Both drummers are very good and have obviously have their chops, they both deserve respect.

Take-away: Metal drummers are not a big part of Gretsch's customer base.

@vjaceslavsjanens6966

4 жыл бұрын

Christopher this fact doesn’t say something good about “metal drummers” 🤔

@Christopher-md7tf

4 жыл бұрын

@@vjaceslavsjanens6966 Why? Because they tend not to play your favourite brand? ;)

@jadonchacon4914

4 жыл бұрын

DW and SJC are definitely the two most metal drummers go to from what I’ve seen

@sledgewolf339

4 жыл бұрын

Jadon Chacon tama and pearl and Yamaha mainly

@user-gu9rs5gi2l

4 жыл бұрын

Aaron Gillespie uses them quite often

Whenever things boil down to a contest you know this was not put together by musicians but by advertisers and market research people.

@scottdoyle9503

4 жыл бұрын

Oh yeah, this is in extra bad taste for Gretsch, definitely expect better. In a classic marketing goof too, they get the genres wrong - should be fusion vs hardcore.

@The_Kevinist

4 жыл бұрын

Scott Doyle This, the “metal” drummer made this video hard to watch

@timothylpappas

9 ай бұрын

Pretty sure they made it for fun. And it is fun

They said metal and this guy was playing a weird version of hearts all gone by blink 182

@sometimes3300

4 жыл бұрын

Manuel Alcaraz true HAHAHAHA

@essaym514

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly haha

@TheBillyEnz1

4 жыл бұрын

Manuel Alcaraz that’s what i was hearing I knew it was blink just didn’t know what song

@LouSassles

4 жыл бұрын

The dude looks like a great value version of TB

@michaeldevilliers4476

4 жыл бұрын

AHAHAHHAH thats fuckin accurate

Rock drummers make really easy rhythms look really difficult, and jazz drummers make really difficult rhythms look really easy.

@francescomartina856

5 жыл бұрын

I prefer a little bit metal... but this sentence.. it's true xD .. It's like Liszt(Metal side) vs Chopin(not really Jazz but still xD)

@TheLikeButtonLMAO

5 жыл бұрын

Danny Carey disagrees.

@kalveryigor1873

5 жыл бұрын

I played rock. And I so agree with u bro! This is true!

@khalifaljibrang6028

5 жыл бұрын

how bout Meshuggah - Bleed ? is that easy?

@kalveryigor1873

5 жыл бұрын

@@khalifaljibrang6028 Of course that isn't ROCK!

Jazz will never die!

@mirror1001

3 жыл бұрын

It’ll just take up this certain smell

“Metal” and “Gretsch” are 2 words that you usually don’t hear together

@derreckossas4951

4 жыл бұрын

Beartooth

@derreckossas4951

4 жыл бұрын

Underoath

@2triggered2comment55

4 жыл бұрын

Wow guys that sure is alot of solid examples

@aetsmbotas8820

4 жыл бұрын

Joshua Overton Gar From early Megadeth days used gretsch.

@omelette-licite

3 жыл бұрын

I know that Linkin Park is more like rock/metal, but Rob Bourdon uses a Gretsch kit

I grew up on metal, it got me into drumming. However, im going into Jazz as I enter my 30’s. It just lets me speak a different side to our language as drummers. And I really like the purity of the drum sound. The quality of sounds matter so much more because its not about energy. Each voice of the kit has can speak sentences in an arrangement, and it lets the drummers shine just as much as metal because in both genres they’re the driving force that can make or break a band.

Percussion is as much a visual art as it is an auditory one. Simply amazing both of you!

You just can't take someone seriously when they say they're "metal" and wear that hat.

@davidsheffied

3 жыл бұрын

He is French

@ddppbbqq

3 жыл бұрын

@eL nUb Precisely

@whitemelon0673

3 жыл бұрын

OMG

@whitemelon0673

3 жыл бұрын

OMG

@georgepetras1370

3 жыл бұрын

Dude. It doesnt matter what you wear. You dont have to wear black and red all day. The metal is on your soul. Look past the clothes

They are both beautiful types of music, and you cant compare them.

@casesoutherland4175

Жыл бұрын

All genres of music have great quality in their own way! Even though I'm a rock and classic/outlaw country fan, I really appreciate jazz and metal. The impacts they've had on the music world that we know today cannot possibly be fathomed!

@christopherprisco8690

9 ай бұрын

The best is when a good metal band has a jazz trainef drummer. Can't beat it.

