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@timbitscat8933

4 ай бұрын

Ok.. Im not going to poop all over this idea, but as a simple paleontologist, lets nail your boots to the floor. The ideas of ropes and pullies seems over thunk. According to my old Egyptologiy professor, these people were much more grounded. These were people who rode boats up the nile, that is they used ores, like the Sun Boat. So, put ores in those sloats, put a few people ontop of the stone, and have them row the stone up to the next groove in the stone, use the holes on the walls as breaks to stop the stone from rolling back. Leaver the stones up is safer then a rope snap and screeming down to the start point.

@readyforlifenow

4 ай бұрын

You started to realise that history was a lie but you suddenly changed your mind, you are now a shill. You know our history is a lie and what the true purpose of the pyramids are and their true age

@testboga5991

4 ай бұрын

Brilliant work! What I don't understand about the counterweight system, though, are two things: 1: how does a counterweight reduce the weight of the block? Once it's moved down, it itself would have to be raised. Best case is splitting the weight of the granite blocks in half, so that on the up and downstroke always 1/2 of the weight needs to be pulled. But that hardly sounds like its worth making such an effort. 2: where is all the abrasion that would need to have happened during such extensive use? The few striations there are would support only very limited use.

@RAJohns

4 ай бұрын

The only pre-flood (Black Sea) man-made structure left on Earth. What do think about Tompkins “Secrets” book? There’s another book with the “pyramid inch,” Can’t find it.

@dreddykrugernew

4 ай бұрын

Drilling stone like this? kzread.info/dash/bejne/lIdowa1uj9eukso.html

Last time I was this early, the Pyramids were still covered in casing stones!

@AncientArchitects

4 ай бұрын

😂

@Knitting_n_Trucking

4 ай бұрын

lol!!

@dougalexander7204

4 ай бұрын

lol.

@mikej557

4 ай бұрын

Excellent. If you can remember your age. Maybe we can work out how old they really are.

@bryanergau6682

4 ай бұрын

Neat. What was jesus like? I heard he was kind of a dick.

If that hidden void is another Grand Gallery, perhaps the (speculative, proposed) wooden stone cart is in there still. Maybe even the same one used below, in the present Grand Gallery... and which was disassembled and rebuilt up above it, for use there. As you say, wood was precious. Also, all that work in constructing such a "dolly" would not go to waste if reused up above. All wild, hopeful speculation. I'm 66 now, and I certainly hope the hidden chamber is revealed in my lifetime. I don't want to "leave" without answers!

@AnKub.Poland

3 ай бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/lZaTuNVqhay0gto.html

What I like about Houdins theory the most is that he seriously takes the genius of the buiders into account. They weren't some cruel slavemasters rawhiding people to unhuman tasks, they did meticulous planning and designed every detail not only to the pinnacle of beauty but to the very core of function too. True masters of engineering.

@philsurtees

4 ай бұрын

Exactly! Their Einsteins and Newtons spent their whole lives working out how to cut, move, and stack stones, then they passed their knowledge on to the next generation of Da Vinci's and Galileis, who spent their lives doing the same. They had nothing else to do! People say we couldn't build them today, but we built the LHC and the Space Shuttle - amongst numerous other things - using the same brains they had. If we had a reason to build the pyramids again, now, using the same tools they had - if we believed we were going to starve and die if we didn't succeed - then you'd better believe our best and brightest could work it out! The point being that, yes, no doubt they had some genius in their methodology, and Houdin's theory credits them with intelligence, as you rightly point out...

@fennynough6962

4 ай бұрын

What are you talking about? The Pharaoh's of Egypt were some of the cruelest & manipulative, Despots, to ever have existed.

@brosettastone7520

4 ай бұрын

@@fennynough6962later dynastic pharaohs that lost their way after nobody was around anymore to teach the old ways and greed & war plagued their minds. The pyramid was built way before their time by unknown engineers

@dointh4198

4 ай бұрын

@@fennynough6962 I was talking about the builders, not the pharaohs. As far as we know the pyramids weren't built neither by slaves nor the kings themselves. In case of Imhotep we know a building-engineer of the pyramids by name. Why is it in the Internet, that there are always some quickreaders trying to make a point by the most negative conjecture? We could improve the discussion so much by carful reading and a more positive and appreciating attitude.

@brianpartridge5654

Ай бұрын

The "egyptians" did NOT build the pyramids of giza to think they did is just ridiculous

I Remember the first time I entered the grand gallery, and immediately got the sense that it was some sort of machine, ceremonial use did not enter my head at that time, I always imagined the blocks being hauled up the gallery on a sled and the notches having timbers in them to prevent the sled sliding backwards accidentally should something go wrong ie a rope breaking, these could of been put in place with people riding on the shed and removed again as the sled started to descend. the counter weight would run underneath the sled as the sled made its way up raised on the 2 side ledges. The counter weight could have also been a container of water which would make it easier to control the speed of the assent of the sled and needing a lot less man power, the well shaft may then have been for the drainage of the excess the water. The problem I have with this idea is how you get the water to the top of the grand gallery to fill the container. But if we look at the Lynton and Lynmouth Cliff Railway that was fully powered with water, no pump needed and I believe the only one that exists, whereas the other cliff railways such as the Babbacombe one in Torquay needed a pump to raise the water from the bottom sump back to the top. Was the subterranean chamber a sump? More food for thought. Thanks for another great video.

