Dan Vs. Was originally picked up by Cartoon Network but the network insisted on ageing Dan down to be more relatable with kids. So the creators opted for the Hub instead

@sneakydeechey7210

2 ай бұрын

Doesn’t really make sense considering all the shows with adult protagonist on there

@KylerWulff

2 ай бұрын

​@@sneakydeechey7210Especially Regular Show.

@BBWahoo

2 ай бұрын

Source.

Total Drama (the first three seasons) also belongs in this category too.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Total Drama for sure

@Thot_Patrol_USA

2 ай бұрын

first season especially

Cartoon Network really did great with gray cartoons.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

I have to agree!

@superstarultra28

2 ай бұрын

Yeah. Sucks that they barely make 'em anymore, though. The only gray cartoon CN made in the last couple years was Infinity Train.

I was expecting Regular Show, but why was I not expecting Dan vs? That’s a prime example of a gray area cartoon and I don’t know how I didn’t have that in my head before watching this.

I’m surprised that nobody mentioned The Amazing World of Gumball as a prominent example. Despite being TV Y7, no wonder why I enjoyed that show way more at 14 than when I was 8 when it was rlly new on CN in 2011.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Gumball would make more sense if it was rated TV-G

@mustarddddd

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews imo TAWOG is a little extreme for a G rating

Y: For all children Y7: For older children over age of 7+ Y7 FV: With some violence that would may scare younger viewers G: for a general audience PG: made for parental guidance 14: For adults over age of 18+ MA: Just for adults only

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

TV-Y and TV-Y7 are kind of redundant when you could just use TV-G and TV-PG instead

@mblack713

2 ай бұрын

I think the TVY and TVY7 ratings were originally for the children's programming block. When the rating system came out, networks aired children's shows on weekday mornings, afternoons, and on Saturday mornings, but the networks don't have these programming blocks anymore, so the Y and Y7 ratings really are unnecessary now.

@DirgeHole-2866

Ай бұрын

TV-Y is useless since TV-G exists.

@thecoolme1697

Ай бұрын

TV-14 is for people 14 and older not 18 and older.

Clone High and Oblongs are good examples of this. Not for kids, but also not that adultish.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

The Oblongs is awesome and underrated

Regular Show paved the road for more broader and mature content for CN

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Yes, and Adventure Time too!

I wish networks like Nickelodeon wouldn’t play it so safe. Even shows that can get away with a lot like Spongebob suffer from Nick’s restrictions. Shows like Regular Show are so memorable for their somewhat edgy and daring comedy, if that cartoon was on Nick it would’ve been cancelled within 3 seasons guaranteed.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Nickelodeon gives basically any action/dark comedy show the axe, such as Invader Zim, Danny Phantom, and My Life as a Teenage Robot. However it wasn't revealed until much later Invader Zim was cancelled due to its high budget animation.

@Hucklefart_Dinklejartin

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews i remember there was this one joke in Invader Zim that still amazes me that they got away with it, this kid jumped out a window after being made fun of but immediately just flew up instead of down. Sort of an “almost” suicide joke. Then there’s Ren and Stimpy, they really pushed the line with that one but that show even despite its development hell and extremely crude humor for Nick somehow lasted like 5 seasons.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

@@Hucklefart_Dinklejartin Not just that, Ren and Stimpy got that disturbing adult party cartoon reboot on Spike TV.

@Hucklefart_Dinklejartin

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews oh yeah i forgot about that. That series is so much worse knowing John K’s story

@DTVMonsterNetwork

2 ай бұрын

​​@@ArtieRaccoonReviewsThey Could Of Milked "My Life As A Teenage Robot" To I Would Milk It To Make It Match American Dad's Popularity

Surprised there’s no mention of the Ren and Stimpy show, that show was crazy.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

I've noticed that many people have been mentioning it

Bob's Burgers seems to fit the standard because when Cartoon Network still controlled ACME Night they used Bob's Burgers as filler (however yes it was "purgatory")

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Ah, the days of CN purgatory

The Owl House and Adventure Time Fionna and Cake are examples

I miss the good ages of cartoons where you can air tv pg and 14 shows

Home Movies would fit in this I'd say.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Definitely agree, and maybe even The Oblongs

@Neverflam2

2 ай бұрын

Yea

@sawbonesquad4876

Ай бұрын

Very much so.I remember watching that one when I was 11.

