Haaland, Rashford & Saka Debate | Ste Grills Gareth Southgate Again | FT Harry Pinero
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On today’s episode of Vibe With Five, Rio Ferdinand, Joel Beya, Stephen Howson and Harry Pinero go through England’s fixtures, and some key debates surrounding the England squad and the Premier League POTY candidates. Some of the topics discussed are Rashford, Haaland or Saka for the Premier League Player Of The Year, as well as Southgate’s Three-Lions’ full back dilemma. Stay tuned to hear the panel dissect Southgate’s comments on Rashford pulling out of the England squad and whether they find the comments justified. For more insightful football content, keep up to date with the channel by subscribing and clicking the notification bell.
0:00; - Intro
1:26; - Is Marcus Rashford a significant loss for England?
7:00; - Does Gareth Southgate deserve to stay in charge of England?
12:54; - Rio on the current squad of England national team
14:40; - Rio shares his thoughts on work ethic and mentality of genuine winners
18:09; - Bukayo Saka as one of England’s leaders
20:51; - England’s main attacking threat
22:26; - Harry Kane as England's all-time record goalscorer
24:48; - Who’s going to be Spurs’ next manager?
28:24; - Who will lift PL title at the end of this season?
29:26; - The main contenders for the Player of the season Award
39:05; - Man Utd & Arsenal’s upcoming fixtures
41:22; - Outro
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0:00; - Intro 1:26; - Is Marcus Rashford a significant loss for England? 7:00; - Does Gareth Southgate deserve to stay in charge of England? 12:54; - Rio on the current squad of England national team 14:40; - Rio shares his thoughts on work ethic and mentality of genuine winners 18:09; - Bukayo Saka as one of England’s leaders 20:51; - England’s main attacking threat 22:26; - Harry Kane as England's all-time record goalscorer 24:48; - Who’s going to be Spurs’ next manager? 28:24; - Who will lift PL title at the end of this season? 29:26; - The main contenders for the Player of the season Award 39:05; - Man Utd & Arsenal’s upcoming fixtures 41:22; - Outro
@davymoffitt9726
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@davymoffitt9726
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@utdforever9236
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PINERO EVERYDAY 🔥🔥 he is such a vibe
I love it when Ste rips into that waistcoat fraud.
@jimmysquirrel7225
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And the other lad to be fair - both spot on with their takes on our donkey manager!
@ameyagokhale5123
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@@jimmysquirrel7225 Harry P
@haimainjauo242
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Fun fact: every person on earth who's not English agrees. Southgate is trash. Universally trash
@Lee-dr5gh
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Yea hahah
@omaryareofficial1408
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I’m with Ste waistcoat fraud SouthgateOut 😂
“Scout camp” I love Ste 😂😂😂😂😂😂💀
@saudihansen835
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timestamp?
@haimainjauo242
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That's exactly what it is though 🤣💀
@lovelight1149
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@@saudihansen835 10:30
@N8KOW
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STE smashed that one out of the park 😂😂😂😂😂
@mediacenterman8583
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Marshmallows & Camp Fire🔥🔥
"We all have a good time, we get the guitars out, get the marshmallows and win fokol"- Ste And he's not lying😂😂
@lungilembangi8298
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Fokol, mtase, fokol LOL!!!!!
Ste is on a roll today 😂😂😂😂
@haimainjauo242
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STE ALWAYS ON A ROLL! WE JUST NEED TO ROLL ALONG
@jaysparrow6631
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Yeah sausage rolls 😂😂😂
@Jay-op4dv
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Joel is crediting Southgate for building an environment. That environment is there because we’re in the social media age and they all want to be pals. It’s nothing to do with Southgate 😂
@jameskilmeen
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You love to see it #YANITED
Ste spits straight facts about Southgate and Maguire. Nobody else says it how it is.
@bg22757
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Tons of people say exactly the same things.
@ArunaUtd
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Too many big voices afraid of burning bridges and offending fragile egos. Ste's from the Ricky Gervais school of thought.
Please make Harry a regular! He’s hilarious 😂
JoeL was Ole out when he was taking United to semis and finals, but is ready to give southgate a chance when he has better players at his disposal. Hypocritical.
@omgwerockhard
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Also he gives credit for england getting there beating opponents they should beat. But when Utd won carabao cup. He said it wasnt impressive cuz the opponents they faced.
Loved this episode. Ste and Hp a sick duo😂
Joel's haircut is an abomination 😱
@BLEWONE
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Mate, seriously bad. Looks fresh from a transplant
@day-me-inmoodley3283
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Used the international window to visit Turkey.
