still complain later
Raxx gonna single handedly fix the game for us. Like many have said, your time to shine bud! You're taking the platform you've earned and are using it to make change to a gaming franchise we all love. Kill it brotha!
Thank you, keep up the good work!
A lot of people need to understand that a PTR is for TESTING and reporting bugs, not just a free preview for the next patch.
You are absolutely correct and thankfully you are persisting in being right! Good for you, Raxxx!
Totally agree. I sometimes hear people tell me I’m difficult when giving feedback to business owners. You know what: they are losing customers whilst unaware of the reason. Tell them what’s wrong, they can triage which feedback they do/don’t address
Rax just kick those idiots. You a beast at what you do man. Just keep doing what u do
if we're being nitpicky; that's not how you do the timeout gesture. place your left palm ontop of the fingers on your right hand next time (or the other way around) the idea is to make a standing T for Timeout. what does your gesture signify though? I have no idea. a bridge? a mountain maybe? who knows.
Well said. You are doing what PTR is intended for. Give them feed back so when the PTR is over, they have like a month to make it right. Fix everything, buff or nerfs, where needed
The only thing I've seen that needs to change indefinitely is increasing the drop rate of cinders during helltide. Also, make NMD inside of the current helltide location drop cinders or have a chance to drop boss materials on completion...Thoughts???
Raxx of all the people I want to be nitpicky it’s you. This is your time to shine. You’re in the game. Go get em
The problem is that the base is bad. Nitpicking doesn't do shit at that point. The whole system with the legendary powers and all that crap just makes the loot not exciting. Period. I never thought they could make it worse than d3 and somehow they managed to do it.
And THIS right here is why I watch you. No bullshitting for views. REAL.
Im in IT and have to advice my management consistently when they say "dont for great go for good" that what we think is great is mediocre to them. Get things changed for the right reasons. Folks getting nit picky were probably the ones who didnt believe the scientists in the movie.
Its not they haven't been in PTR before but they use PTR as if its a demo for the next season rather trying to test and find those game breaking bugs along with testing itemizations and give them critical feedback on this. 100% agree with on this.
Gunna say it now. Whenever a youtuber says "better" what they really mean is "How i believe everyone should play the game because it helps ME" the PTR players that give several page long reports, that dont stream or make vidoes, are the ones that actually make the game universally better. People can jump down my throat all they want, but this is the truth. Its also why when any form of test is done and an NDA is involved that doesnt let them make videoes, they wont partake in it because they can't make money from it.
People are fucking crazy. It’s not just D4 but other games like the FF7 remakes, people will blindly defend the game for no gain. Like D4 is shit, let’s be real. I feel duped after buying it, playing for a week and uninstalling. I will not be coming back either unless it’s God tier. It’s too bad, because I haven’t watched a Rax stream either in ages❤
@Walhor
Ай бұрын
Yeah, it's wild people are defending bad games and their greedy shenanigans.
These are probably the same people who complained about Abitoir of Zir being too difficult...
A PTR is like whole division of game testers outsourced to the public for free. That's why ptr testers are super important!
Did I say I LOVE your passion here?! Cause I do!
It annoys me to no end when people see PTRs or Alpha/Beta as "Play early" instead of "test to get shit fixed for when it goes live"
I had to walk away from D4. It just wasn't doing it for me. But you are absolutely in the right here. PTRs exist, in any game, for the sole reason of being nitpicked to death and beyond. That's what they are for.
I agree 100% it's the ptr now is the time to crank that nitpick dial to 11. The whole purpose is to find, expose and ideally offer ideas to fix problems. The same people whining about being nitpicky on the PTR are the same people that get an invite to a closed alpha/beta and never even look at the forum/discord to provide feedback and just use it as a demo play through of a game.
It's not d4 that needs to change but the teams that manage projects at Blizzard. because all the triple as that blizzard has are all in decline
I just started playing D3 seasons with number 27. I don't recall if I tried PTR 29 or 30, but your description of the purpose makes so much sense. I know that any play can run the PTR, but having experience players a way to provide feedback is awesome. I hope that newer seasonal players like myself can learn from your PTR videos. Keep up the good work.