Weird that Johnny Test is a Canadian cartoon but started as an American cartoon

I got scared for a sec when you said it aired on the hub. 😰

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Quite jarring, I know

I’m glad someone is making a video on this topic. These cartoons tend to be among my favorites

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Of course

Honestly, I really miss how "edgy" early 2010s CN was: Regular Show, Mad, Generator Rex, Robotomy, Sym-Bionic Titan, and even Secret Mountain Fort Awesome all pushed boundaries and nowadays CN doesn't really have much to offer in terms of teen/young adult shows. Yeah we had a Problem Solverz and Annoying Orange get thrown into the lineup, but overall CN was a lot more experimental back then, and I wish they could return to the tv-PG format. Though given the status of cable TV and CN as a whole, I doubt that will happen any time soon.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

They need to return to that standard

@sneakydeechey7210

2 ай бұрын

Unfortunately the most extreme of those didn’t last (robotomy secret mountain fort awesome) while the more toned down ones in comparison (adventure time regular show) did. Hopefully they go back to shows like that and they can last these days, maybe even a robotomy season 2 it’s a long shot but..,

@jorgem.9690

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviewsthey can’t, nobody will return to cable TV just for that, especially the fact that CN has not cared for fans for a long time.

Dan Vs. Is criminally underrated

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

I'm so glad its been getting the attention it deserves in recent years

@jakerandolph5053

2 ай бұрын

Fr

@teh_supar_hackr

2 ай бұрын

True! I keep hearing that the og creators of that show are wanting to do a new season or even reboot on something like Netflix, but had not gotten anywhere in the past few years.

Napoleon Dynamite (the short-lived 2012 cartoon based on the movie) and Homestar Runner (even though it wasn't on TV) also come to mind

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

I've never actually got the chance to see the Napoleon Dynamite cartoon, but I've seen the movie

I think The Legend of Korra could be a gray area cartoon, since it's way less kiddy than Avatar could be at times, and tackled topics kids wouldn't understand like terrorism, fascism, and showed electrocution and mercury poisoning.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

I can see how

@jaydenc367

2 ай бұрын

I mean even Avatar was pretty mature and had facism, terroisim (even morally grey terroism) and some pretty messed up things like blood bending and a face stealer in a "kid`s show".

@Bolbi145

2 ай бұрын

SpongeBob has electrocution so what

@lazerfrogstudios

2 ай бұрын

SpongeBob is more violent

@redlethe8679

2 ай бұрын

Last Airbender tackled rough subjects, but in better ways...

Megas XLR is a good example because it was put in the cartoon network box but was aired before adult swim existed

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Sadly it was written off because the CEO at the time "didn't get it"

Here’s an idea for a show like these! A man gets a job as a courtesy clerk (someone who collects the shopping carts helps the customers etc!) And disturbing or messed up things happen as our main hero tries to stop the cause to other customers!

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

I've actually had an idea about making a cartoon based on one of my clumsy coworkers

@calebpribyl5152

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews Yeah except my idea sounds like it would be on Cartoon Network for a few episodes and then be SHOVED to adult swim for the most part!

It's seems a lot of the Fox Amidom falls in this category, like Simpsons and Bob’s Burgers. Even their spin-offs like Futurama and Central Park are pretty similar shows as well to their previous counterparts.

