I solved my LP tuning problems by not being able to afford one

@alexmurphy5289

5 жыл бұрын

I know it's not comparable, but I'm getting an esp 1000 with an evertune bridge and passive Seymour Duncan pickups for $850. It won't sound like a Les, but it'll be more versatile and literally NEVER go out of tune for a third of the price.

@carloszamora3067

5 жыл бұрын

I am getting a Epiphone Les Paul Jr, & a Epiphone Les Paul Special GT(made in Indonesia). They hold tune better than the Gibson's with Gibson deluxe tuners.

@TurtleGamers1

5 жыл бұрын

@@alexmurphy5289 There are Gibson LPs for less than 2k bucks.

@StratMatt777

5 жыл бұрын

That's a real shame. Hopefully you will win the lottery so you can buy a severely overpriced 1950s technology prehistoric guitar with an uncontoured body that pokes you in the ribs and forearm. Everybody is doing it so it must be good!!! :P

@toddwilson9311

5 жыл бұрын

I would 100% get an LP studio over an esp... you’ll save $50 and have an American made Les Paul.....

That Gibson headstock angle is like a hockey stick.

@garnetbezanson1404

7 жыл бұрын

If you want a hockey stick guitar look at vintage kramers

@bryanjamesbecneliii3157

7 жыл бұрын

I have one of those. 😎

@SuperMikeFender

7 жыл бұрын

hockey stick headstock? See 12 string fender acoustics. That's literally what it's called

@gib412

6 жыл бұрын

Or vintage Hamers.

Headless guitars: No headstock problems.

@bolerdweller

4 жыл бұрын

But you need it there to keep you hand from flying off. Why do you think we helmets on out shlongs?

@bolerdweller

4 жыл бұрын

@@ericb.1384 hahaha if you're using your guitar to get laid, you're not getting laid😂

@ZaneDalton

3 жыл бұрын

formanbradley you don’t even get any head, either.

@Wargasm644

3 жыл бұрын

I thought Gibson was a headless guitar? 😂

@mneugent7658

3 жыл бұрын

And f'n uuuuuuugly

Nah, let's not evolve the Les Paul by solving real issues. Let's bankrupt the company by trying to turn it into an iPod.

@monkeymonkerson

5 жыл бұрын

LOL!

@blazerodriguez6250

4 жыл бұрын

I thought they had pitch to help tuning and intonation?

@pittbrat7963

4 жыл бұрын

Might be so but That's the theory! The reality is : lack of know how! Gibson (and maybe less Fender) simply can not make better quality instruments nowadays because they don't have the skilled people any more to do so. There are also fenders who have tuning issues btw, so neck angle is not that important...

@dougstewart3243

4 жыл бұрын

@@pittbrat7963 They push a high production and the workers are not as skilled as they used to be. i had worse problems with my fenders that were hard to resolve

@gnarthdarkanen7464

4 жыл бұрын

No need to turn it into one, I found one with some horrible water-damage into the wood under the paint and finish... SO after a careful strip-sanding, I added some wood-stabilizer, and inserted a power control and a socket for cell-phones or MP3 Players with a small "door" in the back... Now instead of tone, selector, or pot'... There's two "dummies" and a power switch. The pickups are "dead" replacements, so I could help out a buddy restoring a vintage LP from the 60's... And you can run an MP3 through the amp. The "strings" are painted on, since I won't be playing it anyway... AND the hardware is only for looks until someone needs or wants it more than I do... ...but at least it never has tuning issues! ;o)

My $200 telecaster stays in tune like a champ. I'd be so mad if I paid $3000 for a gibson and my $200 guitar stayed in tune better.

@lespaulguy1979

Жыл бұрын

Because Leo was smart enough to solve the design problem.

Never had tuning problems on my Gibsons. -Lube the nut with graphite -tune to pitch, bend strings, retune to pitch if needed. -play

@mojoredfoot

5 жыл бұрын

Same. I own 7 Gibsons and 0 issues with all of them.

@Sasageyo-oj5ph

5 жыл бұрын

I’ve never had issues with my LP coming out of tune, in fact, last night I played for like an hour and a half at a youth conference (which is fairly aggressive playing, as those who have been to a youth conference will know) and I was 100% in tune at the end

@anthonymccarthy4493

5 жыл бұрын

Ditto, also, wrapping around post definitely helps with stability.

@045spdgt

5 жыл бұрын

I had a 2010 50’s traditional and I couldn’t keep it in tune, sold it, turned around a few months later and bought another one and I’ve had zero issues.

@MPK-72

5 жыл бұрын

I have 2 studios,one 2012 and one 2014. Silverburst 2012,alpine white with maple neck 14. Haven't had an issue with either one.

Never had any problems with my LP studio. Had it for 11+ years and I've always loved how it stayed in tune compared to other people's instruments. Took me a while to even notice that this was a common problem.

@harryking8498

2 жыл бұрын

My LP Studio is the same way. However, my SG was HORRIBLE.

@corkystclair7475

2 жыл бұрын

My Gibson LP Special rarely goes out of tune. I generally replace my nuts with bone, as soon as I get a new guitar, but I can't bring myself to do it on this Special. I could only make the tuning stability worse, so it remains with the Corian (I believe) nut.

@bigbasil1908

Жыл бұрын

I recently got an epiphone les paul studio E1 and it has not gone out of tune yet

@thefloop2813

Жыл бұрын

You guys must not bend much or use heavy strings. Every gibson i've ever played has had D and G string issues to some extent, some more then others. Especially if they had heftier strings. It's quite literally the only thing thats kept me from making the purchase for a long time. I absolutely love their styling. (Although their apparently lacking quality control is what's scared me away in recent years, they used to be THE example of perfect QC, but now you just kinda gotta hope you get one of the good ones it seems)

@ltcuaa

Жыл бұрын

me too, i think it's a band wagon thing. my 2 lps are fine and i'm mr bendio all day long

I noticed when I dropped my LP and the headstock snapped off it got knocked out of tune pretty bad. Try to avoid this.