It's great that we have people like you helping to make the game better
It took them long enough to finally listen to what we’ve been saying from the start
Many ppl play on PTR or other beta versions of games like it is full and finished product, and not something that need to be tested. Its not only in Diablo 4, honestly its probably all games that was released as beta.
That's why you are the only person I subscribed for D3 & D4 contents.
PREACH!! honestly such a correct and down-to-earth take
Thank you so much for the time that you put into making a game enjoyable 💪😎👍
He almost got mad for like the first 10 seconds there. Lol.
You couldn't have said it better. That people have the audacity to say something like that, when they obviously have never given feedback to improve a game.
I appreciate the hell out of Raxx for being so committed!
Appreciate you doing the lords work ;) I really want this game to get good and we’re all lucky to have the community advocates we have 🙌
Preach it, brother Raxx! Doing the lords work.
Love it! He is spot on! I work in automotive and we have this same concept called a launch. If it's not resolved early on it takes a long time to address later on.
Thanks for the explanation, dad!
Thank god we have you, keep it up!!
Every single word Raxx said in this video is true The whole point of PTR's in an online game is for people to test it give feedback so the devs can make the appropriate changes and make the game/patch/expansion the best it can be So with the PTR be as nit-picky as humanly possible so the devs know what's good what's bad and what should outright be deleted
D4s redemption arc is coming, and Raxx is about to drive this thing home without a salary from Blizzard
We all just hope blizzard listens to you and the team. You’re doing the lords work here.
When a game is released, every stat and interaction should be viewed as a choice. Maybe the developers made that choice, maybe they overlooked it and theres a complaint. PTR is them saying these are our next choices, and if you arent contributing then youll get the stick when they choose wrong because they didnt get feedback. PTR != Exclusive early release for advertisement
Put me in timeout, Daddy (The "D" stands for Diablo; it's not weird, don't make it weird).
Same people being nitpicky about you being nitpicky dont read stream titles or anything else for that matter. As always thanks for working as hard as you do to make these games better!
I am always amazed that every day people prove that some are even more stupid than I would ever believe possible. A PTR is exactly that. A "place" for those who really want to improve something and/or find errors. Pass this information on to the developers in the most respectful and precise way possible. The point that many simply cannot understand/grasp is..... that there is a huge difference between CONSTRUCTIVE criticism and blunt moaning.
Well said! No game is perfect, but as a community we can call out what's wrong and needs fixing, it's what PTR for any game is for after all
I'm not a hardcore player, but everything else I enjoy the same for the most part as this community. Props for clarifying to people what you're all about raxx.
You remind me of how I handle folks at work LOL
Tell them to fix the town kick. Everytime I teleport to a city it's instant kick then relog same thing with long cut scenes you can't skip
Raxx doing what a QA should do, keep it up!
yes yes, put your hood, it s heavy rain today
Being a streamer sometimes reminds me of being a father to a small child
Great short. Everyone should understand it the way you do. Also checking Dungeons was a great idea 👌
Ah my only gripe is we only get 1 or 2 end game builds for the rogue..
the "you're too picky" or "you're telling them too much" are the people who test other games that SUCK ON LAUNCH. thank you for being amazing. :D and no, they've never been part of a PTR because it USED to be a PRIZE we got for being good players and giving feedback and that was exclusionary and hurt people's feelers... so now everyone does it and they think it's just to go play and have early access. LMAO
Exactly the whole reason the brought the ptr out is so they can have feedback from the player base. Dude isn’t wrong this is the time to nitpick so we can have a fun game to play.
The problem is that if they don’t have a concept for interesting game mechanics, then player feedback won’t help in any way, they’ll just polish what they have, nothing good will come of it. They need a very smart game designer.
