Gyrocar #4 - Almost Success!!! (Arduino controlled Gyro)
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Now I give the gimbal some degree of freedom. In this way I can let the gyro do its precession. What I do is basically monitor the position of the gimbal and if the gimbal angle is larger than preset threshold, the servo will push the gimbal to the direction of the movement. I know this is not the correct way to control a gimbal. What I want to try here is to find a very simple way to make my platform stay upright. By the way, I use Arduino Uno to do the job.
Gyrocar #1: • Gyrocar #1 (gyroscope ...
Gyrocar #2: • Gyrocar #2 (gyroscope ...
Gyrocar #3: • Gyrocar #3 - Failed (d...
Gyrocar #5: • Gyrocar #5 - Quick Update
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Para mantener la motocicleta de pie, yo le pondria un giroscopio con dos volantes de inercia horizontales girando en sentido contrario y para el avance se pueden poner dos o mas volantes de inercia girando hacia adelante todos ellos.
Your fantastic projects have literally MESMERIZED me .....
@OkkiMoeljadi
Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Are you sure the Arduino Uno itself can provide enough power to the servo? Most RC vehicles connect the power and ground pins of any power consuming component to a dedicated power supply. Only the signal pin of the component is actually powered directly by the controlling circuits.
friends always tell me it hard and Impossible to get the precision of self balancing. here you are bro you did it. I'm show them your video to prove them wrong. GOOD LUCK
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
AiBug production thank you for your positive comment.
It seems to me like the tilt should be to the left and right and not front and back, as to affect the tilt of the motorcycle in a controlled way. I do not know, and have not tested it.
@meatcreap
6 жыл бұрын
By applying force in the *front* / **back** axis, the gyroscope actually translates this force into the *left* / **right** axis through angular momentum. The force applied to a rotating disc is eventuated 90° from where the force was applied. Gyros are pretty crazy things! This is an awesome little project.
Yes you must reduce the backlash. Use a single rod for the servo arm.
excuse me sir...can u please explain the dimensions of the flywheel and the precision providing clamp...what's the exact price of the flywheel sir??
Very nice idea & prototype, i see it spinning into a bright future...^^
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
Mister Caribbean Roots Thank you. What a compliment.. BTW I like all your prototypes, they look solid and very professional.
@MythologicalLoneLion
7 жыл бұрын
You are most welcome and thank you for liking my prototypes also...^^
why is the flywheel mounted horizontally and not vertically as in the gyro-x car?
@OkkiMoeljadi
Жыл бұрын
You can mount it either way.
@Ibusathik
7 ай бұрын
What happens when you place the lateral axles facing forward
@mattivirta
4 ай бұрын
better have horizotal than vertical if build real size bike.
Try using wireless energy and weights to counter balance the motor
i interesting if you use 2 gyro wheel and 2 motor and both run different direction. and need add potentiometer off change encoder this have better accurate and fast closed loop.
At this point, you should probably add another degree of freedom for side/side movement of the gyro- that way you should be able to do sharp angled turns, and keep the car steady by keeping the gyro level. Cool work, I'm interested in seeing where you go with it! (Also, forgive me if someone else has already said this, or you've thought of it already XD)
@OkkiMoeljadi
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm still working on this gyro as long as my time permits. I will replace the servo motor with a DC motor and make some kind of slip coupling to control the gimbal.
@jacobfield2214
6 жыл бұрын
Okki Moeljadi Awesome! I felt like a bit of a dork after I looked at your channel and saw nothing about it for a while, but awesome to hear it's still a thing! I've wondered about using a gyro like that myself, so glad to see it in action!
@hitmansoft
6 жыл бұрын
Just a thought: use a brushless gimbal motor to enable fast and precise control.
Hey!! I m interested in doing a similar project for my final year project. We are planning to stabilize the two wheeler even with the rider on it at zero velocity(at rest). Can you give me suggestions for where to start and points to be remembered while doing this project? Thank You
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
Please check out the KZread channel from Jimmy Demello. He has very good tutorial in this subject. I wish you much success with your project.