@andrewclark3330

2 ай бұрын

i was able to watch The Simpsons as a kid as it wasn't that risque or edgy compared to Family Guy or South Park, but The Simpsons still has it's moments especially in the Movie and the later seasons

@JuanGomez-ke5py

2 ай бұрын

What do you mean the Thompson's

Most of TV-PG cartoons/anime fall in that area, like Total Drama, The Clone Wars, MAD, The Looney Tunes Show, The Simpsons, Futurama, Dr. Stone, Bob's Burgers, Black Clover, Dragon Ball, Animaniacs, Naruto and Infinity Train.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Basically every TV-PG show in existence

I'm so glad this video exists! I feel like there should be more shows like this (especially with the enigma that was Dan VS) where they're in this "grey-area." They end up being pretty funny for a multitude of reasons, especially if they're on a kids network.

It’s genuinely heartbreaking that Dan Vs was cut short in 2013 after three seasons. I mean, it was too early for that show to be cancelled. I really hope the show gets revived one day, even the creator wants it to come back, but it seems unlikely right now ☹️

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

If any show deserves a reboot, it's Dan Vs!

I think CN gives shows PG ratings so they don't have to censor the writers as much. Tiny Toons Looniversity is PG. The classic CN shows on Checkered Past are PG. I think that is a legal thing so that they can show more adult advertisements.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Its a clever loophole and I'm glad they took advantage of it to create better shows

Also rated G is extinct now. Every non baby show cartoon is PG now

Dan Vs. is a show that I yet to find anyone who has ever heard of it. End up having to explain the concept and then what exactly The Hub was, and at that point they almost always think I am making it up.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Nobody believes me either lol, they just shrug it off or say "oh?"

Adult Swim needs to be its own channel by now.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

Ай бұрын

It's been proven Adult Swim is better off as its own channel, so why not

@rockoorbe2002

Ай бұрын

It's not a bad idea except for the part where the have to find good content. Otherwise I would be concerned thar it would turn into an eternal Futurama marathon

I'd call Regular Show a kids' show and Daria an adult show. Sure, Regular Show used the word "pissed", but Courage the Cowardly Dog used "damn" and "hell", which are around as "bad".

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Regular Show is more or so a teens show rather than a kids show

@thelibyanplzcomeback

2 ай бұрын

​@@ArtieRaccoonReviews Yeah, I think it appeals to teens and young adults the most.

Another grey-area cartoon would probably be Robotony (Robotomy?) which is a pretty obscure CN show from the 2010s that no one seems to remember except me. It was pretty decent too from what I remember.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Definitely a good example!

I think The Simpsons, while is an adult show like King Of The Hill, should still be mentioned here. It was aimed at families so much at the time that they even marketed it to kids and sold toys/games, and yet it was considered very taboo. Simpsons T-shirts were banned in some schools. A very similar thing happened with Ren and Stimpy. Also I don't think Dan Vs couldn't be pitched on to CN because of the CN Real era. Adult Swim is still Cartoon Network. It sounds like they probably wouldn't have wanted the show at all. Also, the fact that Checkered Past is on Adult Swim, Nick Rewind was a thing on Teen Nick, and episodes like Mid-Life Crustacean are now banned episodes, shows to me that the standards for what's acceptable on children's entertainment has drastically changed. We're always seeing posts on social media about how much innuendo there was in 90s/00s/early 2010s cartoon shows and movies. Michael Ouweleen, the current president of CN, said he wants the channel to be more of an "animation network" than a "kid network". It wasn't really meant exclusively for kids to begin with tbh.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

The standards of what is acceptable on children's television changing is quite interesting, you should check out my "TV Ratings are Irrelevant" video where I talk about this exact topic

My favorite gray area cartoons are Ren & Stimpy, pre-code Betty Boop, and early Regular Show.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

Ай бұрын

I love early Regular Show

SpongeBob should belong in this category because of the inappropriate grotesque visual gags and his inappropriate behavior. I don’t understand how SpongeBob is safe for kids. He shouldn’t be, not with his inappropriate humor.