@adriantuesta1012

4 ай бұрын

Honestly, I don't agree with the assertions made in these lost ancient technology videos regarding the Giza pyramids. They're just pyramids; there's nothing particularly advanced or practical about them. The reason many cultures built pyramids is because it's the simplest way to construct a large, tall stone structure without it collapsing. The inherent stability comes from the fact that 95 percent of the pyramid's total volume is solid rock. Essentially, you're just stacking rocks on top of each other. This explains why nearly all significantly tall ancient structures were pyramidal in shape, including the Sumerian ziggurats and the Egyptian pyramids. The sole exception to this pattern was the Lighthouse of Alexandria, built by the Greeks. Unlike pyramids, the Lighthouse featured floors, windows, and tiers, making it undoubtedly more advanced and practical. While the pyramids were undoubtedly impressive for their time, they weren't the pinnacle of ancient engineering. Exploring the interior of the Great Pyramid, for instance, doesn't reveal large open spaces like arches domes or vaults, highlighting their functional limitations. Even the Egyptians, after Giza, ceased constructing large pyramids, likely due to the realization that it wasn't economically sustainable and represented a significant waste of resources. What practical use does a pyramid serve anyway? It's essentially just a stack of rocks. Consequently, they shifted their focus to constructing large temples, which, despite also being religious structures, provided usable space with features like columns and halls. The Egyptians had to resort to using numerous interior columns to prevent the roof from collapsing, as they lacked the keystone arch technology. In comparison, structures like the Lighthouse of Alexandria or the Roman aqueducts are undeniably more advanced and practical than pyramids. Yet, curiously, discussions around lost ancient high technology rarely include them."

@styleisaweapon

4 ай бұрын

@@adriantuesta1012 also the hand-waving about "precision cuts" is just empty nonsense - its called finish, its not done when cutting, and the powder from the cutting is what is used for the finish sanding

@360ODYSY

4 ай бұрын

You can use an Archimedes screw to transport water upwards

@1206anton

4 ай бұрын

@@360ODYSY Archimedes was the inventor. He lived 2000 years later.

@alanmarshall4989

4 ай бұрын

​@@adriantuesta1012 fully agree.

Im far from any kind of expert (even as a student layperson), but find Houdin's hypothesis the most compelling. Not only does it solve turning the problem of the blocks turning the corners, but does so in the most elegant and least labor intensive way (Occam's Razor), -at least compared with other methods Ive seen suggested.There are also marks in the stone the ropes and sleds would have left.

Loving your videos! Keep doing what you do! Much appreciated!

I alwayss return to your channel... Great respect for all u do, Thanks for taking us with u on your journey all these years and keep an open mind. ❤

I think that a wooden deck was fitted at the height of the raised sides. You can see where this would have locked in. And a counter weight was underneath where the stairs are now. This would have been used to pull stones up the deck. The step at the top is so that a block could have been pulled directly onto rollers or a sled. The side stones in the walls are likely safety stops to avoid the stone sliding backwards

@AncientArchitects

4 ай бұрын

I think the gallery was ‘finished’ with some kind of decking. Stones infilled the holes in the wall (as these would be visible above the decking) but the slots in the floor just covered over.

@smole321

4 ай бұрын

​@@AncientArchitectsit woukd make sense to be covered after, i bet the bottom secrion was greased and chipped from the counternweight so would have been best covered up. And still plenty of head room 😅😂

@MrLikeAsatellite

3 ай бұрын

@@AncientArchitects But what about the grooves 5:39? Those had been made after filling the holes and would have been visible after the floor was laid.

@smole321

3 ай бұрын

​@@MrLikeAsatellitemy thoughts was that these are grooves to house large stone blocks that would be put in place behind the sled as it was lifted. This would work as a safety mechanism to stop the sled sliding all the way back down if a rope snapped etc

Another fantastic video Matt. The best explanation of the grand gallery yet !!

I have been a long time subscriber... this video was the best in a long time -- and they are all good. Thanks for the details.

This is actually the best explanation I've ever heard and I've been crazy about Egypt my entire life, so I've heard all sorts of explanations.

Brilliant and wonderful video.. It all made so much sense mechanically.. Thank you for all your hard work! Another great video..

I have a problem with the amount of tension that would be on those ropes lifting a 60 ton block plus the mechanism *and* the lack of pulleys to guide this rope. Suppose you had to lift some heavy blocks up 10ft. You throw a large hemp rope over a tree branch above and attempt to lift it with the rope. If it was a 1 lb weight it wouldn't matter but if it is 100 lbs it will create excessive friction and be very difficult to move. This is why we have pulleys.

@tedolphbundler724

4 ай бұрын

The "tree branch" rotated in the sockets.

@knurlgnar24

4 ай бұрын

I find it difficult to believe they didn't have pulleys. It is known that the Egyptians knew about wheels even if they didn't employ them en-mass, so it seems logical a wheel was used to reduce friction. You have to remember that they did not have decent bearing technology which made vehicles using wheels impractical, but this WOULD have been a practical use of a wheel, probably needing replacement frequently.

@SHERMA.

