I've been watching and listening to NDSU since 2013. They are a meat grinder. They just never give up and keep on coming against pretty much anyone they go up against, even the tier one teams. Probably one of the most underrated teams in football.

@georgejohnson8674

Жыл бұрын

Yeah but if they face a big opponent then they're destroyed. That's why they don't face Ohio state, Alabama, Georgia, Texas, etc. Because they'll lose 50-7

@lowercherty

Жыл бұрын

@@georgejohnson8674 They've asked. None of those teams will risk playing them. They've generally beaten the FBS teams they have played, some with excellent records like Rose Bowl wins the previous season.. Everyone was looking forward to the Oregon Ducks, but COV intervened. Arizona State this fall. Not necessarily a powehouse but OK.

I watched this whole game live and it was one the best games I've ever seen. The last drive by NDSU was picture perfect, 80 yards and a touchdown and left Kansas State with very little time on the clock but a prayer. Outstanding!

@KozHornsUp

2 жыл бұрын

My brother and me watched like till we had to leave right before this drive. We had to pull over and get out of the car to listen. We looked like to loons in south fargo jumping and screaming when Scotty yelled touchdown bison

The game that made me an NDSU fan. Never forget this one -

I feel like NDSU was the first FCS team to beat an FBS team with straight up size and power Some of the biggest upsets were due to poor play by the FBS squad or flat out speed App State vs. Michigan: Won with a speedy App State team EWU vs. Oregon State: Won with a speedy EWU team James Madison vs. Virginia Tech: Abhorrent weather and sloppy play by the Hokies This NDSU game was won in the trenches, and that's not a scenario you see too often when an FCS wins against an FBS. Makes this win all that more impressive

And now one of their coaches is OURS! Welcome to Manhattan Coach Klieman!

@colt3125

4 жыл бұрын

Why u take our boi

@woodyhayes7402

4 жыл бұрын

@@colt3125 - Why do you talk like a thug?

@colt3125

4 жыл бұрын

@@woodyhayes7402 i play gta

@ocbee6175

4 жыл бұрын

Woody Hayes why are you such a fucking asshole about the way someone types on the internet?

I visited the NDSU campus in 2006 and was told that they had a strategy to be tops in athletics. They did, and ever since then I've been saying, "Just look out for North Dakota State." There are still some fans of other universities who haven't gotten the message yet. Again, I say, "Just look out..."

This game feels like yesterday, and here we are. Craig bohl has now retired, and NDSU has still been an absolute force.

As an NDSU graduate, this was one fun game to watch! Especially after a week of social media overconfidence by K State fans. What's really great about the Bison knocking off FBS teams, especially ranked ones, and conference champions, is that for all the talk, we don't expect to win, just to push it to the last drive. When the Bison win unexpected games it is so fun, because the rest of the time we expect victories in every FCS game (takes the drama out). Congratulations Bison on your 7th FCS Championship last weekend! Thanks coach Klieman, good luck in Manhattan KS!

As a Wildcat fan.. gotta give them credit. Glad to have their head coach with us now

trust me this is not a fluke, really ndsu is this good

@BryceJohnson88

2 жыл бұрын

This comment aged perfectly! 9 championships in 11 years!

@youknowitsmetheone

Жыл бұрын

@@BryceJohnson88 and Iowa State and Iowa wins as well!

For the rest of us who are fans of teams in the FBS, just be glad we don't have North Dakota State scheduled. It doesn't matter who you are, 1-A or 1-AA, they'll beat you.

@jakey20022

9 жыл бұрын

Iowa is next in 16' fbs vs fcs game

@juno.1

9 жыл бұрын

Unless your Alabama

@robertolebron2296

8 жыл бұрын

+jordan tacey Ohio State, Michigan, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Oregon, Stanford, LSU, a big list of teams that possibly can beat NDSU

@juno.1

8 жыл бұрын

Roberto Lebron well if you keep reading through the comments you will see that I later said any team can be beat on anyday. I posted that comment bc I got frustrated with alot of NDSU fans think could beat a power house team like Alabama or Clemsom or etc. That doesn't mean NDSU couldn't it's just that NDSU chances of doing that to an Alabama or Oregon is very slim.

@VancouverChokers

8 жыл бұрын

+Jake Rheault They can beat Iowa and that is no joke. Iowa has had problems with UNI over the years so NDSU will definitely give them a tussle.

