Grumman F8F Bearcat Engine Start R2800
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F8F Bearcat Startup, Pratt & Whitney R2800 radial. Great backfire at 00.46, much better in person. I was a ways away, and zoomed in while shooting, didnt get the full backfire effect...
Taken at Historic Flight Center Paine Field, Everett Wa
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I was always told, "never stand in line with the prop"!
Mr. White Shirt knows...for certain...that Bearcat 4 blade props...never come off...
I always remember an unscheduled pre-event display by a lone Bearcat at Duxford. Seeing this massive engine with the merest scrap of fuselage and wing attached climbing effortlessly in to the sky and doing its thing was actually the highlight of the whole show. This must have been the ultimate piston fighter aircraft.
The P & W R2800 was the all-round best radial engine. Reliable and powerful. Was used in many military and airline aircraft before jets took over.
Nothing sounds better than a Grumman Cat. That Pratt and Whitney R2800 sounds awesome.
Doesn't MATTER how many times it's happened... it's the fact that the possibility of it happening is always there, and it's a SAFETY issue... period. You don't stand in line with the prop arc, anyone who knows anything about ground ops around recip aircraft KNOW that.
@toddgillotte4553
11 ай бұрын
What was that....guy has a ☠️ death wish..... Like the ladyOn the ground crew when she got sucked into jet engine
I'll say it again, that dude needs to get the hell out of the way of that prop line.
@jerrywatt6813
Жыл бұрын
Yep I thought this was going to be one of those accident videos ha ha !
@davidgold5961
Жыл бұрын
It’s OK, think of it as a form of natural selection.
I wouldn't stand in line with that spinning prop, that seems like a really bad idea.
@kellyreim6627
5 жыл бұрын
I bet it will only happen once.
@arqueromolamazo4145
5 жыл бұрын
You are right. In Line and near the propeller.
@g6rcteam81
4 жыл бұрын
I saw A blade come offan aerobatic plane once . wouldnt go stand by that beast.
@danzervos7606
4 жыл бұрын
Probably a good idea to avoid sitting inline with compressor and turbine blades when taking a commercial flight.
@12345fowler
3 жыл бұрын
Guy has no clue
This Video is for when muscle cars dont doit for you anymore.
I saw a comment once on a Corsair startup video. You don't start these engines, you just wake them up. Or words to that effect. How wonderfully true that is! And I was wondering about the gent standing in the prop arc, too. It would just take once to convince him.
As a former aircraft mechanic and weapons system specialist (USAF 1965-69) one of the first safety lessons we were taught regarding flightline safety and situational awareness was to never stand in the same plane as the rotating props. Rotational forces generated by radial recip aircraft engines are insane. When one of those props separates from the engine shaft, and they will, you don't want to be on the receiving end. If you are, they may never find all of your parts to put in your closed casket. The guy in the video looked pretty young and perhaps he didn't have a lot of flightline or flight deck experience. I'm guessing that many people who volunteer or work at air museums might not get a lot of safety training.
I saw one of these at an airshow do a low flyby , never heard it coming until it was above the runway. then it just climb back out of site into a cloud , it was an experience I will never forget
@JD-ir5fj
2 жыл бұрын
My neighbor thinks he's a tough shit pilot. I wish I could swoop down onto his property with that drop buggy.
Climb rate was 4700 FPM the concept was a result of experience of midway where fighters had very little time from when they spotted enemy aircraft to take off and climb to combat altitude.
This Pratt egine is a tempermental BEAST! LOVE the sounds they make!
I love the sound of those BA radials
Beautiful Bearcat.
The finest of the finest ingeneers made this engine in 8 month
The sound of freedom. Listen up everyone.
Ahhhhhhhhh my radial fix for the day. Pure music.
This plane is the girl of my dreams. Always had strong affection for her. Some day I'll have one for my very own. Go Bearcats!!
@maclennylucas2248
2 жыл бұрын
Did u ever see the tigercat?
It's always interesting how short that era of fighter was.
@MaxwellAerialPhotography
2 жыл бұрын
The Bearcat was shorter and smaller than normal. It was basically the result of two different lines of thinking on how to follow up the F6F Hellcat. One idea went, what if we made the Hellcat into a twin engine fighter? The other thought process went, what if we took the same monster engine from the Hellcat, and put into a much smaller airframe?
@HHIto
Жыл бұрын
Short in years, but not in battles, fights, biggest war in world hx!
woow that is some Brute of an engine love the sound it makes!!!
I have been fascinated with radicals since I saw my first cut-away one at aviation school
@SLJ2137694
4 жыл бұрын
Radicals?
