Guns N' Roses: Whatever Happened to Stephanie Seymour

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  • @katewithat
    @katewithat2 жыл бұрын

    "Useless" LOL I love Slash

  • @beetledune9264
    @beetledune92643 жыл бұрын

    She just used him as a stepping stone,but now she also nowhere to be found.girl like that come and go,the rockstar stay.

  • @rockerstreet8743
    @rockerstreet87434 жыл бұрын

    Axl should’ve just married Slash instead

  • @cheeseontoast3434

    @cheeseontoast3434

    4 жыл бұрын

    I agree

  • @sweetbitter2

    @sweetbitter2

    4 жыл бұрын

    Rockerstreet87 Slash is Axl’s true love!

  • @tieukhavu8832

    @tieukhavu8832

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@sweetbitter2 It's a Fromance (Friendship and Romance)

  • @NOMAAM1970

    @NOMAAM1970

    3 жыл бұрын

    Axl did used to say back in the early days that he and slash were married. Jokingly of course but I thought it was adorable.

  • @tieukhavu8832

    @tieukhavu8832

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@NOMAAM1970 It's a Fromance.kzread.info/dash/bejne/noBorpaOppjYlpM.html

  • @moonlightsonata8002
    @moonlightsonata8002 Жыл бұрын

    At the end of that song, This I Love, [Axl] he was repeating the... It was like “I love you, Stephanie” or “This I love, Stephanie.” He was, like, whispering it at the end of the song. And he heard it and he goes, “Just erase all that.” I was like, “Do you want me to back it up?” “No, erase it!” And he yelled and walked out of the room. So Kenny there, the assistant, and I said, “We’re gonna erase something GNR fans are never ever gonna hear. Like, they’re never gonna hear this.” - Dave Dominguez (studio engineer)

  • @pennyc11
    @pennyc11 Жыл бұрын

    Hard to be lucky in love when you grew up without it.😢 Drugs mess up so many hurt people.😢

  • @snakefinger
    @snakefinger5 жыл бұрын

    Slash nailed it “useless”

  • @SoccerStan98

    @SoccerStan98

    4 жыл бұрын

    @No you didn’t !!!!! you must be so fucking successful for calling a rockstar loser

  • @sweetbitter2

    @sweetbitter2

    4 жыл бұрын

    S҉N҉A҉K҉E҉F҉I҉N҉G҉E҉R҉ yeah. To this day I can’t understand the obsession Axl had with her.

  • @carolinacrapisi9860

    @carolinacrapisi9860

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@sweetbitter2veramente axl rose la tradiva continuamente era legata più a suo figlio che a lei

  • @johnnymarlin1283
    @johnnymarlin12835 жыл бұрын

    She brought her mother to stay at AXLs place which drove him mad.And she cheated on him with Warren Bratty while he was on tour.This woman is pure venom for any man.

  • @NOMAAM1970

    @NOMAAM1970

    5 жыл бұрын

    No she dated Warren prior to Axl.

  • @matth.7276

    @matth.7276

    5 жыл бұрын

    Nope, and she cheated on Axl with many men. For instance, she cheated on Axl with Charlie Sheen.

  • @matth.7276

    @matth.7276

    5 жыл бұрын

    Stephanie Seymour briefly dated Warren Beatty following her divorce from guitarist Tommy Andrews in 1991. Axl got in a relationship with Stephanie while she was in a relationship with Warren, so she cheated on both Axl and Warren.

  • @matth.7276

    @matth.7276

    5 жыл бұрын

    Axl didn’t know about her being with another man when they first met, and he also didn’t know about her cheating on him until a few weeks after they were engaged in 1993.

  • @ceilconstante7813

    @ceilconstante7813

    4 жыл бұрын

    @God bless USA she might be a wonderful person but she has a history of cheating

  • @Watergrovey
    @Watergrovey3 жыл бұрын

    “Slash went to bat for Axl”:... (10 seconds of pure silence). Epic!