NDSU is doing AWESOME. They are not only dominating FCS but beating FBS teams. I have never seen such domination since we (Georgia Southern) did it in the 80s and 90s. That drive was perfect! NDSU needs to move up to FBS.

@dakotahaanen25

9 жыл бұрын

I'm with u on that

@PicoRiveraCalifornia

9 жыл бұрын

Bocephus If NDSU played Ohio State, the Buckeyes would have gotten creamed.

@bats2x

8 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say that, but I do agree that the Bison should move up. Once they get there 5th in a row, the announcement is made and NDSU joins the Mountain West.

@stephenmendak9228

8 жыл бұрын

PicoRiveraCalifornia no they are not even comparable to ohio state but i agree that they should be in division 1

@ExsertYew

8 жыл бұрын

+Stephen Mendak They're in Division I FCS, they would dominate the MAC like Georgia Southern dominates the Sun Belt, the MWC is a whole other story, they wouldn't beat Boise, Colorado State or Air Force, and they'd struggle with Nevada and San Diego State. They'd go 6-6 or 7-5 mor than likely, maybe 8-4

What Beautiful drive 💯

The way Brock just bowls over one of the Lineman in the middle of the vid is so awesome! I hope we draft this guy in the 6th or 7th round, Brock looks to be like he could be a great NFL QB, to be have that poise, confidence, but most of all his composure unchanged in the final minutes just shows a great future leader. The fact he lead his Bison 4 times over FBS opponents shows that even with smaller, slower, and even more inexperienced players shows that he could hang with the big boys. He made this team look REALLY good, I can only imagine how good he can make an NFL team look and how good the team can make him look

Just watched the 21 NDSU championship game. NDSU needs to jump up to FBS. It's ridiculous how good they are compared to FCS teams.

The Wildcats are now 7-5 with small margin losses, which goes to show that this game was a legitimate win for NDSU. With a 7-3 FBS record so far, and an average win spread of over 20 points a game, this 2013 team could give any of the biggest names in college football a run for their money.

@ExsertYew

8 жыл бұрын

Not Ohio State or Alabama, they'd get beat by 30+. Same with TCU, Baylor, Michigan State or even Boise State

@TheSquishey

8 жыл бұрын

+ExsertYew0949 Obviously if you pick the best D1 schools lol. numb nuts

Bison are truly a team of destiny

What a drive.

2:57 clearly the FS1 guys weren't watching NDSU game tape based on that comment

No one wants to play Craig Bohl. No one. You either win ugly or lose ugly. Wyoming is very fortunate to have this coach.

the faces of the Kansas fans is priceless

@youwho2714

5 жыл бұрын

Especially KState Kid at 13:20

@youwho2714

4 жыл бұрын

Anyone know that kids name? I heard on time that NDSU fans made a lifesize cardboard cutout of that kid and were taking it to games.

6 National titles in 7 years and 7 semifinal games in the last 7 yrs 🤘🤘

@jace2349

5 жыл бұрын

I can’t be live it I was on the field when they had three in a row

@howardbaxter2514

5 жыл бұрын

Nice. To be fair, y’all would have a lot less National Titles if App State was still in FCS.

@92Foxbody5.0

5 жыл бұрын

@@howardbaxter2514 App State was a good fcs program but these NDSU teams would smash them to be honest

@skirtchaser40

5 жыл бұрын

@@howardbaxter2514 NDSU is 3-0 against Georgia Southern in the FCS. In those 3 years they played, Georgia Southern played App State. Compare the scores. You are wrong.

@snake57

2 жыл бұрын

Now there is 9. Never gets old.

NDSt has been a FBS school for years playing on the FCS level. It's amazing what that program has done over the last 10yrs.

As a K-State fan this doesn’t hurt as much anymore since we got their coach lol

@natesimmons6992

5 жыл бұрын

Which coach? He went to Wyoming

@joelbeyer6352

5 жыл бұрын

Chris Klieman, recently named the new coach at KSU was an NDSU assistant for this game. When Craig Bohl went to Wyoming following the 2013 season Chris Klieman took over as the Bison head coach. Interestingly the back up Bison qb for this game was Carson Wentz.