@sharkyz5962

3 жыл бұрын

Damn most of been so out of tune it like there just stings nothing else

@imannonymous7707

3 жыл бұрын

lol

@losFondos

3 жыл бұрын

Have you tried unplugging and plugging it back in?

@david_a_uno

3 жыл бұрын

lol!! Condolences

@J-Hell

3 жыл бұрын

@@losFondos Too funny. 😂

This guy is the most canadian canadian there is.

@That70sGuitarist

6 жыл бұрын

I've spent most of my life in Canada, and the only people I've ever heard say "aboot" for "about" were either from Newfoundland, or were Americans trying (unsuccessfully, of course) to "imitate Canadians." (In other words, "it ain't necessarily so.")

@BlaziNTrades

6 жыл бұрын

Lol you've clearly not spent much time in eastern Canada

@JoshPillault

6 жыл бұрын

JamesShore1990 Yeah I didn't know he was Canadian until he said ABOOT. Then I was immediately like ooooh no wonder he's so friendly.

@ravenjames3873

6 жыл бұрын

are you saying Americans aren't friendly, because im pretty friendly.

@grog5564

5 жыл бұрын

Not hardly. But I heard the word pronounced Aboot commonly in Calgary. The dead give a way is his shirt. The spelling of "Flavour" . That is English not American.

I solved the tuning issues with my Les Paul Classic. I took it to the guitar store near me and sold it. Problem solved.

@DarrellBraunGuitar

7 жыл бұрын

+Kevin Goodrich 😄

@kuchi214

6 жыл бұрын

Lol

@Broken_ASF

6 жыл бұрын

brian lucore well dude I think this is a false thing going around I have multiple epiphones and they suck I love my gibsons I have a studio and a anaconda and I don’t have any problems. So I would recommend you an older one if you’re looking for a studio

@rickallen6378

6 жыл бұрын

The guitar has led a great life since he split with this dude.

@LiberatedGalaxy

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think you ever owned ,,,or could afford any Gibson

Makes me glad I was only able to afford an Epiphone.

@nosbig11

4 жыл бұрын

one day you may get the real deal??

@shotboy200

4 жыл бұрын

@@nosbig11 why bother

@fredvanderlinden8908

4 жыл бұрын

I have two vintage epiphones and I love them. Both are 30 to 40 years old. Don't forget it's all in the fingers. I prefer a good musician on a 300$ Epiphone rather than a bad musician on a 3000$ Gibson.

@BaconatorJames

4 жыл бұрын

I like to buy American, Canadian or Japanese, mostly for resale value, but I got a 'cheap' Epiphone ES-339 for $600CDN delivered, loved it, decided to get the Gibson version, I actually prefer the Epi. The quality is obviously there in the Gibson, but it was more than 3 x the price of the Epi & I still prefer the cheap one. It just plays better.

@james6234

4 жыл бұрын

@@nosbig11 "Real deal" ;)

I blame the guitarists themselves with their obsession with tradition and "vintageness".

@MartiniPinball

4 жыл бұрын

Vitor Roma nothing wrong with that, when they invented the wheel didn’t need drastically alter it any more either.

@quantum_net219

3 жыл бұрын

@@MartiniPinball What works, works. But when you have something that clearly begs for improvement, it makes no sense to not want change it because traditional/vintage.

@KenTeel

3 жыл бұрын

Well said. If they spent more of their time practicing, and less time obsessing over "correct" design, they'd be much better players.

@CS_Mango

2 жыл бұрын

@@MartiniPinball in fact they did drastically change the wheel. Cars now don't have a solid wooden wheel, do they? Instead we have air filled rubber tires on either steel or magnesium aluminum alloy rims. It is like going from a gibson to a prs headstock. Both are a "wheel" but the two are drastically different from each other.

@benink5690

2 жыл бұрын

They should rid of their headstock design and have one that doesnt angle the strings

just play like lil wayne, you don't have to worry about this kind of stuff

@ravenjames3873

6 жыл бұрын

Lil Wayne sucks

@JohnWayne-86ed

5 жыл бұрын

Little Lame is more like it. I think I'll be changing my last name now!

@J_Trask

5 жыл бұрын

Not a fan of his, but he’s rich and you’re likely not lol

@joesycamore2899

5 жыл бұрын

I've just listened to a lil Wayne guitar solo. Brilliant. I think he actually managed to create new notes while hitting none of the existing ones

@Max-dr6rz

5 жыл бұрын

@@ravenjames3873 No he isn't. You must not know anything about guitar, you're really dumb. If you don't know anything about guitar, don't say anything! Lil Wayne is way better than everybody, he puts a lot of soul in his guitar playing. He's really good, way better than Eric Clapton, Jimi Hendrix or Stevie Ray Vaughan. All those guys suck.

Why did my eyes water when he said "binding in the nut"?

@mandolinic

7 жыл бұрын

excidedous Hey. I didn't come here to be insulted. I go to work for that.

@crobulari2328

7 жыл бұрын

There`s much binding in the marsh !!.

@Adipsia1

7 жыл бұрын

I've found that my nuts get too cold and moist when bound and left in marshy conditions.

@sciense3078

7 жыл бұрын

lol

@brain8484

7 жыл бұрын

Mandolinic i dont know , maybe you are an idiot

It's cool how calm you always are. When I saw "Rant" I was not expecting this calm, informed video. Lol

That's amazing! I personally own 2 PRS guitars, and never noticed the string angle! Makes sense!

1. Big Bends Nut sauce and/or TUSQ self-lubricating nut. Miraculous. 2. Don't use a ton of winds on non-locking tuners (takes forever for the strings to stretch) or try locking tuners. Several brands have vintage-looking locking tuners now. 3. Lock down the tailpiece and bridge with TonePros or similar units. It took me a couple of years to arrive at this :( Hopefully, this will shed some light and save others the headache.

@krang07

7 жыл бұрын

#2 exactly

@gregcoomer1775

7 жыл бұрын

No 2. For years I've been doing it wrong!! I always put a load on thinking the more wrap the more secure, I will try this out.