@soso-V12
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@@BLEWONE Mate that horizontal line popping off is jokes 😂
@Ladioz
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@@day-me-inmoodley3283 Transplants from turkey are always worst, because they are cheap
@thetrappedchatterbox7941
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Ronaldo '02.
‘You sit on the bench and watch a dwarf play’ Ste that was legendary 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
@danedwadd62
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What minute was that?
@lovelight1149
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@@danedwadd62 14:25
@haimainjauo242
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That interview is the nail in the coffin. #MaguireOut #GlazersOut #SteTheTruth
@mamatheregoesthatwoman
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You can see the edit right after he was HOT
Ste went Hard on Maguire they had to cut it out 😂😂 on 14:36 Love it😂
@ineverswag
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yoooo i peeped that
@Nightsu
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release the extended rant 😂
Loved Rio in this. Was was more open than he usually is! 😂 It's actually mad we haven't seen Rashford Kane Saka start a game yet.
Odegaard being so important for arsenal is why saka has the space out on the right.... That's why he should be arsenal's player of the year as captain
Great show! Harry should be on more often!!!!
This is Haaland first season and is going to destroy the goal record he has 42 goals in all comps this season in MARCH the record 44 in all season
Ste and harry spot on about Southgate
People speaking about Haaland really don't watch the games. He does a lot more than just score goals. Thanks Rio for stating facts.
@mediacenterman8583
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100% agree. But people think that a striker can only impact when scoring.
@Labben91
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I don't think they have seen even 1 of his Dortmund games where he played the other on again and again to score or assist.
@Sproles11
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Exactly. And I hate the argument that City would be just as good without him. It just shows that people don’t know anything about City
Disrespect towards Haaland is getting laughable
@KarmaKahn
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Always like that with non-English players. They saying Haaland not impacting games is beyond delusional.
@mediacenterman8583
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@@KarmaKahn 'delusional' is to football commentary what 'basically' is to conversation. Please stop
@khaledsalem978
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Let us not forget the impact Yaya toure had when CITY won the league with Pellegrini and hazard won the Player of the season. Laughable.
Ste was on fire today 🤣🤣😭 I’m howling!!!!!
Joel is a top top waffler, I thought it was only with Arsenal but it's across the board
Great panel. Personalities blended well 👍👍
Damn, Rio is so chill. Steve, Joel and Harry made it by chatting about football a legend like Rio. Bro, are they sitting with Rio??!!!! Can’t believe it. I would ask him all kinds of questions regarding his celebrations and stuff he said to opposing fans. Nice podcast. Love it.
Overall, Rodri has again been the best player over the course of the season, but he isn't rushing about sliding into people every few minutes so, as a DM in the UK, he gets overlooked. Outside of him, if Haaland can't get POTY with 42 goals in 36 games so far (with potentially 18 more games to play) I don't know what the hell is going on. Also, the idea that he is a "bad footballer" is silly, he has some really nice assists this season and his linkup play is improving all the time.
@williamday8838
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I know they clearly don’t watch city. His assists against man United were so nice. They don’t realise they are witnessing g the greatest individual season in premier league history. A bunch of clowns.
@caseymjada2011
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I think Rodri was the best player in the league last season and even tho he's slightly not as good as he was last season, he's been incredible this season. Haaland was bullying Ruben Dias in the CL when we faced Dortmund and even tho he didn't score a goal, he had a good game against us and even grabbed a pretty good assist
@qwertyvypez
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@William day looool te best individual season in prem history. He hasn't ha a better season than Kanye at Leicester and Kante first season at chelsea
Another great episode lads. I always refresh the channel on Monday evenings for the latest episode. And Rio's industry tidbits are always fire. Keep it up.
Ill just say if Haaland put up these numbers as a United player we wouldnt even have a debate.
This Quartet 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Great video. Love tgese conversations. Fix levels a Little bit. Every time someone raises their voice or laugh i have to lover the sound. Thanks for great work and videos
It seems very apparent to me that a lot of people don't recognize that Man City have had a lot of players who've displayed sub-par form this season. Many of the same people also took it for granted before the season even started, that Man City would run away with the league title this year, because they've done so several times over the past few years. It doesn't work like that. There is an end to a player's motivation, and these players do actually grow older over time. They don't just sustain and repeat the same level of football until fans give them the green light to stop doing it, lol. Johan Cruyff: "After you've won something, you're no longer 100 percent, but 90 percent. It's like a bottle of carbonated water where the cap is removed for a short while. Afterwards there's a little less gas inside." Football fans: "They've won it before, so they'll definitely win it again".