@stantaylor3350

4 жыл бұрын

I've been watching both Craig bolh, & Chris Klieman this season & both are having seasons so far. The last BISON football show that Craig bolh was on, he stated, " The Program" is in place, if NDSU continues to follow The Program I expect them to keep winning! & They have. I don't know what the program is but now K- State has it through coach K. Many victories are in the future for K- State.

It's like watching someone suffocate - EDSBS

Our guy Carson on the sidelines. Fly eagles Fly

When I see Vraa catch even way back here, I think someone in the NFL hasn't discovered this other Adam Thielen.

So apparently Goose and Maverick’s commanding officer is also the head coach at NDSU. Top Gun? God help us!!

@youknowitsmetheone

Жыл бұрын

I have never noticed that till now hahahaha I love Coach Bohl

KState fans are quieter and quieter the longer the drive goes. Should have been getting louder and louder. Still learning, as a fanbase, how to win I guess.

@3:48 - Future QB star and second overall pick in the draft, Wentzzzzzz

@anubismaat2813

7 жыл бұрын

My Eagles got him

@michaelmchale9427

7 жыл бұрын

Anubis TheTrapLord the guy in Dallas about 100 picks behind is blowing his doors off

@anubismaat2813

7 жыл бұрын

Carson Wentz Still Better

The game that put the Bisons on the map

Wat a great game

funnest game as a bison fan I have ever been to.

@TylerMcComb18

10 жыл бұрын

glad you guys had fun! Hope to see NDSU again some day. :)

@halverdha1

10 жыл бұрын

Tyler McComb that won't happen for a long time, everything has changed, lost a tonof seniors, and the head coach went to Wyoming, but who knows

@TylerMcComb18

10 жыл бұрын

Andrew Halverson aw crap, well either way I'm sure you guys will beat Iowa State next season.

@halverdha1

10 жыл бұрын

Tyler McComb that might be a rough game

@TylerMcComb18

10 жыл бұрын

Andrew Halverson nah, Iowa State is the new KU lol

They’ve got Oregon coming up this year. The Ducks should not take NDSU lightly!!!! They can play!!!

And to all the Bison hater comments. They only got better and more dominate from here

oh seet sweet memories :)

That quarterback strikes me as a Tom Brady type--a "system quarterback" who has one hell of a system and uses it masterfully. I don't think he made it to the pros, though.

@BTSpr0

3 жыл бұрын

Old comment, but yeah he was with the Dolphins' camp I think but didn't make it. Was in CFL for a few years.

It's a re-building year man but don't use it to bag on NDSU. They have a good reason to be proud even if it's not as strong of a team as last year.

@chuckyufarley2999

5 жыл бұрын

Reads like a Hawkeye fan comment 3 years later.

WOW now that is football

A lot of bison fans there.

It was a fun game to watch, both solid teams. K-State aren't what they were last year by a long shot. I will say that much but it doesn't take away from NDSU playing one hell of a game. In fact, I think it would have been interesting to see how both teams did with last years K-State team. The game would have been even more intense. (Coming from a K-State student.) NDSU could quite possibly beat a chunk of the Big 12 teams.

How many bizon fans watch Carson Wentz and the eagles?

6:15 Music for an imminent death, as NDSU slowly suffocates the defense. If I was a Kansas player, I'd go up to the band and ask them whose side they're on.

@BorisJohnson129

5 жыл бұрын

kasteman1 *State

Never expect an fcs. 🙄

i was at this game lol k state got beat opening night. Enjoyed being there though.

Bison Nation!

Same kind of game ending drive(with way less time, same amount of plays) the Griz just had to win...

In d1 I think they can finish at #19 or 20 there that solid I think

1 year anniversary of NDSU physically whooping K STATE. HAHA. 40 yards rushing for k state

Lets go BISON!!!!!!!

A lot of talk that the Packers could potentially draft Jensen. He looks like he'd be a good back up/third option behind Aaron Rodgers. Good arm, smart, excellent pocket presence, and he's patient.

@stantaylor3350

4 жыл бұрын

The NFL hadn't heard of the BISON yet, they weren't looking this way then. To bad for Brock. He played a few years in the CFL, now he is a financial advisor in Minneapolis. Comes to the Fargo dome for special games

@stantaylor3350

4 жыл бұрын

Google BISON in the NFL surprising how many there are & some are on the practice squads.

how was k-state not ranked?? they went 11-2 and made the fiesta bowl in 2012, they were even #1 at one point that season.