@Vee_Sheep

7 жыл бұрын

"Self-lubricating nut" ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) (What is wrong wih me...)

@intrsoul

7 жыл бұрын

Oh I posted a pic of the packaging to Facebook for a few laughs:)

@Adipsia1

7 жыл бұрын

Nut sauce... definitely.

As a owner of a PRS SE Santanta II, I feel a huge relief when you came to point with PRS designed.

Every Les Paul, SG, 335 and Explorer I've ever owned over the last 41 years has always stayed in tune. No nut sauce or graphite needed, i never used any of that stuff. Most of the time people bring the stop tailpiece too close to the body. When you have the tailpiece too low your strings will first hit the bridge then hit the bridge saddle. So your strings are getting hung up on the bridge it self. What works for me is raising the height of the stop tailpiece to just hit and come across the bridge saddle. Okay if your stop tail piece is to high up now lower the stop tail piece and do a wrap around with all six strings coming over the stop tailpiece. Then make the final adjustments to insure the string is coming over the bridge saddle without touching the bridge itself. And logically check to see if the strings are getting hung up in the nut. If they are run a piece of wet and dry sandpaper very carefully through the string slots to get rid of any problems. And change you're strings regularly. I am gigging fairly often, 3 to 5 times a week so what ever guitars I'm bring with me are at the most two gigs old then I change my strings. I can hear the difference and I dont like the sound or feel of strings that aren't new. Plus if you buy strings in bulk you can get them much cheaper. And you have to stretch the hell outta the strings several times for your guitar to stay in tune. I also found out the hard way that if you are using a Floyd Rose or any kinda floating bridge you should use the same strings made by the same manufacturer. I've always used Ernie Ball or D'addario strings. I had one of my old early 80's Jackson soloist set up with Ernie ball 9 to 42 set on the guitar. Then when i changed my strings and put on D'Addario 9 to 42. Turned out that the Floyd rose went from being level to being physically pulled forward outta level relatively to the Jackson's flat top. Which raised my action by a light eighth of an inch. Just enough to be unplayable. Stay well everyone and happy pickin' and grinnin'

@frankkolton1780

4 жыл бұрын

That's amazing, because in 50 something years I have never owned a guitar by any maker that has stayed in tune. Temp changes, humidity changes, string stretch, and micro dirt and skin collecting on the strings has affected tuning on my guitars. Improperly cut nuts are usually the reason most people bring in guitars to the shop for having tuning problems (easy to fix with a good file set), an angled headstock compounds the that problem.

@charlesrast4235

4 жыл бұрын

I know right? I guess some stay in tune some don't?

@mattnewell649

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah one thing I learned About the many many guitars I've played in the last 50 years a tuner should be kept very handy!

@itsfratalbert6645

4 жыл бұрын

Joe D Joe D nothing wrong with a top wrap my sg’s intonation is spot on with it but couldn’t hold anything before. Slinkier feel with the tone of 10s is amazing, hands down the best feeling guitar I own. And my back is grateful too. But the point is like others have said all guitars are different. My lp will stay in tune for weeks and she doesn’t even mind being tuned down to eb. Intonation stays nearly spot on. Until I bend the g that is.. which is why I solo at the end of songs with her or try to bend another string if I really have to. The way I see it is that’s the price to pay for a full resonating tone. Personally, I just prefer a bad girl that likes to party(sg) over the girl next door(lp)

@dougstewart3243

4 жыл бұрын

the lp's little sister loves to party lol

Stretch the strings properly and make sure the nut is cut properly and lubed up if necessary, I have no tuning issues with my Les Pauls.

@guitardudeproducts

4 жыл бұрын

Totally correct sir!

The most peaceful and calmest rant I have ever seen XD Good video though, I have an explorer limited edition Korina by Vintage and it does have tuning issues.. not a lot but sometimes on the high E

I have often wondered why Gibson doesn't use the flying vee headstock on more guitars? It has a much straighter string pull and is elegant and not too large!

@realtruenorth

2 жыл бұрын

Because it only looks good on that guitar, it would look ugly as sin on any other guitar.

@SuperBroncosguy

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@andyhayes7828

Жыл бұрын

The Flying V headstock looks good on the Billy Gibbons SG's imo 👍

Darrell (if I may address you by your first name), I just started watching your videos a week ago. I have now subscribed to your channel. I must say I am really impressed with your combination of "technical" information, complete with sound (pun intended) reasons why you like certain things about the guitars and what you don't like. And you sure can play! All in all a format I really like, personally. I do not play guitar myself but have gotten a bug to learn how about a month ago. I am, however, a long time musician as a drummer (since 1974). I am also a retired engineer and research scientist. Keep up the great work. Kind regards, Kevin.

@bobbyd4033

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Kevin I'm Bobby, sometimes you will come across a KZread video that will definitely try to make other guitar look bad just because that person is trying to promote a musical instrument such as this video, the only real way to find out the truth is that you might end up doing it yourself and I may be different from you but I'm the type of person who doesn't believe everything he hears, reads or sees, you can read my post on this topic, it's like I said I been playing so many types of guitars for over 35 years and I have had several that was total junk and some that plays like a dream, including, Jackson, Ibanez, fender, Paul Reed Smith, Gibson les Paul, epiphone, squire and ect....

@eduardopadilla201

4 жыл бұрын

Hi Kevin, I am a follower of Darrell, but in this case don't have any sense this comment. The shape of the Les Pauls are the most old spanish guitar design.... do you think that for centuries the guitar player... (not only rockers) had problems with this shape to keep the guitar in tune.... I don't think so... looks a problem of lack of knowledge

I think Brian Mays solution of rollers at the bridge and nut combined with a pointed headstock is the best solution I’ve seen. Strings go straight through, short distance pull. Looks ideal.

I think the headstock Brian May made for his Red Special is probably one of the best headstock designs in history, and way ahead of it's time, considering when he built that instrument. It's similar to the PRS in regards to tuner placement, but it's arrow-tip shaped, kinda like in a Flying V. He used a zero-fret, as well as a roller bridge, which further help with tuning stability. Keeping your strings free to roll over the nut and bridge is, in my mind, the best way to keep in tune.

