Gun Gripes Episode 17: AK47 VS AR-15 Part 2
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This time we head out to the field and shoot a little. The results might surprise you.
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"AR is a prom queen and AK is a biker bitch" -Barry
@seannikki2397
7 жыл бұрын
I lean more towards the AK for many reasons, but because Barry prefers, them I like them even more now.
@1DaRavishing
7 жыл бұрын
And just with that quote alone sold me on the AK #RIPBARRY
@zombiebros4530
7 жыл бұрын
What ever happend to Barry?
@guntimes9908
7 жыл бұрын
Greg Michel He passed away
@tauruspassmore5313
7 жыл бұрын
JAY WAYNE i like bikers .
When I served in the Finnish military we used a high-quality AK-variant called RK-95, and being a spotter in a sniper team I had mine fitted with an ACOG, and it was accurate enough to hit targets that were partly hidden behind trees etc. at ranges up to 450 meters, and anything closer than 300 was a sure hit. Also as reliability goes, my first service rifle during my 8-week basic training was an earlier model RK-62 manufactuerd in 1972, probably been fired thousands of times and bathed in swamps and marshes and dirt and snow dozens of times (I know I alone did it more than once a week), never jammed, no rust whatsoever and was still perfectly capable of hitting a 5cm-diameter bullseye from 150 meters using standard iron sights.
@Gieszkanne
9 жыл бұрын
The finish Nagants also known for a much better accuracy than the russians!
@axipixel5811
8 жыл бұрын
+Gieszkanne Really? Hm.
@thorman944
7 жыл бұрын
every cheapo AR manufacturer guarentees 1MOA these days that equates to 3cm at 150 meters. not the $2800 AR's, grab a delton, R-Guns, etc... cheapo AR and if it can't do under 4cm at 150M, return it under warranty.
@ChuckHydro
7 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see some of those "warranties" written guaranteeing 1 MOA accuracy so I can make my decision of which one I wish to buy.
@CTN-dj7fr
6 жыл бұрын
That's something you should be proud of, serving in the Finnish army.
Damn, seeing the air displacement and bullet drop on those shots was really cool.
@Art-lv2im
8 жыл бұрын
Yup
@England91
8 жыл бұрын
yer most vids you don't see anything unless they use tracers
Looks like the old vader helmet on spaceballs.
@edccuttingedge8732
7 жыл бұрын
IronMikeUSMC lol
@powder8836
7 жыл бұрын
Darth Helmet has come for us all
@100fredkrueger
7 жыл бұрын
The Modern Slinger get out of that pod you fat bearded b*tch.
@davidp4986
5 жыл бұрын
Lol
@hoppinggnomethe4154
Жыл бұрын
That's a combloc helmet for ya
6:30 Those vapor trails are badass!
@Yeoman7
6 жыл бұрын
Hans S. that's trace not vapour
@stobbyenduromx9692
4 жыл бұрын
Not vapour it's the shockwave from the bullet bending light as it travels through the air. Fighter jets create this same effect once they exceed mach 1.
The AK is what a war gun is suposed to be, the AR is what a urban tactical "swat" gun is suposed to be, where u go on a mission when its done u go back to the station and have it cleaned (light, compact, customizable, etc). The AK u can be lying in a ditch pretending to be dead for 3 days of rain / snow / mud and blood get up and start firing.
@tigereese1975
9 жыл бұрын
Well said
@bifurcat3dduplicatus96
5 жыл бұрын
David Kuykendall true, you have to have a quality AK
@erich.2550
5 жыл бұрын
BiFuRcAt3D DuPLiCaTuS Is the wasr a quality AK ?
@bifurcat3dduplicatus96
5 жыл бұрын
Eric H. By and large I’d say no. It’s hit and miss with wasrs. Some are ok rifles, but it’s always a gamble. You really have to judge them on an individual basis. Check the rivets, check the sight post, make sure the rifle is straight from the barrel to the end of the stock and you really have to monitor the deformation of the bolt and the head spacing on them. Yet, I’ve seen some good wasrs. My brother has an ok Wasr. If it was me though, I’d either get an Arsenal with the milled receiver or the vepr rifle.