3 ай бұрын

having basic pullies is one thing the idea they could make advanced pullies able to deal with such weights is another thing entirely the idea they could make pullies that could endure such a lifespan of work is crazier yet again i can understand them managing to make a pully that might of worked a handful of times but 100'000s of times is nuts @@knurlgnar24

@ChadLuciano

3 ай бұрын

The Rhind Papyrus (ca. 1650 BC) gives us insight into the mathematics of ancient Egypt. The Egyptians calculated the area of a circle by a formula that gave the approximate value of 3.1605 for π....almost a 1000 years after they are built...I speculate that they knew circles well before this time period thus the knowledge to construct the pulley...there is still more to the puzzle...@@knurlgnar24

@waynemyers2469

2 ай бұрын

The builders did have what were called "protopulleys" which were solid, pulley-like devices that lacked movable rollers but still guided the rope and reduced friction.

Amazing! Thanks for the presentation, thank you to Jean Pierre as well

Thank you for another brilliant video!

Amazing Episode. Thank you!

@AncientArchitects

4 ай бұрын

Thanks 🙏

This makes so much more sense then huge Earthen ramps being installed and removed. I recently toured the Hoover Dam and their are many examples like this of construction structures that were removed after their use was over.

It reminds me of the slides found in deep level bunkers. Supplies and stretchers with casualties on would be lowered and pulled up with a winch.

Wow. Thanks for this great explanation.

Hi Matt ~ hope all is well with ya🤗 Tfsharing Pyramids ▪exciting to learn. Still happy you got to visit them, and will go back again. Wish we could go too!

This is an elegant and beautiful explanation of the purpose of the grand gallery! It makes total sense given the evidence presented.

@edser_b

4 ай бұрын

However the context is missing from the evidence. These people could cut and move blocks that dwarf the large granite blocks in the pyramid. And move them 100s of miles! They would not have needed to build the inside of the pyramid to lift a few little 70 ton granite blocks! The unfinished obelisk in the Aswan quarry would have needed to be lifted 50 feet into the air and moved over rough terrain and then 300 miles, and it weighs around 1000 tons. So why would 70 tons be a challenge. IT WOULDN'T.

@marinoceccotti9155

4 ай бұрын

@@edser_bDefinitely not a challenge, but a solution like Houdin's is 1) makes the construction quicker 2) and cheaper, as we all know, time is money, and all the workers were paid.

@roylcraft

4 ай бұрын

@@edser_b ......I would say they did all those things with devices. Devices we can no longer see or imagine. BUT I think the grand gallery is such a device. All the wood parts are gone but only the stone remains of this device. All others were made out of wood so that is why we have no proof of such machines/devices. "grand gallery lifting devices" could have been on the outside of the pyramid with the counterweights on the opposite side of the pyramid. Looking at the way they mastered stone one can only imagine the marvels they made in wood.

@LyubomirIko

4 ай бұрын

Nonsense. The Pyramid of Khafre and the other pyramids doesn't have those kind of "constructional elevator" like the Grand Gallery. Yet, they are build without that "so much needed constructional elevator". By all means the ideas of Houdin are naive and fringe, especially his claims of the original purpose of the shafts - "holes for construction communication"...Please. While other theories goes into other fringe territories, the ideas of Jean-Pierre Houdin are completely deprived of any esoteric drive and purpose, completely utilitarian and with that - blind.

What's this notification... new Ancient Architect's video. Don't mind if I do, made my evening.

@AncientArchitects

4 ай бұрын

Enjoy!

@shanerobertson6267

4 ай бұрын

Made my morning 😂

Your passion for this topic is inspiring. Thanks for the excellent work. I think I saw the issue with the "repaired" step on a History for Granite video. Can't imagine the thinking process involved with that decision.

Fascinating building! Keep up the good work Matt!

Houdans explanation makes a great deal of sense

@AncientArchitects

4 ай бұрын

I agree

@palladium1083

10 күн бұрын

It implies stone blocks were scratched by wooden planks. What sort of "making sense" are we talking about?

A nice idea but one that does not make sense to me. If the purpose of the grand gallery was simply a slide or guideway for large granite stones to be raised to the height of the Kings Chamber, the efforts in its construction would seem to far outway the end result. And simply stating a 'counter-weight' mechanism was employed without showing where is was and how it worked, is a huge negative, as this is the balancing part of the whole mechanism. And did I see wheels and pulleys in the animation? So, without evidence of the counter-weight system - which would need to be opposite/in-line with the grand gallery - it remains as I said, a nice idea but one missing 50% of the evidence required. Or have I missed something? Regards from UK

@LyubomirIko

4 ай бұрын

The Pyramid of Khafre and the other pyramids doesn't have those kind of "constructional elevator" like the Grand Gallery. Yet, they are build without that "so much needed constructional elevator". By all means the ideas of Houdin are naive and fringe, especially his claims of the original purpose of the shafts - "holes for construction communication"...Please. While other theories goes into other fringe territories, the ideas of Jean-Pierre Houdin are completely deprived of any esoteric drive and purpose, completely utilitarian and with that - blind.

@LyubomirIko

3 ай бұрын

@@user-kb8lr5ed4l Non permanent counter-weight contraption could have been installed anywhere (if this was their technology in the first place) doing the same job. But nothing in a permanent oversized structural instability - as what the Grand Gallery is, screams utilitarianism, quite the opposite.

As always great content yo🎉🎉

Fascinating theory! Thank you for the great video!

the best explanation for the grand gallery Ive heard of so far!