New subscriber here! Speaking of The N, one example of a "gray area" cartoon I must bring up is "O'Grady", produced by the same folks as "Home Movies", which itself may also fall under this category. Like "Daria", "O'Grady" is aimed more at audiences who are of the same adolescent age group as the main protagonists. It's a very underrated sitcom that combines high school life struggles with surreal phenomenons, and I recommend seeking it out! Another underrated gray area show I'd like to bring is a more recent one: "Young Love" on HBO Max. I honestly thought it would be more family-friendly like the original "Hair Love" short film it's based on, and while it IS safe for family viewing, it contains mild swears and references to sex & drugs. "Young Love" is a very good, chilled slice-of-life cartoon that is also worth checking out. I have no idea why it's rarely talked on social media.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

12 күн бұрын

Also Home Movies could be considered a "gray area" cartoon! It was tame enough for Cartoon Network UK to air

@NoParkingBerry

11 күн бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews Oh yeah, I forgot about that!

Dan Vs always felt like it wanted to be edgy but it wasn’t allowed to be. Imagine what they could have done if it was on adult swim: Dan Vs Disney, Dan Vs Scientology, Dan Vs Obama, etc.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Honestly it felt more clever when it was grounded to a family friendly network, otherwise it might've gone the shock humor route. I could see Dan Vs taking the satirizing current events route, however it would be dated by the time production finished so they would need to choose long-term topics.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

If they ever make a Dan Vs revival, they need to definitely make a "Dan Vs The Network" episode where Dan's favorite show is quietly cancelled, so he goes to the network headquarters to dish out revenge! It will be a parody of how Dan Vs was cancelled.

@Bolbi145

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews I disagree, look at South Park, they have very few limits and they still manage to do all kinds of amazing storylines.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

That's because South Park's production takes a week meanwhile traditional animation takes 6-9 months to finish. I'm not sure how long flash animation takes though.

@Bolbi145

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews That has little to do with time, uncreative people will be uncreative no matter what freedom or restrictions they have, creative people will use their freedom to boost their creativity.

I think the looney tunes show kinda fits into this demographic. Did not care for the show as a kid and didn’t get a lot of the jokes. Now that I’m older though, it’s one of my favorites

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Its been confirmed that Looney Tunes was originally intended for adults, however the ghetto age of animation in the 60's-80's began the stereotype that all cartoons are for kids.

Good video. Maybe Dan Vs could be on FXX if it was greenlit in 2021.

If only there were some sort of age BETWEEN child and adult -- like some sort of, teenage years perhaps? Not only that, "kids" shows have different ranges. A ten-twelve year old would be very bored by a show aimed at 2-4 year olds. Also sometimes shows can have adult themes without gratuitous swearing, violence, or sex scenes.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

I would call shows aimed at 2-4 year olds "preschool shows", meanwhile your standard TV-Y7 stuff like SpongeBob and Kids Next Door would be normal "kids shows".

@themememaster6775

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviewsI wouldn’t really call SpongeBob a ”kid’s show”, because there’s nothing in it that makes it exclusively for kids, everyone can enjoy it. (And that also goes for a lot of similar shows)

0:00 I gotta say before watching this video that sound intro really has an epic vibe! I sped it up and slowed it down in audacity and even then it sounds dope! It's like a VHS tape running on a race car on stick shift!

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

It is actually Weatherscan Track 22 starting at 1:00, but with reverse tapestop effect from WaveEditor

@MrLyosea

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews Wow very interesting and nice edit to it ya did!

I know a bunch of Gray Area Web Cartoons at the top of my head 1. Spooky Month 2. Murder Drones 3. The Amazing Digital Circus 4. Happy Tree Friends (Possible) 5. Modern C&H (2020 - Present) (Way More Tamer Than Old C&H) 6. Alphabet Lore (Possible) 7. BFDI (Possible) 8. Almost Every Object Show 9. The Stockholms 10. Painquin

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

I wouldn't say that about Happy Tree Friends, it has a slaughtering amount of gore

@YALLAHELLA-pk1gh

2 ай бұрын

Yes these are great examples

@KylerWulff

2 ай бұрын

Digital Circus and Murder Drones definitely fit that category.

@kaysrandomchannel4618

2 ай бұрын

Murder Drones is a perfect example for a gray area cartoon.