@erich.2550
5 жыл бұрын
BiFuRcAt3D DuPLiCaTuS Ok, thanks. 👍
7:32 you can actually see the shockwave from the bullet bending/warping light as the bullet travels down range. Absolutely incredible thing you captured there.
RIP Barry, we miss you.
When quickly reloading an AK, I thought you reached under it not over it.
@tristanmyers897
6 жыл бұрын
Tate Cash there's several methods for reloading aks
@holyass242
6 жыл бұрын
its personal preference. i like under cause i rotate the rifle to make it easier for getting around the mag but some people like over. i like the galil style where the charging handle is more like an L and with that over is easier.
@danielaramburo7648
4 жыл бұрын
I reload mine by using my right hand to load new magazine, chamber it and then hand goes back to pistol grip. My left hand holds my rifle while I reload.
Happy New Year, Gun Gripes!!!
great video's, love the slow mo replays, great info and easy to follow, good stuff guys, thumbs up
AR is a sword, AK is a battle axe.
@majungasaurusaaaa
8 жыл бұрын
1337penguinman AK is more like a spear. Noob friendly, cheap and easy to mass but also deadly in pro hands.
@thorman944
7 жыл бұрын
very poor analogy. a spear is superior to a battle axe in trained hands. a villager will do better with the battle axe, a warrior will do better with the spear. a warrior will do better than a villager with either, but the maximum potential in the equation is the warrior with the spear. a bit less 'muzzle energy', but 2x the range when used for melee combat and the potential for ranged combat as well. an axe is a slashing weapon with at most a 5.5 foot arc (2 foot arm length +3.5 foot axe handle). a spear is a quarterstaff bludgeoning weapon with a maximum 9.5 foot arc if striking with the butt, a halbard (edge on a pole) slashing weapon with same 9.5 foot arc, a piercing weapon (if thrust) with same 9.5 foot range, AND a ranged weapon (if thrown) that is accurate to 75+ feet. untrained villiager = arm them with the axe. warrior = arm them with the spear. and please save the 'this is anachronistic and does not apply' comment... Went through Paris Island in the 90's and the spear (rifle with bayonette) was still taught. Thrusts, slashes, bludgeons, blocks... these maneuvers still taught in USMC boot
@MrIliveunderabridge
7 жыл бұрын
1337penguinman id say the AR is a lightsaber and the AK is a bowstaff is a better analogy.
@pro-self-offense3823
7 жыл бұрын
thorman944 I say the ak is a longbow and the ar is a crossbow,or a longbow=ak and a compound bow =ar15.
@ayzoid9980
6 жыл бұрын
Sword is better then an axe it's faster
"It's called a reverse Dillinger and it sounds kinda dirty"
Pure fun! Thanks for doing the video - these things are hard work to get right!
I love you guys! Excellent videos! You keep it fun. One last thing... Tomorrow is Veteran's day,and I would like to thank you for your service... THANK YOU!
The basic shortcoming of the AK safety is that you are familiar with American rifle handling rules. In the Russian military the second the rifle is unslung the safety is off.(None of this keep your weapon at ready with the safety on stuff.) It does not go back to safe until you are going to sling the rifle back over your shoulder. For some reason the Russians feel that the PERSON is the safety and relying on a mechanical device to protect your from yourself is flawed ideology..
@xDXPxJOEx456x1
10 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why everyone bitches about the safety on Russian guns. The first gun i have ever bought was a Mosin and i didn't think the safety was that big of a deal on it but everyone i met always complained about it.
@paulkisling6930
10 жыл бұрын
Its because they are applying American methods of thought to a Russian made weapon. As we are seeing in the Ukraine the Russian way is blunt force trauma(my personal favorite) not the US way of finessing and respecting their individuality until they are no longer of use then killing them. If you compare basic ideologies you see the parallel between their weapons as well.
@noahleonard1459
10 жыл бұрын
Paul Kisling I agree with those sentiments entirely. The Red Army will never die!