Very interesting video as always. I always watch everything related to the Great Pyramid. Your efforts are very much appreciated. Using concrete to "patch" up holes is exactly like painting a moustache on the Mona Lisa. Pure blasphemy.

Thank you Simon, great Video.

The holes for the beams which support the bridge having a deeper hole on one side! This had to be - so that a beam could be fitted across the with of the Grand Gallery. Without one of the holes being deeper - it would be impossible to fit the beams across. The evidence is very compelling- the best explanation I have ever seen!

@landspide

4 ай бұрын

Spot on... those cut-outs allow full width beams be set into the stone.

Being just 6 minutes in, a theory that I could point out for those niches going up the grand gallery, is to use them as a sort of early design of a Pawl on a winch or ratchet, in order to lock something in place while they hoisted it up to the Kings chamber.

@AncientArchitects

4 ай бұрын

Nice - I think Houdin is right that it was used to aid construction, but maybe there are other ways to interpret the evidence as to exactly how it functioned

@dragonmomma7145

4 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same thing as I was watching it. It could have been a bracing mechanism to keep it from sliding backwards or to shorten the distance required with each pull up.

@alanmckinnon6791

4 ай бұрын

I imagine some sort of brake would be a necessity for the case where pulling ropes broke or other failure. Hook and pawl is by far the easiest solution and just needs an axe to make it

@evbbjones7

4 ай бұрын

Totally agree, and it would be a relatively simple design to slot in and pull out easy. A shallow wedge with the back facing down the Gallery would do it.

@recoilrob324

4 ай бұрын

Right. The counterweight sliding down the ramp pulled large blocks up the other side of the pyramid, but then you have the counterweight at the bottom and it needs to go back to the top to pull another stone and you then have the same problem of how do you drag it back up there? Lever and ratchet system that would need long levers to deliver enough force need height to swing through each step until the ratchet engages to hold the weight so the levers can be lowered back down to take another 'bite' from the next notch. That way only a small number of men would be able to exert great force to raise the counterweight which then would do it's job and pull up another outer stone. That's pretty clever of them and from what I've seen....the best explanation for the details found in there today. Really they need to get into the upper 'void' and see what's there as it would likely be pristine just as it was left after construction and before millennia of people slowly defaced it. After Mamun got inside these generations of visitors could have stripped any and all wood in the Grand Gallery leaving nothing for us to find today. Fascinating stuff!!!

Great vid, Matt.

@AncientArchitects

4 ай бұрын

Thanks

Watched the documentary about the Architect’s internal ramp theory…Did they ever send anyone back up to “Bob’s corner”with an inspection camera to verify if it was hollow behind the block to verify the ramp? That would take an hour and it’s been like 5-10 years…

Superb video. These are the sort of questions we all want answers to.

Do we have any idea how the ropes of that length were made? The stretch on the ropes over that length given what they were hauling up would have been colossal.

@Jon6429

4 ай бұрын

The method of making rope well documented with lots of twisting & pulling and you need a really long, relatively flat, straight area to do it. It's possible the causeway from the Nile served a dual purpose besides a ramp for moving stone.

@MiguelSilva-vq6qe

3 ай бұрын

After finishing the master Design , in paper, With all the mathematics involved, the ropes were not a challenge

@chippiekorostchuk1498

3 ай бұрын

Diameter x diameter is your rope strength for fibre rope. Must be some massive ropes or alot of ropes to haul granite blocks up a shaft.

@alfredonski

3 ай бұрын

That was my first thought watching the videos is thinking what kind of rope they had back then that would withstand that kind of weight.

@R0jiv4

3 ай бұрын

Wouldn't the friction from that grove destroy the ropes? I can buy the rope thing if they could manucfacture ropes that could withstand that kind of weight IF they were airborne in the contraption but touching that grove on the top? Sceptic.

Wow this makes sense more than anything! With block and tackle and the right rigging this explains so much as to how they moved some of the biggest stones and I am sure it was pure genius at work

Thanks! Love your shows❤

My favorite video yet! Thanks so much!

Absolutely mind boggling!

