Just watched for the 20th time while de-spoking a race lace hub out of a wheel and i finally realized I have all gen 2s. Quite a few pairs and I’m looking for more lol

Awesome bud,you did your homework! I CAN'T wait for part 2 for superlaces. Id love to see a video on the peregrine 48's as well which was suzue's and all its glory if possible.

I had the black GT high flange mohawks on my Robinson pro team with the super 7x rims 👊🏻⚡️🇺🇸 I kinda wish I had some OG hubs for my 93 Robinson Amtrac! Thanks for the info.

I didn't have a bike when I was growing up but I surely liked them. Now I have about 12 of them. Thanks for the Vid

@atrains

Жыл бұрын

MrLoco61 thanks for watching and commenting. 12 bikes is a decent collection. Hope they are all GT’s! Anyway check out my other videos when you have a chance. Lots of GT stuff.

It's interesting how the usage of threaded "jam nuts" were still used with precision bearings, when not needed. Modern hubs have an unthreadeded aluminum spacer touching the forks.

Great video. All I ever knew was "beehive".

@atrains

4 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Yes! A new chapter in the Atrains GT Encyclopedia, such quality content is really priceless! I wish you could shed some light on that “GT wing logo chainring guard” I posted in the Museum the other day…

@atrains

Жыл бұрын

Never seen that thing before!

@monkist

Жыл бұрын

@@atrains would be fun to ask Gary about it like the FS in the serials😉

I have a set of those hubs on my mosh. It’s still in my extra bedroom collecting dust

@atrains

2 ай бұрын

Well they are worth some cash if you sell them. Otherwise get riding on them. Thanks for watching and commenting.

I have an original set of race lace on araya rims still in the box.

@atrains

10 ай бұрын

@vincestyles1030 Nice! They will be worth a penny for sure.

Awesome video mate! I see you used a few pictures of mine that you probably picked up from bmxsociety (the blue gen 0 and a set of gen 2). Andy from BMX Museum sent me the link due to a comment I put in one of his listing. I’ll look you up in the museum later on and we can exchange. It’s awesome to meet somebody that shares your passion as to produce this type of material. Kudos!

@atrains

Жыл бұрын

Honestly I’m not sure where all of the photos came from. Some were Goo l e searches and some from my personal photos, others from the BMXMUSEUM. It was a great effort from a variety of sources. Input from C4 labs, discussions with Robinson owners, a few great members on the BMXMUSEUM as well. Thanks for watching and commenting. Check out my other videos when you get a chance.

@marioumpierrez

Жыл бұрын

@@atrains fantastic effort! Congratulations and thanks!

I have a pair of NOS Gen 3 Race Lace hubs in chrome that have hollow axles. Your vid mentioned they have solid axles only.

@atrains

8 ай бұрын

Grab-D-Mann apparently yes some came with hollow axles and some didn’t. Gen 3 was almost always solid axle though.

Great video brother well to be honest with you I've never owned a GT the only GT thing I own is a seat but being that learning about BMX is equivalent to about four PHDs I'd say it's great to hear about how the industry changed over the years and the little nuances in the generation so excellent video man my hat's off to you Well when I was 9 and a half my dad bought me a 1980 power light So I had the Suzuki hubs and all that good stuff on him but now I found out about the sealed cartridge sunshine herbs the old school ones and I love all that stuff so yeah BMX drove me back into debt two years ago here but it's worth every damn penny

Excellent as always man keep it up

Awesome informative vid! 👍🚴‍♀GT RULES!!

My Robinson pro team was from 97 98 and it had the sealed flip flop version with the blue seal on the bearings. I’m guessing they were gen 4. But I’m trying to remember from many years ago. They weren’t Mohawk but the last version of the gen 4s. They were a 32 hole i do remember that much.

@atrains

4 ай бұрын

That is very interesting, I have to admit I didn’t even consider Robinson bikes to be using GT low flange race hubs that deep into the 90’s. Nevermind 32 hole. I know that the Rebel used generic aluminum hubs mated to Weinmann hoops. The SST used Mohawk hubs. The Pro versions used Mohawk hubs as well. I think there was a model that used three spoke mags too. Anyway I don’t think stock production Robinson bikes used generation 4 GT low flange hubs but again I am no expert.