1:43 territory by sepultura

@Haunyed

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I was about to comment on that. Brazilian grooves are one of the best!!

@eddieof_

3 жыл бұрын

this is the second time haha in the video 1 the "metal" drummer has played it too

@MakyM1973

3 жыл бұрын

@@Haunyed exactlyyy...i was like...waaaaait ...noo way :D

@seancpp

3 жыл бұрын

I thought it was Machtkampf by Arch Enemy

NOT QUITE MY TEMPO!

@brunofabris3144

9 жыл бұрын

Hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahaha damn bro hahahahaha

@nekocobain409

8 жыл бұрын

you just made all the best coment ever

@herbieunderwood2584

8 жыл бұрын

were u rushing or were u dragging

@youtubefan1313

7 жыл бұрын

Shafiq H. Jazz and bebop is harder

@faffledude

6 жыл бұрын

Thank fucking christ.

The level of misinterpretation is amazing in this video.

@troublemaker._

6 жыл бұрын

Shawn Fernandes true but I also it ain't that deep

@alessandroterrezza2245

6 жыл бұрын

Shawn Fernandes ahahahahah true

@rolandedrummer9723

4 жыл бұрын

True

@DG-sf9ei

3 жыл бұрын

In the grand scheme, it's on par. Why don't you post a solo vid then to correct any misinterpretations ?

@ShawnKenneth

3 жыл бұрын

@@DG-sf9ei I'm not a drummer, will not be able to do so. However, a lot of drummers and general proponents of either genre will gladly agree with the fact that these are infact very different from standard Jazz and Metal styles of drumming.

I enjoyed both players staying true to their gift. Thank you

there are metal heads who learn jazz so they can expand their knowledge and tools. this guy wasn't pure metal anyways. but... jazz ftw

@Vaylon.

3 жыл бұрын

Some insanely good metal drummers come from a jazz background, and it's a great combination.

@yunarukami14

2 жыл бұрын

@Mette B Shit take. Try again next time

@kiwiangeldust6912

2 жыл бұрын

@@yunarukami14 Not even close

you cant compare two genres that are equally as awesome.

I rofled every time the jazz player kicked in, he just dominated the metal guy. In my humble opinion of course

@prodrumm3r1

9 жыл бұрын

Because the metal guy isn't playing metal he's doing Travis barker

@IceTrey98c

8 жыл бұрын

+Ben Mitchell thank you

@menteur4444

8 жыл бұрын

+Extol Jesus Chris Turner woldd kickass!!

@kultenhughes3585

6 жыл бұрын

Thete is a clear bias in this from the makers of the video

@faffledude

6 жыл бұрын

This "metal drummer" is just a punk drummer with a double pedal. Look up Luke Holland and watch his song "Hos Down" with Jason Richardson.

Oh you guys are incredible. Take a bow man! This video is goin in the save for later column

I see a lot of negative comments here . Call it want you want. Both these guys a bad ass. PERIOD

@bobbyarmenta6707

4 жыл бұрын

Word.

1:00 travis barker, heart all gone blink182

Amazing how the jazz drummer's single kick fluttering sounds almost as fast as the double kick!

Awesome, and really good quality recording

Tres bien! Love the double bass on the rocker and love the syncopation and triplets of the jazz drummer. Skill!

anyone else really like that jazz kick drum?

Metal: How hard and fast can I play Jazz: How much can I do with as little amount of drums possible

@isaacdissonance3967

6 жыл бұрын

Connor Pixley incredible taste man!!!!best drummer on the earth!!!!

@CMDRUMS76

6 жыл бұрын

WHOABUBBAvideos then why did the Jazz guy have more drums? This metal guy was just pounding the drums, but not all metal players, play that way...

@ingokolb6871

6 жыл бұрын

metaldrums neither

@none5020

6 жыл бұрын

Metal: Basically what you said + cool fills, stick tricks, typically uses match grip, and constant tempo or common/simple tempo changes Jazz: Weird and unnecessary left to right, up to down technique, doesn't matter if you dont like him but you must know who buddy Rich is, typically uses traditional grip (and will kill you if you use match grip) , and "how can I make the tempo as unfollowable as possible but still make it sound good to be music?" (I am biased towards jazz)

@cerberus3504

6 жыл бұрын

Hehe fast metal drummer ? watch that : kzread.info/dash/bejne/hGSrqq6wfdWYnJs.html

Both drummers are amazing!