@thorman944
7 жыл бұрын
True, but one philosophy is more compatible with christian/civilized values than the other. Surgical precision (hitting the bad guy and saving the hostage) is the goal and is what makes the good guys good and the bad guys bad. Anyone can field a larger force with larger caliber weapons and dominate the field. Those of us that believe in the merits of civilized society understand the merits of superior firepower being achieved by more critical hits resulting from more well-aimed shots versus more rounds being expelled downrange by a larger force as being philosophically superior. I would rather be right and dead than wrong and 'the bad guy'. That doesn't make me bad or stupid, it makes me an American, a good guy, a warrior that understands the equation and uses superior training and conditioning to overcome the enemy, rather than ruthless use of force.
@prmachinegunner
7 жыл бұрын
thorman944 as an American infantryman that way of thinking is flawed. We fight to win in the infantry period. Yeah we don't wipe out villages, or carpet bomb but as far as firefights go we win and that's it. We bring forth all our firepower and kill the enemy. Just remember if you are in a fair fight your tactics suck.
Holy crap that was the slowest AR "speed" reload I think I've ever seen.
@JustAGuy85
7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, made me feel like they were trying to make the reload look slow so the AK's looked better.
Wonderful detail of info there gostino! Many thanks :)
Watching you shoot that AK... your triggering technique is an excellent example for people who are still learning. I'm impressed to actually see it in a video. Normally, one would expect to be shown proper triggering in person with an experienced gun shooter.
Great video boys, I shoot a Romanian AKM 47 with a no name 4x scope and I can hit using mil surp (yugo ammo) at 300yrds all day long. Good job you bearded wonders.
The thing that kinda bothers me is chad is a know to be a better marksman then erick all im saying is id feed more comfortable is the same person did the testing for both rifles
Great job and video quality, Thank you!
love the vapor trial good work guys
Any AK accuracy quickly goes to hell once the barrel heats up a little. From minute of man to minute of unpredictability after 5-10 shots. Not so with the AR, 2 MOA or less all day. Just my experience. YMMV. So if sustained fire and accuracy are important go with the AR, otherwise you'll have to wait until the barrel cools down on an AK to regain any sort of predictable accuracy.
@scottnoveske9689
10 жыл бұрын
Facts there not opinion Rubi and I agree with that statement. I would also like to say that I wouldn't discount a 5.56 round at 400 yards. Trust me you would have a really bad day with any center of mass shot from one
@mistaclclark
10 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree, my AK accuracy is fine throughout the day. AK 103 and 104's are way more accurate than there 20th century predecessors as well. Now I will admit after 300 yards it is useless(pre AK103 and so forth), but I got a M1A for over 300 yards. Never caught the AR/5.56 bug after fiver years of shooting rifles so far. But that is just me.
@tva8252
10 жыл бұрын
Have an ar wish I had an ak again. Ive seen custom built ak shoot just as well as ar. Only reason so many ak are so inaccurate is because its cheap chinese or russian builds. Have so much play in them. Its what make them so reliable though.
@Rubicon1776
10 жыл бұрын
The US military went from the M14 to the M16/M4 in the 60's and the Russian went from the AK-47 to the 74 in 74. Why did the worlds 2 largest superpowers abandon the 7.62x 51 and x39 for 5.56 and 5.45 calibers? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5.56%C3%9745mm_NATO Weight of 7.62x51 and relative inaccuracy of x39 and some weight issues. I personally can take advantage of all the 5.56 accuracy has to offer and can't take advantage of the reliability of the AK if I cant hit my target with one. A weak hit is always much better than a strong miss.
@Rubicon1776
10 жыл бұрын
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That guy sucked at mag changes for the AR
I appreciate your videos. I've learned a lot watching you guys. Thank you.
oh man those bullet effects through the air are coooool. awesome videos guys, keep up the great work.
is that an East German NVA helmet? Nice. I collect East German uniforms too!