@Generatingmoments

5 жыл бұрын

Flying V is the worst heardstock ever to me lol

@SuperZiggyCraft

5 жыл бұрын

Yep, the strings apparently have almost zero friction.

@deanp2012

4 жыл бұрын

@@fabiostamato2199 Where did you hear that? I've heard only really good things about his range, even if they're stupid expensive and a bit of a niche

Right On Dude, I am studying Lutherie and just finished my Art of Guitar Design course and this was exactly some of the material we covered. Now I love my Epiphone Les Paul, Hope to Someday afford a Gibson but you are right that 17 degree angle is the main component of their issues. I can do ten times the amount of string bends on my strat before I even consider checking the tuning, many times I sit down and first thing I always check is my tuning and I rarely make an adjustment on my Strat where as the LP seems to need a little adjustment each top. And PRS does do an excellent job of thinking their guitars through. Paul seems to be very aware of design aspects of his guitars from the interviews I have seen of him. Right On Man!! Good Show Ole Chap!!

@rodakaskas

5 жыл бұрын

Wow, where do you study?

@SoloDallasII

5 жыл бұрын

You should also know that increased string tension from the greater angle will increase sustain...

@walkerpendleton760

5 жыл бұрын

Just get a fender

@ferox965

10 ай бұрын

Never had a problem with my Les Pauls.

Very informative video, Darrell. Nice job! Thanks.

I worked as a roadie in the 70's and saw a few accidental headstock breaks, as far as I remember(it was the 70's,so.) they were largely Gibbos and Epis.We were terrible roadies,all unemployed muzos, so the band could get us to do the soundcheck for them. Love your vids bredrin'.Thank you.

@christopherpaccione6187

6 ай бұрын

Also because they are heavy

I've owned a half dozen Gibsons and a half dozen Epis and none of them had tuning issues. Lube the nut, stretch the strings and lube the saddles. If the nut pings get a tech to file it out. Also never broke a headstock.

@utooberblooper

7 жыл бұрын

popped a couple,only on gibsons though

@flurng

7 жыл бұрын

Well said! I've a few Gibsons, and ZERO tuning problems! As for breaking the headstock, I can tell you how that happens 100% of the time: some FOOL left their instrument in a stand, and it fell backward onto the floor. I'm sorry, but the "design flaw" here is not with the guitar but with those TREACHEROUS STANDS! That's why I will NEVER own one! There's only TWO places you'll find one of my guitars; in my hands, or IN IT'S CASE!

@Vivi2372

7 жыл бұрын

flurng, some extra caution may prevent a Gibson headstock breaking, but the design is incredibly flawed. A simple volute on the back would make the area behind the nut significantly stronger and not negatively impact playability at all. Some simple wood working knowledge goes a long way, but sometimes it feels like the guys at Gibson skipped school on the shop class days.

@flurng

7 жыл бұрын

Howdy Gang - just got a notification of a response to my post by a KZreadr called; Vivi2372For some reason, his response is not showing up when I search the comments, but in any case, Vivi2372 says; "Bolt on necks aren't design flaws if they're done right (which they probably aren't on every strat because hi there mass production). There should be zero difference in tuning stability with a set neck, and a well made bolt on will tend to actually have better sustain believe it or not. And it's less like saying "I left my toddler on the highway and it was hit by a car," and more like saying "my toddler was crawling on the floor, bumped their head on the coffee table and now their brains are everywhere..." First off, I must admit, you're correct that, PROVIDED your bolt-on neck gives the performance one would expect for your instrument (tuning stability, sustain), then it is no more a "design-flaw" than Gibson's headstock angle. I'm sure there are countless well-made instruments with bolt-on necks, which perform flawlessly - this has just not been my experience. And regarding my "toddler" analogy, admittedly, I exaggerated a bit to make a point, however, regardless whether your toddler is doing battle with automobiles or coffee tables, the point is; DON'T LET YOUR "TODDLER" BUMP IT'S HEAD! Assuming one takes proper care of their instruments, this should NEVER be a problem, as evidenced by the countless vintage Gibson instruments floating about with perfectly "healthy" headstocks. And certainly, there are as many, possibly MORE vintage instruments around with headstock damage, but I ask you; did these instruments spontaneously "decide" they were going to break, or were they mis-handled? I'll let you be the judge.

@Vivi2372

7 жыл бұрын

flurng The reason I went with my toddler analogy is because you can't keep a child from ever getting hurt no matter how careful you are. Maybe you get lucky and they, through some miracle, never bump their head. But most children will bump their head at some point. Just like most people will probably, at some point or another in their gigging lives, have their guitar suffer a similar bump. Either way, the result of a bump being a small ding or a scratch is expected. The headstock breaking off (ie: the toddlers head exploding) is not something anyone should have to expect or even tolerate. It's a design flaw. End of story. There is no sonic benefit to having a headstock that weak and no detriment to making it stronger in that area. I could accept a flaw like that if this were 1959 and electric guitars were still fairly new and they didn't have years of use and abuse put on them yet. But it's 2016 now. Gibson knows they're more fragile than any other headstock I've ever encountered and through a combination of them not caring that much and purists having their heads so far up their ass on the vintage stuff, they've never bothered to fix it.

buy the guitar not the brand - too much snobbery i prefer to play a guitar that works and plays

@guitarmemoir

6 жыл бұрын

Exactly. All brands have their gems and dogs.

@voitlung

6 жыл бұрын

Completely agree. Les Pauls are still around because they make people think they are a Rockstar form the late 60s and 70s. My first guitar was a Les Paul copy (felt and played like every authentic Les Paul l I ever held). I HATED that thing, bulky, uncomfortable,terrible heel design (ARIA pro PE series solved this), and of course the tuning issues. I ended up switching to an SG (which sounded the exact same as my old Les Paul Copy by the way, no stupid "Flame Maple Top Tonewood, and Warm Rich Mahogany mass to facilitate true Marshall/Les Paul tone) HAHA what a crock of shit..... The SG is better (IMO) but still not as ergonomic as say a super strat or some of the PRS guitars out there today. Gibson Les Paul is the Air Jordan of the guitar industry. Bring on the hate, you are only fooling yourself....