Love the more complexity of the jazz and the force and power of the metal.. the genre's over lap alot, when ite good musicianship and skill

Hey, I think we all can agree about the fact that all real good drummers are impressive in different ways - no matter genre. It's just about taste.

The guy playing metal drums was playing a Blink 182 song called Hearts all gone and it's pop punk TF 1:00

@JoshLikeCrazy

7 жыл бұрын

punk and metal drumming are pretty similar

@WelcomeTheNight

7 жыл бұрын

Travis is actually a Jazz drummer.

@jasonfernandez7340

7 жыл бұрын

David Bean that's ok, he looks like travis barker lol

@wimsreppoc3134

6 жыл бұрын

lolz

@luregraff

6 жыл бұрын

i was about to call him out for the same thing lmao

Both fellows played beautifully - a good video.

Gar Samuelson of Megadeth is my favorite drummer, a traditional Jazz drummer playing Thrash Metal

Like: JAZZ Coment: METAL

Metal will never die

Both performed awesome

Love how the jazz drummer is so confident

What I find funny is that the origins of metal drumming are actually from jazz drummers themselves. Ian Paice from Deep Purple was a traditional jazz drummer and Fireball was arguably the first speed metal song (introducing the double bass). Bill Ward from one of metal's first band Black Sabbath was also a jazz drummer. Lastly, Sin after Sin and Stained Class from Judas Priest had jazz drummers who revolutionized the genre to greater heights by incorporating elements of progressive metal and the overall sound for what eventually be 80s metal

@Cyb3rSix

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, Jazz was the birth of these rudiments and fast pace. I don't think there's much of any bands from 1970-1990 that don't have drummers with a jazz background. I would like to see more metal drummers play a little more intricate than fast, and nothing drives me more insane than hearing double kick mask crap fills.

@johnludtke4416

4 жыл бұрын

That guy had almost no real technique.

@yunarukami14

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnludtke4416 Which guy?

I heard no jazz. I heard no metal. Just a lot of chops, a fast latin and a really fast punk.

@noemiorellana90

5 жыл бұрын

Mladen Dragovic Amen

@jaedonclement-morton4985

5 жыл бұрын

Fast punk is metal...its known as thrash...smh

@donaldinglese1243

5 жыл бұрын

Latin is jazz...

@bombarolomagicdore9822

5 жыл бұрын

@@donaldinglese1243 Exactly (if we speak about rythm)

@Kaonashimusic

5 жыл бұрын

Thats definitely jazz

Good job, you really picked a fair match-up here. Totally equal in skill and knowledge of their genres.

Can't think of a thing. Both were good in their own right. I got teary eyed just by watching the two. I love this s**t

1:01 "Hearts All Gone"

@ihopeyoudie30

4 жыл бұрын

nice catch

@DontTouchMyChips

3 жыл бұрын

Searched through the comments just for this

@jairocampo1992

3 жыл бұрын

Dude I thought the same thing

The jazz guy killed it. Should have replaced the "metal" drummer with Alex Rudinger or Romain Goulon or some shit lol

@Lucdera

4 жыл бұрын

Literally with every well known metal drummer xD

@kheishenquah5507

4 жыл бұрын

Joey jordison or Aaron Kitcher or jay Weinberg lol

@pucaccio

4 жыл бұрын

GEORGE KOLLIAS

@jerryhello

4 жыл бұрын

Because jazz is way harder. It requires so much more than just stamina and chops.

@will66kg91

4 жыл бұрын

Kheishen Quah lmao.

Both were great. Both didn't take it too seriously. Very funny stuff! 😂.

I like them both!

That's why you don't pigeon-hole yourself into a single genre, learn and take what you can from all styles. That's how you develop originality.

This was cool.....BOTH guy's are incredible

I LOVE BOTH!

I can listen to a you 2 choppin and poppin all day!

Gotta give credit to those smooth-as-hell rimshots.

I prefer jazz so much more, theres so much more rythm and dare i say swing to it

@spacejazz6272

8 жыл бұрын

it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing

@eagles97796

8 жыл бұрын

Stephen Barlow Exactly :)

@mragun9k

7 жыл бұрын

i like both but jazz is harder

@antonve9951

7 жыл бұрын

It really isn't both metal and jazz can be easy to learn what makes it hard is the dynamics

@hannes1734

7 жыл бұрын

Eric Cartman You haven't listened to much jazz if you say that. Jazz is about as diverse as Metal.

I listen and learn from both!

Man, this was awesome! Loved them both!

at 1:00 Davy starts playing a slightly different version of Hearts All Gone by Blink-182.

