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@hansvanheezen3568

5 ай бұрын

Hi Stan...what is your race and class ??

@Stan-KO

5 ай бұрын

HI@@hansvanheezen3568 and thanks for the comment. My main is a norn ranger, but I often play few other classes.

Really makes it much easier to figure out the mounts. Most guides take for granted that you know where locations are, I really appreciate showing you exactly where you need to go. Great guide.

@Stan-KO

Жыл бұрын

Hi mate, first thanks for the amazing comment. And yes, I totally agree that everyting should be made easy to understand, gw2 is very deep game and dont hold your hand. People with less free time , like me, struggle to find the right direction and fully enjoy the game, that`s why I started this channel. Ooo, man this comment is getting long, I will cut it here, one more time thnks 🙂👍

Honestly this is the BEST guide i have seen so far. Thank you for all the effort put in the video. Much appreciated 🙏

@Stan-KO

Жыл бұрын

Glad it helped and thanks for the comment 🙂🙂🙂👍

Got all the mounts now. Thanks my dude.

@Stan-KO

2 жыл бұрын

Happy to hear that mate. I still have to get the siege turtle :)

YOU CAN NOW GET THE RAPTOR AT LEVEL 10 AS A LEVEL UNLOCK IF YOU OWN POF IF YOU DON'T YOU CAN GET IT FOR 12 HOUR TRIAL!

@Aggrovious

Жыл бұрын

10 hours

Omg. Thank you so much. Very detailed, new Player blesses you Sir!

@Stan-KO

Жыл бұрын

Hi Michael, thanks for the nice words, I really appreciate it. I'm glad I could be of help to you. Don't hesitate to reach out if you have any more questions. Good luck on your adventures in GW2! 😀😀😀

Appreciate the help with this video my friend, subscribed and put the bell on so I can catch more videos from you in the future 👍 also love your comedy very funny lol

@Stan-KO

2 жыл бұрын

Hi mate, first thanks for the the sub, I really appreciate it. Second, words like yours are really big motivation for me to keep going with this endeavour of my. Thanks again and see you around 🔝🔝👍👍

Thank you sir and also the video was great quality subscribed my friend 👍

@Stan-KO

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the sub and the nice words mate, I really appreciate it👍👍

I already got a mount for buying path of fire, now looking forward to getting a glider from HoT and working towards these, thanks!

@Stan-KO

3 ай бұрын

Hi @JohnnyTightIips thanks for the comment and good luck in your GW2 adventures. If you have any questions don`t hesitate to ask I will be happy to answer :)

Thanks !

What profession are you playing in the vid?

I’m kinda stuck in the raptor faze, kinda hard to get my last mastery so I can jump higher and reacher the rabbit mount. Stuck in that area, can’t seem to figure a way out of it

@Stan-KO

2 жыл бұрын

Hmm,yes PoF tend to lock the progression behind the masteryes. Just explore the other maps until you get enough MP. Good luck 👍🙂

do i have to unlock the other mounts in order to get the skyscale mount? i already have the raptor. also great vid keep it up i subscribed

@Stan-KO

2 жыл бұрын

Hi mate, as far as I know no, you don`t need the other mouts to unlock skyscale.But, my advice is to unlock 1st springer, skimmer and jackal, those are easy to get. Unlocking skyscale is really long and time consuming journey. Thanks for the sub and good luck :)

This is the best guid for mounts!

@Stan-KO

Жыл бұрын

hi @blaze3495 , thanks for the comment and the nice words :)

THX

Hello @Stan-KO , I have a couple of questions: - I haven't bought any expansions. I want to buy one, only for the mount. Which expansion would you recommend? I am also into world completion so I thought the Griffin would be a very good mount. I also saw the Siege Turtle but it seems its a bit difficult to get? Which one would you recommend? - What do the masteries do for the mounts? Do I have to do them to use the mounts effectively or are they just extras? Are they difficult to do? - I'm still quite new to the game (started a week ago and I'm lvl 80 now lol), but it seems that Exotic gear is not really good enough? Do you have any tips for gear? People say I should just craft ascended but it seems really long grind and difficult steps. Thank you and like your videos :D:D:D