I would put that arm downside to keep the balance, but good job man. You should try it again from other perspective now, one year later!!! Keep pushing your proyect, it's going nice so far
@OkkiMoeljadi
6 жыл бұрын
Gregory Schift, thanks for your comment and moral support. Yes this project is not finished yet. I'll continue this if I have time.
Note the slack at the balance breaking point when the gyro is manipulated before being energized. That same slack is multiplied exponentially under power...correct the mechanics of the control trane and stability will result. Again...great job.
@OkkiMoeljadi
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
This is very interesting stuff, cool.
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
yusuf abdulloh thank you.
@saisindu2925
4 жыл бұрын
I want to know about the dimensions of the gyroscope
Nice work Okki! I was just wondering why you try to control precession? What is the point of it?
@OkkiMoeljadi
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pedro. I think you should build it yourself to understand it. Basically without control, the platform will not stand for long time.
@engestruturas
6 жыл бұрын
I decided to study a little more about gyros. If I understood correctly you apply a torque every time the platform tends to tilt sideways, then the angular momentum experiences a variation in the same direction of torque causing the axis of rotation to always return to vertical and, consequently, the platform always horizontal . You do this automatically by means of servo controlled by the Arduino. I want to do something similar, but first I'll study a little more about programming and modeling software like SolidWork. I'm busy with other things right now, but I have plans to do it someday. I hope to see the progress of your invention in future videos, Okki. Please, if I said something that is not correct let me know. Would you or anyone reading my review have any tips to give me about what I need to study to build something like that?
@OkkiMoeljadi
6 жыл бұрын
Hi Pedro, please read and watch tutorials from Jimmy Demello. He has fantastic tutorial in this subject and recently he made good progress. Actually this is my replication of his gyro. Also please read all descriptions and comments on my gyro-playlist. My information is all there. I do not hide anything. What you need to have is patient to build this. As you have to understand the behavior of gyro first before you will be able to make your platform stand by itself. I will post a new video as soon as I make any progress with this toy. At the moment I really don't have time to do something with this. I wish you much success with your project!
@engestruturas
6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Okki!
Hello there, I'm following and liking your project pretty much. I want to ask if there is any relation with the power/torque/RPM of the gyro with the weight/mass/ any other factor of the platform I'm using. In your case, the car body of yours. And also can't get the theme of the project. If you can clarify a bit more, it'd be helpful. Will wait for upcoming #s.
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for liking my videos. Yes there are relations between those parameters. Heavier gyro wheel means higher torque, higher RPM means higher torque, so that you can stabilize the platform better. Please check out gyrocar tutorial from Jimmy Demello, he has made very good tutorial in this subject. I also built this toy according to his guidance.
why don't you stepper motor to control it. and also don't give too much liberty to fly wheel to fall in one direction
Nice going Okki. It is a shame we have to use natural precession to make it work. I dont think the C-1 is doing that - they are directly controlling the gimbal with a servo and do it so fast that the gyro corrects almost instantaneously. Have you tried to control the gimbal without using precession and what was your experience? Yours looks so good. I finally got a local machinest to make me a rotor (just an aluminum blank with no cutouts) but it generates lots of torque so will try to get back into the game. So happy you are working on this as no else seems to be doing so.
@demej00
7 жыл бұрын
PS. At one time I had a setup to control the gimbal with a servo and used arduino and neural net routine to make it balance. But I was using a tilt sensor and the vibration was so bad it never worked. Should have used the potentiometer sensor and tried it. If I can get this gyroscope working half decent like yours then I will try that routine again with the pot sensor.
