Grand Seiko SBGK017 Watch: A Turning Point For The Brand & How They Beat The Swiss
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In today's hands on watch review, I begin my search for the ultimate Grand Seiko as I consider adding one to my collection. Where better to start than with a model that is completely unique and unlike any Grand Seiko before it, and quite possibly an indicator of a new direction for the brand-the Grand Seiko Nanbu tekki dial from the Elegance collection (ref. SBGK017). We'll take a look at the brand's history, design evolution, and technical innovation to fully understand not only the significance of this particular watch, but also why they make some of the best luxury watches in the world, how they beat the Swiss at their own game, and how they will continue to do so. Join me for another free, independent, and in-depth review including positives and negatives of one of the most important Grand Seiko watches that has gone largely overlooked in mainstream watch enthusiast circles. What do you think about the Grand Seiko Nanbu tekki dial from the Elegance Collection? Please share in the comments!
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You have without a doubt the absolute best intros in the watch community!! Your videos are the standard by which all other watch videos are evaluated. Your reviews are concise, honest, and independent of any outside influences. I always feel like I can trust your assessments of the watches reviewed. Approximately half of the watches in my very modest collection are the direct result of your videos. To say “thank you” seems somehow inadequate but the fact remains that I am truly grateful for your channel and all of the effort you put into every single video. Well done!🥃
@AlexRodriguez-mi1sn
Жыл бұрын
Class personified
If I can ever afford a luxury watch, Grand Seiko would be my first acquisition. No doubt. Thank you as always for the thorough review and history lesson.
@cappy2282
Жыл бұрын
Ya I agree. I got a Seiko cocktail 🍸 but if I ever had the privilege of spending big money, I'd go straight to the Grand Seikos
@dr.162
Жыл бұрын
i hope you guys can afford one soon 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
@sneakyscorpia
Жыл бұрын
I'm working towards either an "entry" Grand Seiko quartz or a nice Longines at a similar price for my first and only "luxury" watch - going to take a couple of years!
@Explorer40mm
Жыл бұрын
Good call, just make sure to never buy new. Generally GS can be found at about half of retail on the secondary market. Deals to be had everywhere.
@sneakyscorpia
Жыл бұрын
@@Explorer40mm Thanks for the advice
Obviously GS put a great deal of thought into this watch. And the execution, as always with GS, is flawless. Well done TGV!
@threethrushes
Жыл бұрын
Absolutely flawless.
@TheOwlGuy777
Жыл бұрын
Well, except for the no lume, non tapered bracelet, no micro adjustment and 30m WR all for ten grand.
I'm not sure anyone can compete when these guys are at their best
Was fortunate enough to visit the Seiko museum in Ginza recently. It was a great experience that showcased Seiko’s testament to precision and quality.
Flies under the Radar.. Love it!
As always, informative, entertaining, and inspiring. That case shape alone is enough to sell the watch, but that dial is a treat. Thank you for such a top-notch presentation! All the best-
Their fit and finish is quite simply amazing.
I'm a pavlovian lad, I see a glimpse of Kurosawa's Ran and automatically press the like button...
Always appreciate the effort you put into your videos TGV.
As always, thank you for the time and effort of each video TGV!
Appreciate your circumspect approach to detailing your watches. It places the watch within its proper context and allows the viewer to better understand not only the “what” but the “why” as well. 🤓
Tristano, you've outdone yourself! This is simply an amazing video! You've turned a premiere watch brand into a historical narrative on Japanese watch culture! Even the intro of this video and the classical piece was exceptional. Well done!!! Bis....bis! Encore!
Thank you for the history lesson. Don't know what i love most, your style to give the viewer knowledge or this beautiful watch!
A fair, wel made, good mix of history and present, review. You are a great storyteller, please keep up the good work.
Great intro, fantastic cinematics, informative narration, and a really beautiful watch. Well done, TGV!
@theurbangentry
Жыл бұрын
Thank you fratello! I hope all is well, my best to you this memorial weekend. O&U! TGV
Seeing Sir Roger Moore showing off the Hamilton Quartz, and a Rolex sub, in the same film, 1973s Live and Let die..evidence the early quartz technology was making the main stage, and yes changed the world of watchmaking. Great vid as always TGV. ❤
@lonewolfemcquade8133
Жыл бұрын
But then alot people started to get bored with all the digital stuff and went back to mechanical watches
A wonderful review of a beautiful watch. Fantastic editing work, as usual. Thank you for this!!!!