@IMGOATXD

2 ай бұрын

what about annoying orange? It's not considered a cartoon but it's a web series

tv-pg is better then tv-14.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Allows for more creativity and better jokes rather than a competition to see what show can be the most gross and shocking.

@ryanmatthews3609

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews definitely.

Already know that people say Total Drama can fit. It’s predecessor show, 6Teen can as well. I think Bob’s Burgers can fit there too. But anyways they’re all mature cartoons that have adult things but compared to something like South Park or Family Guy, they don’t go as far as they do and are aimed like at a tween to teen age range.

Could Gumball be apart of these “Gray area” in it’s later seasons? I know that Gumball is rated TV-Y7 FV in the U.S. but in most countries the show has a TV-PG rating or an equivalent to one. Some reasons why I feel this way is because of some the episodes have political or social commentary that younger viewers may not fully understand. Anther reason why are because of the more short of in your face adult jokes, I remember watching the choices when I was younger and not understanding why Nicole and Richard in the doctors office had this “ oh no” expression and then showing them getting married but when I got older I understood that the reason why they acted that way was because they had sex and conceived gumball before they got married. In the episode The Cringe, there is this scene/joke where Gumball was going to give HotDog Guy “the talk”, and I can only imagine the amount of young children that probably asked their parents what Gumball was talking about. But Gumball with its humor feels like it’s aiming at a younger demographic.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

That's a very good explanation!

There were other shows like Animaniacs and other 90s cartoons that were a little edgy. By today's standards they would be in the grey area as well.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Same with the Checkered Past shows, however during their initial runs they were considered kids shows

@DirgeHole-2866

Ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews Any CN show that moved to AS fit.

Yeah this was a great video man. Another one I would mention is Infinity Train, especially the later seasons

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

I almost forgot to mention Infinity Train and Mao Mao! Also you're gonna like my next video

One cartoon I'd say falls in the grey area would be Fred's Head (or Blaise le blasé as it's known in its original French), an obscure French-Canadian cartoon that aired on Teletoon which was aimed specifically for teenagers, as it had references to alcohol, cheating, minor swearing, etc. It didn't last any longer than a single season (which is a shame as I found it pretty funny and relatable).

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

14 күн бұрын

I looked it up and the art style reminds me of Invader Zim

Bob burgers should be here

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Definitely

I think the golden of animation deserves a special mention as the "original" grey area cartoons, because back then, cartoons were primarily aimed towards the adult audience in the movie theater to give them a brief laugh before their movie begins, however, due to the Hays Code, virtually *_all_* media at the time had to be family friendly whether they liked it or not. One of the most well known examples of the Hays Code's effect on media at the time can be seen with the Betty Boop cartoons, which were already much tamer than any modern "adult" cartoon, and yet they still had to be toned down by about 1935, due to the Hays Code starting to take effect by that point.

I already mentioned this in a reply to a comment but I believe that Don’t Hug Me I’m Scared also fits into the grey area as well. I know it isn’t a cartoon but some episodes have animated parts. For example episode 4 of the tv series has a large segment of it being animated.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

I wonder when the TV series will air in the US

@thecoolme1697

Ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviewsIt has been re uploaded to KZread by fans but I don’t think it is going to air in the US.

@thecoolme1697

Ай бұрын

If it does air in the US maybe they will put it on adult swim. I am pretty sure it did well on Channel 4 in the UK. Hopefully they make another season.

I’m still so sad Sit Down Shut Up didn’t last! I loved that show so much and felt it was so underrated and funny.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Definitely better than Allen Gregory

King of the hill fits this genre to trough it was made for grown ups but can be watch by kids

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

Ай бұрын

It's pretty tame and acceptable for kids to watch. The only bad language they use is "damn", "ass", and "hell". Besides most parents swear around their kids anyways, at least how I was raised lol

3:17 the hub was known for cancelling a lot of shows early, the 2 i know of are G.I. Joe Renegades which had 1 Season and ended on a cliffhanger, and of course the legendary Aquabats Supershow which was also cancelled

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

Ай бұрын

I miss The Hub

There's a cartoon from finland called "hullu hullumpi yläaste" (hhy), that fits this description. it's targeted to a (younger) teenage demographic and it has swearing and topics inaproppriate for younger kids. Despite this it has a 7+ rating instead of a 12+ rating for some reason

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

In different countries, the social norms and what is deemed acceptable can be very different compared to North America. Culture shock!

gravity falls fits into this category too

Billy&Mandy, SpongeBob, Simpsons, Gravity Falls, svtfoe, tawog all also fit in the grey area category?