@fishis14
2 жыл бұрын
@@SLJ2137694 obviously he means radials*..... idiot
Gawd, how I love those Grumman cats!
Love how it just smoothed into a angry purr
Damn fine looking plane
@dylanrothwell9338
9 жыл бұрын
Damn right
I wish they still made the Pratt & Whitney R2800's Double Wasp's, big powerful, reliable engines. F8F Bearcat, , F4U Corsairs, P-47 Thunderbolt's and others.
My all time favorite aircraft. Fast and strong.
@SupernalOne Stranger things have happened on startup, There could be damage to a blade that was missed on pre-flight, loose hardware on the feathering mechanism, dirt, bugs, paint, a bird can fly into the prop. Good idea to stay away from a prop.
I agree with Dan, never stand that close to a Prop, or turn your back to it, like he did.
I agree. Never stand inline with a spinning prop.
Sounds like a bear, a Bearcat! Great video, thanks for posting.
絞り込まれた機体からのジェット機のような起動。紛れもなくレシプロ機のmasterpiece.日本語だけどgoogleさんが翻訳してくれている
The Pratt & Whitney WASP R-2800 Won WWII!
That Double wasp can’t be beat
Sweet ride !
Growing up in Chesterfield , MO in the early 1970's we would watch an F8F take off and land at Arrowhead Airport. Anyone else remember that?
The Jelly Bean. Beautiful
Great video! So sad to see that HFF have sold off the Bearcat and the Tigercat. I hear something special is coming to take their place at the new location in Spokane. Can't wait to find out what it will be.
Suprised how small the aircraft is considering the powerplant size 'must have been a blast to fly !
would like to have had that sound in my muscle car back in the day... when cruising around the drive in.
If he had worked for SMB Stagelines in the 70's that backfire would have cost him 50 bucks.
Multiple eargasms...... ooooh a REAL engine.....
Yes, please!😀
I just read a crash history on Wikipedia about the Captain of a DC3 being killed when the engine threw a propellor blade that entered the cockpit and killed the pilot. Happened on an Embrier Banderante turbo prop too crashing the plane with everyone on board dying!
good video!
Yup, and there's been SEVERAL instances of the composite blades on ATR's and Brasilias coming apart in flight.
This guy must want death to happen, love the sound of that radial..
Just hearing that engine fire up and run tells you "Bearcat" was the perfect name for this plane. Ready to tear...
@leighallen9255
7 жыл бұрын
I was hooked on bear cats after seeing bob fornoff at a airshow in Miami never forget that sound or feeling of it working
@call_me_stan5887
2 жыл бұрын
You do realize it's the same thing as Binturong, right?
@paulvolio Props are mesmerizing thats for sure. I used to work the line and I made it a personal policy not to stand in line with the propellers, especially during winter or rain. Sure enough I might get hit with a piece of prop ice or debris like that.
Last thing the pilot said before gunning the throttle: "I've never even flown a kite before, LOL!"
Why is he standing in line with the prop? Flight Line Rule #1 never stand in line with a moving prop due to FOD. That guy is lucky it didnt kick up a rock, or something.
@tubedude54
8 жыл бұрын
+worlock1422 Was thinkin the same thing... but my concern was a total prop failure... he' be splattered all over!
@antoineroy5876
8 жыл бұрын
+tubedude54 its during at start up -_- the prop is having pratiquely no force to enconter he is not wide open thats idle...
@TestECull
8 жыл бұрын
+Antoine Roy You'd be surprised how much torque is going into that prop when the engine kicks to life.
@antoineroy5876
8 жыл бұрын
yeah it got alot of torque but the prop is made for that so unless its not well instaled... it will almost feel nothing... some airplane crash on the ground and the props is still attached
@TestECull
8 жыл бұрын
Antoine Roy Or perhaps is just seventy years old and cracked in the hub somewhere. You're right, some planes do retain their prop when they crash, others lose theirs on a simple rough landing.
Come to think of it I can also remember a Ryan PT-22 that lost part of a prop blade in flight. The pilot dead-sticked the plane into a field and everything was ok. But consider the smart guy standing in line with the prop-arc. He probably wont get hurt, but why take the chance when moving fwd or aft 2ft would eliminate any chance ?
magic idle
He's the crew chief, its his job to be that close so he can spot any flames, oil leaks or other engine malfunctions
Yes, it's his job, BUT there's safer places to stand and see just as much, especially around the Bearcat.
WW2 fighter planes always started right up!
Funny you said that because I was thinking the same thing.
They use that are 28 engine and a lot of cool planes
Excellent shot. Like me .