@mikedevlin_bmx2446

4 ай бұрын

@@atrains yea again I’m going off memory from almost 30 years ago. But they had the acorn style bolts too. I do remember the distinct blue seal on the bearings tho. The bike may have been earlier but it did have v brake mounts. The rims were the Weinman aluminum. I’ll see if I can dig up a picture and I’ll be sure to share it with you !! The frame was a 1 1/8 with brake mounts. I remember my dad taking me to get it in 97ish. Maybe 96. My parents got rid of it when they moved about 16 years ago. I wish they kept it !!!

1984 norco starfire mini, araya mini rims in red with matching high flange hubs. I believe they were either suzue or suntour

@atrains

Жыл бұрын

Nice. That was made by Tange in Japan. Bert Lewis was the founder of the company. I’m confused though what does that have to do with the GT race hubs?

@403patriot3

Жыл бұрын

@@atrains You asked what kind of Hubs we ran back in the day, Pertaining to low flange race hubs.

@atrains

Жыл бұрын

@@403patriot3 oh yes….silly me. Makes sense. Cool! Thanks for watching and commenting!

@403patriot3

Жыл бұрын

@@atrains If it counts for anything, I only ride GT now anyways. All my old bikes, all my newer bikes it’s all GT.

Great video, trying to figure out which hubs are on my bike I remember buying them in 1986 or 87 but not sure which ones they are they are high flange GT hubs but only one side is threaded for the freewheel.

@atrains

9 ай бұрын

FoxRob93 high flange GT hubs from 1987 would have most likely been Gen 1 Superlace (freestyle) hubs. Superlace were only threaded on one side of the rear hub. Hollow axles for Gen 1. Sealed ball bearings and locking collars. I’m planning on a follow up video for the Superlace hubs but I need to get my hands on the generations so I can do all the measurements. I have all three generations but they are mounted to bikes.

@FoxRob93

9 ай бұрын

@atrains I'm trying to find proper spokes length to order new spokes since mine are rusted from sitting in a friend's garage for 23 years.

@atrains

9 ай бұрын

@@FoxRob93 your best bet it to remove one spoke and measure it. I don’t lace wheels so I can’t help you there. Fun fact, I’ll restore a GT chain link by link but I won’t lace a GT wheel. Superlace is a bit of a rubix cube but once you get it it’s relatively easy.

@FoxRob93

9 ай бұрын

@@atrains I learned to lace wheels when I worked at a bike shop as a kid, they are a bit different with the staggered spokes and all spoke are inserted from behind the hub. I was planning on going to my LBS and ordering new ones. I found your video while trying to find the specs on the complete wheel which I did find.

Gen 3 not all solid axle. I have an original 92" Pro Elite on hollow axle.

@atrains

Жыл бұрын

You are correct. After I recorded the audio for the video I made some final adjustments and discovered that my notes pointed to as you stated. There were both solid and hollow axles on the Gen 3 hubs. The description area in the video shows it correctly. Thanks for commenting and watching.

How do you know if a hub was originally a flip-flop hub? I have gen 4 off a sonic that's laced like that but I am not the original owner so could they have been re-laced improperly?

@atrains

7 ай бұрын

@Adam Jellison All flip flop hubs have threads on both sides of the rear hub for the freewheel. There are several different types of flip flop hubs available for different applications. Their main purpose is to allow changing between two (and only two) different gear ratios on one rear wheel without the added complications of a multi-gear setup or derailing. It has nothing to do with how the spokes are laced.

looking for help guys, I have bought a 2007 GT Ruckus Dirt jumper (Green/Gold) with Alex rims and GT Cassette stye hub. It has a lot of play, and i cant get it apart. i am new to this and would really appreciate any hints.

@atrains

8 күн бұрын

Sorry I’m not much of a new school bike guy so I can’t help with your question. Try the BMXMUSEUM.com.

Do you have any GT gen 1 race lace hubs for sale? I have 1983 GT Geoff Scofield replica that his dad Gary Scofield GT team manager built for me

@atrains

5 ай бұрын

Justin Phillips Sorry I do not have any for sale. See the BMXMUSEUM or Evilbay

@justinphillips3316

5 ай бұрын

Ok thanks... it was worth a try. I screwed up and bought a pair of high flanged free style hubs not doing my research