GTA IV - Censorship in Australia [Analysis] - Feat. SWEGTA
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We are gonna have a look at the unique cuts and changes, which Rockstar Games had to do to get MA15+ rating to sell Grand Theft Auto IV in Australia. They blamed an absence of 18+ rating and did the cuts. Now Australia has R18+ rating and the nightmare for gamers and developers is over.
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0:00 Introduction
0:20 Backstory
1:33 Censoring ladies of the night
3:31 Censoring blood effects
4:38 Censorship was a precausian
5:10 Why censorship was later removed
5:48 End screen
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*Just to note, Australia does have R18+ rating now. It was introduced in 2013.* The video talks about the situation, which had happened with GTA IV in 2008. Narrator basically re-reads those news from 2008. Maybe I should have avoided quotations to make less misunderstandings.🤔 Since R18+ rating didn't affect GTA IV at all, I decided that there is no point to talk about it in the video. I don't understand why people go nuts saying that there is 18+ rating now. 👀
@chdreturns
5 жыл бұрын
Vadim M Australia, and the US is a perfect example of what happens when you let old people govern countries. You get censorship or attempted censorship of things these old coots don't understand.
@Dezza2241
5 жыл бұрын
In the description you say 'the nightmare for gamers and developers is over.' but Cyberpunk 2077 has been censored in a similar way despite the 18+ rating
@robbie4339
5 жыл бұрын
R18+ has been since the 80's wdym lmao
@R3fug333
5 жыл бұрын
Because there is a fact wrong in your video and people want to correct it.
@VexinatorDesigns
5 жыл бұрын
@@robbie4339 That was historically only for movies, until 2012 / 2013 games that were considered equivalent to an R18+ movie were refused classification (making them unsellable in retail stores and thus essentially banned). I'm not exactly sure why this was, perhaps because games we're considered a kid's thing so the idea of an R18+ game was in-turn considered inappropriate / unnecessary or that a games were "worse" than movies due to the player interaction and direct choice in the displayed violent, criminal sexual, etc. actions
"No GTA has been censored since Vice City" Me, german: Still trying to shoot the head down in San Andreas.
@balltongue6069
4 жыл бұрын
Genau mein Gedanke xD Wie flashed ich war als ich erfahren ab das man in Vice City und 3 Passanten hat auf die man eintreten kann und die auch noch Geld droppen. Wir deutschen haben es nicht einfach bei spielen. Noch nie
@sebas-pi8sz
4 жыл бұрын
Ball Tongue what the hell
@robinpzabel
4 жыл бұрын
@@balltongue6069 Jaa. Ich war überrascht, dass bei GTA 5 die Folterszene in der deutschen Version drinne war.
@balltongue6069
4 жыл бұрын
@@robinpzabel ja heutzutage haben wir glück mit spielen. Mit blutigen Szenen kann man zwar rechnen aber zb in wolfenstein kannste jegliche Nazi Referenzen abschmieren. Dennoch verträglich da in keinster weise das gameplay beeinflusst wird
@robinpzabel
4 жыл бұрын
@@balltongue6069 Bei Wolfenstein kaufe ich auch eher die Uncut Version. Ist zwar auf Englisch, aber Englisch ist ja nicht unbedingt schwer.
Slight correction from an Australian: we do have an 18+ rating for games, R18+. It was introduced in 2012.
@Gamesta100
5 жыл бұрын
It seems longer than that lol Sucks that some games still get refused classification even with an R18+ rating.
@NationalPepper
5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, you are right. I decided not to include it in this video, because I thought that it isn't so relevant when talking about GTA IV. On the other hand, as I understood, the GTA IV was the case why +18 rating was introduced.