@MrClaytoncc

9 жыл бұрын

Ya i noticed. I didnt see it coming, but i knew someone else had to notice

1:50 - Sepultura 🤘🏻

@noname-pk6ez

3 жыл бұрын

Song?? Cavalera is a machine

@wimulvehill721

3 жыл бұрын

@@noname-pk6ez territory

Fun video!!!

This is why it’s important to be well rounded in all aspects of music & not just the music you love playing. Plus it makes you more marketable that way.

1:00 heart's all gone by blink-182

@theo1807

4 жыл бұрын

That’s my favorite black metal song

The guy that's playing jazz is a beast as for the metal guy ehhh lol Sweet video :)

thanks jazz for existing

Both awesome

jazz plays with heart, metal plays with power

@azerix4168

8 жыл бұрын

Nah metal's full of emotion

@dutt.instincts

8 жыл бұрын

+DDL a very dull emotion!...

@azerix4168

8 жыл бұрын

+Googoole TouYube It represent rage and I'll have you know that anger is just as much an emotion as any other. And before you state that it's stupid to be angry in music, it acts as a release and can heal layers of pain in the singer, songwriter or player, as well as in the consumer.

@dutt.instincts

8 жыл бұрын

Your reason is valid... I agree that music is expression and not suppression of emotions. And since anger is an emotion, why not channel it through music right? But does it have to have the same field of expression every time anger is experienced? No. It can be different and need not be monotonous or limited in range of expressions... That’s where jazz has more story-telling to its work and more range in its style. I would say metal bands generally have the tendency to stick to the same sound and the younger generation are more likely to be tone-deaf from it... Apart from the digitally appealing sound, the only thing that is missing in metal music is story-telling or improvisation... Now when it comes to anger it’s not stupid to express it in music. I wouldn’t count it out. The way it is treated makes a difference. Either you eat anger alive or whole before it feeds on you one “beat” at a time!

@johnvincent1823

6 жыл бұрын

Jazz drummers play with skill and theory, metal drummers play with extra chromosomes

Always been a jazz player. I like how jazz explores the kit and not just the snare, hat, and double bass like that of rock. Grandpa always told me, "If you can't make it as a jazz player, you'll end up being a rock drummer."

@djdm2603

8 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more haha, but there are very skilled drummers of all genres.

@vgfreak-dz9dm

8 жыл бұрын

+JoeDotPHP What about Buddy Rich? He was mainly a snare player, was he not? Plus, he's considered the best drummer to ever have lived.

@joedotphp

8 жыл бұрын

Buddy Rich explored the kit, trust me. Buddy played the snare as a solo instrument at incredible speeds. I'm referring to simply hitting the snare once every second like in most rock songs.

@azerix4168

8 жыл бұрын

The bias in this comment is baffling. Not to mention rock rarely incorporates double bass... That's metal. Firstly some drummers prefer to enter a career of rock and metal as they are more interested in the musical genre. Secondly I'll have you aware that metal is highly skilled and technical in a different way. It's like saying a professional basketball player has significantly more skill than a footballer. They're an alternate set of skills. Also your grandad didn't come up with that. Many ignorant people have already said it before.

@joedotphp

8 жыл бұрын

+DDL I'm well aware of the skills required to play in either genre. Yes, maybe it sounded a bit biased and I apologize. I've played both genres aplenty. Honestly I think I've played rock more than anything. I just prefer jazz. But don't you dare talk about my grandfather like that. I know he didn't make it up. He always said it as a joke and motivation for me to keep practicing.

Yo quiero ese sombrero! Buen video amigos

i’m obsessed with both ngl

fedora hat? no shirt? socks with slippers? that's so hardcore

@djentrification1631

5 жыл бұрын

I sense a neckbeard is present.

@richardedwardbyrd6857

4 жыл бұрын

Bullshit at its finest

somehow i dont think its a coincidence that in every one of these videos the jazz drummer wins

Dig that great Gretsch sound!

I do both genres. Jazz and rock. I love them both!

1:00 blink 182 heart's all gone

@strachu9646

4 жыл бұрын

And 0:25 is Davidian by Machine Head

Metal Guy Plays blink 182 heart's all gone??

@thomasn2689

10 жыл бұрын

I thought the same think !!! I think he does

The look he gives him while jazzing out 1:35 😂🤣🤣 this was kool. Thanks guys

Each style has it's own beauty! To play super clean+heavy+fast strokes with stamina in punk/metal is very challenging, akin to the difficulty of the subtle dynamics+complexities+odd meters of jazz/fusion. Different languages, not better/worse. Very few (if any) drummers in the world can do both at a high level.