@bonnivilleblackcherry9745

6 жыл бұрын

Mike nelson im not sure what is so buly about a Les Paul. I have owned about 50 guitars over the yrs if not more and I find the LP very comfortable. Well unless you find it heavy as I have heard alot say but weight don't equal bulky. I find the body style a gem to play over my semi hollow or hollw bodies. Outside of the gibson Lp or epiphone versions the only guitar i found more comfortable was a cheap chinese highland dbl cut way electric or my solo thats strat style but very light basswood with a maple top veneer. Guess its all in our own preference and our strength on holding an extra lb.

@ravenjames3873

6 жыл бұрын

exactly

@Brick-bp5xo

6 жыл бұрын

Name brands hold value better if you need to sell

So happy I found your channel! Thank you Darrell

I like how you always have a smiling face and a kind voice

Amazing, Gibson have only had 65 years to get it right!

@hypersonicmonkeybrains3418

6 жыл бұрын

William Skinner precisely. and why should anyone pay extra for band-aid fixes, when they have had so long to evolve the design.

@RyanGamesYT

5 жыл бұрын

@@hypersonicmonkeybrains3418 The have no need to evolve the design.

@SoloDallasII

5 жыл бұрын

What he conveniently left out are the advantages to the Gibson design. There is nothing objectively "wrong" with the design, it just prioritizes different things. A greater angle on the headstock creates more pressure on the nut and therefore greater sustain. The tuners are not angled in because it looks idiotic. There is a reason most people prefer the Gibson headstock shape.

@harrygoldblattmd5796

5 жыл бұрын

@@SoloDallasII This is like saying: I want to lose weight so I will amputate my legs

@ernestochang1744

3 жыл бұрын

@@SoloDallasII there is absolutely nothing aboot that headstock angle that increases sustain tone or whatever magic mumbo jumbo you got going on, this is called brain washing. You been told over and over again so many times how changing 1 little thing on your guitar can improve sustain or tone, i say its time to stop believing in this bullsheet wake up and smell the coffee cuz this is a real problem

Never had a tuning issue with my 82 custom The way that some people wind strings is the main issue

@bigdaddycool4242

5 жыл бұрын

Wayne A And the way they tune. And stretch strings. And set up.

@jacksonpayne3477

4 жыл бұрын

Edward Van Buren exactly

@hectichive889

4 жыл бұрын

@THE ACOUSTIC CAGE Yeah, for real. These guys in here don't seem to want to accept it just has problems...

@MartiniPinball

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly, wind it over-and-under so its locked by it’s own force on the string, plus lube the nut whenever changing the string.

@acw2237

4 жыл бұрын

@@hectichive889 I had zero issues so why would I accept a lie?

Great vid. Precise with 0 filler. Thank you

Hi ! one way to reduce the problem is to wrap the D and G string up instead of down on the tuning machine. The angle of the string on the nut will decrease, and the tension too. Putting some lube on the nut helps too. Keep on and thanks a lot for your channel ! Greetings from France .

this is the calmest rant I've seen on youtube

Damn, Darrell. Could you please be more digressive like most humanoids? ...Just kidding. Always amazed how focused your videos are. I love that you waste zero time in your videos. Keep doing you!

I was at my wits end with a gorgeous 98’ Les Paul DC due to this issue, and stumbled upon this video yesterday. I went to work on it and I’m happy to report the issue has been resolved. I had even posted the guitar for sale and ended the listing following this fix. Thank you!

@JohannMynhardt

5 жыл бұрын

What did you do?

@BA-tl4ju

5 жыл бұрын

Johann Mynhardt I gave it a good set up, trimmed and lubricated the nut, and made sure to tighten the tuning pegs up a lot better

Once again Darrell,this is a lesson to remember.thankyou.i have to say that I am looking at my 79 Les Paul deluxe more closely ! Just hope that the volute remains useful.

"Only cowboys stay in tune anyway" -Jimi Hendrix

@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342

4 жыл бұрын

Didn't he also politely ask his audience to be patient while him and his band tuned up though? So... I think he was just being silly...

@rich1051414

4 жыл бұрын

@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 Only cowboys *stay* in tune. If he had to tune in the middle of a gig, he is failing to stay in tune :P Maybe I just interpreted him differently in the context that if you are doing a lot of bends, you are falling out of tune.

@GuitarosaurusRex

4 жыл бұрын

@@rich1051414, Jimi tuned in mid-song... yeah, he was that bad ass....

This is the best rant about Gibson I have seen. You earned a subscriber dude. Great videos and I love hownyou dont waste your time

@DarrellBraunGuitar

6 жыл бұрын

+P Jn Thanks man! Welcome to the channel ☺

@craigusselman546

6 жыл бұрын

this is not a rant just a nice explanation.

I just had never thought of that before. Way cool Darrell!!

Thanks for the video, it was shot clearly demonstrating what you were describing. Sound quality was great. Picture was great. Video was short and to the point. New subscriber here!

Good information on this issue, thanks.

I've never had a single problem with mine. It's perfect. 1969 Gold Top. One of the reasons Jimmy Page went to Les Pauls was for tuning stability live.

Well, I didn't change the headstock angle, but...I installed good locking tuners, a file narrowed bone nut, roller bridge with locking intonation, and a TP6 tailpiece with fine tuners. It stays in tone incredibly well, but it took some work to get it right.

I have a 1974 Gibson Gold Top Les Paul Deluxe which I upgraded to Grover Tuners. I've played professionally and taught for nearly 40 years. My Les Paul stays in tune consistently. I have found that most people don't put the strings on correctly. Pull the string completely through the gear hole. Give yourself a little slack. I grab it at the nut and pull it back 1 to 2 frets depending on the string. Then, bend the string in the direction away from gear knob around and under the string allowing the string to wrap the first wind on itself. The slack gives yourself enough winding around the post for downward pressure. Don't let the string overlap at the bottom. Stretch 'em out and play. This works for all my instruments and I have many.