@frankkoester847
9 жыл бұрын
Yes it is!! Btw it was already invented in WWII by 3rd Reich, but did not make it into production. Of course, with today's kevlar there are better helmets - but it is supposed to be on of the best STEEL helmets ever! Just checked - Daddy's helmet is still here ;)
@kgbill8761
9 жыл бұрын
East German NVA? as in the north vietmanese army? I believe it is a Russian WW2. and used by many com bloc countries after WW2
@frankkoester847
9 жыл бұрын
NVA = Nationale Volksarmee = national people's army
@kgbill8761
9 жыл бұрын
sweet, I learned something new
@vitalyalex9291
9 жыл бұрын
KGB Ill www.litmir.me/BookBinary/175056/1379070436/pic_2.jpg По ссылке - советская каска второй мировой, каска национальной народной армии ГДР и советская каска образца 68 года - разница очевидна даже страдающему серьёзными заболеваниями мозга. Ещё раз для сомневающихся www.chen-la.com/articles-vim/hitman/stahlhelm-m56/top.jpg
Those that don't like the AK 47 have never had an Arsenal. If you had an Arsenal and didn't like it your crazy. AK 47 wins hands down in my mind for a battle rifle. now if you are wanting surgical precision and accuracy AR 15.What people seem to forget though is that in a battle situation you would be aiming for center mass and an AK does that job just fine.
@glandhound
10 жыл бұрын
AK isn't a battle rifle.
@scottdavis9170
10 жыл бұрын
Pekka Rastas The AK 47 is the greatest battle rifle ever made. It can take any abuse you give it and fires every time. It is not a precision weapon, it was never meant to be. In a defense situation you want stopping power, reliability, and accuracy. The AK does great in all areas. Like I said before a center mass hit is all you need to incapacitate an individual, you don't need AR accuracy. BTW the AR 15 is a great rifle too! very accurate and a great caliber, they are a little bit more finicky though.
@glandhound
10 жыл бұрын
scott davis It's an assault rifle and meant for assault ranges not exceeding 300 meters, battle rifles are meant to perform beyond those ranges. FN FAL is a battle rifle and generally most are that use 7.62x51 NATO or maybe even the .308. For the most part I agree with what you are saying. I'm just a bit anal about proper definitions of things, I would also differentiate with AK-47 and AKM, but maybe that's just me.
@scottdavis9170
10 жыл бұрын
Pekka Rastas Very true a lot of what you said. Maybe I should have worded it close range assault / battle rifle LOL! The 308 ballistics are much better than the 762 x 39 round and they have better range and accuracy. Good point about the AK and the AKM there are slight differences.
@tristanmyers897
6 жыл бұрын
Pekka Rastas you're aware that the designation 7.62X51 is the metric measurement of .308 right?
I love just past the 7:00 mark when you can actually watch the bullets leaving their sonic trail heading down range - that's good camera work!
The vapor trails around 7 minutes are saweet! Cool stuff guys keep up the good work!
after 6:30 you can see the bullet trail
@DETRIVNI
10 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too super cool
The patriot in my loves the AR, but if I had to choose only 2 guns to last me a lifetime it would be a Glock 17/19 and an Ak47
@danielmarjanovic9957
7 жыл бұрын
yes!! have the g17 and ak47 lol. nothing else is needed haha
@kilday9013
7 жыл бұрын
TacticalEagle43 I have Glock 30 and Yugo npap. love them both. super reliable.
@jomama2078
6 жыл бұрын
+Sir Kilday I'm thinking about getting a yugo, where did you get yours?
@kilday9013
6 жыл бұрын
Jo Mama Atlanticfirearms.com
@gihrenzabi7271
6 жыл бұрын
Possibly a 5.56 AK with a mag well conversion so ammo and mags are always easy to find?
either way the man gets my respect (knows wayyyy more than I could ever know about guns)
Pretty cool that you can see the pressure wave from the bullets in the zoomed in shots!
I miss Barry
I have nothing but the highest respect for you guys. That being said, I respectfully disagree with a "basic shortcoming" being the safety lever on the AK...On the contrary. It was designed big to be able to find in a split second during combat scenarios. IMHO, the safety lever is golden on the AK if you have to find it fast.
@zachone172
7 жыл бұрын
I don't think anyone in a combat scenario would have the safety on in the first place
Nice work again, guys.