The only problem with his idea is that it is overly complex. He sees the grand gallery as the counterweight system for dragging granite stones up a SECOND ramp on the other side of the pyramid. The Egyptians would not have wasted human effort to build a second, even steeper ramp that would have made the area at the top even smaller for the movement of heavy granite stones and required even more effort to fill in afterward. Rather, they almost certainly would have built just the ONE ramp needed to lift the heavy weight they had to lift, instead of having to pull the huge counterweight up to the top over and over. Especially, if they could leave MOST of the ramp, UNFILLED, because it would be concealed by the pyramid itself. The most likely explanation is that the grand gallery itself IS the primary ramp for 90% percent of the construction and that it is, today, incomplete. That is the only reason it would need to align with the rest of the ascending passage…which originally was a continuation of the grand gallery that was then filled in once the stones were raised. The two shelf’s with all the sockets are obviously the guide rails for a sledge, with the slots made to accept braking brackets. The thing is, leverage is the trading of distance for power. And for the heaviest stones of the pyramid each of those 27 sockets likely represented the distance of a single lifting effort. The simplest means would have been with ropes and pulleys rove to high advantage and by simply having a chain of men running continuously to the top of the level of the top of the grand gallery ramp, while the riggers reset the ropes, and then having a couple hundred men grab loops on the rope ends and baskets full of stone tailings from workmen fitting stones, and literally stepping off the smooth side of the pyramid and dragging the ropes down the height of the kings chamber floor that would pull the sledge up to the next braking notch and the blocks set there to hold it for re-setting the ropes. The number of men for each lift would be determined by the weight of the stone being lifted… and ordinary 2 ton and under filling stones could likely be lifted ten or 15 at a time, or rigged to use the same number of men, with fewer sheaves to perhaps pull the lighter sledge loads up two of three braking sockets at a throw. If you simply continue the line of the ascending passage and grand gallery to daylight, it ends up just enough above the ground to meet a small ramp that would take the stones over the lip of the plateau to the ramp that must have been built from the canal at which the granite was unloaded. The radiometric survey that revealed what appears to be a second grand gallery above the first makes this being the remnant of the primary ramp even more likely, as the grand gallery lifted stones to the height of the kings chamber, but they would have needed a second ramp to lift the relieving chamber and gable stones to the top of the kings chamber. So they would have lifted most of the granite to the level of the Kings chamber floor and started building the walls and surrounding filling stone from there while filling in and roofing over the grand gallery and staging the granite for higher up over where the base of the second gallery would be formed. The thing about this idea is that the grand gallery is usable from day one, if it is the remnant of the primary lifting ramp. That is, as the pyramid is being built, the vast majority of stone is run up the grand gallery, even while it is still open to the sky on top. As the pyramid rises around it, it gets refined to be prepared for the heavier stones to come. The corbeling might even have been added later, as the size of the stones to be lifted grew smaller. Imagine it open to the sky the entire way to the kings chamber. Eventually corbeled from the lower end, up. To support the base of the second gallery.

Brilliant as ever thank you for making them 😊👍🏻

Fantastic content as always Matt, thanks for taking the time to put this together.

Matt, your stuff is always spectacular. I've been a fan of JP Houdin fr years now. Thanks for another exceptional installment in the never ending mystery of The Great Pyramid. Best!

Excellent video, I love it. Thank you.

As a nobody with an opinion, the grand gallery ramp always looked like a rock elevator/slide system to me. If it was a stairway, there would be steps. The worn stone at the top of the ramp is where the rope slides. The holes in the walls look like a support structure anchor. The big void will turn out to be the other, as yet undiscovered elevator for the stones at the top of the pyramid.

@dnocturn84

4 ай бұрын

Ancient Egyptians rarely build incline tunnels or incline structures with steps. Most inclining tunnels or passages into pyramids, tombs and whatnot, were build without any steps. They either added them through additions (like wooden staircases), that were later removed (or lost) or never used them in the first place and instead just added a couple of wooden beams at some spots, to give people some kind of safe way for going in and out.

Excellent hypothesis. But... why is the gallery so high and why tapered inward. Is this simply to enhance stability of the structure within the pyramid or is there a further function that is being missed?

@the_naP

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, there sure is a lot of detail and precision on what is being proposed as work surfaces. Doesn't make sense to me, but I'm sitting here in a chair in San Diego. So who knows.

@SchoolforHackers

4 ай бұрын

Has me scratching my head too. But I don’t understand how the relieving chambers relieve anything, either. I suspect it has something to do with the semi-rubble fill?

@dnocturn84

4 ай бұрын

Tapered inwards: is believed to be a stabitlity feature. Straight walls at the maximum width, with a limestone covering the top, would not last with the weight of the stones on top of it. It would crack and collapse otherwise. Alternatively you could try to use harder stone, like granite and add stress releaving chambers on top of it (like what they did with the kings chamber). "But I don’t understand how the relieving chambers relieve anything" -> They remove weight from the inner area, which would otherwise create a force at the center of the chamber roof, at its weakest spot. And direct this force to the outer "walls", which are sitting on top of massive, non-void-below stone. But the relieving system is over-engineered in this case (for the kings chamber); only one or two relieving chambers would have been required. It is unknown, why they added a couple more. It is possible, that they didn't know exactly, how many are actually needed, or they got nervous, because one of the largest granite roof stones received a crack during construction phase. So maybe they were worried and added more relieving chambers, to "rescue" (or protect) the cracked stone. It is possible, that the grand gallery has relieving chambers on top of it too. And maybe that's what the scan pyramid project revealed. But we will find out soon.

@the_naP

4 ай бұрын

@@SchoolforHackers it's transferring force at an angle outwards, instead of straight down.

@SchoolforHackers

4 ай бұрын

@@the_naP As a way to lighten the load directly above the chambers? Makes sense.

The most interesting of all the rooms.

Great video! I loved it! Makes a lot of sense.

@AncientArchitects

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching

Wonderful great detailled work!!!!!

Great video! The Grand Gallery is absolutely the most fascinating structure in the pyramid. I too like Houdin's overall conjecture about the GG, but it doesn't fully address the function of the niches. They still seem functionally unnecessary. The groove seems inadequately explained, as well. There is so much left to discover!

Best video so far, I really enjoyed it. Congrats on the 1/2 million subs, your hard work has paid off 👍👍

@AncientArchitects

4 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏

@mtbalot

4 ай бұрын

@@AncientArchitects thank you for confidently updating your knowledge every video, learn every day takes an open mind and common sence 🙏

Imagine if the upper void still has everything intact from the counter weight system?!?! They could have pulled the wood from the grand gallery and used it above, and when they were done with it, just filled it all in.