@caseymjada2011
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I don't think there's a single Manchester City player that's on the same form this season (or better) than they were last season apart from Ake. Had it not been for Haaland, we would've been fighting for fourth place
I loved steve in this..he was bang on everything 😂
First off all I love this cast, second where can I download the intro song? Its fire 🔥🔥🔥
theres no debate...haaland is head and shoulders above everyone.
@mediacenterman8583
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It's all dependent on your metric. Player X scores 5 matching winning goals, vs Player Y who scores 15 goals in 5 games where the opponent was thrashed? Haaland is going to break all of the goalscoring records, but even that is not a guarantee of silverware. We shall see.
@caseymjada2011
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It's an individual awards it shouldn't matter whether or not he won Silverware
He says he has never seen anything like Haalands scoring then proceeds to say Martin or saka is better, you cant say no one has ever done what Haaland is doing before, but saka has a an "impact"
Ste woke up today and chose violence 😂😂😂
Another excellent show guys
Ste is too funny man😂😂
Ste is all fired up and I'm here for it.
Great episode
On the recent Match of the Day Top 10s podcast, they were talking about pundits. Micah had Rio at 8th and Shearer I think had him at 4th BUT both had Souness ahead of him - please discuss. Thank you
Rashford: - 14 goals, 3 assists. - 63% shot accuracy. - Plays mostly off the left - Scored goals which are unorthodux and unusual for his position. Runs and destroys defenders from all angles. - Can finish games on his own. Been among the most impactful and decisive offensive players this season.
@ricardoalk
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Here's some interesting stats Saka vs Rashford 12 goals - 14 goals 10 assists - 3 assists 53 ℅ shot accuracy - 63 ℅ shot accuracy 68 chances created - 18 chances created 43 take ons completed - 36 take ons completed 142 ground duels won - 72 ground duels won Martinelli vs Rashford 13 goals - 14 goals 2 assists - 3 assists 56 ℅ shot accuracy - 63 ℅ shot accuracy 43 chances created - 18 chances created 46 take ons completed - 36 take ons completed 95 ground duels won - 72 ground duels won
@bereket4322
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@@ricardoalk Stats are important, yes. But they don't tell the whole story. So let's look at some other stats. Total amount of team goals in PL this season - Arsenal: 66, Man Utd: 41. Meaning Rashford (with 16) has almost half of them. Total amount of goals against - Arsenal: 26 vs. Man Utd: 35. Avg. possession stats - Arsenal: 60.5% vs. Man Utd: 52.7%. And if you look at decisive game involvements, Rashford's stats won't be far behind too many PL players this season. Arsenal's team stats are comparable with Man City's ones every time they've won the league in recent years and they've had way more possession in the opponents half than Man Utd.
@bereket4322
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For me Saka should be mentioned in the discussion but Rashford definitely should be too.
I don't think there's a Manchester City fan that cared on the typa goals that Haaland scores because without him we've missed loads of tapins that knocked us out of the Champions League and in loads of games in the Premier League. Saka has been phenomenal but I can name 10 players at the top of my head that have had a bigger influence than Saka for their team
@khaledsalem978
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How many tapins did sterling miss? If that guy could convert CITY would have won every single game.
great show as always guys, nice one
22:53 Harry not getting any shoots with Kane 😂😂
Ste's killing it in the episode 🤣🤣🤣
Rio: "It's not as easy as you make it out" Joel: "I think it is" Poor Rio having to deal with these deluded football fans.
@mediacenterman8583
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Joel has obviously never seen any of Sterling's misses.
HP too funny 😂😂😂 ‘you wait… you wait for me’ 😂
Ste got cut mid-quote about Maguire. That means that they had to cut what he said. Wonder what he DID say.
@ameyagokhale5123
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Definitely nothing good
Being a Man UTD fan, Agreed, Saka has had a big impact and deserves some credit. He always looks like a threat to every opposition Arsenal has faced and makes the 1 on 1 battles look so easy. I envy him and wish he was in United :P
Not a debate. Let's be honest. Haaland is the best talent from a pure striker perspective we have seen in a while. His stats prove he has a nose for goals.
@mediacenterman8583
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It's all dependent on your metric. Player X scores 5 matching winning goals, vs Player Y who scores 15 goals in 5 games where the opponent was thrashed? Haaland is going to break all of the goalscoring records, but even that is not a guarantee of silverware. We shall see.
@the1truth420
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@@mediacenterman8583 like I said it's not debatable.
Ste was hilarious!
JBeya - I love you mate- You make the discussions worth the fun🤣
HP’s best performances are on here, I’d love to see him on here more!
Love the Utd Channel backing Rashy!