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Billy and Mandy was originally intended for kids when it was still running, but now is for older audiences due to changing standards and social norms

@IMGOATXD

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews what about the other things?

@DirgeHole-2866

Ай бұрын

Grim & Evil as a whole fits.

I call these teenager cartoons and as a teenager I like them.

It's great to see you back 😊

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Thank you

@ryanwilkins2233

2 ай бұрын

​@@ArtieRaccoonReviewsby the way when's other characters like space ghosts Brak and zorak going to hit public domain or Droopy or Timon and pumbaa?

There was a cartoon called chilly beach which i enjoyed then there was a set of animated seasons of Corner Gas and they had Ryan Reynolds on for the finale. They also did an animated series of trailer park boys but strictly for adults.

I argue that Regular Show and Dan Vs are for kids, just not young ones, like the 10-12 age range.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Ehhh

@Bolbi145

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews shows like Family Guy, or Beavis and Butthead are for teens if you ask me, TV-14 stuff

*Reads title* I never thought of it like that

Honestly, the way some cartoons have grey areas same goes for video game. For instance, ratchet and clank, jak and daxter, sly cooper, oddworld, and psychonauts all have an art design that seems to want to appeal to kids but have some mature elements meant for teenagers or older adults.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

Ай бұрын

Pretty much every form of media

Most CN shows that moved to AS such as SGC2C, Courage, I Am Weasel & Ed Boys. They all fit.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

Ай бұрын

I definitely agree

I feel like a lot of anime and indie animations fit in this category, mostly due to values dissonance and a few other factors

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Exactly, they don't have to fit a certain demographic or a silly network standard

@DUXLOL

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews And also values dissonance because Japan has different standards for kids shows (e.g. Dragon Ball having blood, Nichijou having mild innuendo and guns, one episode of Pokemon having guns, etc.)

Daria isn't for adults?

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Well yes, but technically maybe. It was more geared for teenagers in young adults when it first came out, but today is more relatable to the adults who grew up watching it

Rocko’s Modern Life also perfectly fits this category

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Of course

I think Daria (the best tv show ever) was aimed at people who were the people in high school who just didn't care about "status" and wanted to get throuh it regardless of age. These are the individuals who tossed high school reunion invitations in the recycle bin like myself.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

Ай бұрын

You summed it up perfectly

Is it wrong to think Scott Pilgrim Takes Off is the newest example of this? Or maybe the comics just give me that vibe.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

I've never heard of that, what is it about?

@SilverShine-tr5kr

2 ай бұрын

Then I wonder why it has a TV-MA rating on Netflix

@periflores1002

2 ай бұрын

@@SilverShine-tr5kr Because one character swears a lot- but they’re bleeped :/

@periflores1002

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews it’s based on a comic book series that became a cult hit movie

@zoedevvv

2 ай бұрын

kinda but i feel like its a bit much in some episodes to be gray area

i didn't know there was a word for shows like these but it's super interesting

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, that's because I had to make it up myself

@prageruwu69

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews makes sense

Dan Vs wasn’t a merchandised themed show so it’s pretty great just like regular show. Also Dauria is a pretty solid dramedy with slice of life spin-off of Beavis and Butthead.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

I wonder what Daria would've been like if Mike Judge was actually been involved. He was busy working on King of the Hill at the time

If we could anime there are so many that could fall into the gray area. Like, K-on

If you take the sex jokes, SA, and swearing out; Hazbin Hotel fits perfectly into this gray area.