@Stan-KO

Жыл бұрын

Hi @Argo, first of all thanks for the comment and I'm really sorry I couldn't respond right away, it was a crazy week for me. Ok, expansions, if you buy Path of Fire you will also get Heart of Thorns, if you are not in a rush just wait for a discount and you can get them for around 15$. For now you don't need the last expansion End of Dragons, unless you have a lot of free time and you can go through all the content really fast. Mount, in the beginning you need only 2 of them, raptor and springer, the first one you will get directly after purchasing PoF expansion, for the second you will have to go through the content of PoF, like I demonstrated in the video above. The masteries are important, because they improve the mount's skills and abilities, sometimes the progression in PoF is locked behind the masteries, but not extremely hard to get, again you need PoF. WvW mount, for now there is only one mount that can be used in wvw and that is the Warclaw, this one is pretty easy to get, just follow the instructions in my video. The rest of the mounts CANNOT BE USED IN WVW. Gear, exotic is ok, just check for build on inet, keep in mind that the game can be separated on 4 components, pve, pvp, wvw, instance based (dungeons, fractals, raids), so a pve build will not work so well in wvw or pvp, build that do high dps in in raids will not work well in pve, pvp and so on. If you want to get ascended gear fast you should try fractals, they are really fun and also you will make a good amount of gold from them. For this content you will need a good build that fulfils a certain role (healer, support, dps) to help the party to clear the fractal. Ok, I think that's the longest response I wrote in my life 🙂. Good luck, have fun in GW2 and if you have more questions don't hesitate to ask me. 👍🙂🙃

@argo8407

Жыл бұрын

@Stan-KO thanks a lot! It doesnt matter the time, what matters, you responded. This will help me a lot. I've been doing dungeons and fractals (tier 1 dailies) so I guess I will just give myself into fractals. Again, thank you!!!

do the hearts only appear if you progress through the PoF questline? I just bought the expansion and immediately went down south for the skimmer but there were no heart quests there.

@Stan-KO

7 ай бұрын

Hi @ayzeyesice, Thanks for the comment and I hope this will answer your question "The ranch is surrounded by quicksand from the north and east, and a Raptor with Canyon Jumping is required to jump through this hazard. It is possible to reach this area through many other means, nevertheless, the required heart Use a skimmer to help with training around the ranch will not show up until you have trained the Canyon Jumping mastery."

@icedsanity

7 ай бұрын

@@Stan-KO thanks for the answer, i'm already on the canyon jumping mastery and i just need 2 more mastery points to finish it.

Hey i have a question, do you need any DLCs to be able to actually get any mount in the game? Thanks

@Stan-KO

Жыл бұрын

Hi mate, thanks for the comment. The short answer to your question is YES. You will need Path of Fire expansion to be able to unlock the mounts. If you are not in a rush you can wait for sale and get both HoT and PoF for more or less 15$. And one more advice, if you are really new to the game, first try it, max lvl a character, finish the free to play story and so on, and if the game appeal to you then invest in the expansion pack. Hope that helps and good luck :)

@FALLENZT1

Жыл бұрын

@@Stan-KO Yes it really helped me thank you so much :D

Thank a lot

@Stan-KO

8 ай бұрын

My pleasure :)

Thx bro for new player

@Stan-KO

Жыл бұрын

my pleasure,mate, welcome to GW2 :)

Did they nerf the raptors jump or something? Im new and have it but it cant jump even half that far. Ive tried pressing and holding both v and spacebar and never gotten a launch like that

@Stan-KO

9 ай бұрын

no, the raptor is not nerfed. the reason why you see other raptors having a longer jump is a POF mastery called "Canyon Jumping". Hope that info helps and don't worry there is nothing wrong with your raptor 😃

@hinglemacringleberry9004

9 ай бұрын

@@Stan-KO ah gotcha. I’m newer so I’m still getting the hang of things

@Stan-KO

9 ай бұрын

@@hinglemacringleberry9004 my pleasure, enjoy the game 😃

@unknownfs570

8 ай бұрын

was my problem too, maybe you should have mention it before @@Stan-KO

what is all the armor you have on ? looks great.

@Stan-KO

2 жыл бұрын

hi mate, the armor is mostly warbeast but I mix it a bit. Here a link to the wiki to chek it if you like wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Warbeast_armor

what was that radial that allowed you to get select a mount?