Ste on southgate is always spot on
Why did you cut Steve going in on Maguire. I want the unedited version!
who does the intro song?
Why did England never play Carrick in the 6 sitting with Lamps left 8....Gerrard right 8...... Seems obvious..... Yet they played them in a shocking rigid 442...
Intro is brazy 🔥🔥
I just love Ste😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
10:33 sums up Southgate perfectly 😂
Stes absolutely spot on about Southgate. He gets a pass from the media cos ‘he’s a good guy’. Fellas an awful manager!
Legends 🙌🏾
To even think that Saka is even close to haaland is funny to me
@powerkingez9682
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Yeah saka is amazing but Haaland is Galactico material at 22, Haaland will smash every record in he's first season in a new country at 22 and people downplay it to "tapins and he plays for city" like city has been the only team ever in the prem to have a good midfield
@micah0190
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Different type of players. There is no comparison there
@mediacenterman8583
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That's not how football analysis works. This is how Cannavaro beat Henry
@mediacenterman8583
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It's all dependent on your metric. Player X scores 5 matching winning goals, vs Player Y who scores 15 goals in 5 games where the opponent was thrashed? Haaland is going to break all of the goalscoring records, but even that is not a guarantee of silverware. We shall see.
@powerkingez9682
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@@mediacenterman8583 Haaland has litterly opened the scoring in most games and scored the winning or winner goals, and he has scored against almost every single team he has faced this season except like 1-2 so thats an awfull argument, but people like you dont care because you have allready made up your mind about him
Glad to have been in a generation that was able to watch football in the 80s, 90, 2000, and 2010 ( - 14).....
Rio's comments about Carrick were spot on - to this day I'm still annoyed at his lack of time with England. He would have complemented the team so much better than constantly trying to play Gerrard and Lampard. Even if Gerrard and Lampard are 'better' than Carrick, they play different roles. Put Carrick as a 6 with either of them as an 8/10 (or preferably Scholes) would have made the team so much better.
@mediacenterman8583
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Carrick was not sexy enough. The media just wanted the usual suspects regardless of how ineffective they were.
@stuartabbott2307
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@@mediacenterman8583 I dunno, I think he's a very handsome man! ;) You're right tho - did his job superbly well, with no fuss, but rarely did anything Hollywood.
Saying that Haaland hasn`t had the impact is insane, Haaland is the player carrying Man City this season. City has had shaky defense, players that wanna leave Silva and Cancelo, Injuries to important players like Ruben Diaz, and aging midfield with only KDB playing at his level. Without Haaland City would probably be somewhere between 7-10th this season.
@varadramakrishna
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Yup that's what I am saying....they would have had same problems like Liverpool if not for Clinical Haaland and KDB...
@KarmaKahn
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True. When you have to go back to the 1920's to find a comparison you are making a bloody impact, lol. Haaland has been clutch in so many games for City.
@varadramakrishna
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@@KarmaKahn clutch to the point, where, every comeback city did this season has at least a goal contribution from Haaland...
@sayandeb6459
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Im a City fan and i absolutely agree. Without Haaland we would be in 7th-8th you're absolutely right
@mediacenterman8583
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Ahhh nothing like the hypothetical rebuttal? Without Haaland, did City allow Jesus to leave? Did Pep go back in for Kane? Would Alvarez had been suffciently potent? If my Aunt had balls, she would be my Uncle. PS: Forza Milan!!!!
Debate between Haaland Rasford and Saka... No contest here sorry.. Haaland is the player. How many hat tricks have he had this season? 8? Rashford is 2nd for me and Saka 3rd. on this list. but both Rashford and Saka are far far far behind Haaland.
How the front 6 isn’t this every single game, I don’t know: Rice Bellingham Foden Saka Kane Rashford
Ste lookin slim! Cmon son! Nice work!
You guys gotta control the mic and volume, some people are loud some some not, plus some were talking far away from the mic and not placed properly.
Harry should be a weekly guest icl, as a Gooner
'IT'S A SCOUTS CAMP' (10:30) HAHAHAHA. STE IS AMAZING.
Surely if Marcus wouldn’t of pulled out he would of played…
Harry should be on here every week, when he pulled out the T Rex arms I lost it 😂
HP Conte impression is wicked
Lads, love this YT channel but sometimes the sound is all over the place - either extremely loud or whispers. Def recommend shirt-mics. Cheers!
Haaland goal scoring output in comparable to prime Messi and Ronaldo. He's scored 42 goals and we're just in March. These clowns here are comparing him to bums like Saka and Rashford. British bias is crazy 😅
@KarmaKahn
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Always the disrespect with non-English players.