Love to see these indepth reviews again!
Great review! I'm so happy that Moyer are so good to you, I hope that never stops.
This watch has to be seen firsthand to be understood. The dial is unbelievable. I tried one on several months ago and it absolutely blew my mind. The finishing is out of this world on this one, a cut above even Grand Seiko's usual high bar. While the bracelet isn't perfect - no micro adjust, no taper, lug width - it is a wonder on the wrist!
Finally a truly classic looking case from Grand Seiko, beautiful watch.
Fantastic intro, insightful context, great review... and I love the return to the white glove analysis. (I also miss the yellow notepaper duels). GS certainly does refinement though I'm not sold on this particular dial. Lovely piece nonetheless.
Fabulous video! I love the dial on the SBGK017 and that texture is incredible. I have noticed on GS watches with the newer or updated movements of the last couple of years they are quite pricey but I guess they are trying to recoup development costs. It makes my SBGE285 look quite economical in comparison (Spring Drive and titanium) but the movement in my watch does date back to 2006 so is a quite mature movement.
Another magnificently done video! While this watch is well beyond what I’m willing to spend, it is very striking, particularly for a GS. What struck me besides that beautiful dial is the way the case curves upward into the crystal and the curve continues. It looks like all of one design, very much like a streamlined car. Exquisitely done.
Great video, like always!!! Thank you TGV 🙏
Such a well researched and presented review.
super awesome video, as always, congrats Tristano and CIAO!
Hi TGV Quite stunning. And finally GS placed the power reserve in the right spot😊 Keep up the good work👍
Only about two minutes in but have to comment already ... Superb editing TGV! Beautiful work.
Excellent video per usual TGV. I'm saving for a SBGN027 currently and this video bumped up my excitement.
Great presentation and most excellent history lesson. Thank you TGV. 🥃🥃🥃
Absolutely beautiful. It's lovely to see a different case shape from GS. It would be interesting to see a spring drive in that case shape. I agree with you about the bracelet. One that tapers does look more elegant. One that doesn't makes the watch feel chunky and bigger somehow. Of course the other movement that defines Grand seiko for me is the hi-beat. This can trace its origins back to the Swiss beating calibre 45.
I do love your in-depth reviews 👊
Professor TGV, that was a masterclass on GS. Thank you.
Every time your intro is amazing!
Another great video - love the history of the brand! Thanks
Another lovely Grand Seiko. I could see wearing this for my daily watch.
Excellent review of the Grand Seiko. Paused the video to read and learn a good bit about the Edo shogunate and Meiji Restoration; also made note of the book, "The Films of Akira Kurosawa." Beyond the wonderful timepiece reviews this channel has long been something of a finishing school for us harried and slightly rough-hewn casual viewers.
Always love your content🧡
Beautiful watch. Loved that bespoke video introduction 👌👌👌 I went to my AD just this week. Got to see the Rikka hands on for the first time, after admiring from an online distance. It didn’t disappoint! However, I do think if I'm going to add a GS to the collection it would be almost criminal to not have one of those amazing Blossom dials 🥰
GS is absolutely knocking it out of the park, amazing brand that is only going to get more popular
Outstanding Review the production quality of this video is second to none 👏
@josepht.7937
Жыл бұрын
I totally agree...exceptional quality!
love the Ran movie reference 😂 excellent film but it was funny seeing it in this context
TGV, your intros are SO cool!!!
Well done Sir! Your History and narration is perfect.
@theurbangentry
Жыл бұрын
Thank you my friend, you are very kind to say. 😀🙏 Best regards, TGV
I get it now why I love your channel so much.. you’re the Sir David Attenborough of the watch world. Slow, steady, insightful and knowledgeable. Love it!
@theurbangentry
Жыл бұрын
You made our day. I read your comment out aloud to my wife, we both thank you from the bottom of our hearts. Onwards and ever upwards! Best regards TGV
@epicv7dayz824
Жыл бұрын
Hey mate, need your considered advice. I’m fixated about the GS SBGK017. I’m in my watch collection journey that it’s all become ho hum with Sports style or dive watches. I’ve got Squale x 3 omega PO 2500, Hamiltons, all sit in my watch box and not really in rotation perhaps due to the fact I don’t want them damaged cause they are so damn beautiful. . I remember your episode where you felt like culling your Collection and redefining your collection to suit your personality as of now. My question is how do you get rid of pieces that you’re “attached” to, to just one or two watches that fits your person at this time? Big ask I know. I only ask as I think you’re going through the same process as me. Cheers
mesmerizing ..beautifully executed
Another excellent video. Great stuff.