@ruslankirichenko8588
5 жыл бұрын
@@NationalPepper I was not born in Australia but i have lived here 24 years now and i think It's actually pretty relevant because the whole basis of this video is directly analyzing censorship in Australia and If you're talking about GTA IV while trying to state facts and providing information based on your research then stating that Australia does not currently have an R18 rating when it currently does. I would think that would be pretty relevant to providing an accurate correct analysis on censorship which is the whole point to this video. Also GTA IV was the not the reason for the implementation of R18 here it added fuel to the fire sure but so did plenty of other games not just GTA IV The fact that they submitted a censored version for the game only to then submit the uncut version later on and that passing the classification only goes to show the game was not all that shocking and Rockstars original censored first submission of the game was simply down to their ( Rockstars ) own concern that the game not be delayed in Australia for whatever reason. Officials were already lobbying for the introduction of the R18 years and years before GTA IV even existed. GTA IV just simply added fuel to the fire to update the previous outdated legislation ( which was from 1992 and 1995 ) but did not cause the direct change. As that only happened 4 years later. Meaning the calls for the review into the R18 legislation had been accumulating years before GTA IV and was still accumulating years after until finally reaching a point in June 2012 after dozens and dozens of others games and lobbying to open a review into the legislation of R18 for games. This finally was approved with the first R18 here being Ninja Gaiden 3: Razor’s Edge. The reason for the introduction of the R18 here in Australia was simply that they finally opened a review into the rating classification legislation with open public submissions which 98 per cent were in favor of the introduction of such a R18 category. Not GTA IV directly that was simply one of the many games that added fuel to the fire. If you have time check out this article here delimiter.com.au/2013/01/14/australia-has-its-first-r18-video-game/
@NationalPepper
5 жыл бұрын
@@ruslankirichenko8588 The main idea of this video was to show these changes in GTA IV and not to talk much about their backstory and overall situation in AU. The backstory was added just to point at R*'s stupid decision in the past. In other words, I am talking here about 2008-2009 or a one year period. 0:55 "An absence of 18+ rating", was said as it was written in "The Age", but without "by the way". 5:04 Was said in the past tense to point that it was the main reason why R* decided to make these cuts. You can see the same idea in the background. I usually leave some clues or sources in the background while narrator talks about something important. So yeah, since I talked about 1 year period, I decided not to talk about R+18 rating at all. Mainly, as I thought, it wasn't so relevant and it didn't affect GTA IV at all. I just didn't know how to link it with the video, so I didn't really investigate it. Maybe someone didn't get it or maybe I did it wrong..... maybe I should have avoided direct quotation from the source. Dunno.
@LockRainmaker
5 жыл бұрын
@@NationalPepper You did fine on the video, don't stress too much.
Lol my uncle sent me the game for my PS3 from Australia.
@miguelhuerta4126
4 жыл бұрын
F
@mahrufurrahman9759
4 жыл бұрын
R.I.P.
@doge5603
4 жыл бұрын
Feels bad
@kbwicklow
4 жыл бұрын
This is P they have updated it to be uncut so your fine man
@doge5603
4 жыл бұрын
@@roythecommenterandmemerepo6413 Those weird cut off's
Britain : " Let's put all prisoners on this island with crazy birds and jumping rats! " Australia : Excuse us, this video game is too brutal! "
imagine the government telling you what you can and cant see in a video game
@JordyValentine
4 жыл бұрын
You mean like most governments do with games, tv, movies etc? That rating system is much the same as the ones used for movie classification everywhere else
@SunkJakeIsland
4 жыл бұрын
A_Stranger2256 Yeah Stop Talking Like This It Is Painfully Terrible For Everybodies Eyes
@SunkJakeIsland
4 жыл бұрын
A_Stranger2256 Because Normal People Do Not Comment Like An 11 Year Old Who Just Found Out How To Use A Keyboard
@TedMan55
4 жыл бұрын
TacticalBBQSauce The US doesn’t
@bobmarley-ml7wn
3 жыл бұрын
@@TedMan55 San andreas hot coffee mod made the game banned in the US lmao what do you mean? tons of small shit like that happens all the time but developers just change the game to make it fit with the guidelines but games get censored by US instituions all the time. Also manhunt. Also school shooting games always get banned in America like that columbine game as well as active shooter.
I live in Australia and am proud and thankful to live in such a beautiful country but I hate the censorship of this country. Like GTA V being removed from Target because of some whinging losers. Sad.
@jokerfett5652
5 жыл бұрын
Shut up
@Rxmbler
5 жыл бұрын
When it comes to anything that has to do with illegal drugs, or any drugs for that matter. They will not have any of it.
@Mr4tomicPurple
5 жыл бұрын
@@Rxmbler The Target situation was due to the representation of females in the game I believe.
@aaronnull5930
5 жыл бұрын
🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 we better
@massid3774
5 жыл бұрын
IHaveNoIdeas not really
I hate censorship and I don't understand the reason you should remove not appropriate content in a product targered for adults.