@matthewvuldis821

5 жыл бұрын

No more Collin Klein.

@Skylicity

5 жыл бұрын

Matthew Vuldis One player hurt them THAT much though? I know Klein was good but that’s crazy.

@codypolar6593

5 жыл бұрын

New season, new team.

Former Nebraska coach helped build this team!

@chuckyufarley2999

5 жыл бұрын

Who, Bohl? He was a good coach, but NDSU was a winning program long before he got there. He definitely helped them transition from DII, but their 15 national championships came under 7 different coaches. Only one of the first 6 matched the success he'd had at NDSU after leaving. I wish Coach Klieman the best and hope he continues winning in Manhattan, but history is not on his side. It's hard to quantify what constitutes a tradition of excellence, but whatever it is, NDSU has it in spades.

@youwho2714

4 жыл бұрын

@@chuckyufarley2999 Bohl spent too much time banging cheerleaders in Nebraska.

this game was in manhattan kansas where k-state is located

3:48 Carson Wentz #FlyEaglesFly

@SteveEdward_

6 жыл бұрын

Anthony Wilfinger nice catch haha. Go Bison!

@SteveEdward_

6 жыл бұрын

Anthony Wilfinger Fly Eagles Fly as well!

@jace2349

5 жыл бұрын

Anthony Wilfinger haha

@thebipolarbear1

5 жыл бұрын

Our Young fella waiting for his Time. Now look at him. Should have been NFL MVP and has a ring . Fly eagles Fly

gave iowa a black eye!!! lmao

I put together a list of possible FCS upset over FBS teams using the preseason polls. Tell me what you think any additions? 3. South Dakota State (10-3), 3,631 (1); Final 2018 Ranking: 3. -@ Minn upset 5. UC Davis (10-3), 3,210; Final 2018 Ranking: 7. @California upset 6. Jacksonville State (9-4), 3,004; Final 2018 Ranking: 10. @South Alabama upset 7. Maine (10-4), 2,891; Final 2018 Ranking: 4. @Georgia Southern upset 8. Weber State (10-3), 2,827; Final 2018 Ranking: 6. @San Diego St 0-6 @Nevada upset

That's when I knew it was the end for Bill Snyder.

@JohnnyKaw11B

5 жыл бұрын

I kind of suspected it when Oregon was driving right before the end of the first half in the Fiesta bowl and Bill didn't use a timeout to try to break up their rhythm or or give his players a chance to get their heads straight. I mean that's football 101, and we walked into the locker room with 2 or 3 timeouts. It was very un-Snyder like. It doesn't seem like much but I just got a weird feeling about it.

Of course he was just an assistant coach then... and he also beat you as a player (at Northern Iowa)!

3:49 -- future 100 million dollar qb

I put together a list of potential FCS wins over the FBS using the preseason FCS poll. Tell me what you think, can you think of others. Football fanatics aren’t fully informed unless they spent time studying the FCS, esp theMontana and Dakota schools.

K States defense got beat down. They were running on empty by the end of the game

@navtechie

10 жыл бұрын

NDSU has most all of their opponents defense with their hands on their hips and gasping for air by the 3rd quarter.

@RobertRodriguezdrummer

10 жыл бұрын

They weren't ready for the first game. The way they play now is completely different and it would be fun to see how the game would go now that K-State has gotten their act together.

Let's all be honest here, there is NO SECRET to what NDSU has done to build their program. So, with their blueprint and design so well known, why haven't more schools in the FCS done more to go above and beyond the Bison, especially the schools in the MVFC? There is absolutely no excuse, little alone any single reason, why other programs (UND, UNI, Southern Illinois, SDSU) can't have the same or higher level of program as NDSU.

@kolefreeman7654

5 жыл бұрын

Smith N. Wesson what did they do?

@wade5941

5 жыл бұрын

@@kolefreeman7654 What did they do? Really?Recruit, red shirt, develop, win championships consistently. Repeat. Alabama is the NDSU of FBS and they do the same thing. No secret.

@codypolar6593

5 жыл бұрын

@@kolefreeman7654 They recruit good players, not just physically but mentally good. Then they have their excellent coaching recruits teach them. And finally, living in Fargo ND keeps them grounded. You don't get the cocky players like Brian Bosworth and the generation of me-first, look-what-I-did, players that he spawned. Go Bison!

Hot and humid in Kansas you say ? .... get outta town...