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
Hi Jimmy, nice to hear something from you again. How are you doing? Yes, it's a shame indeed. But I don't think that Louis Brennan's Gyro-Monorail and Charles Taylor's One-Wheel-Vehicle used direct control to maintain the stability of their cars. If we do direct control to control the gimbal, we have to calculate not only gimbal position but also the platform (vehicle) inclination. In my opinion it is of course possible but we have to calculate many parameters (gimbal angle, vehicle inclination, feedback signal, etc.) and put that output as fast as possible. In other word, we need to implement high speed PID-Controlling. I have bought a 3-Axis gyrosensor and made short test (see this link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/m66iutWMYrbJpdY.html). But I haven't tried that with this platform. I think my platform is not rigid enough to handle such direct control. To be honest I don't really have time to develop this further. I have many other projects going on besides my family (I have 3 small children). If I have a bit more time I would like to try DC-Motor gimbal control first and after that the direct control. Regarding your new aluminum wheel. What do you mean by generating lots of torque? Can you control that huge torque or not? Thank you very much for your comment and idea. Maybe after reading your comment I have to think for a while and rearange my project priority and continue the development of this gyrocar toy. I think your comment gives me motivation to continue this. We'll see. Take care Jimmy!
@demej00
7 жыл бұрын
Hi Okki. I posted this before but this guy has achieved the gimbal control quite nicely. So nicely that I have absolutely no motivation to work on this anymore. Good luck with your kids - thats great. I am going to do a simple pendulum car project, fly my rc planes, start a new term teaching English this month, try to lose some weight, and just hang out I guess.
@demej00
7 жыл бұрын
mateusabreu.esy.es/projeto-instrumentacao-e-controle/
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
Hi Jimmy, I think this same guy sent me his video link some time ago on my comment section but did not respond to my question. Anyway here is his video link: kzread.info/dash/bejne/o4GW2adrdrrXdrg.html
Hey bro The adruino code you've pasted is it independent of any other parameters or is it specific for a certain kind or type? And what is this (at 5.49 seconds) on the gimbal?
@OkkiMoeljadi
6 жыл бұрын
I think you can use my code for any Arduino board. That thing is a potentiometer, I use it to read the gimbal angle.
@vishalgandotra1328
6 жыл бұрын
Okki Moeljadi thanks bro.
Hi Okki i think the "C" language is required only to make the cycle robotic ?
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
Mohammed Obaid, you can use C language to create many different programs.
Can I ask a question? I will do a similar project to gyrocar but I don't have got enough experience. What sensor did you use? MPU 6050 sensor or anything else? Please Can you share your components and more details about gyrocar?
@OkkiMoeljadi
5 жыл бұрын
I have shared already the details including the links where I got the components and also my arduino source code.
@beyzatanrikulu3248
5 жыл бұрын
Okki Moeljadi Thank you so much🙏I noticed now
Instead of using two pegs on the sides of the arm, try drilling a line on the arm, and have a peg going through it. That way you have immediate response that doesn't jerk and wobble
@OkkiMoeljadi
6 жыл бұрын
I'm dodifying this system right now. I will use some kind of slip-coupling to control the gimbal.
Why this is vibration at some particular Interval??
車上要安裝陀螺儀來控制搖桿.自動平衡..必須可調整範圍以及敏感度...
Very nice unique project. Better to give some audio commentary/explanation also for those who have not seen your earlier video.
Where did you buy all the aluminum/metallic parts?
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
All the parts I bought from here: www.omega-electronic.de/ www.globus-baumarkt.de/ www.bengs-modellbau.de/
Sir..im also planning to make this project..pls specify detail .. regarding it...does it work easily or any problem occurred?
@OkkiMoeljadi
5 жыл бұрын
Mine is not as easy as it looks. Pay attention to the details of my construction. Good luck with your project!
@shaikmohammedkhurram8144
5 жыл бұрын
Assalam alaykum please can you be in contact my WhatsApp number +918121562090
@shaikmohammedkhurram8144
5 жыл бұрын
@@OkkiMoeljadi i need details in dimensions ..
@shaikmohammedkhurram8144
5 жыл бұрын
@@OkkiMoeljadi my WhatsApp +918121562090
@OkkiMoeljadi
5 жыл бұрын
Wa'alaikumsalam. Please study the tutorial from Jimmy Demello. He posted and wrote some videos and articles. I built this toy according to his explanation. Dimensions are not important. You need to understand the behavior of a gyroscope.