Well said for all those 'just hate'. The only thing they know how to do: hate
Raxx is 100% right. The PTR is a full community test of the new features. NOW is the time for specific quality feedback. Being nit-picky is a VERY good thing. I don't nitpick as much when I'm playing games or checking out a PTR as much, but it's different for me. Making and Testing games and software is my JOB/CAREER. I play games like Diablo 4 for fun. The instant it becomes a job for me, I'm done.
Keep doing what your doing Raxx it’s the only reason that people can see decent problems discussed.
Good shit. Never to nitpicky. Rather have a great game. And they will listen if people’s say something. Just like after the minion change, the paragon needs a desperate reworks since our minions share 100% of our stats so most of the boards are useless
this is why i like you rax you get streight to the point and you are very stern when it comes to things
That’s the soul purpose of the test server. The game would be dog shit if not for streamers such as RAXX that are prepared to take the time and effort being as nit-picky as possible so we get the best product it can be. Carry on RAXX.
this is why I like Raxx, he's not afraid to show that it's his stream and he's in charge of it.
I wish there had been no feedback on the sorceress. Maybe then we could have had a good thing...
Standard when writing feedback during betas and early access. Since as far back as I can remember.
Those people are the one who keeps saying "D4 dont need PTR" before.
I've never understood the "Stop complaining about shit just go play a different game" mentality from people. People only complain when they want something to be better for a product they LIKE, and the only way things get better is when people complain.
Agreed! People should treat PTR servers like anything they say could be fixed in the next patch. You never know which develop will look at your 'nit-picky' problem and say 'that's an easy fix in an hour or two' and do it. 'Nit-picky' problem by nature are small things and the chances of them being easily and quickly fixable are much higher than absolutely game-breaking. bugs.
😂 100% facts and thanks bro for all the time you have put into this PTR your a legend in Diablo 😊
Thanks for taking your time to give your input to Blizzard and try to make the game better!!
Love your dedication to this franchise that means so much to you and me and so many people.
2 months later but "nitpicky" made frozen orb less viable. I think certain things should stay the same, frozen orb without changes would have had it in s tier but not above the classes currently stable in s tier.
this translate to "im ok with it been almost as good as it could be"
I’ve always appreciated how you contribute to the life of games man. I hope your words are seen as the truly valuable treasures that they are by the people with the power and ability to do something with it!
100%! Thanks Raxx for what you’re doing for the games I love … and for blue hoodies everywhere
Thanks Raxx. Maybe the people don’t get it, that you want to have a better Game at the end….
@larrymoore9262
3 ай бұрын
W raxx
@Xyanthium3889
3 ай бұрын
It's blizzard he's just wasting his time
@larrymoore9262
3 ай бұрын
@@Xyanthium3889 I mean I enjoy the game and I enjoy that he’s trying to make it much better
@Xyanthium3889
3 ай бұрын
@shatteredteethofgod blizzard is a greedy company that dosent give a shit about their player base and just wants to milk the community as much as possible the fact that you fools are still defending this company is mind blowing.
@handsomejack672
3 ай бұрын
@@Xyanthium3889then you don't know he is in D3 days. 😂
I think people have a difficult time telling when picking on little things is coming from a good place and not just whining about everything
I am 100% with you on this Raxx. If people don't agree they should leave also, that trash comments getting old very quick.
Not saying this is fact, but from my experiences, the people who point out "nitpicking,' especially during a PTR, are nothing but a bunch of casuals who have no qualms about just up and quitting the game one day. Us long term players, the ones who will ultimately have to deal with the state of the game for what it is AND for a much longer period of time, are the ones who "nitpick." We want our game to be good and to be good for EVERYBODY. So, if our "nitpicking" annoys you, you're free to let yourself out the door because you're not helping. On a side note, I am having one of the best times in D4 right now with Loot Reborn. Although I think tempering is a scam and the most popular affixes aren't weighted as high as other affixes, so it makes me stick up my middle finger at Blizzard whenever I get the perfect roles on a piece of gear. Other than that, great times.
Rumour has it the contrarian is still licking his wounds.
When does this game come out of Beta? It Looks interesting.