@deeznutz32108
5 жыл бұрын
Same
@itsdapawa
5 жыл бұрын
Imagine being Asian
@impathfinder5076
5 жыл бұрын
its not censored for me i live in Australia
@edwilson397
5 жыл бұрын
At least Im not in Germany
@boxybox100
5 жыл бұрын
Im in australia its not censored.
i forgot that in gta 4 when the cops kill you they empty their weapons bullets into your dead body, i bet if they did that in gta v you would get thrown around because they never miss a shot
@Captainbro50
5 жыл бұрын
Elite GamingWolf you must be shit at dodging bullets in gta v cause those cops have shit aim too
@FreeAimDog
5 жыл бұрын
@@Captainbro50 people in the comments of my video disagree.
i bought my gta 4 copy in a pawn shop here in australia for $15 and the only thing that’s censored is the “lady’s of the night” camera angle but blood stained clothes and pools of blood after a headshot are still in the game itself
The nightmare for developers is far from over. There are still a whole bunch of things that can and will get your game totally banned in Australia even with the R18+ rating. Plus there are retailers who wont sell R18+ games and platforms (consoles and digital storefronts) that wont allow R18+ games on there.
Im Australian and never seen this, my game was uncut
@JordyValentine
4 жыл бұрын
Because it wasn't the release version
@dels1234
3 жыл бұрын
same ive had 2 copies over the years and both were uncut
@altimagedesign8323
3 жыл бұрын
Can confirm I’ve had and played uncut versions from Australian retail shelves. I’m confused as fuk
@The_Shipster
3 жыл бұрын
@@altimagedesign8323 A short time after release of the retail version, R* released a patch for both PS3 and X360 to basically "Uncut" the game again. As the game only needed to be cut initially to pass classification. The classification board in Australia doesn't count DLC or patches as content that needs to be rated so it slipped straight through and everyone connected to the net suddenly had the uncut version of the game.
@indeed8211
3 жыл бұрын
@@JordyValentine no this video is just lies
Why it's not upside down?
@rompevuevitos222
5 жыл бұрын
Because he edited it for us, such a good youtuber
@user-ez05ob0WqQ
5 жыл бұрын
not this again
@theslav-combineempire2997
5 жыл бұрын
@Похотливый лимончикNot very cheeki breeki of you
@Heath-vz7lc
5 жыл бұрын
tHiS iS a VeRy FuNnY JoKe
@ripem1417
5 жыл бұрын
Heath2000 tHiS iS a VeRy uNdeRuSeD mEmE
The fucked up thing is - even though we have an 18+ rating in Australia, games still get banned/refused for sale The whole reason Australian gamers fought for an 18+ was to avoid banned games, and we still got them Hotline Miami 2 was one that got banned which I was super keen for, but there have been several others since 2013 when the rating was introduced
GTA VC Mac Edition Video?
@NationalPepper
5 жыл бұрын
In the future.
Fans:Will it be not censored? Rockstar:Well yes but actually no but actually yes
👀Never thought I would see SWEGTA in this channel⁉️👍🏼
Uncensored version = Uncensored animes version Australia version = 4KIDS/Jack Thompson version
@derricklyu9624
4 жыл бұрын
@@A_Stranger2256 I think he meant the American lawyer --- Thompson --- that used to sue Rockstar for producing "over-violent" games
@derricklyu9624
4 жыл бұрын
A_Stranger2256 Ik, I totally understand you because I live in Australia as well. Just for some reasons other people think that we are still at the bottom of everything, they can’t say that just because of we have more types of wild lives
@SirDankleberry
3 жыл бұрын
Japanese San Andreas: Completely cucked version.
Bro I was not expecting my boy swegta, iv been a fan since I could remember
One thing I noticed on mine; the Ushanka Hat, I'm pretty sure it's called the Winter Hat in game that you can buy at the Russian shop, doesn't have the USSR pin on the front but everything else is the same as the American version.
GTA IV , and SWEGTA as a narator - can't be better.
SWEGTA & Vadim M Best Rockstar's games news!
I remember it was a big talking point here in Australia as to whether it was going to be censored or not, one of the bigger talking points was the fixed camera with prostitutes. But this was fixed in the PC version of the game which I believe was uncensored. I'm glad we now have a R18+ rating here in Australia now. Thanks for the video Vadim and as always brilliant narration Swegta. Edit: A bit off topic but if you want to know more about where censorship in Australia. Saints Row 4 was refused classification even after the R18+ rating was introduced for using an alien anal probe that was edited out of the Australian version. I hope this gives you some of an idea of how bad the ACB (Australian Classification Board) can be at times :)
@myfellowsonicfans7131
5 жыл бұрын
Call Me Kevin's Used Sock I’m going to take it you’ve not actually ever played a REAL Fallout game, just Bethesda’s crap, Chems and Stimpaks have always been a Fallout thing, the only change that happened was Med-X a new Bethesda created drug, originally being called Morphine, having its name changed to as I said, Med-X. Honestly not sure how someone could get that so wrong but uh, don’t give Bethesda credit where it’s not due, aka: never.