@Stan-KO

2 жыл бұрын

Hi mate, you can use gw2 addon manager and install easy radial menu for your mounts. Here is the link: github.com/gw2-addon-loader/GW2-Addon-Manager

@Boom1234UC

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stan-KO thx

@Stan-KO

2 жыл бұрын

@@Boom1234UC Np, my pleasure 🙃🙃👍

@Boom1234UC

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stan-KO do you think you could help because when i do alt+shift+m it just opens up my map i tried unbinding the map and oding it again but nothing happened

@Boom1234UC

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stan-KO nvm its working now

When I get PoF Ill go after mounts like crazy! Thanks for the vid

@Stan-KO

8 ай бұрын

My pressure. Thanks for the comment :)

At 8:00 how do you get mount wheel for your mounts?

@Stan-KO

7 күн бұрын

Hi @krisiraw95. Thanks for the comment, now download the gw2 addon manager from github.com/gw2-addon-loader/GW2-Addon-Manager/releases , it a zip file so you will have to extract it on you pc. Open it and form the menu chose Gw2 radial, then install. Then you will have to set it but it`s easy. with the addon manager you can also install arcdps if you need it :) Good luck and if you have more question join my discord i will be happy to answer discord.gg/7qS2gxU9eC ✌😀👍

@krisiraw95

7 күн бұрын

@@Stan-KO does this work through the steam version of the game ? Because I'm playing through steam not the arena net launcher

@Stan-KO

7 күн бұрын

Hmmmm, Hi again :) That`s a good question. Don`t see a reason why shouldn't work with steam, after all the files of the game are the same 🤔🤔 But honestly I don`t know. I guess you will have to try it. 🙂

@krisiraw95

7 күн бұрын

@@Stan-KO Just tested it out and it works perfectly ^^

@Stan-KO

6 күн бұрын

hehey, nice 🙃🙂🙌

Can we get any free mounts without buying expansions?

@Stan-KO

Жыл бұрын

the short answer is NO, but like I said many times before, you don't need a mount to enjoy the base game. The mount system came to GW2 in 2017 with the third exp. so that`s make 5 years without mounts and we still enjoyed the game like we do now :)

@Dark_Wizard_of_Mu

Жыл бұрын

there is a free time trial raptor after reaching level 10

Do I need all mount to get griffin?

@Stan-KO

2 жыл бұрын

Hi mate, is good if you have at least skimmer and springer. The skimmer will negated the lighting strikes from the Fury of the Brand. Springer will help you clime and navigate true the mountain area. ADVICE get first 3 mounts,they are easy to get, collect 250g and after that start working on griffin. Aaaaa,also you have to completing the Path of Fire storyline. Good luck :)

@beanzy1891

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stan-KO thank you!!! I’m new to this game any tips on getting gold? Or do you have video already? And I subscribed!

@Stan-KO

2 жыл бұрын

@@beanzy1891 thanks for the sub I really appreciate it and for the great idiea for video ""Gw2 gold making for beginners" , its already in my long to do list :) Ok I will try to keep this short: 1st daily log in event if you don't play you get daily reward, especially the mystic coins, you can receive 20 through every 28 day login rewards cycle, you will also get some mats. Sell or keep up to you. 2nd. do your your dailies, easy to 2 gold. 3rd. check in google the Time gated recipes liket Heat Stone for example, if you can craft it those items sell very well on the TP [ btw this how I make my gold when I need it] 4th. do Fractals, they are really fun and rewarding 5th. do the World boss events and also Silverwastes map events are really god for new players. Try these for now :)

@beanzy1891

2 жыл бұрын

@@Stan-KO no problem and thanks for the help! I appreciate it!!!

@Violetbunnyfish

Жыл бұрын

You need springer, skimmer and raptor. You don't need the jackal, although you can use it if you have it.

250 gold? I may never financially recover from this griffin.