The Ernie Ball Music Man headstock design it's simple amazing and holds the tuning like none of the guitars I've ever seen

This is one reason many of us changed to Teles, I did years ago back in the 90s. Not as fancy of a guitar, but as you say, function over flash. Plus you can repair or just try new pots and switches without removing strings. The pure simplicity of the Tele grows on you over time. I've put them in cases and left them alone for a year and come back and they are almost perfectly in tune. Go watch Keith Richards smack a guy on stage with his Tele, and then put it back on and it is still in tune. It is a big deal to lots of us.

@surpk1

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think he actually hit him with it, it looks like he swang at the guy who grabbed the guitar, the wrestled with it for a second and he kept running. If he actually made good contact there probably would have been tuning issues (at least). He bailed the guy out of jail that night and is still owed 200 bucks. I can only afford frankenstrats myself..

I've owned many LP's over the last 40 years. Never had a problem with tuning with any of them. In fact, I've never had a problem with tuning any guitar I've ever owned because I took the time to learn how to identify the issues that cause tuning problems and didn't buy a guitar that had any of them. I learned how to tie a luthier's knot. Very important. I always replaced factory tuners with a set of good, high quality tuners whenever necessary. I always replaced the nut if it wasn't bone. I always checked the neck for proper alignment and I always checked the intonation of the guitar myself to see if it can be properly intonated before I bought it. I practice good fretting technique, which is most definitely a perishable skill and I learned early on that changing string gauge and major changes in tuning require the guitar to be intonated once again. Follow these easy steps and you will have many long years of guitar playing bliss.

@ferox965

10 ай бұрын

Stop making sense. Cheers.

Love you, Darrell!

I don't have a Les Paul at the moment but I do have an SG and 335. When I bought the 335, I had a choice of two but when the guy opened the case to show me 'the other one' the headstock was hanging off - on a new guitar! The new acoustic that I just bought is a disgrace to Gibson, badly finished frets, sharp nut etc. I think that the point here is that Gibson will make cosmetic changes to their guitars, some quite terrible to my eye, but functional changes are a nono. If they were to actually 'improve' the Les Paul, and your points are very valid Darrell, people would turn around and say, wow, this is much better - why have you been selling us c**p for all these years. It is very difficult for a company to admit that they were wrong - especially when they can say that it is a very successful line.

@viccrosscountry5745

5 жыл бұрын

p1xelp Hence my H-D comment

firebirds are the best gibsons.... they do everything you just said

Excellent video, professor.

Very good video Darrell

Another option is to use tuning machines that have longer stems on the tuning knobs so that the headstock can retain the same shape but the shaft that holds the string works its way towards the center of the headstock.

@maxmustardman298

7 жыл бұрын

Yep, that would make sense. Much more sense than zero nuts and e tune machines. Maybe just removing the tuners isn't innovative enough for a company that regards itself innovative ;)

I wanted to buy one of these Gibson SG Standard '61 Maestro Vibrola in Vintage Cherry for a while. After watching your video on this guitar i was totally discouraged from making my purchase due to you not being able to keep it in tune. But I went down to my local Guitar center here in Las Vegas and they had one in stock. I held it, the neck is outstanding the fret work is wonderful, the wood grain and color were so beautiful. I tuned it up and played a few cords and check the tuning, for sure it was out of tune. I fooled around trying to keep it in tune for three hours and became totally discouraged because this guitar was beautiful. So I did the only reasonable thing, I said to the salesman I am going to flip this Guitar Center pick, "blank side it stays here written side I buy it". It landed on written side so home with me it went, and boy am I glad it did. The next day I set out to find out why it wouldn't stay in tune and I discovered why, (fixed it) and now it's hard to knock it out of tune. First the tuning keys were lose and the screws holding the tuners on were striped from the factory, so i fixed that. Second the angle on the Vibrola is wrong from the factory, you need to tweak the angle and shim the Vibrola slightly, the E-string should not be touching the trem bar while in the resting position. Now polish the frets and do a complete set up. This guitar now when using the Vibrola as intended will stay in tune wonderfully. This guitar is a great guitar and if you take the time and put in the work to set it up properly, YOU WILL LOVE THIS GUITAR! I think that from the factory they just assemble the parts and are done, not realizing or having the time that it needs to make this fine guitar function together as a whole instrument. Glad I took the time and made the purchase. Please let your viewers know this is an amazing Gibson Guitar after the corrections are made. I Have no connection with Gibson and I am not a professional Luthier, so if i can fix it this guitar is fixable. Thank you

@subeyguy66

2 жыл бұрын

They are beautiful guitars and I love to buy American when possible, but for the price they should be perfect out of the box. The things you fixed weren't design flaws as much as poor quality control. It sucks. I have a 95 standard and it plays great, but who knows what adjustments the previous owners did.

Great video!! I wasn’t aware of this but now I know.😊

Very useful. I'm considering a new guitar and very interested in PRS and Gibson guitars, so you're comparison was illuminating.

This guy's voice is so calming.

hey Darrell, would you check out a Heritage H150 version of the les paul, curious how it plays and if the headstock solves the tuning issues. Keep up the good work!

@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342

4 жыл бұрын

Got a cherry burst used h 150 on reverb for 1400 roughly. It's in banged up shape but you know what? Plays like a dream. Weighs about 9 pounds. Sounds great with those 57 humbucker seamours. And finally... You guessed it. It stays in tune. Sounds better than most gibson les pauls too. If you can get one for 1-2 grand I think it's worth it. And don't let brand recognition get in your way of purchase choice. So what if it doesn't say gibson on the headstock? Heritage is the real deal. Made by the same guys who put the les paul on the map back in the day in the first place. Heritage is just as good as a well made gibson les paul if not better and less over priced.

