GT SPORT - Mercedes-Benz Sauber C9 REVIEW
Episode thirty five of "Spirit of Le Mans", the review series where I will be assessing the best and perhaps worst points for the Prototype racing cars that feature in the Gran Turismo franchise...
In this episode we take a look at the revised Mercedes Sauber C9 Group C car, a legend both in the real world and the gaming world...
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SPECS :
Price : 1,000,000.cr
Class : Group 1
Capacity : 5.0 litres
Power : 927 bhp
Torque : 752 lb/ft
Weight : 893 kgs
Power/weight ratio : 1,038 bhp/tonne
Good stuff : More raw and realistic to how a Group C car should feel against modern machines
Not so good : Lost a huge amount of its upper end speed thanks to limited power upgrading
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I'm a mega fan of the F1 team, so I'm extremely happy to see the C9 represented once again in a modern racing game.
@CarOfTheWeekNStuff
6 жыл бұрын
Well aware, just didn't expect it to continue let alone be upgraded compared to previous versions. I'm a self-admitted Gran Turismo addict and have been since the demo to the original GT on the PS One.
We just need the 787b, minolta, 962, 956,...
@BenKill
6 жыл бұрын
Is there even a game out there which has the 956? I've only seen the 962 so far.
@lukas6610
6 жыл бұрын
BenDaKill - yes i want the 956 and an old configuration for the nurburgring so i can try to beat bellof's record he was such a legandary driver sucks he died so early
@zak7576
6 жыл бұрын
The 787B is slow, it only won because it was reliable and everyone else broke down. Reliability isn't really a factor in GT, so it'd be useless. The 962 should be in though.
@IIIStageProductions
6 жыл бұрын
88cv bruh
@lukas6610
6 жыл бұрын
Zak757 i just want the 787b for the sound
I like the way it sounded in GT4 and PSP, using the Toyota GT-ONE's sound. I know it's not the real sound but b4 I heard the real sound, the GT-ONE's old engine sound fits it.
I tried the r92cp, loved the brutal acceleration and sound. Had to adjust the gearbox for top end speed on stock power.
I think if they're going to have a group c class, they should have a full grid of group c or classic prototypes from around the time of the 80s, the early 90s or maybe even the late 70s. Now I've done a lot of research over the last 12 or so, and found 16 cars including one group B car that matched the group c cars for pace back in the late 80s, that would look great in the game or indeed on Forza 7. The list includes 16 cars, some we already know and love, some that have been successful and others not so successful. I'm still working on it but this is how it looks thus far. #63 Suaber Mercedes C9 Race Car '89 #23 Nissan R91CP Race Car '91 #24 Nissan R90CK Race Car '90 #2 Jaguar XJR-9 Race Car '88 (Silk Cut) #60 Jaguar XJR-9 Race Car '88 (Castrol) #1 Porsche AG 962c Short Tail Race Car '87 #17 Porsche AG 962c Long Tail Race Car '87 #55 Mazda 787B Race Car '91 #3 Peugeot 905c Race Car '93 #36 Toyota TS010 Race Car '93 #99 Toyota Eagle MkIII GTP Race Car '92 #18 Aston Martin AMR1 Race Car '89 #4 Lancia LC2 Race Car '85 #12 Chevrolet Intrepid RM-1 Race Car '92 #44 Jaguar XJR-5 Race Car '83 #203 Porsche AG 961 Race Car '87
@fl2kac
6 жыл бұрын
HotRodRacer463 one can only dream eh? Hopefully we can at least get some from your list in future updates
@hertzwave8001
6 жыл бұрын
I think the AMR1 wasnt good enough in a straight, i do wish games like forza and GT could get the LC1/LC2
@HotRodRacer463
6 жыл бұрын
This is true. I know it wasn't necessary the fastest but I still think it deserves a chance. After all it's another manufacture which in my personal opinion would be good for the game. But yeah they should definitely have the Lancia LC2 in there. If not maybe in the next game or even Forza with a full grid of Group C cars.
I don't know why I bought 3 Sauber Mercedes C9 in Gran Turismo 5.
My favorite car of the game.... i ran this car so much on nurburgring ... had some fast lap with car...end up putting down 519.498
That dislike ;( sad
@HSGAutomotive
6 жыл бұрын
I don't care, lol. Dislikes do nothing, which means that dumbass gave me a free view and some watch time XD
@kanetidus
6 жыл бұрын
He must be a Forza fan
They should bring back the Goodwood festival of speed.
They need a sound update so it sounds more realistic, they don't do that V8 monster justice
I actually think the Gr.1 placement was a good idea. Makes the class more diverse
Actually with just a bit of TCS (like 1 or 2) they are very manageable cars to drive. I discovered these as well as the Circuit de la Sarthe yesterday and I absolutely love them. I love how they perform, how they sound and they are really fun to drive. They have a personnality which is awsome. And the track is just great.
@HSGAutomotive
6 жыл бұрын
Well yeah, of course they're easier with traction control. Any car is. They're also slower with it.
@Jean-Poule_II
6 жыл бұрын
::: HammerStudiosGaming ::: Indeed but some cars, for a beginner like me, even with 1 TCS can be harder to drive while these were actually ok. Also I just watched your video about the GT-R NISMO and was amused to see that it actually was the fastest car on the Gr. 1 race around Le Mans yesterday.
@HSGAutomotive
6 жыл бұрын
Cool, lol
Love the game play dude.