  • @joannep3437
    @joannep34374 жыл бұрын

    From Axl Rose to Peter Brant... wonder what the motivation was?$?$?$

  • @jantheman2
    @jantheman25 жыл бұрын

    Her booze/drug habits seem to have plagued both relationships.

  • @jantheman2

    @jantheman2

    5 жыл бұрын

    Pretty sure Axl was the most sober one of the group, which is why all the drugs antics of the other members caused so much friction in the band.

  • @adamgriffith-smith9106

    @adamgriffith-smith9106

    5 жыл бұрын

    nobody nobody actually Axl never had a problem, he always had his substance use under control

  • @reaverteamspirit

    @reaverteamspirit

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@nobodynobody3182 He literally threatened to quit the band if "certain members didn't stop dancing with Mr. Brownstone" and then, in another concert years later, stated that hard drugs and partying-- "that shit don't work for me no more."

  • @iammisanthrope7764
    @iammisanthrope77645 жыл бұрын

    Boy. She is not the "Angel" I was taught to believe. No matter. Axl is the Man no matter what.

  • @josipag2185
    @josipag218510 ай бұрын

    She used Axl. I think she was and still is bad person. So sad for Axl to make a bond with her son, that was painful for him, he was in a such a fragile place after divorce and Erin losing their baby. Anyhow, after hearing all, knowing her past with Casablancas, and her husband cheatings, her drugs and alcohol problems, her being Trump girl, Axl doged a bullet there.

  • @reaverteamspirit
    @reaverteamspirit5 жыл бұрын

    I've noticed a trend of female teenage GN'R fans loving Stephanie, and I'll never get why. Her entire career was built on how many men she and her mother slept with, it's really not that impressive. Hope she's enjoying sleeping with the man who married her for a trophy. (Amusingly, I wrote this before watching the video and seeing the part about Peter having a bust made of her. /Trophy./ No personality required.) I know Axl's better off, anyway.

  • @maggiemae7749

    @maggiemae7749

    4 жыл бұрын

    @God bless USA did she get off the booze?

  • @sweetbitter2

    @sweetbitter2

    4 жыл бұрын

    April Tackett I don’t think she care tbh. She seems to have daddy issues. She had an affair as teenager with John Casablancas.

  • @hemkarki9378

    @hemkarki9378

    3 жыл бұрын

    @No you didn’t !!!!! How many times did she get arrested after married to peter?

  • @AnnemarieMay

    @AnnemarieMay

    10 ай бұрын

    Definitely better off alone than with bad women he got involved with. He may g ind a good one yet and be happy in his senior years, even have or adopt kids, if he wants children.

  • @josipag2185

    @josipag2185

    10 ай бұрын

    No, fans hate her. She wasn't even inspirative like Erin, in those videoa she had the Erin part, not hers.

  • @nathanmcclellan8078
    @nathanmcclellan80784 жыл бұрын

    Brant / Seymour...they finally saw how evil the other one was and THAT was a huge turn on.

  • @scholarwork6060

    @scholarwork6060

    2 жыл бұрын

    LMAO misery loves assholery

  • @simongunner5327
    @simongunner53275 жыл бұрын

    What’s Izzy ‘s story these days? He’s dissapeared off the face of the earth

  • @joannep3437

    @joannep3437

    3 жыл бұрын

    He’s on Serius (can’t remember channel #, sorry) where he hosts, ‘2 chords and a Truth’. It’s kinda lame but once in a while, the musics ok.

  • @aaronbickford8725

    @aaronbickford8725

    3 жыл бұрын

    Joanne P Actually, that’s Duff McKagan’s show.

  • @MCC4RTHY1
    @MCC4RTHY15 жыл бұрын

    Can’t hear the interview at all. Please dub

  • @ancistark
    @ancistark9 ай бұрын

    Fortunately Axl is over Stephanie. If she hadn't starred in Guns videos and dated Axl nobody would know about her today.

  • @jokerhere4504
    @jokerhere45045 жыл бұрын

    Can you re do this video you can’t hear the interview

  • @scholarwork6060
    @scholarwork60602 жыл бұрын

    It's not easy being told you are beautiful every second of the day.