Hi my favorite dudes from the south! I wish you a merry world, Happy New Year and a whole lot of new episodes!
@rejmons1
9 жыл бұрын
Sorry Merry Christmas!
M855 BALL???? *EVIIIIL*!!!!!
Rip barry
great video i like that you can see the bullet vapor trail
Great review! Suggestion -- compare SKS & M1 now...
why not have AK 74 vs AR ...... this is more fair
@JC.Denton.
7 жыл бұрын
The comparison between an AR-15 and an AK-47 isn't really correct either. He should have taken an AK-74 since those two rifles were built around the same time, whereas the AK-47 was built 20 years earlier, at a time the US didn't have an assault rifle. A fair comparison would be the AK-47 and the AR-10, the predecessor of the AR-15 since the timeframe between those two rifles is the same as the AK-74 and AR-15.
@CrazyClawStudios
7 жыл бұрын
technically most aks we use are AKMs not 47s
An AK with anything other than wood furniture is just plain ugly.
@professorbland
7 жыл бұрын
check out the zhukov magpul furniture -- sexy as fuck
@ferntheyoutuber9960
7 жыл бұрын
professorbland Looks ok
@Tac2cool556
6 жыл бұрын
nifepartie thank you, everybody wants to turn their AK into ARs
@N1K5M1TH
6 жыл бұрын
Russian triangle folding stock, and shaky canned factory handguard on my SLR107FR. love it, and have other AK's with wood and love them too. LONG LIVE THE AK.
@foxtrotalpha8617
6 жыл бұрын
rifles are not eye candies they are meant to kill
Great video - thanks
I appreciate the long distance shooting. Decent accuracy coming from Hornady at that distance. You have sold me on picking some up. Thx for all the help.
IN A SHTF situation AR or AK? Hmmm.....I think I'll just grab my SCAR 17 and be over with it. Lighter than an AK, more reliable that both.
@andrewsanford1245
8 жыл бұрын
Really? I've heard of those stocks breaking in classes
@TurdFergusson318
8 жыл бұрын
+Andrew Sanford I've never heard much on that, but in any case the gun still fires without a stock.
@jdl6881
6 жыл бұрын
BobLeeSwagger318 cost too much for something that has to be upgraded anyway. Price isn't a issue to me but with the scar coming in at 3k I expect it to be ready to go. Not so much
@bifurcat3dduplicatus96
5 жыл бұрын
jdl 68 it is ready to go lol. Like any rifle, you put an optic on it and roll. The scar is an incredible rifle, even a stock one.
As soon as you have 2 shooters with their rifles, your data is flawed. Who is the better shot? What is the condition of the barrels, chambers, and crowns on the respective rifles? As a test, the only result is that y'all got to shoot some ammo. And wear a helmet.
@Dies1r4e
8 жыл бұрын
+TheGunrunn3r why it's a practical test not a scientific one. practically they are both around the same skill level, they are both using two decent examples of the rifle in typical condition, at average ranges around the same time. Scientific? hell no, however it shows on your average day with your average shooter both rifles will get the job done.
@TheGunrunn3r
8 жыл бұрын
+Dies1r4e I'd argue that it's not even a practical test. It's an excuse to give your wife for going to the range and hoping that she doesn't whip your ass. Thankfully, my wife only whips my ass when I go to the range without her.
@brucekendall9873
2 жыл бұрын
@@TheGunrunn3r I think anyone with a reasonable mind can take some great information out of this especially if you understand the variables. Just use some common sense. Absolutely great for iron sights and terrible weather, shows that it is capable of beating out an m4 or m16 any day depending.
beautiful. around @6:30 where you guys zoom in on the targets. you can see the air being displaces as the projectile travels down range.
