Hacking the Tesla Mobile Connector

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

I converted a very inexpensive Tesla Universal Mobile Connector (UMC) to a J1772 plug for my Chevy Bolt or any non-Tesla EV. The UMC is an awesome electric car charger and I couldn't resist the opportunity to build a custom one. If you are interested in one of these, please contact me at fixthelightning@gmail.com. I would love to discuss.
Take my Charging Survey and be entered to win one of two $50 gift cards: thejoshcharles.com/charging-s...
Some of the parts and tools I used are listed below:
Duosida J1772 Plug: bit.ly/36AGKpg
Pneumatic Crimper: bit.ly/3EBbK4N
Line/Ground Pin Die: bit.ly/3xFs0k3
Comm. Pin Die: bit.ly/3jWapfJ
Wire Stripper: amzn.to/37s7Wad
Hand Crimper: amzn.to/3MoN2HP
18 AWG Wire (Blue): amzn.to/3EwoSIG
18 AWG Wire (Orange): amzn.to/3jWCT8T
Crimp Ends: amzn.to/3JVMWWx
Chapters
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
0:00 Intro to Mobile Charging
2:21 The UMC is Amazing!
5:18 Making the Non-Tesla UMC
10:37 The Final Result
Amazon links are affiliate links. When you use them, you help support the channel, while paying the same prices you normally would. Thanks!

Пікірлер: 41

  • @rupe53
    @rupe53 Жыл бұрын

    that was nicely done, although the high-tech crimp tool made it look too easy. Personally, I would have no issues soldering those pins because they will not be subject to vibration or even much movement within that plug assembly. The addition of the shrink tubing was a stroke of genius.

  • @NAY2GAS
    @NAY2GAS Жыл бұрын

    Hey Josh, The guy who makes the Tesla Tap is the guy who made my custom cable. Mine is a Tesla UMC (now called NACS) handle to a female J1772, so basically the same as the 4” J1772 adapter that comes with every Tesla but mine is 19 feet long. I needed it because my EVSE is 35 feet from my Tesla charge port and my existing EVSE only has a 25 ft cable. The funny thing is I own one of these Tesla EVSEs for 2 years but I have never used it yet. Only used it as a display at car shows.

  • @TekShinji
    @TekShinji Жыл бұрын

    Hey there, I love the details you gave in this video! Question have you used a tt-30 connector the aftermarket one for the Tesla mobile connector? Trying to see if it'll work on a 30 amp 125 volt circuit. On other evscs it just detects 120 volts unlimited to 12 amps.

  • @henrycruz45cal
    @henrycruz45cal Жыл бұрын

    Or, you could have just attached the adapter

  • @zilogfan
    @zilogfan Жыл бұрын

    Awesome video and nice work! You do a nicer job than I do! Why and how do you have that crimper!!

  • @markpurcell4507
    @markpurcell4507 Жыл бұрын

    The versatility of the UMC and it's multiple tails is a real strength. The one UMS tail I haven't been able to locate is a Type 2 mennekes tail. Often they just want you to purchase a whole type 2 cable. Do you know why there is no Type 2 UMC tail?

  • @SFloyd794
    @SFloyd794 Жыл бұрын

    This guy does not fuck around. Thanks for the video.

  • @ozone7
    @ozone7 Жыл бұрын

    I'd like a breakdown of the resistor values that all of the adaptor-cables use to tell the UMC what current to supply! That way I could make a rotary switch to set the current manually. (To use only when you know what you're doin'! Like I do, and obviously you)

  • @jeremyb4909
    @jeremyb4909 Жыл бұрын

    Any idea what you want to do the labor on this job? If I had the crimper I could do it myself, but I definitely don't want to spend the money on the gear!

  • @toxin440
    @toxin4402 жыл бұрын

    Amazing video - liked and subscribed. I just purchased a Tesla mobile connector and NEMA bundle from their store, along with a Tesla->J1772 adapter for the widest plug hookup options when I'm on the road. Waiting patiently for EV6 GT-Line AWD :) Keep up the awesome work.

  • @scottywilliams8623

    @scottywilliams8623

    Жыл бұрын

    That's what I'm thinking about doing but wasn't sure if there was some tesla protocol that wouldn't allow it to work. Did it work for you?

  • @chriauc2976

    @chriauc2976

    Жыл бұрын

    IMO you went backwards about it should have gotten the proper USA made car. No more problems

  • @swhbpocl
    @swhbpocl Жыл бұрын

    I have question. Is there a way to make a Tesla or other EV to accept DC voltage supply to the onboard charger? I mean if a have a battery at like any DC-voltage between 170 to 340 VDC, it should be in the range as that is what will be produced in after the rectification in the on-board charger. What do you think?

  • @karolk.5674
    @karolk.5674 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for video but i need one more information is possible to connect thermistor to white wire and ground and have this extra safety feature like original umc have? (what ohm and ntc/ptc need?)

  • @tommckinney1489
    @tommckinney14892 жыл бұрын

    Nice video. As you've probably heard, Tesla recently announced they will no longer be supplying the UMC with new cars. Rumors are they will reduce the online price to around $200, so this may be a good alternative to other portable chargers.

  • @chargeeverywhere

    @chargeeverywhere

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Tom. I’m curious if that price will be with a car purchase or not. If not, that is an amazing deal! I have about $150 in parts for mine.

  • @ScottBessel
    @ScottBessel Жыл бұрын

    Does the GEN 1 UMC have the same current limiting based on installed adapter?

  • @en2oh
    @en2oh4 ай бұрын

    I cringed when you cut the charge wand off of the cable. I have a cable with a faulty end connector. Is there anywhere those cable ends are available?