  • @serfranklin6022
    @serfranklin60222 жыл бұрын

    In late 80's/early 90's she was In my opinion easily the most beautiful one out of the supermodels group of her era, namely Cindy Crawford, Claudia Schiffer, Linda Evangelista, Naomi Campbell, Christy Turlington, Helena Christensen and few others

  • @carolinacrapisi9860

    @carolinacrapisi9860

    7 ай бұрын

    😂😂😂😂 forse vuoi dire la più brutta modella di quei tempi gambe a ics

  • @carolinacrapisi9860

    @carolinacrapisi9860

    3 ай бұрын

    La più bella 😂😂😂😂😂forse una delle più brutte di quei tempi 😂😂😂😂

  • @icoronado8181
    @icoronado81815 жыл бұрын

    Where's Slash? Cant hear the first interview w/ Howard Stern.

  • @GothicaBeauty
    @GothicaBeauty4 жыл бұрын

    I didn’t think she was that pretty.

  • @ciccone39
    @ciccone395 жыл бұрын

    What about Axl's anti-Warren Beatty rant in Paris '92 which was supposedly connected to Ms. Seymour?

  • @msmetal5524
    @msmetal55245 жыл бұрын

    Team Erin all the way.. never a big fan of Stephanie..

  • @matth.7276

    @matth.7276

    5 жыл бұрын

    Erin was abusive and continued to be after her divorce from Axl. For example, Erin attacked her boyfriend, named Matthew, with a knife. Erin and Stephanie aren’t good for Axl... People should bring healthy happiness when apart of an individual’s life, and none of those women did that in the end for Axl.

  • @tieukhavu8832

    @tieukhavu8832

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@matth.7276 Axl should end up with Guns N Roses.

  • @sweetbitter2

    @sweetbitter2

    4 жыл бұрын

    Matt H. Looks like Axl only attracts bat shit crazy women.

  • @RRRRRaa
    @RRRRRaa2 жыл бұрын

    'Peter the Second', good grief. I wonder what she saw in billionaire art collector Peter Brant.

  • @bigtimbo4236
    @bigtimbo4236 Жыл бұрын

    Hey! You're the guy from Rock & Roll Stories! I subscribe to that channel!

  • @joshgates
    @joshgates5 жыл бұрын

    Great video, but the audio vol is very inconsistent bro.

  • @cantana291
    @cantana2913 жыл бұрын

    I feel sorry for the kids in that family 😥

  • @henria.5441

    @henria.5441

    2 жыл бұрын

    Peter’s oldest with Sandy and his oldest with Stephanie both ODed. Sad for the family.

  • @Gigi1111Layna

    @Gigi1111Layna

    Жыл бұрын

    @@henria.5441 That's very sad to hear...didn't know that. Allegedly Stephanie also would partake in the snow quite often. But very sad indeed. Is that Peter Jr and his other son from his first!? Or Stephanie's son Dylan??

  • @josipag2185

    @josipag2185

    10 ай бұрын

    ​@@Gigi1111Layna It was his and Stephanie's oldest, not Dylan.

  • @maryduarte3248
    @maryduarte32483 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing

  • @roverwaters3875
    @roverwaters38754 жыл бұрын

    since 1993 she ingested ~45kg of "seaman", which is translated into a few million dollars in her pocket.

  • @AnnemarieMay

    @AnnemarieMay

    10 ай бұрын

    Wow! That is one hell of a lot of 'see-man'. See man, must have man... The more the better. Must be the secret beauty trick these super model beauties rely on, to make so much money doing nothing, bein nothing, knowing nothing, no talents, other than sex. Guess that's a skill, of sorts...

  • @bmc868
    @bmc8687 ай бұрын

    Axel was the true victim of these gold digger.....

  • @antonrazzouk6767
    @antonrazzouk67675 жыл бұрын

    Whatever happened to Erin Everly ?

  • @davidlalhmingmawia2388
    @davidlalhmingmawia23885 жыл бұрын

    Erin Everly is sooooo beautiful....she's the sweet child of mine

  • @Eden639
    @Eden63913 күн бұрын

    We can’t hear the sound of Slashes interview part.