@RobBoss_
5 жыл бұрын
@@myfellowsonicfans7131 Apologies. I have edited that part out. Thanks for telling me, I was clearly mis informed and shouldn't have put it in without proper research.
@meiji9720
4 жыл бұрын
Rob Boss imagine just stop a game from coming in the country because of a fucking sexual toy. It just proves Australia don’t get much pussy.
Australia has an R18+ rating now thanks to the release of GTA V! It needed to comply with an R18+ rating to be sold in Australia, it was also temporarily banned from some stores, before being recensored and re released.
Best Gta KZreadr❤️
@thezone5158
5 жыл бұрын
What you had to do is follow the damn train , CJ
@marcoponticorvo639
5 жыл бұрын
busta carl
@nickabbott319
5 жыл бұрын
Carl Johnson nah it’s the gtaseries,they don’t clickbait and shit
@xse959
5 жыл бұрын
stop writing love comments and follow these trains, CJ!
This is a great video brother, you are one of the best R* youtubers in the whole community :)
My country considered BANING minecraft from all stores but never touched GTA series
Always a good day when vadim uploads
I must've been lucky enough to get an uncut version. Everything that was supposedly removed wasn't for me
@rds3593
2 жыл бұрын
glad for you
Australia does have an AO rating (R18+), however company’s try not too get this rating as it is not sold in most shops and requires the presentation of photo ID for purchase
Another golden video of yours!
I really enjoy those videos
"No GTA has been censored since Vice City" ...I guess the Japanese version of SA doesn't count? And also, Hot Coffee feature? lol
@TylerMarkRichardson
2 жыл бұрын
In Australia.
Wow I got the complete edition in Australia in 2010 and I didn’t even know it was still censored until now!
A good video with good information. I like it!
Very cool,txn for video
After checking some things out, so what happened was Australia received their own product code with PS3 (BLES-00258) which later got a patch for it and also the standard European game (BLES-00229) was released as well - if I got the end right. Do not have internet to patch BLES-00258, still receive censors - naturally - if that's the case kek. Would be nice if some specifics would be given out as "how to recognize", such as those product codes since Australians usually receive their own packaging with stuff like some regions in Europe do which do still have the same internal ID. This stuff would really help those who want to avoid these things by making it a bit easier.
Hey homie welcome back dawg it's been awhile homie
@TheJayson8899
5 жыл бұрын
MC Freezy jesus dude
I was born in Australia and I live in Australia, I’ve never noticed the censorship
@curiousmind_
Жыл бұрын
Because you were used to it (Lol jk)
Even with those "minor" changes im really glad ive only played the uncensored version.
I have Grand Theft Auto IV: The Complete Edition for my PS3 and i still play it.
I think in the episides of liberty city they uncensored the game pretty much. I remember following this stuff back in 2008-09
Yeah. Finally my favourite narrator Swegta.
There are tons of various GTA releases and re-releases. I need your help in dumping and ripping these various versions. 🙏 More info here: tinyurl.com/yazeqj7l
@squad-kl3ek
5 жыл бұрын
The Australian version reminds me of the Japanese version
@realmofgaming7923
5 жыл бұрын
Vadim M any way you could look into the removed basketball defense animations in gta san andreas
@odalvioperreira5990
5 жыл бұрын
100000mil👏👏👏👏👏👌😇🙆☺😍😎💖👈
@psychobeam99
5 жыл бұрын
I like it
@manchild8365
5 жыл бұрын
im pretty sure those blood pools were back in the episodes of liberty city in Aussie land
Yeahhhhhh new video from Vadim M
the Australian classification board (ACB) has become more benevolent in recent years, they implemented the R18+ rating for video games in 2013 and therefore subsequent R* releases such as GTA V were never censored for Australia (RDR2 only received an MA15+ for some reason, despite being way more gruesome than GTA V from what I've seen), and even unbanned Manhunt (though Manhunt 2 is still banned)
Hell yeah! An Australian based gta video narrated by SWEGTA!
Whaaaaaa? Never knew it was censored, I’m from straya. (Edit) The cuts not as bad as I thought, ok.