Kenapa flywhel harus dikontrol bang? bukanya dia mencari keseimbangan sendiri?
@OkkiMoeljadi
5 жыл бұрын
Kalau tidak dikontrol nanti lama kelamaan akan jatuh.
use an elastic on slip joint
cikal bakal lit motor c1 , semoga kamu sukses dan mungkin bisa membuat lit motor c1 nya indonesia atau lebih... terus lah berusaha untuk membanggakan indonesia.
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
Amin. Terima kasih atas dukungannya.
great video sir! are you indonesian? as i heard some of bahasa in your vids :) anyway i've learn in a helicopter lesson, that because of gyro effect the resultan force would be differentiate 90° from the initial force (in single rotor helicopter), that is what makes cheap 4ch RC helicopter tilt the main rotor at strange angle for newbie hobbyist.. :) i guess it would be a great interest to see if you tilt the gyro on different axis such of left-right, instead of front-back axis.. maybe it can move the vehicle back and forth.. :)
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
Filipus Alexandro Thank you and yes I'm an Indonesian. The behavior of a gyroscope is quite interresting. I don't know if it is possible to use a gyroscope as a moving force. If I rotate the gyro mounting 90 degree (to make the gyro to tilt sideway to) to test your idea, I would also need more wheels on the platform to keep it upright. I don't think I would do that. What I want to do at the moment is to make this toy stay stable.
@chibiebil
7 жыл бұрын
You can use it as a moving force if you stop it immediately.
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, but I don't have time at the moment to develop such a control system. My target right now is to make a simple control system so that this platform can stay stable on two wheels.
@chibiebil
7 жыл бұрын
Okki Moeljadi Take a second one ;) Just watch the Cubli cube ... it can walk :D
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
I have seen that video.
what precession does if you lock gyro?
Good job making this!
@OkkiMoeljadi
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
You push gimbal at the most inclined state, But it is better when gimbal is holizon. I think.
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
YK Okay, I will try that. Thank you for your suggestion.
Can you help me making the same system but on a small bot toy please?
@OkkiMoeljadi
4 жыл бұрын
I have shared all information on this channel. If you need more info, you can read and watch articles and videos from Jimmy Demello. I built mine according to his tutorial.
Good work!
@OkkiMoeljadi
5 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
seberapa stabil sekarang? sistem pergerakan servonya terlalu kasar coba bikin dengan 2 gyro.... trus buat kontrol terpisah untuk kendaraannya... semacam RC motor pake gyro.... kalo bisa bner2 stabil... bisa di bikin prototype self balancing 2 wheel vehicle kembangkan terus... jgn stop di sini good luck
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
Sekarang masih sama. Saya belum punya waktu lagi untuk meneruskan pengembangan mainan ini. Terima kasih atas dukungannya. :)
Best!
gracias
Молодец
MANGSTABZ....., Orang Indonesia kah? berawal dari "Four Wheel Steering Sytem" terus ke two wheel steering" akhirnya nyampai juga ke detail gyro stabilizer untuk "Great JOB"
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
Siap, saya orang Indonesia. Kita tidak boleh ketinggalan dari bangsa lain. Tetap semangat!
How to make gyroscope please make it video upload
@saisindu2925
4 жыл бұрын
How to make gyroscope and mention it's dimensions
stick your fingers into the flywheel spokes, the arduino has a built-in braking protection circuit
@ruthcormack1765
Жыл бұрын
🤣
Hi Okki. Here is my latest effort: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e5iMpqmOlr2tc7w.html Am swinging a counterweight like the Schilovski gyrocar but what is interesting is that this is a bottom heavy gyro, both the motor and the rotor are below the gimbal axis. It needs some more tuning and I have a few other ideas to get it to into finer form. Almost gave up several times but finally got the PID working and I sort of know how it works, not all the technical details though. Also conquered the vibration problems I had using the VTI tilt sensor. Little by little.