  • @Andrii-Shysh
    @Andrii-Shysh4 ай бұрын

    Hi, I connected everything exactly like you in the video, but with Wall Connector gen3. My hyundai ioniq charges normally, but the Model s, through the adapter, shows a charger error Can you help me with this? If you want, I can send additional details in any massenger.

  • @db4z09
    @db4z092 жыл бұрын

    Do you know what gauge wires are in the tesla cable? Also any ideas on a replacement temperature sensor that could be used instead of just bypassing thermal protection? Thanks.

  • @m1geo

    @m1geo

    Жыл бұрын

    In the Tesla cable in UK (same as the Type 2 shown here), the temperature sensor is a NTC thermistor so the Tesla UMC (universal mobile connector) can see if the plug is getting hot. The other wires beside the PP, CP and temperature wires are for the button that opens the car's charge port. It just supplies power to a little RF module (433 MHz ISM band) in the Tesla plug - the US Tesla plugs also have this feature. Hope that helps.

  • @nosoupforyou425
    @nosoupforyou4252 жыл бұрын

    Really whishe that combo lvl 1 and 2 came with all EVs. Aftermarket one I bought has to be stepped down manually and had to buy multiple nema attachments.... Ends up pretty pricey. But I travel a fair amount and have found the need. Auto feature of the tesla one makes me whishe I had bought theirs

  • @chargeeverywhere

    @chargeeverywhere

    2 жыл бұрын

    Agreed. I just put out a video on my aftermarket 32A unit, which requires expensive adapters. The new $200 price point of the Tesla unit makes it a no-brainer, IMO.

  • @ai4px
    @ai4px Жыл бұрын

    10k thermisters are readily available on ebay.... would have been great to have kept that function.

  • @system2912
    @system2912 Жыл бұрын

    Do j1772 extensions work well with this. Would be a great option for someone who needs to get extra length out of the cord.

  • @chargeeverywhere

    @chargeeverywhere

    Жыл бұрын

    They should work fine although I haven’t tried it. The other alternative is to extend on the input side (extension cord) but it wouldn’t be as universal and there is always dangers when using 5-15 cords that they probably can’t handle the current.

  • @davidcaple5547
    @davidcaple5547 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Josh, just a curiosity ... how did you know which side is the Live and which is the Neutral? Is it marked somewhere?

  • @gustavgans3760

    @gustavgans3760

    Жыл бұрын

    It's colour coded

  • @davidcaple5547

    @davidcaple5547

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gustavgans3760 Thanks Josh, I'm sorry I only posed half of my question :( I wanted to know which is which from the pins, without taking the thing apart! Having watched your video a few more times I think I can now work that out from the various shots you give of the plug internals. I'm trying to charge a 2020 Tesla Model 3 AWD LR battery pack off the car to use as a 'powerwall'. There is very little information on such a project on the Internet. The problem I'm facing currently is I'm not getting any power to the battery pack input socket on the penthouse so I just wanted to create 'test points' along my intended charging cabling to see where it's getting stuck. I must say I'm currently thinking of direct charging the two halves of the Model 3's battery layout using a 220vDC supply from a transformer. If you have any thoughts on how to achieve my project I would love to hear from you.

  • @AntonioRepole
    @AntonioRepole2 жыл бұрын

    How is done the opposite side of the UMC Tesla? What is its name? Can I create a blue adapter 32A ?

  • @m1geo

    @m1geo

    Жыл бұрын

    It's just resistors to a sense pin that tell the charger how much current to offer.

  • @emmettturner9452
    @emmettturner94522 жыл бұрын

    Since Tesla is no longer bundling a MC with the cars, perhaps they should outright sell these with Type 1 plugs for other EV owners. It should help them reach even higher economies of scale. Makes sense unless they are subsidizing the $200 unit and would just lose more money if they sold more for non-Tesla owners.

  • @android04

    @android04

    Жыл бұрын

    The reason they are no longer including the universal mobile connectors is due to supply shortages, which were also a factor before the pandemic (the charge connectors are and were more often out of stock in their online store than they were in stock). Making them more widely available would only make the shortage worse for their customers.

  • @emmettturner9452

    @emmettturner9452

    Жыл бұрын

    @@android04 Thanks, but I’m talking about a Type 1 output J1772. Tesla doesn’t sell those adapters on their store. Even the Type 1 J1772 to Tesla adapter is the reverse of the J1772 connector I’m talking about. Even so, your info definitely puts things in a different light. Thanks.

  • @ai4px
    @ai4px Жыл бұрын

    All you chevy bolt owners, you COULD cut off the 120v plug and replace it with a 240v plug, but please don't do this. There is a temperature sensor in the 120v plug of the EVSE that comes with the Bolt. If you cut the plug off you lose the ability for the car to sense that it's plugged into an old lose 120v socket and that could be dangerous. Also, figure out all of the outlets on the branch circuit that you plug your car into. Then open up the receptacles and see if the wires use the screw terminals or are simply "back stabbed". Please modify them to use the screw terminals. Your insurance agent will thank you.

  • @Androcentus
    @Androcentus Жыл бұрын

    Nice video but doesn't justify the total price at the end with all of your toys. Thanks!

  • @chargeeverywhere

    @chargeeverywhere

    Жыл бұрын

    No, it doesn't. I have some other use cases that I'll be sharing over the coming months.

  • @Mladjasmilic
    @Mladjasmilic6 ай бұрын

    Or just buy 20$ type 2 to type 1 adapter. What a waste of time...

  • @s9josh778
    @s9josh7782 жыл бұрын

    Geez man. Just admit you regret not buying a Model3.

  • @chargeeverywhere

    @chargeeverywhere

    2 жыл бұрын

    Na

  • @toxin440

    @toxin440

    2 жыл бұрын

    troll much S9 Josh? The dude just created an awesome (and safe) hybrid mix of tech for his needs.

Келесі