Wow. Brilliant theory and NOW the GG makes sense! It was a construction tool, a machine! Awesome video! Thank you!

@jgzambel5261

3 ай бұрын

Francamente ... fantasioso e fabuloso de mais . Uma bonita simulação pra encher os olhos , mais na prática insustentável . A manipulação dos 3 plug's já é por si só um grande enigma . Na realidade a melhor explicação que já vi sobre isso é o vídeo abaixo : Simples prática e perfeitamente possível . Le principe K . I . S . S . appliqué a la construction de la pyramide de Khéops . Obrigado , sucesso sempre !!!

Ola , bom dia , Simplesmente fantástico vídeo , fascinante a riqueza de detalhes ! Muito importante evidenciar os detalhes , principalmente aquilo que foi "apagado" pelas restaurações ao longo do tempo , isso contribui para um possível esclarecimento sobre a grande pirâmide . Parabéns !!! Gostaria muito da sua opinião sobre este outro vídeo a construção da grande pirâmide : Le principe K . I . S . S . appliqué a la construction de la pyramide de Khéops . Ótimo trabalho ! Sucesso sempre !

Great work Matt! There is a major issue with this theory: if they had the force & knowledge to build the Grand Gallery, why didn't they just simply built the King's Chamber? Seemingly the Grand Gallery is a far larger and in many ways even more complicated structure than the King's Chamber on its own... how did they build the Grand Gallery then? If they were capable to pull up those huge granite blocks to build the Grand Gallery, it does not make any sense to use it to build an even smaller structure. Secondly: if they used it as a counterweight system (which there are strong evidences for) and it was a functional part of the Great Pyramid, why didn't they stop at the minimum height they needed to pull up blocks (let's say one metre high or similar). What sense does it make to build it up to almost 9 metres high. Would you build a massive granite "chute" for a counterweight system in 47 metres length to build a 5 x 10 metre size chamber with some relieving chambers on top? Has anyone ever calculated how many m3 of granite was used to build the Grand Gallery? Is it more than what they used for building the King's Chamber? I think so. I am not aware of the sizes of the Grand Gallery's granite blocks but seemingly they are huge and I think they are even larger than the ones they used for the King's Chamber... or they build only the lower part to use it to pull up granite blocks and then they thought: guys, why don't we finish our counterweight system in a crazy way: let's build a 9 metre tall very complicated ceiling! What a great idea... sorry, do not mean to be over sarcastic but it is just not a realistic thing to do. Would you build a 9 metre tall inclining ceiling structure for a no longer needed "chute"? They could have narrowed this with limestone blocks, forming a similar passage way than the others and case closed. I do not mean to be disrespectful but for me this simply does not seem to be logical.

@deefacebook9213

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for thinking!

@sidonaldson

4 ай бұрын

I considered this too. Why wasn't it filled in after it became defunct. My guess is that lowering stone is quite hard so it was just easier to cover it over, hence the narrowing. Only the biggest granite blocks are used to cover chambers as they are probably the hardest to cut, move and position.

@vladimira6999

4 ай бұрын

In general, I absolutely agree with you. But I should note that the Grand Gallery is entirely built of limestone, there is not a single granite block. And I also want to note that if a counterweight was used to lift the blocks, then after each lifting cycle it was also necessary to raise the counterweight to its original position. And that required a lot of power.

@andrewconstruction86

4 ай бұрын

You are right, my mistake, it is limestone. One reason more to bury it back / form a "normal" passage way.... It is just simply does not match the other structures in the pyramid and clearly no one would build such an enormous structure with no reason. If they were able to bring 50-70 tonnes granite blocks from Aswan, this last 100 m needed a complicated counterweight system to be built? We are fabricating theories because the Grand Gallery is THERE. I think where ever the Nile was 5000 years ago, it must have been an equally complicated job to bring the granite block from the harbour close to the pyramid but they did it, not to mention moving the blocks from the quarry to Giza plateau.... but we do not really care because there are no enigmatic buildings on the way....@@vladimira6999

@oupahens9219

4 ай бұрын

Yep, and one must not forget to compare that to the other pyramids. They all should have a similar feature. But in some the corbelled spaces are just horizontal, or not there.

I put this video in four different playlists. Amazing!

One of the very best videos I've seen on the Grand Gallery!

A ramp with a 6% incline leading up to the Pyramid? You have no idea how big that would be. It would be a construction on par with the great pyramid and there would be massive evidence.

@mw5360

4 ай бұрын

One of the visualisation videos shows a colossal ramp with vertical sides - how on earth would this retaining wall withstand the horizontal forces??

@dnocturn84

4 ай бұрын

Given that this ramp is not supposed to go all the way up, but only to a height of ca. 50 meters, such a ramp would be 478 meters long. This ramp would also go to the center of the pyramid, while the half the pyramid width would also cover this ramp. So the ramp would ultimately only be 363 meters long outside of the pyramid. Not impossible.

@TJ-W

3 ай бұрын

Must have been aliens. I’m joking. Calm down.

@jgzambel5261

3 ай бұрын

​@@dnocturn84Francamente ... fantasioso e fabuloso de mais . Uma bonita simulação pra encher os olhos , mais na prática insustentável . A manipulação dos 3 plug's já é por si só um grande enigma . Na realidade a melhor explicação que já vi sobre isso é o vídeo abaixo : Simples prática e perfeitamente possível . Le principe K . I . S . S . appliqué a la construction de la pyramide de Khéops . Obrigado , sucesso sempre !!!