@mediacenterman8583
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*English, not British.
@mediacenterman8583
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@@KarmaKahn Like the way the English media salivated over Cantona? Kante? Henry? Bergkamp? Zola? Hazard? Salah? KDB? CR7? Stop shadow fighting and trying to put forward your own agenda of xenophobia FFS
That England team achieved what they have “DESPITE” Southgate, not because of him
Jo el needs to wear a tighter top man… .
Great show. I'm a United fan. Imho Haaland and Saka are levels above Rashford that's even with Rashford being awesome this season. They are more consistent over time, impactful, younger and have a higher footballing IQ.
Howson's on a roll 🤣🤣🤣🤣 got to love this guys take on Southgate...SPOT ON!
Stephen u made my day.
Audio is everywhere, either really quiet or crazy loud
Nice one
30:44 Checkmate!
HP need to be on these shows permanently!!!
Hear me out... Michael Carrick for the England Job after Southgate goes after the Euros? 🤷🏼♂️
Rio describing Harry Kane’s golden boot is in slight contrast to his thoughts given on the high performance podcast with Jake and Damien 😕
Agree with the boys about this criticism being unfair. But also I just read somewhere that Rashford has pulled out of 5 of the last 6 England squads, maybe that’s where Southgate’s frustration stems from.
HP and Ste sitting next to each other isn’t something I expected
Quality 💯🤙
Why do you guys mess up with the lights/colors everytime???
That Kane impression was just 😂😂😂
What Joel is missing when he keeps saying haaland is just scoring goals, is that for cities history, full of great midfielders and strikers, they have never had a player get these numbers like this. It's frankly ridiculous. And he's covering his eyes and pretending otherwise on this one.
@sleepingstate1978
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@@sandboxplayerz667 not the point. It's not about team performance. The whole thing was about individual performance. His individual performance is out of this world. The fact that he can still score this many goals and ppl are still saying he doesn't stand out is brain melting. Does he need to piss gold?
@sleepingstate1978
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@@sandboxplayerz667 let's put this in to context seeing as you brought up Ronaldo. Haaland has already equalled Ronaldo best ever season in England for goals scored. That's the year Ronaldo won balon dor btw. The season Ronaldo did that he didn't track back, he didn't defend. He actually did very little for the team in the way you express important. The team had to compensate for those things. Now I haven't checked, but what if united scored less goal that season than the season before? By your logic it would make the individual performance less. Do you realise your logic?
@sleepingstate1978
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@@sandboxplayerz667 I think you have come at this the wrong way. If united with young Ronaldo refused to adapt to his style then it might end up with him scoring loads but united not playing as well. My point with haaland is that any team deficiencies could be overcome if the team was about that. Either way, none of that diminishes the absolute monster haaland is proving to be. Another way to look at it might be to say forget man city entirely. Haaland could join any team and score buckets and they would welcome him without hesitation. He is that good. I don't know what team you support, but I do know the majority of that fan base would take haaland in a heartbeat
Judging based on "impact" is so flawed. You can basically never pick a City player since the team consistently does well in the PL.
@mediacenterman8583
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Like Mangala & Ferran Torres?
This should absolutely be the opinion of England's fan he has bottled it countless times and he wouldn't get a job at a premier league team. We've played easy times most the time and fallen at every hurdle vs a good team except beating Germany once. He's out here sending strays to Marcus who is the most in form player in the world and also done incredible things for the country outside of football. He hasn't actually even achieved anything
The same with Ramsdale and Toney. Brought Toney on for 10 mins and doesn't play Ramsdale. 🤷🏼♂️
@Rio please invite Marcus Rashfod to the podcast
Saka is world class dont want to hear otherwise
@alanclarke2510
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I'm a Utd fan Mujeeb and i agree Saka is defo World class and he's gonna win the Prem 👍
@AJ-nd4nk
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Can't be world class until he's done it at a high level for years and also dominated Europe's elites.
@cowboyorangesoda8408
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@@AJ-nd4nk Premier league are some of Europe's elites, just this season he's scored against almost all the big boys
Bro i wish Rio and co defended for England like they do for Southgate. They would have won everything
@KR-jg7gc
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I find it insane that all they (former players and mass media) wana look at is "he go to a final" as if its an actual achievement and even when Ste breaks down the scenario logically they simply throw it out without actually thinking about how he's never won vs a thats higher than then.
@mediacenterman8583
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Harry did not defend him, though.
@mediacenterman8583
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@@KR-jg7gc Getting to the final IS an achievement. Teams have celebrated being knocked out int he semis FFS.