@Stan-KO

Жыл бұрын

Hi mate, first thanks for the comment. Don`t worry so much about the gold making, later on it`s easier. Try fractals, you can make pretty good gold income from them, you can also push to Icebrood saga to unlock the strike missions, also nice and easy income. The last tip is that in reality you just need raptor and springer, both with mastery maxed out. Just take it slow and enjoy the game. Good luck :)

@CowCast

Жыл бұрын

@@Stan-KO thank you for the reply! I will do as you say. I am enjoying the game very much.

Seems like this guide is outdated already. So I was trying to get the Springer, and the event isn't there. And when I "talked" to the Spingers, it says that I need to master Raptor first, which meant I need to finish that first mission for Path of Fire. I'll check tomorrow if I can already get the Springer after unlocking the first mastery for the Raptor, maybe that's enough to get the Springer

@Stan-KO

8 ай бұрын

hI @halfblue2678 , I will answer to your comment with a question. Are you ready? :) Why do you think the order the mounts are ordered this way in my guide? :) Normally you need raptor with Canyon Jumping mastery to get to the the Highjump Ranch. It is possible to reach this area through many other means; nevertheless, the required heart Help out around Highjump Ranch will not show up until you have trained the Canyon Jumping mastery. Completing the Renown Heart allows you to unlock the mount. Now you know what you did wrong :) Dont be lazy go get the raptor, the work on the Canyon Jumping mastery. Btw thanks for the comment and better luck next time :P :) ✌👍

@halfblue2678

8 ай бұрын

@@Stan-KO oh, you seem to not know how things work currently huh? So I just created my account a few weeks ago, and you might be surprised about this, the game gave me the Raptor on day one. I didn't have to do that lvl 80 quest you mentioned. IIRC, I just need to finish a quest in the starting town and I already got the Raptor. Some good samaritan helped me cross the canyon jump when they were helping me get the hero points on that area. I'm not sure if that affected the Springer quest. I guess I can't cheese my way to get the mount. But it seems that someone needs the Path of Fire expansion to level up your Raptor mastery, which is a shame. I guess the devs just wanted to be generous and gave the Raptor for free now and just made it so that, if they really wanted to, the players can pay for the expansion to unlock the masteries

@Stan-KO

8 ай бұрын

@@halfblue2678 Heh ok :) read again my 1st reply carefully. you will need the 3rd mastery unlocked not only the 1st. But you know, do as you please :)

What wings are those?? They look awesome

@Stan-KO

Жыл бұрын

hi mate, this is Vermilion Wings Backpack skin and yes it`s cool looking :P

is the video on shakira coming out anytime soon ?

@Stan-KO

7 ай бұрын

Definitely I have to do something about the one and only secret love in my life "Sha.., Shaa.., Shakira :)

Can you get mounts in the free to play GW2?

@Stan-KO

4 ай бұрын

Hi mate. Unfortunately you can`t get mount in the free version.

@snakejuce

4 ай бұрын

@@Stan-KO Thanks for the response. Yeah I figured it out after researching the name of the expansion.

@Stan-KO

4 ай бұрын

@@snakejuce Btw if you are not in rush and you can wait until next sale, you can get the first 2 expacs for 7-8$

@snakejuce

4 ай бұрын

@@Stan-KO Ah, okay. Interesting. I just got my raptor mount today as well lol 🙃

The springer heart is not there

@Stan-KO

Жыл бұрын

impossible, you are missing somthing. Check this link it may help you: wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Help_out_around_Highjump_Ranch

with current exchange rate where im from, 30dollars is not cheap at all.

@Stan-KO

Жыл бұрын

Hi @crewcutter2030 just a tip how the get HoT and PoF expansions cheaper. Open the GW2 buy now page with Microsoft edge and look for a small blue ticket in right side of the URL bar, click and you will see 50% discount coupon. Pls, let me know if it worked for you, good luck .

We can get all that right?

@Stan-KO

10 ай бұрын

Yes you can, but you will need the POF expansion and you will not get all the mounts at once. If you are a new player and you have POF expa. you will get a raptor at lvl 10 on a single character, if I remember correct. Hope that short info helps. If you have more question pls ask, but be more specific :)

@rtheactech

10 ай бұрын

@@Stan-KO alright...grinding time.