@dnocturn84

3 ай бұрын

@@jgzambel5261 Oh, I'm not saying that the ramp-theory is actually true, nor am I supporting this idea. I am only saying, that a ramp like this isn't impossible and won't result in being too large, like the original comment claimed it to be. And I guess it is also important to mention, that I am refering to a ramp in addition to what is shown or proposed in the video. Older "ramp-only" theories (or some of them, at least) will actually result in extremly large ramps, which would be unrealistic indeed. Thank you!

Hi Matthew! Another amazing video! I like the theory presented by Houdin a few years ago and it seems to bring new concepts to the immense engineering challenge of building a huge structure with supposedly rudimentary tools. However, there is still a lot to be analyzed and considered. The second gallery is plausible because with just the large gallery that we know it would still be a colossal task as it would require suspending the immense slabs for the stress relief chambers. I would still like to find some study on how it was possible to suspend huge blocks of stone with the supposed ropes available at the time along with systems of pulleys, rollers, cranes... Hundreds of meters of extremely resistant cables would be needed...

Thank you! Sharing with everyone I know. Watching from the Philippines

Love the animations, really makes you think and see the enormity and engineering. Nothing fascinates me more than that pyramid

I think the friction alone on the wooden sleds would wear the sliders out too quickly.the friction alone would make it heat up expand and get stuck in the stone runners ,especially if the tolerances were tight. Was just a thought and awesome video 👍

@Dooguk

4 ай бұрын

What wood were the runners made from? Did the builders know nothing about friction? Could they have used some form of grease or even water to lubricate the runners? Did none of this cross your mind before you posted?

@mw5360

4 ай бұрын

@@DoogukAll right calm down.

@Dooguk

4 ай бұрын

@@mw5360 And you are?

@southernflatland

4 ай бұрын

If you watched the video like the rest of us, the hypothesis and demo videos demonstrate use of roller logs, not sliding at the bottom but rolling. The edge guides would slide though and need lubrication and occasional attention/maintenance, but wouldn't be supporting the bulk of the weight.

@DOCWHOK9

4 ай бұрын

I totally agree, those "score marks" are irrefutably formwork impressions!

Oh wow.... GREAT INTRO Matt!

@AncientArchitects

4 ай бұрын

Thank you 🙏

Ainda olhando esta simulação do trenó no interior da grande galeria ... Bom , e qual mecanismo foi utilizado para elevar as pedras que compõe a própria galeria ? Antes da instalação do sistema de contra peso ... O mecanismo não estaria presente em todas as etapas onde existem pedras de grande volume também . Sem contar que a grande galeria está abaixo da cobertura do teto da câmara do rei e as câmaras de alívio superiores . Não seria aplicável as pedras de cobertura da câmara da rainha ... Ótimo , não temos a resposta !!! Parabéns pelo vídeo , sucesso sempre !!!

I watched a documentary about the great Pyramid as a youngster and the great step was featured and it was suggested that ropes to haul the stones into the pyramid had worn out the great step into a smooth v shape and an old black and white photo of the great step with the wear was extremely convincing because it was so worn that it looked shiny smooth !

Amazing!

@AncientArchitects

4 ай бұрын

Enjoy

Has anyone built a physical )not digital) scale model of this to see how well it would work? Say 1/8 scale with blocks 1/8 weight with 1/8 human strength. Finding or making a grease that would be appropriate may be difficult.

@user-tq6hj8bh9y

4 ай бұрын

Khufu did... :P

@fennynough6962

4 ай бұрын

When a Steel cables snap on lifting a 3 TON block, do you really think a hemp rope is going to lift a 70 TON Megablock?

@user-tq6hj8bh9y

4 ай бұрын

@@fennynough6962depends on how high you are. o_O

@billywright7259

3 ай бұрын

@fennynough6962 hemp ropes are stronger/ more durable than steel cables, they have a higher breaking strength and less prone to snapping due to tension

@fennynough6962

3 ай бұрын

@@billywright7259 Sure! Must be some good herb your smoking there!

One of the best videos I about pyramid construction I've seen so far 👌 Grand gallery as some kind of inner ramp instead of a giant outdoor ramp, I estimate that not unlikely, makes sense. 😀 Thanks for sharing this interesting content 👍 My respect for the ancient architects (both!)

I just became a member and love everything you do!!

Danke. ❤

@AncientArchitects

4 ай бұрын

🙏

Houdin hypotheses is very complicated

@TJ-W

3 ай бұрын

So is the pyramid

I know it’s not important at all, but I noticed at 8:03, I have that same dehumidifier! Was a great purchase after my house flooded. Anyone ever needs one that brand makes them really well!

As coisas podem ser muito mais simples práticas e funcinais do que se pensa , não é necessário complicar ainda mais o mistério que envolve as pirâmides ... Video fantástico abaixo : L'énigme des Pyramides résolu par Hérodote Obrigado , sucesso sempre !!!

Jean Pierre Houdin work is simply fantastic. Definitely, the best explanation so far about the construction of the Great Pyramid. The documentary about his studies and the model he developed is unmissable.

very cool.

@AncientArchitects

4 ай бұрын

👍

Your content is what I look foward to when visiting this site.

Very fine visualisation of construction methods in the building!

great theory much to think about .