  • @gypsytreasures3856
    @gypsytreasures38564 жыл бұрын

    No audio on slah interview

  • @AndyKraig-np5qj
    @AndyKraig-np5qj11 ай бұрын

    What happened to Erin? Can you do a story on her?

  • @stevenmiskelley1022
    @stevenmiskelley10223 жыл бұрын

    Hey can you do whatever happen to Axl’s bodyguard I think they called him Tiny.

  • @StarmanBuckRogers
    @StarmanBuckRogers4 жыл бұрын

    Met them while they were together in Agoura Ca!!! Nice AF!! Met nic cage and Lisa Marie Presley in Hollywood CA! Nice AF!!! PRENUPS!!? Hahahaha Hahahaha

  • @janetg.
    @janetg. Жыл бұрын

    Having grown up with Stephanie and always being in her shadow ( being real here, no hate), she had so many opportunities because she was so beautiful and I really feel that her era of modeling, pageants, etc., were the first time facial beauty was so emphasized and highly valued in our culture and society. Every regular household girl was always compared to her beauty and that is truth. Knowing that one of her sons is no longer here, is very depressing and I feel sad for her.

  • @celineellalheen9723

    @celineellalheen9723

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm not trying to be cruel but I am French. The only stuff Seymour was famous here for was a cheap add for a alcoolol free beverage. The "facial beauty emphatization" may be true between Detroit and Chicago...but here in Europe, that era had started in the late 60's with models such as Twiggy etc. No offense but Seymour NEVER played on the same level that Turlington, Schiffer or Campbell. She was perfectly wiped out the supermodel wave in the early 90's, her career notoriously died with Gianni Versace who was the only one who took her seriously after the late 80's. That's probably why she hurried to settle with the man she settled with.

  • @Gigi1111Layna

    @Gigi1111Layna

    Жыл бұрын

    @@celineellalheen9723 Very true. Versace was a huge fan of hers but she was no Helena Christiansen or Evangelista.. and those you mentioned. I met her when I was only 15 almost 16 and had a chaperone to work. She's quite a mean unfriendly person. Compared to the others. I'm so glad I left that world for the music biz, international tours PA. Enjoyed that and left to have my baby girl.

  • @alicerinaldi4408

    @alicerinaldi4408

    Жыл бұрын

    @@celineellalheen9723 I agree

  • @alicerinaldi4408

    @alicerinaldi4408

    Жыл бұрын

    with @Gigi1111Layna

  • @AnnemarieMay

    @AnnemarieMay

    10 ай бұрын

    Stephanie who, what? I'd never even heard of her or seen her images until recently and I didn't think she was anything that special to look at as a female. There were/are so many far more seriously beautiful females out there, not all of them in the public eye, not trying to grab public attention because some very beautiful women also have very beautiful feminine, modest etc personalities and hate beings objects of lustful, envious male or female public attention. They have better things to do, ways to be female than resort yo that as a way to be something, as a woman. A woman is simply special because she is a fine female gender human. No need to prove anything to anybody or to the public. She just is and that's all there is to it. If only girls could understand this true essence of womanhood they'd be far better females, happier, l ess female stressed out trying to be what they are not and there is no need to be, anyway. If a man is going to love you, he will, regardless. If he doesn't love, want, value,like, respect you as a female, you can't make him. Like most females believe they can. Best bet is dump him, go find one who can naturally love you. It's so so easy. Like Axl sings. So why complicate it all, make it so hard on yourself as a female? Plenty of male fish in the sea, all dying to be caught, made a meal of. By you. Just avoid the toxic ones, though, girls...Know your fish types well before consuming.Some can make you very ill, even fatally... Ha ha..

  • @AnnemarieMay
    @AnnemarieMay10 ай бұрын

    That's not so. Heaps of people come from tragic, unloved childhoods but finally find others to love and have great loving relationships.

  • @ciccone39
    @ciccone395 жыл бұрын

    GNRCentral, whatever happened to Axl's bodyguard Earl?