Have you re-tested the AK with a different weight bullet other than the 123 grain bullets you tested? Your gun might like and group better with another bullet weight. We would be interested in seeing in a follow up. Thanks
Things to consider. The AK47 is a very good weapon. However, I'll take an AR15 any day and here's why. The weight of it. Trying carrying a firearm on a 20 mile road march with an AK47, the weapon and ammo is much heavier. The cost of ammo is much cheaper with an AR15. You can carry more ammo with an lighter weapon, you may carry 150 with an AK but with an AR15 you can carry 250. Weight is a huge factor! Imagine the soldiers going up and down hills in Afghanistan. The average distance for combat with a rifle is about 150 meters, a more powerful round that shoots further becomes a non issue. Are you going to be hitting moving targets from beyond 300 meters? If your a trained sniper yes but not your average soldier. People talk about the weakness of the 5.56 round but look up what it does to ballistic gel, people don't get hit by an 5.56 and think "oh that wasn't that bad." It tumbles after contact and does great internal damage. People talk about the AK being more durable if mud gets into it, I would agree with that. But my question is why the hell are you dragging your weapon through the mud anyway? Some may disagree with me on the last point. However, when you compare and contrast them I'll take the AR15, I can carry more ammo and I won't be as tired having lugged around a heavy firearm and ammo. Plus, I'm a damn good shot with it.
@majungasaurusaaaa
8 жыл бұрын
William xxx You are gonna drag your weapon through dirt, sand and mud if your crawling on your belly trying no to get hit.
@axipixel5811
8 жыл бұрын
+William xxx In a combat situation, especially an extended one, I would rather have a reliable-to-the-end rifle than one that is finicky in any way, all that dirt, sand, mud, all kinds of shit that can happen.
@Community-Action
8 жыл бұрын
To March 25 miles and have the gun jam will make for one long ass tactical retreat. AK-74 was the answer for longer range and lighter ammo with the AK reliability. If you can bench press your body weight then an AK-47 shouldn't be "heavy". I would hope most guys who think they will actually use their gun to fight will be in strong physical condition
@majungasaurusaaaa
8 жыл бұрын
skojo3e Have you looked at 3rd world conscripts? They're 120lbs soaking wet. Weight will remain an issue with weapons. The avg third world infantry conscript has neither physical strength nor marksmanship.
@Community-Action
8 жыл бұрын
+majungasaurusaaaa- that's funny because all of the third world countries rely on the AK-47 as their main weapon...
Thats not an AK47, it looks more like AK109 or smthn Also about Reloading and Accuracy and stuff, you are used mostly to stuff like HK416, M16, M4, AR15..... If you handle the AK to a russian veteran you'll see the truth about AKs
@wikieditspam
9 жыл бұрын
I think this is a comparison of typical AR-15 and "AK" style weapons owned by American civilians. I think that in general there are better configurations of the AR-15 in general than are available for the AK platform, and variants of the AK are just the best of a limited design, a limited design which was the best Kalishnikov could make in his political-economic environment. Vz58 is still a cooler gun.
@sam.energym
9 жыл бұрын
wikieditspam AK has alot of configurations, ALOT, you should just check it, people didn't get used to it because M4 and M16 publishers spread the M4 more than the AK publishers spread their weapons, thats all.
@wikieditspam
9 жыл бұрын
Samuel Grimm It has nothing to do with proliferation. I guarantee that AKs are far more prolific on a global scale, and are used by a greater variety of people than AR-15 style weapons. But I'd still say that I prefer the AR.
@sam.energym
9 жыл бұрын
wikieditspam What do you mean by Proliferation?
@wikieditspam
9 жыл бұрын
Samuel Grimm There are more AK variants in more countries in use than AR variants. It's an iconic weapon.
I noticed the vapor trails when viewing the gong shots, cool ;)
Barry always brings a smile to my face.
Why would you wear a helmet?
@akshooter762
7 жыл бұрын
why not?
The "average person can't hit at over 400 yards with iron sights"....tell that to a Marine on qualification day with an M16. I thought your video was pretty good until you made that comment. ;-) (retired USMC Gunny)
@JayWandersOut
10 жыл бұрын
Well, we aren't average people. I wonder if everybody knows that part of our rifle quals involve shooting a man size target from 500 meters from a prone position using iron sights.
@Mraccstudios
9 жыл бұрын
You're not an average person.