Just to think Carson Wentz didn’t hardly get recognized at this time. Edit: he’s at 3:50 hahah

Oh no. An FCS team at home! 🙄

just cause we lost to Montana doesn't mean we're bad lol, they're a good team js. but we need some DBs like fr

@RemKrueger

8 жыл бұрын

+Jack V We have an excellent DB that was injured that game. We are much more solid in pass D now. Still not as good as the last few years, but much better than the UM game.

@Eaglemna

8 жыл бұрын

You look like this guy I met in San Diego

@Eaglemna

8 жыл бұрын

We probably met in Hebron when I brought some XBOXs over to your brother's house. Could be a case of mistaken identity though.

Meatgrinderrrrr

This isn't anywhere near the team KSU had 10 months ago. No Collin Klein and the defense lost all of its studs including Arthur Brown, Meshak Williams, etc.

@TheAiDaN2110

5 жыл бұрын

@Derek Johansen TiDom So are you saying Jake Waters is better than Collin Klein? And then you're trashing Collin Klein. Are you fucking kidding me? Was Jake Waters ever in any consideration for Heisman or Big 12 Player of the Year? Take a look at Klein's collegiate achievement. And this was Water's first game btw. Michael Bishop, Collin Klein, Ell Roberson, all better in college than any NDSU QB. I assume you're referring to the guy that Nick Foles has carried. But we're talking college careers here. And who the fuck was the other NFL caliber WR besides Lockett? You seriously have no idea what you're talking about. Not to mention K-State's defense lost a ton of significant players. They were one bad night in Waco from playing for a national title in 2012. Nowhere close to that in 2013. Your argument that those teams were even close to the same caliber is laughable.

@chuckyufarley2999

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheAiDaN2110 The only K State QB I've ever heard of was Chad May and he was a chubby little turd who ran like my grandma. Face it, only people in Manhattan know or care about your team.

So that's why they beat K state this year?

Let's just get rid of the FCS and FBS subdivisions and make it all D1

Lol ask Pete Carroll about our fan base

when replying to someone you should hit reply so they know what your talking about but im guessing your on your phone so you cant

Please do not say that NDSU could beat most Big12 teams. It gives SEC plus Pac 12 reason to put themselves as the almighty race when they aren't.

@chuckyufarley2999

5 жыл бұрын

@Derek Johansen or something The Big Ten and Big 12 have learned their lessons, and starting next year we'll see the Pac 12 start learning theirs.

@carmenfreni694

4 жыл бұрын

Finish 8-4 if d1 unless there in the sec

Need a reminder of how bad KSU? Watch this video.

@VancouverChokers

8 жыл бұрын

+AmericanMetalhead100 Dude lay off. Do you realize how bad that football program was in 1989? They were considering dropping football altogether. In the world of college football coaching, Bill Snyder is a man amongst men. This is coming from a dyed in the wool lifetime NU fan btw.

Haha K-State got its revenge.

@captainspartan04

5 жыл бұрын

Not really

@tidal9

5 жыл бұрын

If you can't beat the coach, buy him.

Why even play a fcs team there's no benefit if you win, if you lose you will fall out of the top 25

terrible 3rd down defense.....NDSU got nothing on 1st down while they were in their territory. 1st 3 3rd downs KSU defense should of got off the field and forced a punt. Terrible D

@TheSquishey

8 жыл бұрын

+lukkyluciano lol umad?

@lukkyluciano

8 жыл бұрын

no not at all. Just commenting. I'm a Pitt fan.

@sirdonutboy566

8 жыл бұрын

+TheSquishey ya he mad tho

@sirdonutboy566

8 жыл бұрын

ndsu would destroy pitt

greatest drive in "history"? Lol

NDSU lost their athletic director and a football coach to KState because of that game. Your greatest drive was a blessing for KState and not so much for you!

The whitest team in CFB

Greatest Drive? But there were so many stupid plays, sacks, no gain runs etc. the result was wonderful as a result of terrific big plays, but the entire drive? Don’t think so. The runs are horrible, They need to pass on every down, use deception, that should open up a few nice runs when they get close. If you add up the positive gain plays it’s not a decent percentage. I’m a huge fan of the North and South Dakota teams I love upsets. The clock management is excellent. I remember the score of this game but it wasn’t on in my area.