  • @RockNRollTrueStories2

    @RockNRollTrueStories2

    5 жыл бұрын

    he retired but he was at coachella i think. i remember seeing slash and meegan with him

  • @sweetbitter2

    @sweetbitter2

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ciccone39 yes yes yes. Earl was adorable.

  • @adamfrbs9259
    @adamfrbs92595 жыл бұрын

    Her step mom ran a small business in my town for years.

  • @rickyjackson1258
    @rickyjackson12584 жыл бұрын

    Cliffs notes: bitches be crazy.

  • @zimonslot
    @zimonslot Жыл бұрын

    We’ll never know what Slash said.. 🤦🏼‍♂️

  • @AndyKraig-np5qj
    @AndyKraig-np5qj11 ай бұрын

    Erin was so much prettier

  • @renaz630
    @renaz630 Жыл бұрын

    I'm glad she moved on with her life.

  • @mamumaumau7205
    @mamumaumau72054 ай бұрын

    I like the story about Stephanie driving her very expensive sports car into a swamp after some drama with Axel....I think that this was the begining of the end for these two !!!!!!!!!

  • @LuckyChoo
    @LuckyChoo Жыл бұрын

    I would have thought he was like cursing swearing words in the end of the song, which he may have had said to delete those words. That could be why I seemed to like that song (This I Love). 😈

  • @run4funs24
    @run4funs245 жыл бұрын

    She 6 feet under, buried right in my backyard..

  • @veronicalloyd7902
    @veronicalloyd79025 жыл бұрын

    Axl Rose has moved on..

  • @Vee_H.

    @Vee_H.

    5 жыл бұрын

    Maybe yes. Maybe no. Has axl been with anyone else for long term since then?

  • @adamgriffith-smith9106

    @adamgriffith-smith9106

    5 жыл бұрын

    Vince H there’s been pictures of him with other women throughout the years, most notably from 2006-2007. You could say they’re friends but one he’s holding hands with her and another getting kissed on the cheek.

  • @elinjohansson4184

    @elinjohansson4184

    5 жыл бұрын

    It takes two to tango. Don't think being with Axl is particularly easy, so maybe it's not so much his own choice not to be with anyone long term. Highly doubt it has anything to do with his relationship with Stephanie, after all this time.

  • @veronicalloyd7902

    @veronicalloyd7902

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@elinjohansson4184 Being with any rock star is not easy..

  • @kristinkelley167

    @kristinkelley167

    5 жыл бұрын

    I think he is more fucked up over Erin

  • @devynglass3781
    @devynglass37814 жыл бұрын

    I hate when women try to get shit that isn’t there’s!

  • @dizziemisslizzie4040

    @dizziemisslizzie4040

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣 theirs!

  • @cindymccomb4531
    @cindymccomb45316 ай бұрын

    She is a pure gold digger

  • @renaz630
    @renaz630 Жыл бұрын

    Can't hear anything Slash said

  • @er.amitmaitraakm4158
    @er.amitmaitraakm41584 жыл бұрын

    Wants to watch a movie on their live life.

  • @smbrTube
    @smbrTube2 жыл бұрын

    Fix ‘yo mix! 😂

  • @sagephillip6119
    @sagephillip61195 жыл бұрын

    👍

  • @terabenesch5253
    @terabenesch5253 Жыл бұрын

    Stephanie has a very weird relationship with her adult kids. That is all I wanted to add.

  • @janetsaladino322
    @janetsaladino3223 жыл бұрын

    I think axl love Stephanie 💔💞 they alone know why they broke up. but they would have continued very happy 😃😔

  • @junosmith4687
    @junosmith46873 жыл бұрын

    CROON!!!