@maloo897

2 ай бұрын

Taking out that much would make It a diferent show so maybe not, Angel Dust as he is could only be done in a adult show

robotomy got cancelled nearly instantly due to being in this gray area

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

No international Cartoon Networks wanted to air the series either, which resulted it in being cancelled

@jsmith3946

Ай бұрын

I am pretty sure it got canned because no one watch the stupid thing and not because it was a grey area cartoon

@jknifgijdfui

Ай бұрын

@@jsmith3946 yea nobody watched it because it was a gray area cartoon keep up

The Amazing World of Gumball is also a gray area cartoon, in my opinion. I prefer and love gray area cartoons because they can still be relatable with adult humor without being irreverent and raunchy, which is not something I like.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

Ай бұрын

Gumball is basically The Simpsons but for kids

Watched a lot of these growing up.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Same here

I think these shows are typically divided into kids and adults marketing based on when most viewers remember watching them and what KZread classifies uploads as. For example Regular Show fits the kids category, but the latter two are featured for adults more often

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

There was actually a Happy Tree Friends video that had comments disabled because COPPA flagged it as "for kids"

@thebatterymill

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews This is if such videos are consistently marked as MFK and are such on their official channel

Teenagers than. That's the only area left between kids and adults.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

Ай бұрын

Pretty much

Dairia aired on MTV which was gearing towalds more adults since its a spin off of beavis and butthead and when it came to their animated shows at the time such as the brothers grunt and the head they were more Experimental cartoons meant to be more for adults and in my opinion i don t think dan vs wouldnt have aired on cartoon network because it centered arould fully grown adults and theirs jokes such as the irs line that dan saids in the first episode which kids wouldnt understand compared to regular show where it starts fully grown animals but does have swearing in the first and second season so idk. Im still going to subscribe to your channel because youre an underrated channel.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Thank you for your comment! I don't want to spoil too much, but in my next big video it will partially follow up on about what you said about MTV and how it fell from grace despite defining cable in its early years.

@helpfulplaylists3933

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews Thats really cool. I can t wait to see when it comes out.

it may be because I'm currently in that gray area, it may be that it's because it's forced to be restictive, leading to creativity while still being aloud to go to certain extreme, but that gray area is some of the best TV to ever come out

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

That's my point!

teenagers

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

And young adults!

Tiny Toon Adventures was often billed as a children's show, but some of the jokes were aimed more at the adults. Animaniacs was often touted as a children's show, but MOST of the jokes were aimed at adults. Same thing with Pinky and the Brain and Freakazoid! My sister and I were Daria fans, back in the day. It's the only cartoon on this list that I recognized. Daria was opinionated about EVERYTHING! Don't you miss the 90s?!

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

You don't recognize Regular Show? It was one of the most popular cartoons of the 2010's. Also I miss the 90's even though I was born in the early 2000's

@jsmith3946

Ай бұрын

touted it was a kids show it aired on fox KIDS and later on the WB Saturday morning cartoon block

Me and my brother got in trouble for watching Dan vs😂😂

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Really? That's so dumb lol

you wanna know something? i have a TV show idea that i'm going to send to dreamworks sometime this year, this TV show is not going to air on my TV station as that's just for reruns. this TV show would be that kind of show.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

You definitely should make a TV show, go for it

Awesome video man 😎!

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@JJUniverseChannel

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews You’re welcome man 😃!

Daria and KOTH kinda always felt like nice but complicated family or TGIF shows.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Agreed

I kind of think Simpsons is a grey area cartoon. Technically flinstones were the first “adult cartoon” but the Simpsons were the first to start the trend of “adult cartoons”. Beavis and butthead were the first to bring about shock humor in cartoons which is why we have shows like South Park, family guy and Rick and Morty. Also while ren and stimpy came out around the time beavis and butthead came out and carries the shock value genre it was on Nickelodeon which is a kids network. So ren and stimpy is a good grey area cartoon.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

I definitely agree with you there

@jsmith3946

Ай бұрын

Beavis and butt head was not the first to bring shock humor into cartoons Simpsons was doing it way before B and B was and there was also shows and there where 70 cartoon movies like Fritz the cat and Down and dirty duck for example and the Simpsons was never adult cartoon and never has been it was always considers a Family sitcom and still is consider one to this day do you have any idea what you are talking about

I think Back at the Barnyard could qualify

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

Ай бұрын

Its basically a kids version of Family Guy humor

I love these kind of cartoons

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Same here!