@wade5941

5 жыл бұрын

Not every play on a successful drive is going to gain yards. The fact they called some stupid plays, had plays for no gain, and still managed to control the clock and run 19 plays against the defending Big 12 champs to do so is EXACTLY why it was a great drive.

Iowa football

@jonbeck5546

5 жыл бұрын

what about iowa fb?

good game, too bad they played us in a rebuilding season, if it was 2012 season we wouldve killed em.

@Exzachtly_ND

9 жыл бұрын

Excuses won't change the fact that K State still lost to NDSU. Bison has won 25 straight games in a row (most in college football ever) for a reason.

@frenchfrey65

9 жыл бұрын

ruen125 not to mention they just won again today against Iowa State, 5 in a row now vs FBS, bring them up already, they're too good for FCS

@TylerMcComb18

9 жыл бұрын

iowa state is the worst team in the big 12...

@Exzachtly_ND

9 жыл бұрын

Tyler McComb Stop making excuses. You keep trying to downplay what NDSU has done because you are just mad that NDSU beat your almighty FBS team. A smart fan regardless of team knows when to give credit where its due. Dumb fans try to make excuses and downplay the achievement of a team.

@TylerMcComb18

9 жыл бұрын

ruen125 im not making excuses... you guys beat us. fair and square. I'm just saying it would have been a very different game if it was played in the 2012 season. we were a pretty terrible team in 2013.

4 tackles for a loss in the span of 20 yards? Pretty far from great.

@trahnettilhcs

8 жыл бұрын

Fpk Hk416 That's what you gleaned from this?

@emptyhand777

5 жыл бұрын

And yet, despite the setbacks, NDSU didn't wilt under the pressure and kept moving forward.

hah, please bro. I know texas has had a rough year, but they would never lose to a pile of shit FCS team at home like K State would

@chuckyufarley2999

5 жыл бұрын

That "pile of shit team" had a number 2 overall pick in the NFL on the bench in this game. Carson Wentz was an early favorite for MVP in his second year in the league before blowing out a knee. The guy only started for 2 years at NDSU. His career was bookended by two guys who BOTH ended their careers as the winningest QBs in FCS history. Texas hasn't scared anyone for the better part of a decade and only beat this K State team by a TD more than NDSU...AT HOME. Besides the year they beat USC, you have to go back to the days of Earl Campbell to remember when Texas was a dominant team. All this on an athletic budget that could bankroll a number of small nations.

NDSU had to enjoy that win because they know it will never happen again!! GO CATS!! #EMAW

@JohnnyKaw11B

5 жыл бұрын

@Derek Johansen TiDom Easy there wildman, K-State started this season like 2-5 because we lost one of the best players and leaders to ever walk on a football field to graduation and we had a quarterback debacle on our hands. I'm not shitting on NDSU by any means however if we had played in mid November I think the results would have been different. Thanks for the coach by the way!

@JohnnyKaw11B

5 жыл бұрын

@Derek Johansen TiDom Lol jealousy doesn't become you my friend.

@JohnnyKaw11B

5 жыл бұрын

@Derek Johansen TiDom Keep your fantasies if you must, your head coach is moving on to bigger and better things as will many of his assistants and probably even a few of his players. I guess we will have to see if he can transition to real football, and how NDSU will fare without him. Bye bye now, take care.

@JohnnyKaw11B

5 жыл бұрын

@Derek Johansen TiDom Obviously your former coach thinks it's bigger and better things or he wouldn't have taken the job. I hope he builds off of our hall of fame coach and bring us some Big 12 championships like his predecessor did. That of course is better than winning any number of FCS Nattys seeing as how NDSU wouldn't sniff a Big 12 championship with any team they've ever had.

@JohnnyKaw11B

5 жыл бұрын

@Derek Johansen TiDom I don't call beating a rebuilding team early in the season by 3 points on a long drive that was in danger of stalling several times "roasting" them. I don't think you should lean too much on the Sagarin rating as its very, very theoretical and besides two Big 12 teams are ahead of you in the ratings. So go by that if you want to but you still wouldn't be close to a Big 12 championship, hell you wouldn't have even been in the game. Again keep your delusions if that's what makes you feel better about yourself but the fact remains that NDSU is a big fish in a small pond, and if they had to play a P5 schedule they probably would be at best a 6-6 team.

Too bad the weather is so shitting in North Dakota.