  • @rob-robi
    @rob-robi4 жыл бұрын

    So Stephanie has been basically living the extreme good life all her life. Good for her, it's not easy being a stunning model LOL , every guy lies to you every minute, you walk into a coffee shop guys lie to you and show you endless attention, you walk out of a clothing store it's the same, the moment she's in public men are chasing her. etc. I've known a couple girls as pretty as her almost and every move them make in public gets unending male attention . It's quite fascinating to witness in fact. My attention also . . She's gorgeous

  • @spiritanimal8836
    @spiritanimal88363 жыл бұрын

    Axl rulez

  • @luisfer14240
    @luisfer142403 жыл бұрын

    👍🏻

  • @redlipsblacklace3373
    @redlipsblacklace33735 жыл бұрын

    This is b s. Why should she get her DUI her husband PAYED it off

  • @user-ty2xv6xw8j

    @user-ty2xv6xw8j

    8 ай бұрын

    Yeah, my sister didn't!! Not cool 😢 And my niece had just ended her own life 😢

  • @sunceulavu3683
    @sunceulavu36835 жыл бұрын

    Love her

  • @benmidgley1419

    @benmidgley1419

    5 жыл бұрын

    ... But I had to kill her

  • @saidiejimenez4531

    @saidiejimenez4531

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@sunceulavu3683 it's a song by gnr

  • @sunceulavu3683

    @sunceulavu3683

    5 жыл бұрын

    @declan jarvis I love her because for her work,she is one of the most beautiful supermodels .Her private life is her problem.

  • @sunceulavu3683

    @sunceulavu3683

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@saidiejimenez4531 Ok ,thank you

  • @sunceulavu3683

    @sunceulavu3683

    5 жыл бұрын

    @declan jarvisWhy sorry🙄

  • @markmullins5822
    @markmullins58225 жыл бұрын

    What are your thoughts on The Late Kurt Cobain? And was Nirvana better than Guns? What is your thought on the reason why Kurt hated Axl so much? Was it because Kurt was a self hating white man who despised his skin color, sexual oriantation, and Gender?

  • @kristinkelley167

    @kristinkelley167

    5 жыл бұрын

    Kurt should have listened to Axl maybe poor kurt would still b alive

  • @rinakitty9283

    @rinakitty9283

    3 жыл бұрын

    This guy gets it

  • @Gigi1111Layna

    @Gigi1111Layna

    Жыл бұрын

    Kurt didn't hate Axl so much.. it was Courtney pushing b.s. to the media and Kurt backed her bc she was his wife. Apples and oranges..can't compare them. Kurt was a truly sweet guy and happy af. Courtney instigated every possible problem and drama and had leaked lies to her sources that she had on redial. All guys get played by bitches at some point. Like Axl did by Stephanie and Kurt did by Courtney. Kurt and Courtney got together on the weekend of Sept 06. They were expecting by end of October, Nevermind released in October/November and they married in December. She played him...and the "madea" went with all her lies. Then all the drama with the baby and Vanity Fair. Messed with Kurt something chronic. All his problems stemmed from Courtney. Leave Kurt out of a G 'n' R debate. Totally different. And both brilliant.

  • @Gigi1111Layna

    @Gigi1111Layna

    Жыл бұрын

    @@rinakitty9283 Gets what!? You don't have a clue!!

  • @uverpro3598
    @uverpro35983 жыл бұрын

    Of course she gets a smack on the wrist. Attractive, wealthy white woman.

  • @robinbeerman4726
    @robinbeerman47268 ай бұрын

    Slash is useless.

  • @cheriruefer5870
    @cheriruefer58704 жыл бұрын

    Who cares..

  • @carolinacrapisi9860
    @carolinacrapisi98603 ай бұрын

    Penso solo che axl era più legato al figlio di seymour che a lei, lei una donna venale e mediocre non era ne bella ne brava come modella la sua popolarità la deve al rapporto con axl, se non avesse avuto la storia con axl non l'avrebbe conosciuta nessuno

  • @simongunner5327
    @simongunner53275 жыл бұрын

    Whatever happened to Erin Everly?

  • @RockNRollTrueStories2

    @RockNRollTrueStories2

    5 жыл бұрын

    youtube search that and you'll find my other video

  • @chattingesque372

    @chattingesque372

    4 жыл бұрын

    She's one of those sweet types, not like this Jezebel

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