So this is why DarkViperAU doesn't speedrun GTA 4
I kind of thought the Australian PC version was uncensored. I remember all the blood effects and the hooker options. Glad to know it was left uncut.
Yooo!! My man! Long time no see
Damn, I never knew about this.
Great video
VadimM you uploaded after a very looong time
hahaha i bought a copy in 2008, had none of these issues, lost the copy and then bought another in 2013 and still had no issues. in between that i played on friends' copies and had no problems whatsoever. judging from other comments and experience over the years it seems this censorship is extremely rare or even non existent. it was an interesting video though so thanks for trying
@JamalTyronus
Жыл бұрын
it might've been a imported copy or maybe a global version
The ACB does include an R18+ rating now. It was introduced in 2013, GTA V received the rating.
they ruined a southpark game in australia to
@JordyValentine
4 жыл бұрын
Ruined? They only removed the anal probing sequence, so what does it say about you that the game was ruined without that feature?
thanks Smegma for narrating this video
In america they try not to get an Ao (adults only) rating meanwhile in Europe and any country with PEGI you can't buy it if you are under 18. And then Australia comes in without a 17+/18+ rating until 2012.
We do have an R18+ rating now & have had it for a while. But at the time of GTA IV's release we did not.
Not sure if it was different between consoles but my entire time playing GTA IV from 2008 - 2014 I had the pools of blood and the blood stains on characters and these were never patched out.
All my PC versions are the uncensored version thankfully going back all the way to the old London days
I had access to all the uncensored things you show here, and I don’t remember buying it online
Didn’t know Australia was so ‘reality phobic’
@Astro_80
4 жыл бұрын
We're not. Blame the OFLC.
No, they were commuting Hersey, which was pre marital hand holding
That dude was named Mick,this video was made by SWEGTA huh,coincidence ?
i love you plz more video we miss you!
Didn’t know SWEGTA would narrate. GTAVC OSX when?
I live in Australia and I don’t know if it’s just because I have the complete edition but none of these censors are in my game. I bought it from another Australian but no censored stuff mate. Maybe it only applies to the base game Edit: the video explains why this is
I must've had the uncut version? I live in Brisbane, Queensland, Australia.
nice,a vadim m video.Time well spent))
I didnt even get a notification tf?
Are you going to be posting more often?
Oddly enough i live in Australia and own the uncut version which was bought in my hometown and has none of the cuts mentioned in the video.
As an australian i can say that some of this is true the blood pool does in fact still exist in australia as well as the footprints and as for the camrea fixing behind the car to turn you away from the "action" well im not 100% about that because i havent done that yet
didn't even know it was censored here
Ayayayay, another one!
I don't understand at 4:16 Should be' blood pool on the Burnt body?
The Complete edition doesn’t seem to be 100% censored. The blood pools are still existent but the camera angle is behind the car.
Cool video from cool guy
I ordered gta iv yesterday for my 360 and i am in australia will i get the uncut version? The disc had xbox live written on the right corner with +15 rating Edit: ok the dlc will give me the original version nvm
Is the new complete version for gta 4 in Australia the edited version or the same as rest of the world?
when i first got this game in 2008 it was censored later in 2010 a patch with the complete dlc edition was included
The song at the start reminds me of... MRWHOSETHEBOSS GANG!!
I'm Australian and Mines EXACTLY THE SAME as the American version lol
Australian Netflix has so many removed scenes from movies...
Aw man whats you guys next video? This one was short
Ooo Swegta - I know him ;) Vadim - 👍
I had no idea that the Aussie version was altered originally
Hey Vadim, can you do bully steam VS retail version or PS2 VS Xbox360?
MA15+ games in Australia are R16 in NZ. Slight annoyance I discovered after moving between the countries at 15yrs.
I was pretty sure there was a caption saying something about "guns and anuses", but scrolled through the video and didn't find it.
When you said currently doesn't have an 18+ rating, did you mean in 2008 or now? Because now we have 18+ :)
Yeah nah my Aussie ps3 version definitely had the uncut stuff
we do have blood pools
i have the Australian gta iv and it has blood patches on clothes, the blood pool effect and you can rotate the camera around and see niko having ***
I just started up my 360 and chucked in GTA 4. None of these changes happen ? No updates.
I live in Australia and i can rotate the camera but when i let go of the stick it will reset the camera angle :/
Ayyeeee ma dawg swegeta
Am I the only one that had the uncut version in Australia? Idk why but I remember the bloodfoot steps so I reckon I had the uncut one