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
Hi Jimmy. Your current version looks solid and stable. Congratulations! It seems that your gyro is much more balance than mine :). I think with bottom heavy configuration you don't have to monitor the gimbal angle which is a good thing. The gyro will always find its lowest (mid) angle by itself. If you can control the gimbal angle directly with a servo motor and PID controller it would be perfect, you will get miniature of C1. Unfortunately I still don't have time to implement my ideas with my gyro toy. I hope I can do it soon. Take care Jimmy!
@demej00
7 жыл бұрын
Wow, I installed 3 pots to dynamically control the PID parameters and tuned the system in just minutes. Much smoother, the weight moves very little to keep it balanced and it is fun to play with the parameters. Turns out I only need a P of 4.5 to work and the I and D are zero. This is awesome. Will post a new video in a few days.
@demej00
7 жыл бұрын
Couldn't wait a couple days, here is video with potentiometers: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pYSmlLujppSwhso.html Waiting now for a better ESC so can run the gyro up to 6 or 7000 rpm. Currently top speed is about 4000.
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
Hi Jimmy, what is the input of your PID controller other than tilt sensor at one end of your platform?
@demej00
7 жыл бұрын
Okki I am just using the tilt sensor (VTI SCA60), nothing else. I like these sensors because they just spit out the angle, no gyro/accelerometer integration required. I gotta go teach a class. Been spending way too much time on this but now its kind of fun.
AWESOME ASWELL SHOPPING TROLY WHEELS?
Is the motor for tilting a servo motor
@OkkiMoeljadi
5 жыл бұрын
Yes.
Super greenfuel.
I want the product
hey, can u share the codeings u used in arduino?
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
Yes, please give me your email.
@12345678910141121314
7 жыл бұрын
Okki Moeljadi vishnu_kill@yahoo.com
@12345678910141121314
7 жыл бұрын
thank u sooo much...
@OkkiMoeljadi
7 жыл бұрын
You're welcome
Pa alat beli dimana ?
nice
Aprobar con pesometro
Mantab bro👍
Can u sale a product to me
Lift the whole device with both hands and twist it the opposite way the gyro is spinning,see if it knocks you back like 'Sandy Kidd'
make this fly
Con quay hồi chuyển
FOR ALL THOUGHS FLATEARTHERS IF YOU COULD CONTROL THE RPM I BET IF IT WAS SPINING SLOWER THEN THE EARTH IT WOULD STOP ROATING
@Sachinkumar-ls7xy
6 жыл бұрын
kuch bol kar toh batya karo ki kya kar rahe ho plz
Jooss
Hi Okki. Haven't communicated with you lately. I just got a little self balancing robot going here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/doyNo8GnptHUoLA.html Copied someone else's code and it was extremely easy to implement. May use it on my gyroscope. Hope you are well.
@OkkiMoeljadi
6 жыл бұрын
Hi Jimmy. Your robot looks nice! Unfortunately I still don't have time to continue my gyro. Very busy with other projects lately. Hope you are also well Jimmy.
Orang mana pak? Asalnya?
@OkkiMoeljadi
5 жыл бұрын
Saya orang Indonesia, asal dari Jakarta.
@alfamoch1426
5 жыл бұрын
@@OkkiMoeljadi you make Indonesia proud of you
@OkkiMoeljadi
5 жыл бұрын
Terima kasih pak!
Need male and female gyro...law of nature
kuch bol kar toh batya karo ki kya kar rahe ho pls
THATS SO DANGEROUS TO HAVE IN A AIRPLANE
@rty1955
5 жыл бұрын
It has been in airplanes since Sperry gyroscope invented it. Still in planes today! Also in submarines and Ballistic mkssles until Sperry invented the ring laser gyro with no moving parts!
а суть этого говна на ардуино? как на костер пялиться?
Que merda é essa?
@idont3282
3 жыл бұрын
Sei não porra
@HAGARCIA
2 жыл бұрын
Seos 'boquinas sujas', isto é Momento angular constante fazendo com que o Momento de Inércia, da roda rodando, equilibre o patinete e até transladá-lo!
Almost Success = Faild...