I just purchased my first LP. Brand new 2019 studio that's blacked out with a floyd rose bridge. Plays like a dream, but it did need a little bit of adjustment to lower the action when it arrived. Best guitar I have ever played.

i've been playing guitar for over 20 years and have never thought about these issues...informative video, thanks!. Just got a LP studio the other day, so not sure how well it will stay in tune, but now i'll be keeping a closer look. It certainly is the best guitar i've ever played, without a doubt. I never understood their hype until now.

I never have any trouble with my Les Paul Classic.

I do think the shape of their headstocks is pretty iconic, too much change and people will hate it.

@2216sammy

2 жыл бұрын

It's an amazing headstock no way should they mess with it .

Awesome info on guitars bro! Love your channel. It’s helped me with a lot with several topics. Had one idea for you in case you didn’t know about it? Had my Gibson Les Paul tailpiece raised up level to fretboard instead of the standard lower angle which decreased tension and improved tuning issues considerably. I still agree with you on the headstock issue. Would improve this classic axe so much! Take care and keep rocking!

I had evertunes installed in my custom and studio LPs , couldn’t be happier.

how is it i've been playing gibbys for 40 years and i've never had a problem with tuning???

I have to say that my Les Paul 1959 50th anniversary limited edition reissue has no tuning issues at all. It is the absolute best guitar Ive ever played with, on all aspects. It was worth the price so far, Ive had it for 6 years now. Before purchasing it, I tried dozens and dozens of other guitars in a specialized store in Ottawa, where they only sell top quality guitars. Not a single guitar came close to the one i purchased, I even had the chance to bring some at home to test them in my home studio, and they ALL got destroyed by the 59 reissue. I have had terrible problems with my friend's epiphone, no string bending allowed when playing (especially on the D and G), it will detune right away. I also have a Gibson Les Paul Menace, this one is indeed detuning, but not as much as the epiphone. I think it all comes down to when purchasing a guitar, you really have to try tons of them to find the right one, each one is different, no matter the maker of the price. I got lucky on this one for sure...

Love all of your videos,and this one is very thought provoking.I have the PRS se245 it's a poor man's answer to the Les Paul and I just love this guitar and the way it sounds.I was originally put off a little by the stop tail compensated bridge and the wide fat neck,but now that I'm used to it,I over everything about it.and I only paid $450 new!

Excellent explanation, thanks !

If the nut is cut right, there is no issue. I've owned several LPs and not had tuning issues with any of them.

@2216sammy

2 жыл бұрын

I never had a single issue with any Les Paul's either .

I've got a 335, a Howard Roberts Fusion, an SG classic and a LP goldtop. None of them have tuning problems of any kind. So long as you have properly cut nuts and some graphite in the slots... there aren't issues.

@mikeaddison-saipe5820

3 жыл бұрын

In the past I have had an SG, a LP and a 335. Took me a long time (slow learner lol) to figure out I was spending way too much money. The Les Paul had consistent tuning issues. The SG had cracking in the joints (no I'm not rough on my instruments) but the 335 was all good. I now play a Sterling Cutlass (awesome head stock!) , a MiM Tele and an Ibanez Gibson copy - Straight headstock. I replaced the nut. Never have tuning issues any more. Just play. Next step is to make my guitar sound like I've been playing for 50 years - yup. That's how long it's been.

@heftosprod

3 жыл бұрын

@@mikeaddison-saipe5820 Actually.. thats true. I forget I had a 70's L:P deluxe that was almost never in tune. I suspect it was the neck moving around in the joint.

Great video mate

I own two Epiphone Les Pauls, both made in China (Elite & Ultra II), and I've had no major tuning issues while playing whatsoever. The Elite (which I've had the longest, circa '06), came with Jinho tuners, while the Ultra has Grovers. I've even tried different string gauges on them over the years, having settled on Ernie Ball .10s for a few years now. I set up the guitars myself, so maybe that's made the difference. I've also had a few accidents myself like the one you mention in the video, but fortunately the headstocks are in one piece! I guess they're pretty solid or the universe has given me a few breaks. They may have a small ding here and there, but nothing that would make me shed a (few) tear(s). Love your channel, by the way!

Very nice video, thanks. The only Gibson I have is a 339. I've not had huge tuning issues with it but my son managed to knock it over and break the neck. Why don't they just put a volute in it? I have several acoustics with raked necks and a volute, which seem to withstand being knocked down much better.

@DarrellBraunGuitar

7 жыл бұрын

+Tom Vernon Oh man! That sucks 😨

When I bought my les Paul I was outraged by the crap tuning issues then I put graphite on the nut and lubricant on the bridge and it stays in tune as well as my tele. Traditional 2016 T for the record.

I just bought a 2019 60s standard. No tuning issues at all. If anything when u pick up the next day it’s a tad sharp but no g spring out of tune when playing and I can bend without tuning issues. Really impressed with the new Gibson’s so far. This was supposed to post to les Paul tuning issue video

I was never a Fender guy as a teenager, they were too country and I was too much of a metal head to want anything with single coils, but as an adult I increasingly admire how smart Leo was with everything. And I've gone from all pointy guitars and thinking the Tele looks pretty good sometimes to being a massive Tele shape fan. Still a rock and metal guy, but also discovered single coils sound huge and great downtuned, amazing for solos (Jimmy Page's Stairway to Heaven Tele tone is just beautiful), and I've got T shape guitars with humbuckers for maximum rock and metal rhythm sounds. Leo Fender, thank you.

I am always wondering, because o neuer had tuning Problems on my les Paul. It hold tune as fine as my ibanez

Good video, Darrell. I have a few Flying Vs, and the G/D strings fan out somewhat similarly to the LP. I would suggest you take a string tree and place it where the screw is at the top of the truss rod cover (the "bell" cover). Preferably a Graphtech string tree as opposed to a metal one. This way the G and D strings pass straight through the nut.