@HSGAutomotive
6 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud :)
Great points about the overall car physics. Way more realistic coefficient of drag on the car bodies, makes them have a closer to reality top speed. I just did my first 3 laps on LeMans in the GT40, (N300), I was starting to get the hang of it by lap 3, did a 4:11,(pretty sloppy).. lol.. by the way, I used your tune, with a little tweaking, top speed= 182 mph
@HSGAutomotive
6 жыл бұрын
Nice
you could go 400+ on gt5 for sure i did it in the cien racing redbulls on route x
WM P88 did 253 MPH in qualifying (and died because closed air ducts) the C9 did a close 248 MPH
Spot on👌 there were so many times i miscalculated my branking with this car
Did anyone besides me also realized that the front brake calipers on the C9 are positioned wrong? they should be like the ones on the rear wheels
Sucks I can't get that livery...only the silver one now
As for the group c cars having less downforce it really depends on the car as the Nissan P-35 made almost 11,000 pounds of downforce at 200 mph I am pretty sure no car has come even close and it wasn’t that high drag either
@HSGAutomotive
6 жыл бұрын
Cade McKee ...which isn’t in the game
XJR-9 2nd gear is pretty weird i could say.
i don't know why but i prefer the AEG livery than the famous ''silver arrow" one
The only thing I dislike about the Sauber is that it doesn't have the unique Nascar like sound that it has irl. Here it's just a generic V8 sound, but well you can't have everything
They should add the Aston Martin AMR1 in Gran Turismo Sport.
Group Cs are the muscle cars of prototypes.
Nice video. Just hoping to find some good liveries for it.
Lovin' the new cars, just wish they'd get up to about 255-260mph :(
@cad2023
6 жыл бұрын
ByteGuy Gaming they do just work on the gear box alil more you will get it
@HSGAutomotive
6 жыл бұрын
Yeah so far I've got the Sauber at 240, the XJR-9 at 250-ish and the R92CP at 255-ish
@ByteGuy
6 жыл бұрын
cad2023 and ::: HammerStudiosGaming ::: ah, why didn't I think of that, thanks I'll see if that works
@N1sm0NIC
6 жыл бұрын
Work on that and lower downforce, yeah it won't grip as much, but they don't really need all the downforce, well the 92CP at least
Its a great car really, I am getting all the Group C cars that come out, they usually are all fun and I think in the new update there is a hint of the next Nissan group C car that might come into the game. However, I hope the Aston AMR1, the Lamborghini QVX, and the Porsche 956 do come to the game. Porsche deserves to finally have a group C car in Gran Turismo, and the other Manufactures deserve a Gr.1
Probably a stupid question, but why is your Sauber black? how did you get it like that?
@HSGAutomotive
6 жыл бұрын
Guessing you're new to GT SPORT?
@waz_rooney1738
6 жыл бұрын
Pretty much, not new to the series, but got the game recently, and haven't read much or watched much about it.
@HSGAutomotive
6 жыл бұрын
There's a livery editor now, where we can paint the cars.
@waz_rooney1738
6 жыл бұрын
ok cheers, will check it out.
Witch of the three should I buy????
@HSGAutomotive
6 жыл бұрын
Simeon Zapryanov If you must have only one - the Nissan
I destroy everything in this car. When it’s set up right, it’s insane.
905 Peugeot in the game the sound of that
The people who disliked must have been like 🙃
So they are no good go to cars for GR1 races for beginners? I love how they look though.
@RoyRope
6 жыл бұрын
Playlister Livery Studio Oké have to get some credits first than I will buy the Jaguar. It looks awesome.
@Twoplustwoequalsfive221
6 жыл бұрын
I would actually recommend the Tomahawk Gr.1 , it has very good breaking and handling and it is also easy on the power.
Is it worth it?
@danirunivain3527
3 жыл бұрын
Yes I think got one though roulette and I can say it’s really fun especially in Nurburgring and spa
Can this keep up with all other cars in its class? (The whole gr.1 class)
@HSGAutomotive
4 жыл бұрын
The older ones, yes. It'll struggle against the latest hybrids and diesels if tuning is allowed. They have significant top speed advantages
I want Toyota 7 Race Car
Update for gt7? I’m sure it was better here on GT Sport. Disappointing.
You said the sauber Mercedes won in 1999 that's wrong it 1989
@HSGAutomotive
6 жыл бұрын
At what point in the video
So is it better than modern prototypes and vgts or not ?
@HSGAutomotive
6 жыл бұрын
Depends what its up against. That's not a level question.
@adrienmonti5597
6 жыл бұрын
::: HammerStudiosGaming ::: then what are the pros and cons of each type ? Why should pick a modern prototype or a group c instead ? 🙁
@HSGAutomotive
6 жыл бұрын
Modern if you just want to win. Group C if you want to win with some attitude.
@adrienmonti5597
6 жыл бұрын
X2011racer ok thanks for your answers ! I’ll take that in consideration next time I race in Gr.1 😉
@someoneprobably1016
3 жыл бұрын
Well with the AI and stock vs stock, the Group Cs (exept the Porsche) take the lead, followed by Gr.1 VGTs and followed at last by the LMPs
No the c9 has a really high top speed
@HSGAutomotive
6 жыл бұрын
If you consider around 240 'high' then sure
Mercedes 😉😉👍👍👍👍🧢🧢🧢
Already got this car in Forza
@donnadenton1443
6 жыл бұрын
Phantt0m No forza has the r91cp.
@donnadenton1443
6 жыл бұрын
My bad I was talking about the wrong car
@HSGAutomotive
6 жыл бұрын
...and Gran Turismo had it 5 years before Forza did - in GT4. Leave these pathetic pissing contests to the children.
@friedmurmur
6 жыл бұрын
::: HammerStudiosGaming ::: I'm just joking. I like the addition of these cars into the game but I also find it quite ridiculous that they couldn't be included at release.