@Stan-KO

10 ай бұрын

@@rtheactech Yeap mate, it takes time, but the it definitely worth it. What mount you will grind for?

best guide for a ...crappy mount system. but srsly, thanks for the guide

@Stan-KO

8 ай бұрын

It is what it is dude we cant change it

Me almost buying tickets to Shakira: I shouldnt???

@Stan-KO

Жыл бұрын

Shakira always worth to be seeing 🤓

i bought the latest dlc , game still says that i need a dlc to use multiple things as mounts blabla , on my F2P account i have a mount lol , and on my account with latest dlc i have not .. makes no sense at all for me , same for masteries it says i need to upgrade and buy a dlc but i have done that... weird game , looks so good but yeahhh i dont get it. if someone knows tell me plz :p

@Stan-KO

11 ай бұрын

Hi mate, yeah I know gw2 can be a bit wierd. To get the mounts from the video you need Path of Fire expansión. With End of dragons you can get only the siege turtle. Hope that helps, gl.

Note: new player here, I got the raptor mount at level 10 for nothing

@Stan-KO

8 ай бұрын

Yes you can have it, if you have Path of Fire expansion. But this was not like before the End of Dragons came out 😉😀✌

@Delarunee

8 ай бұрын

@@Stan-KO beside raptor all others mounts are for lvl 80?

@Stan-KO

8 ай бұрын

hi@@Delarunee, this is very good question and really made me wonder. So, I did some research and its true, the springer, skimmer and the jackal they need lvl 80 character. Now the funny part is that rest of the mounts don't have this requirement. Probably the logic behind is that leveling in gw2 is pretty easy and fast, and if work on skyscale or griffin you would be lvl 80 anyway. 🙂🙂✌👍

250 gold 🤔🤔🤔🤔 I have a lv 80 character I been playing for a while now and I only have 17 gold and... is not going up anymore... crazy ha...🤨 I don't think I will be flying any time soon... maybe in 2 ,3 years from now 🤨

@Stan-KO

Жыл бұрын

Hi mate, first of all thanks for the comment,, I really appreciate it. Then from your words I can make the conclusion that you are new player. If so and if you didn't finish the core game story there is no need to rush through POF expansion just to get flying mount. Take it slow, play the main story, finish the HoT exp., tjere you will unlock gliding another way to fly in the GW2. And yes the new players dont make a lot of gold early on but that changes later on. Good luck and enjoy the game, dont rush it ☺️☺️

@EndllessGamess

Жыл бұрын

@@Stan-KO I see !Ty !

@Dark_Wizard_of_Mu

Жыл бұрын

250 gold is easy even casual player playing 1 to 2 hrs a day can get it in 2 weeks. the community is helpful dont forget to ask help in mapchat someone generous enough can give you gold its true.

I get that they obviously want people to actually pay or the game. But couldn't they AT LEAST give one beginner mount for all f2p at a specific level... like 40 or 50 or something? Maybe they even have, but the game is really, really confusing to a new player... so I might have completely missed it.

@Stan-KO

8 ай бұрын

You are right mate , GW2 doesn't hold your hand. The mount system was added to the game with the 3 expac, similar to what New World is doing now.

Where the fuck is it

Would be great if someone explained how the fuck to get to these places

@Stan-KO

Жыл бұрын

You need the expansion Path of Fire

a " Charr actor "?

@Stan-KO

Жыл бұрын

Actually for this one I thing I used my Norn Ranger🤔🙂

All follow the same formula it’s seems annoying quest then gold 😂

@Dark_Wizard_of_Mu

Жыл бұрын

It's not annoying if you play the story in order. each mount has a lore behind them that's why you need to do quests.

Hot accent

@Stan-KO

2 жыл бұрын

I guess, that's my best trait 😅😅😅

I've watched about 10 video guieds about mounts and you are the first who mention that I need to buy expansion to get mounts... So every GW2 preacher who said that the game isn't gated behind paywalls is actually lying...