@Deerslayer2k9
9 жыл бұрын
I don't think you understood, he meant the average person who either seldom goes shooting or hasn't trained with a firearm. I would be bold enough to say as I have seen it , that I wouldn't let an average person shoot any of my firearms past 100 yards as it would be a waste of their learning time and if they really weren't getting it, even after correction dangerous. A gunny like yourself should understand at 400 yards a lot of guns have to be held with a holdover feet above the target and if a person is aiming point blank at the target they are going to keep mudding rounds until they find out how to compensate. A marine is past that "learning curve" within the first few range session and more trigger time = acquired knowledge/skill. Open sights at 400 yards for anyone who has even tried shooting at 200 yards knows that there is a lot to it so I would say their statement still holds true. Even at 200 yards with a good scope I can't seen someone who has only played video games or read online comments making a 2" group (or even a 1" group at 25-50yards) consistently without serious trigger time put in and knowledge of there equipment. People need to realize you aren't going to just go out, buy a gun with a scope and have the bullets touch downrange at any distance without some experience.
@tigereese1975
9 жыл бұрын
***** true
@GunnyJeffers
9 жыл бұрын
Very True, if properly trained.
Best video I've ever seen showing vapor trails.
DDR NVA helmet...Iraqivet you da real MVP.
I really hate red dot sight, iron sights do it for me
@ElCid452
9 жыл бұрын
Agreed, when your scope is damaged you use 'iron' or go home (and if it's combat you'll be going home in a box).
@felixx2381
9 жыл бұрын
ElCid452 if its broke you better run home..
@ElCid452
9 жыл бұрын
Felix el maziso I don't run.
@felixx2381
9 жыл бұрын
ElCid452 well then your going home in a box lol
@felixx2381
9 жыл бұрын
Tell me why today my AR piss me of trying to chang a spring can be complicated.i like my ak better right now.
Ak is better because it uses the 7.62x39 which is a much better round than the 5.56x45. In my opinion the 5.56 is to weak of a round.
@glenpope4955
8 жыл бұрын
Michael Odelldye would you want to get shot with it?
@michaelodelldye9799
8 жыл бұрын
Glen Pope No I wouldn't but I wouldn't want to be shot by a .22 either. The 5.56/.223 will kill somebody but the 7.62 will do it quicker.
@glenpope4955
8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Odelldye depends on the placement of the shot
@michaelodelldye9799
8 жыл бұрын
Shot placement is very important but in a combat situation shot placement may not be precise so thats why I prefer to go with the bigger round.
@glenpope4955
8 жыл бұрын
+Michael Odelldye yea but are you going to be in a combat zone?
Do u guys have old videos of berry that is not on youtube would love to see it
6:31 to 8:10 you can easily see the bullet path in the air; awesome! Possibly it having something to do with breaking the sound barrier but great video guys!
Semi auto guns in a civilian market comparo AK vs AR Reliability Tied Accuracy AR Capability AR Upgrade/Support AR Ammo performance/choice AR Modular capability/cal change etc AR Weight/ammo cache/Manageability AR I could go on and on and on. If you like the AK fine the FACTS are it is an inferior gun period opinions aside. Aside from the basic piston design it fails on all other accounts except firing shots into the air on a drunken 4th of july in the trailer park. Lets put this to rest, truth is truth and opinion is opinion. The AK has its place its just not next to an AR.
@dahurt2187
10 жыл бұрын
LOLOLOLOLOL RELIABILITY LIE!
@Smitty-hr2mg
10 жыл бұрын
lol, ar fanboy. clearly, you have never owned both an ak and ar. I have, and have qualified with an m-16 and m-4 in the AF, and as far as I'm concerned, the ak takes the cake in every way but long range accuracy. It is extremely reliable compared to the ar, easier to use, hits much harder, just as easy to mod. And as far as I'm concerned, I'd take an ak into battle any day over an AR. Especially my VEPR MD2.
@scottnoveske9689
10 жыл бұрын
dahurt2 back it up with facts son
@heisenberg3946
10 жыл бұрын
I'm ex army and I prefer the AK47. I actually won marksmanship contests with my poly tech underfolder against all ar15 rifles. Its not the weapon its the person behind the weapon that mostly counts.