@AncientArchitects

4 ай бұрын

Indeed, cheers!

1:00 I think there could be a secret entrance, the top block looks different!

Sir the pyramid grand gallery is a true beauty but I have to say your channel is great as well, it really is. The way you explain things and the images and editing is very fine too. Thank you for your work, Sir.

Brilliant thoughts...great video thank you.

Shalom. I am so excited to watch this! Thank you!

@AncientArchitects

4 ай бұрын

Thanks

I wonder if anyone has ever flipped the sarcophagus from the king's chamber over to see if there's anything inscribed underneath?

@Pectoups

4 ай бұрын

Yes they did , it was written : made in China!

@jacquelineloveselvis

4 ай бұрын

​@@Pectoups 😂😂😂😂😂

@AndrasMihalyi

4 ай бұрын

yes, it says :"this side up"

@user-tq6hj8bh9y

4 ай бұрын

Yes, strangly was written ...."42"

@JC-XL

4 ай бұрын

It has a middle finger inscribed

Thank you for this fine video. Makes a lot of sense. A bit weird that Egyptian authorities are so protective of their ancient heritage - rightfully so - but maybe damaged one of the most important stones in the whole pyramid: the great step.

Very informative video!!!

HOW do we STILL NOT KNOW what’s in the Great Void?!? Sooooooo annoying.

@jus10lewissr

2 ай бұрын

Right? I've got a feeling we'll never know. That's not to say that Egypt's antiquities department won't eventually get inside somehow and figure it out, but I very highly doubt the general public ever will. I think a great sign that they've finally managed to get inside the void would be the complete shutdown of the Giza complex to the public. If people suddenly aren't allowed anywhere near it, something was clearly discovered.

@aceloco817

2 ай бұрын

I guess the Egyptian authorities don't allow anyone to do it in the first place? Idk how all that works. Who does one get permission from to try to discover what's in there?

@josephclark8386

Ай бұрын

That's where all the treasure is and the king sarcophagus down the hallway of the great void to the real Kings chamber

Great video Matt! I'm always stunned that we are talking about building that is at least 4,500 years old...

Since hearing the hypothesis from J-P Houdin, I’ve became a believer that the grand gallery was a ramp and shaft for some counter weight contraption. The slots for some sort of attachment, the scratch marks, etc made total sense and is a simple explanation. I just struggle to think such engineering was only to carry the granite stones for the kings chambers. This gallery could be the machinery to build the whole thing. Maybe not just one gallery but 2 or 3. Maybe others still hidden? With the counter weight and pulleys they could simply lifts the counter weight with few men, a long rope, then release the counter weight to lift heavy stones with a short rope. Makes total sense and it is very plausible

@johnthomas77704

4 ай бұрын

Then it does not need to be a pulley as today, wood logs would suffice. Just need to rope to have several loops and you divide the force. The you have the counter weights to pull stone without loops, just a straight rope.

@johnthomas77704

4 ай бұрын

The “braking” system could be used to block the counter weight the time they attache the stone block to a straight rope, then the would release the counter weight and just control its descent with the pulleys system. Amazing that the “professional” archeologists have not proposed a model like this, based on the evidence

@jgzambel5261

3 ай бұрын

Francamente ... fantasioso e fabuloso de mais . Uma bonita simulação pra encher os olhos , mais na prática insustentável . A manipulação dos 3 plug's já é por si só um grande enigma . Na realidade a melhor explicação que já vi sobre isso é o vídeo abaixo : Simples prática e perfeitamente possível . Le principe K . I . S . S . appliqué a la construction de la pyramide de Khéops . Obrigado , sucesso sempre !!!

Excellent video

If they had pulleys the grand gallery counter weight hypothetical equipment would make moving stones around much faster

@AncientArchitects

4 ай бұрын

Pulley-type objects have been found at Giza!

@dragonmomma7145

4 ай бұрын

@@AncientArchitectsI would love to hear more about these pulley mechanisms. I know that there are some hieroglyphics that kinda look like an overhead pulley system but I cannot remember where I saw it. I will look for it and share it with you when I find it. I have always wondered about it but never heard it mentioned anywhere.

@themoviesite

4 ай бұрын

@@AncientArchitects With axle, or just a round thing?

@ajsanything8489

4 ай бұрын

Did they have strong enough rope though

Must have been some strong rope.

@roberteriksson1629

3 ай бұрын

Jepp! To lift a 60 tonne block you would need a hemp rope of about 90 mm diameter or 3.5 inches. On a thirty degree slope that would be reduced to about 65 mm or 2.5 inches. Way to big for pulling by hand! Now imagine that 1000 tonne stone left in the quarry! Got go have a lot of ropes to pull that one up!!!!😊

A great mystery requires great detectives. Bravo and well done.

Excellent!! I have long agreed with Huddins explanation and hypothesis!

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hi, Matt! very interesting! and, so far, the best hypothesis i've heard. those ancient Egyptians were well versed in their construction methods....so this is not surprising, to me. sure would be cool if this can be confirmed in my life time! you keep making these vids and i'll keep watching......ok?!?! next time, dude

@lynnmitzy1643

4 ай бұрын

Hey floyd 👋🏼

@floydriebe4755

4 ай бұрын

@@lynnmitzy1643 hi, Lynn! been offline since 2. how are you?

Nice presentation! Thanks

Thankyou for sharing the true scale of grand gallery.