@Stan-KO

Жыл бұрын

Hi mate, I think every free2play game is somehow pay gated. Also the mounts was one of key futures of the 2rd expansion PoF, before that there were no mounts in GW2. Just a tip, you dont need mount to move faster in the game use rune of speed +skills that give swiftness + high mobility weapon skills. Good luck and thanks for the comment, appreciate it 👍👍🙂

@melexkrieger7254

Жыл бұрын

Grind wasted! Mount is quicker way to traverse the map in high speed. I played this game for 2 days and the only way to get mount is path of fire expansion pack which needs 💵💵💵. I remove the game after knowing the painful truth

@WolfanTerror

Жыл бұрын

@@melexkrieger7254 oh boo hoo The game is brilliant even without mounts... But I guess if you care so much it's better off you don't play at all

@berkesen1248

Жыл бұрын

@@melexkrieger7254 bruh this game is literally the cheapiest mmorpg of all times, you just need to buy the expansions, there is no monthly pay or anything and expansions are really cheap too so i dont know why you guys are complaining

@berkesen1248

Жыл бұрын

@@melexkrieger7254 dude it's 30 dollars for 2 DLC if i remember correctly, how poor are you?

Saw how much BS i had to endure just to get a flying mount... nvm, gave up. Id rather spend 100 bucks so I could get a flying mount instead of running around in an empty map.

@Dark_Wizard_of_Mu

Жыл бұрын

what mounts do you still lack? i can help you if you are in NA.

gw2 has become angel wars 2 with everyone having wings as a trend. Seriously looks lame

@Stan-KO

8 ай бұрын

Just turn them off, it so easy :P

I'll never understand KZreadrs spending the first 2 minutes of their video telling me what they are about to tell me about. Just f'n get to it

I know there has to be a way to make money out of a game for developers but like this? It is kind of not nice... forcing f2p players to suffer without mounts. Either pay keep walking and spamming your boring skills for about like half hour to reach your destination isn't nice. You can't compare maxed out raptor to normal walking with swiftness or anything.

@Dark_Wizard_of_Mu

Жыл бұрын

are you still f2p? because if you want to enjoy f2p only pvp will give you the sense of balance in this game. you can pvp at lvl 1 and your level is adjusted to max at 80. however, if you go pve, sadly you need all expansions to unlock these mounts.

wasted 60 gb downloading now i have to pay money for expansion to get mount nice free to play

@Dark_Wizard_of_Mu

Жыл бұрын

That's stupid reasoning. Fyi it's a 1 time purchase only unlike subscription based mmos. The game doesn't have advertisements and developers need money to improve the game and pay hosting servers. There's also a free time trial raptor after reaching level 10.

you missed important information, unless your other mounts are lvl'ed up you won't get the Jackle. you did not point out ANY use full INFORMATION BASIC GUIDE at best. No information on Mastery points or lvl'n up each mount BASIC information #Clickbate

@Stan-KO

Жыл бұрын

ok, don't see how 15 min long video that took hours and hours to be made, that contain ton of useful information and already helped so many people is a CLICKBAIT. Then also ask yourself the questions: 1. Why the video was build like that... 1 Rator. 2 Springer 3 Skimmer ...?!?! :) 2. What`s is the name of the video? Is it "How to get mastery points fo mounts" or is " How to get the mounts"...!?!? Also, this guide, like most guides on my channel, was build to provide direction for the players not to solve every little problem that they may encounter. Anyway thanks for your time and opinion and gl :)

@bereal2479

Жыл бұрын

@@Stan-KO Don't listen to these haters, video Is great mate. Keep up the good work.

@anonymouschicken7316

Жыл бұрын

@@Stan-KO anyone will always try to find something to seemlessly critisize you on. The videos great and I thank you for your hard work for us as the community. Keep it up!! 🔥

@firstchapter3801

Жыл бұрын

This is a good video for "Where to find the mounts" but i have to agree with @gavwyatt5314. I'm a new player so i jumped in game did the main quest till the part with the springer and found out I have to lvl raptor's mastery to get across the jump. How am I to know that from your video as a new player? Cause it says, " For all the new players looking for mount, this easy-to-follow guide will help you to unlock fast every mount in Guild Wars 2". and again, it's not a bad video and no one is trying to be a hater on it, just need a tiny bit more info for very new players like me to understand. so as of right now im running around jumping on raptor and looking for mastery points so i can make the jump. AND AGAIN still a good video.

man why does my raptor feel so slow compared to his 🥲

@Stan-KO

7 ай бұрын

do you have the Canyon Jumping mastery, it make the raptor to leap further?