@Smitty-hr2mg
10 жыл бұрын
oh, the ak has it's place allright. And it is certainly not next to the AR. It is far beyond it. There is a reason it is seen all over the world in the harshest environments. That is because it is up to the task. When the SHTF, I want my AK. And please, never compare a 50 grain projectile to the power of a 123 grain. Its just silly. And From my experience, having qualifyied with multiple AR's, It's reliability is shit. Unless it is new. Or in ideal conditions. And with my VEPR, I can get 1.in groups at 100 yards no problem.
It´s called having a sense of humor and being able to give people a good chuckle at your own expense. Something it would seem you was born without you poor thing.
that was dope seeing the bullet signature as it flew into the target lol, nice
Pretty cool at 6:30 !!! You can see the distorted waves move around the air!!
The echo when Eric first fires the AK is what dreams are made of! I want that sound coming out of my phone when I get texts!
The trigger reset on that AK sounds awesome. I love that it's so audible. Is it a good trigger or just sond awesome?
you guys got pretty good footage of vapor trails
Nice bid guys. Have you or are you going to do a segment on 7.62x39 (and other cal's) upper on an AR lower ?
hey man nice vid love your stuff...i was thinking why don't you get the ak selector plate with the extra lip lower down the plate?? and also can i just ask...whats with the random east German army helmet?? lol
Did you ever make a video on the accuracy of the 5.45 round?
Hey, good capture of the vapour-trail on the AK
that's really cool how you can see the ripples from the bullet travel around 6:35
the gong angle was awsome. the ak bullets in flight were really entertaining
i have a tapco trigger that came with my wasr-10 and it clicks like that. ive also noticed this with the arsenal aks to with the factory triggers
I've seen an AR before (or really any auto-loading gun and not many others) and before that close up shot with such an excellent camera I've never realised just how beautiful and finely crafted those things are, especially compared to the crude caveman engineering of the Mosin-Nagant that I have seen and handled with my own eyes.
what's up with the click just before fireing?.. is the delay from triggerpull to fire really that big?
The AK safety was specifically designed to have full auto in the middle of the selector, so that in stressful situations, people wouldn't push the safety all the way down to full auto and just spray and pray in the general direction of the target. This whole feature is an economy step to help soldiers regain composure before they waste their ammo. I think it is genius!
would yall recomend a century zatstava pap m70 to someone that is trying not to spend over 900. if not what would you recomend? and do you have either in stock i live near yalls jonesoboro store
Good video....thanks
Love the vapor trails
Just curious, how are you getting the bolt to lock rearward on the AK?
the place in the back ground is a great looking piece of land. your luck gentlemen. great video
Downside to a big optic setting above the dust cover on the ak is getting your hand to the charginf handle. Witg that setup i think you dfeintley can charge the gun faster reaching underneath. In most cases is mostly preference when its just a dust cover there.
That's cool, you can see the shockwave as the bullet arcs toward the target. I've never noticed that before with any rifle.
@johnrambo1352
10 жыл бұрын
it all depends on the camera settings and the light, time of day etc.
beautiful tools. nice shooting guys
Nice shooting range!!.
Good one.
I love watching that vapor trail!!
Nice video would like to see both rifles with a nice x4 scope groupings. Would be good as a follow up on this video. Both beautiful rifles.
how were you able to get the bolt to hold open on the AK?
I loved watching those AK rounds travel down range. If you look close from 6:30 to about 8:00 you can watch the turbulance as the round travels down range. EPIC
I think what people were talking about keyholing was the 5.45. I believe it had something to do with the barrels American manufacturers were using (922r compliance) and the twist rate the barrels used.
This might be a stupid question, but what is that click right before the AK fires?
are you going off of overall cartridge length or projectile diameter?
I agree, yall should do a video on 5.45x39 long range accuracy.
Hi - could you tell me where I can get a mag pouch like the ak47 on the video? also the name of it
which handguard is this on the AK? Love the sleek look