The greatness of Dan ended when the hub turned into the My little pony channel! I wish he was real to get revenge on the channel sellers!

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Dan Vs The Network

@InvasionAnimation

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews Yes! That would be epic!

@sneakydeechey7210

2 ай бұрын

@@InvasionAnimationhub was the mlp channel since it’s inceptiton. Even discovery family was for a while.

@InvasionAnimation

2 ай бұрын

@@sneakydeechey7210 True. but it felt so much more excessive when they ended the hub.

I miss this area

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Same here

Dan VS was the best. We need more of this kind of stuff, man, it is disappearing. I was an edgy little kid and I know it is far from a dying breed. They need entertainment too

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Dan Vs is extremely underrated. Even though it's barely heard of, I still consider it one of the best 2010's cartoons, way better than childish MLP.

@sbemail

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews MLP is good for what it is... but sometimes you're just a dan in a world full of ponies... just not the same..................

I feel like Animaniacs would work.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Definitely

there's batman the animated series and 90''s kids shows that pioneer it first and they did way before cartoon network regular show, and adventure time did.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

They did it at first in the 90's with Batman and Daria, but they were far and few between and didn't become a reoccurring trend until the 2010's.

@ryanmatthews3609

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews and there were other 90's kids shows that were rated tv-pg as well

@ryanmatthews3609

2 ай бұрын

@@ArtieRaccoonReviews and the tick.

cartoons that curse all the time don't quite feel adult to me

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

In fact it feels very juvenile

Still not clear on where Centaurworld lies, it has Adult Cartoon vibes written all over it, but so do a lot of shows these days that are obstensively "kids" cartoons. It was made for animation nerds first and foremost though, and I kinda feel like we're gonna see its influence in the animation scene some subtle way down the line. And as an aside on video production, I suggest a bit more emphasis on the transition from one subject to the other. Maybe a beat to breathe, a bit more emphasis on the title of the next show, etc. Or conversely, go a bit more into the conversational vibe. This is the first video of yours I've seen, but it feels like you could go either way, depending on preference- as a more presentation oriented channel, or as a more discussion/essay type. But in this video, the idea of whether or not it was a list video felt a little less prioritized. Which is fine for me- I watched the whole thing after all, but you know how the internet is with lists. Also, cute avatar. Lean into the aesthetic.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for the constructive criticism, it's actually helpful how you explained it

Always thought johnny bravo was a weird show. It definitely fits here like who was it even for??

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Raises many questions...

Does my adventures with Superman count as a gray area cartoon? it feels a little light-hearted for an adult swim program but I don't think it kind of deserves to be on Adult Swim

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Of course

Honestly, I really miss Dan vs: the show had so many stories to be told and nowadays the show has been canceled from the hub for over 10 years. Yeah sure the show is underrated and nobody really talks about it lately, but overall Dan vs is alot more edgy and experimental for a show that actually aired on the same network as mlp, and I wish it could continue one day. I would expect freeform but though given how freeform is as a whole with the majority of shows they air on that channel I doubt that they will be interested in picking up Dan vs. And I don't even know if TBS as a channel would do a better job at handling dan vs if they picked it up.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

If they make a reboot of Dan Vs, the ideas for episodes I have would be Dan Vs The Network, The Internet Troll, and Karen.

@ArtieRaccoonReviews

2 ай бұрын

Also if they brought it back, the networks I would expect to pick it up would either be FXX or Adult Swim. Freeform is kind of an "anything goes" sort of channel and wouldn't work, MTV has nothing to do with animation these days, Comedy Central would treat it horrendously as we saw with the Beavis and Butthead revival and Digman, TBS doesn't do animation anymore since 2021, and Syfy also abandoned animation in 2021.