How many volts was that plane? And it just have had some big batteries and amps to handle that pre oil start and what not?
nice vid.
I love the Wampus Cat
Lots of people don't understand a thing about radials... that is evident by some of the stupid comments I've read on different KZread posts in the past. I've been around them for years. You take care of them, they'll take care of you. I've never had one put me in a field yet... can't say that about flat motors.
@b.atwater3904
5 жыл бұрын
Yep. We understand and take care of them Because they are different.
@kellyreim6627
5 жыл бұрын
Been flying cats since 74 never had one quit me yet.
@gregbuck701
5 жыл бұрын
Radials rock....they'll run without a jug even. Read accounts of navy flyers heading back to the boat with one shot off. Go USN!!
put put puuut put arrrrump ruummmp rummmp rump......Oh how i love the sound a radial hunt.!
Reno is at ground level, but WW2 fighters like the Bearcat were designed to fly their fastest at about 30,000 feet, for dogfighting and to escort bombers. So what top speed would Rare Bear be able to reach at 30,000 feet, a/ if no adjustments were made to its current engine and b/ if it were adjusted to give its best at 30,000 feet?
Dead idle, and listen to that race horse gallop - turn me LOOSE !!
That wasn't a backfire, that was an afterfire. Huge difference.
P51, FW 190, F8F .....did anything else compare??
@brettt777 it def would out fly the p-51 just as the xiv spitfire would have done the same, just remember the bearcat was developed right at the end of piston engine aircraft development and the mustang was in the middle. i always wondered what the performance of the mustang would have been if it had a RR griffon engine installed.
Absolutly
the ol Wampas Cat!
It happens dude. And it doesn't have to be a whole blade. A loose nut, bolt, or even a cotter pin would be enough. I personally know of a Beechcraft Baron that shed a blade on takeoff, the blade penetrated the O2 bottle stored in the fwd. baggage pit. That exploded. Of course the plane crashed and the pilot and passenger died.
Think everyone's over reacting with the guy standing in line with the prop arc. He's well away from the prop. Like at the the wing tip. Don't forget, if flying in a twin turbo prop commuter aircraft, one sits right beside that big fan for hours on end. No need to worry about a blade coming off.
yes, I agree, but there`s another reason. Have you ever seen wrenched Propeller parts flying away? These parts are like bullets and that is the reason staying far away from a rotating prop. Regards Andre
Where is your fire extinguisher Mr... even the navy had one posted at startup....
One 2,100 hp. Pratt & Whitney R-2800-34W
Wampas Cat!
Why did it start then stop?
Nowadays or back then? Because nowadays we're sticking our heads in jet intakes. Back then we would sit in front of their blades, not in line with them...
What a beautiful aircraft and great sound. If only these would have been produced a few years earlier... They say it would give a P-51 a run and maybe outfly it below 10K. P-51D is still my favorite but this is a very close second.
I think the guy standing in line with the prop knows what he’s doing. Checking something.....don’t know what though.
Stand in-line with the prop disk during startup... Okay... 🤤
Siempre me ha extrañado lo mucho que le cuesta arrancar a estos motores, es algo habitual, les, cuesta muchisimo.
@RustyShackleford382
2 жыл бұрын
Torque
Sounds like the intro to Hot For Teacher.
A shame it was a bit too late for the war. It would have been a beast.
Only this is real music.................
Great video. Is that some noob painting the front of the plane with a laser of what??
wow
Haha yup. In soo many of these videos on here where there is a nice airplane starting up, there is always some idiot that decides he needs to get right up there in the prop. Shake my head every time!
I really had a hard time enjoying this video, nevermind that it was 13 yrs ago...that guy strolling around up front in line with that huge prop...nope, nope, nope!
...no kidding!
1:27 insect said, I was ready to fly and when you are ready.
It looks like the kind of plane that would have featured in a 1940s animated cartoon, almost comically short and stubby.
@XBoeingCapt: Perspective. He is more probably at the level of the wingtip. ;-)
Its Counter Part is A Grumman 1963 Split Window Corvette made by grumman
Look smart people compare Mr Kaki's shadow to the shadow of the wing tip. So yeah, from this angle it looks like he's in harms way when in fact he's pretty far from the prop. He's not going to end up like the big guy in Indiana Jones. Yeah standing in line with it like that might not be smart but I can't really think of what could happen as props don't fly apart all that often. We all know if anyone of us was given the chance to be that close to something that cool we'd be all over it.
Not to mention the cameraman.
Did anyone else see the tiny reflection dancing around on the aircraft?
@cabletie69
2 жыл бұрын
yes. laser rangefinder? for autofocus?
Because props ALWAYS toss blades at idle....