@DarrellBraunGuitar

7 жыл бұрын

+Mark "M.E." Edwards Good idea! I'll try it on one of my Epi LPs 👍

@MEFlyingV

7 жыл бұрын

Let me know how it works out. I actually have an odd setup that includes that string tree, which you might like to take a look at.

@DarrellBraunGuitar

7 жыл бұрын

+Mark "M.E." Edwards In going to try out a String Butler and see what's that's like :)

Great video thanks so much. I actually just had my Les Paul services and the nut replaced with a bone one and it is much much better. My Les Paul is actually an Orville buy Gibson made in Japan 89' and the nut was gripping badly ( banding ) particularly on the d and g strings. Your video has filled in a few gaps. Cheers

I have a 2005 studio. It's always in tune. I have zero problems out of the box. All of my Epiphones are the same.

@hegonefishing9122

3 жыл бұрын

I have a lefty studio as well, what are they on about...

I don't understand why most guitar makers don't use a zero fret to start with. I know that a lot of cheaper guitars have them, but that doesn't make them a bad idea. and, of course, don't make them out of soft metal. That way the only function the nut serves is to align the strings. I have had a couple of decent guitars that have zero frets and I can't think of a single bad thing about them. and you don't have to worry about your nut being filed correctly for your gauge of string or ever binding.

Never had any issues either on my les Paul or 339.

I have a LP Traditional Pro with locking tuners. I think it has a bone nut. I always lube the nut with chapstick when I change strings. Also, when tuning always starts flat, stretch the strings, then tune up to the note. This has solved most of my tuning problems on all of my guitars.

well said something should have been about this years ago i had les paul turn up in its case with a broken neck and it seem to be a very common problem with guitars thankyou for explaining the way you have have been following you a long time now enjoy your lesson as well cheers shane from OZ

Aldo Nova got it right with his Gibson Explorer head stock on his les paul

Widen the string slots a bit and lube with Carmex. It's stiffer that Vaseline and smells great. That's what Joe Perry's tech says anyway. So if it's good enough for Joe...

@eduardopadilla201

4 жыл бұрын

From the great Joe Walsh, I learnt this trick: -Lube the nut with graphite -tune to pitch, bend strings, retune to pitch if needed. -play And my guitar stay in tune always!!!!!! for weeks!!!!!

Gibson Les Paul headstock's angle creates that sound we call Les Paul. The way you keep a Gibson LP in tune is by tuning it from time to time

When stringing the guitar I pull through the opposite end of the bridge and wrap the strings over the stop tail piece to lesson the angle from the other end. I use .12-.56 strings in standard and I have had zero issues tunning stability. Changing string and properly stretching the strings helps. I do believe I go through strings much more on the gibson les paul.

Hmm I've never had and tuning issues with any of the Gibson Les Paul's I've owed and own .

My les pauls stay in tune. Whooda thunk it.

@DonkeyHot_

7 жыл бұрын

Do you play?

@purpledc1

7 жыл бұрын

Vadym Maievskyi every single day for 25 years and counting. IMHO as long as you are handy and know how to properly set up a guitar a les paul really should not give you much grief. The biggest mistake I see people making with an LP is they don't tune up to the note but rather will also tune down to the desired note. If there is any binding going on at the nut your LP will go out of tune the second you bend a string or hit a chord hard. I have had countless guitars and while I agree some designs are more prone to tuning issues than others and that there are ways to design a guitar to be relatively idiot proof I think if people educate themselves on proper set up an maintenance that it should not be an issue.

@johnmcvay4403

7 жыл бұрын

I have never had a problem

@purpledc1

7 жыл бұрын

John McVay Me either. But I would wager like me you take care of your instrument. I would wager many who have issues with their LP also have an inch of dust on it as well as strings from the day they bought it.

@JohnSmith-tb1jp

7 жыл бұрын

get wrecked

Never had a problem on my 1979 standard since replacing the kluson tuners in 1982.

Brilliant. Having modified my bullet strat bridge to float properly like a vega trem unit, I wanted to eliminate the last tuning weak point - the trees. So I have performed surgery on the heastock from a straight 6 to a 4/2 arrangement keeping the same tuners. Zero cost but great result. Would send pics if I knew how?

Ive never had a LP with tuning issues and i have 2.

I spent years playing Gibsons and struggling to get/stay in tune. After I switched to playing Telecasters and it all went away.

@pablorages1241

4 жыл бұрын

I have both ... and they are no different ... I think it's confirmation bias

@YesuAiNimen

4 жыл бұрын

@@pablorages1241 continuing to struggle with the Les Paul would have been constipation bias.

@littlefishbigmountain

4 жыл бұрын

pablo rages Or maybe each instrument is unique despite overall tendencies in designs. Maybe you just never noticed. Maybe it’s a million things. Your observation of them being the same is no more evidence than one person’s observation that they’re different. Are you sure it isn’t confirmation bias with you either? Seeking to confirm your belief that they are the same. Have you ever tested it scientifically? Besides, it’s not like they noticed the LP went out of tune more because of this video. Noticing something yourself when you have no predisposition to notice it is not confirmation bias; it’s an observation. Observations can be accurate or inaccurate. Neither of you have collected empirical data, so don’t act like your observation, or rather lack of one, is somehow superior for no logical reason.

I have five Gibson’s and they stay perfectly in tune? Even under old school par cans! The head stock is weak on all guitars. I’ve seen loads broken. All makes. Strings have a lot to do with it, and how they are fitted. Tuning machines damaged from guitars being knocked over. Maybe also the bridge getting lots of bangs in all directions when snatching them up between stands etc. I’m nearly 60 now and my Les Pauls were my least troublesome when touring. Open air when a slight breeze changes temperatures and affects the tunings, my Les Pauls were fine. Even with mad string bends. I could grab a new guitar between songs and play without checking. I’d click my tuner after to check it, but very rarely it would need a tweak! I’m tempted to blame the owners too, as well as cheap strings. Great video!

My 2009 Epiphone LP completely stock holds perfect tune. I check every time I pull it out. It stays in the case in the sleeper of a SEMI TRUCK that travels throughout different weather and altitudes. So yeah.