Represents jazz... plays some metal licks...

@N617A

10 жыл бұрын

that's because metal pretty much came from jazz... except with more double bass and less hand...

@seethoseareyourtearsman.1758

7 жыл бұрын

N617A what the fuck

@Lucidfilth

6 жыл бұрын

Brax_tacks Metal has some jazz influence. Its just hard all they way.

@JazzDunn1

6 жыл бұрын

Brax_tracks a lot of things came from jazz

@gavinmarchon3516

6 жыл бұрын

I don't know if I would put metal in that small of a box as far as playing goes, but they do have similar influences from tons of genres (blues, african rhythms, baroque and classical theory, etc.)

He’s doing that Sepultura refuse resist beat at 1:43

@alwolfman6536

4 жыл бұрын

sounds like territory

@americanbrandon

4 жыл бұрын

Albert Greywolf ya your tight wrong song haha

Guys it’s not a competition between drummers or drum schools. It’s a marketing video dedicated to drums “Gretsch” that tells you “You can play jazz or even metal on our drums”. - both drum kits sounds amazing. The idea is quite good because for ex “TAMA” drums is more preferred by Metal musicians and “Yamaha” more for jazz. So here all the stiles could be played.

I like both metal and jazz! Tony Williams was jazz with a bit of rock. Listen to his early works like Emergency, Turn It Over, and Ego. He was a badass.

Was that the French national anthem on toms at 02:13 ? Lol.

@octinion3238

5 жыл бұрын

OUUIIIII !!! moi aussi j'étais étonné de l'entendre ici !

@enesyeldemir

5 жыл бұрын

Means he surrendered

@marcoolivares6018

4 жыл бұрын

AlloNS EnFAntS de lA paTRiiIiiE

@tomk7131

4 жыл бұрын

@@enesyeldemir LOL

they are both great!! the difference is other have 3 audiences while the other dude have 30,000... if ya know what I mean

@juuk3103

3 жыл бұрын

But those 3 have more money than the 30.000 combined 😂

Haha this amused me ! Both excellent drummers in their style.

You guessed it. It was me. I watched the video 2 million times.

Jazz Rules

That "metal" drummer just felt like he was supposed to be a joke. He just kind of hit stuff as hard as possible with a bit of double pedal in the mix. Get Matt Greiner on the show or Luke Holland or Chris Turner! That Jazz drummer did have some nice chops though :)

@Egoblivion

4 жыл бұрын

He's definitely pro though.

It’s all good fun.. both are kick ass drummers 🖖🏼

Excellent talent. If I had to pick, it would be the sound of the bigger shells.

0:43, when you realize you lost.

@thiagopinhal705

3 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha yeah

2:14 Wait.... Is this an attempt at the france national anthem?

@Ellanvannin03

3 жыл бұрын

I thought that too

Wow sound nice.

I've been listening o solo drums for 3hrs now, its 5am.....pls make me STAHAAAP!

Regardless of the "style," there are levels. As an example, I'm guessing that any drummer can recognize the ridiculous amount of skill it requires to play something like this. (The first 30 seconds are "easy," the rest...not so much: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Zquq08ifla3Rn6w.html)

Metal drummer and not blast beats? This is the reason why you don't combine metal and gretsch

I love this

Jazz drummers don’t get the recognition they deserve imo

not really metal drumming though

It was like Buddy Rich vs Animal :D

The jazz dude killed it! And did he try to annoy the metal guy to the fullest by not hitting that crash at the end :D

Bad ass drumming!!!

Metal: how fast can I play Jazz: how cool can I make something sound with as little as possible

I hate to be "that guy" but I prefer the last "Jazz vs Metal" video you all did. In that one, it was very distinct in style; here it seemed just like a shed session. Sure to the trained ear you could hear the differences, but if I didn't know any better, to me it all just kind of seemed like heavy hitting and chopping out. By no means though I'm not saying they are bad drummers, I just don't see the "jazz" coming from the one guy and I know that can be a very broad statement. But I can only hope those who read might understand where I come from in saying that. Like I said, hate to be that person, but the last first video did a lot better displaying the styles respectfully. Maybe it's times to cut back a little on the gospel chop videos guys.

oh yeah jazz i luv itt! my fav music genre😍😍

both nice