I got into the hobby as a Seiko fan boy, like everyone else, of course. Eventually, I bought my GS sbgv 207. So pretty and exquisite, with both dial and case really demonstrating that famous attention to detail and finishing. I loved it. So I never really worked out why I found it a bit boring. It's something I've become aware of with even the prettiest GS Snowflake. Is it the same here? Just because you can truly appreciate it, it doesn't mean you'll automatically love it.... Just as an addendum. I've never watched many of your videos, but I've been catching up and really enjoying them. Especially when with Mark. Keep it up, I appreciate the effort 👍
I love your videos! Great content! Keep it up!
Amazing video once again. This caseshape is killer.
Great review 👍
The master of intros strikes again. Oh and the watch is also quite special. 😁
A lovely design, well-made. Just something missing for me, not sure what? an excellent review though and description. You’re a photography skills (or is it videography) are excellent T! Best regards Stuart
Very nice one TGV. I'm a big GS fan. Excellent review as always!
You are the Goat of KZread -Watch world my friend !
I expect Seiko 5 chronograph in near future...a new game changer from Seiko...great content as always.
I had a similar experience when I was in my local AD last week. I almost pulled the trigger on a Skyflake a couple years ago, and would go check on it now and then. Went in, saw the SBGK017, and that was that.
Thank you, very informative video, great editing and introduction. The GS is on my wish list, I agree about the water resistant, could do with upping to 50m minimum. Love the strap but yes could do with tapering. Interesting about the dial/parallax feature!
Beautiful watch and wonderful review. The water resistance is a let down for a piece I would consider a daily wear.
TGV I bought a Carl Fredrick wallet based on your recommendation! Loving it! Pure class!
Wonderful review!....I’m so glad to see another manual winder....can these be making a come back?!
Another epic opening and superb editing! The face on that GS looks amazing and great to see coverage on this watch. Is that Hugo's cousin??
Got to mention the intro! Awesome
@josepht.7937
Жыл бұрын
Fact!
Very attractive case,. Nice piece thanks!
Love the shot of the understated elegance of the 017 with the Mission Impossible down in the corner - it speaks volumes of your true watch enthusiasm (oh, and only a true film enthusiast would include Takeshi Kitano in the intro 👈 ). Keep it up, T 👍
@theurbangentry
Жыл бұрын
😉🥂 Thank you my friend, I am honored by your words. Best regards, TGV
Great video TGV! I honestly can't understand why modern watches can't get the water resistance higher‽ I wear my sarb every day and it's nice to not have to worry about water, I've forgotten to take it off on many occasions. Keep up the amazing work!!!!
@theurbangentry
Жыл бұрын
YESSSSS 🙌🙌🙌 I am totally with you. It always seems to come back to the good old SARB, still unbeaten to this day. Enjoy it and thank you Scott. Best regards, TGV
Nice vid mate. I do like your taking time to do a historical overview. My bent is towards dive and dive style watches, but this beauty looks amazing and I so need one. What makes this watch resonate with me is that it reminds me of my manual wind mechanical Hamilton that was issued to me whilst in the military which I sadly lost many years ago. i now need to sell one my kidneys to afford one 👍
Fab history professor!🎉
I recently got a field master ( land turtle ) directly from Japan. On the warranty card there was a stamp where it was sold. When I looked it up it was the grand seiko studio as shown in stock footage in this video. And it seems that it has been regulated because the 4R35 inside is much accurate than the one in my baby Tuna.
@tdugong
Жыл бұрын
Must have been from before GS were spun off from Seiko as their own company. Congratulations!
Seriously wonderful. Might the make the shortlist for the GS you're planning for your eventual Japan visit?
Thank you so much TGV for sharing your thoughts on such a beautiful timepiece!! This watch attracts attention and is conservative at the same time making it “pure class!” Stay healthy and well as always! (Nick L) ❤❤❤🦖🦖🦖👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
8.30am, bank holiday. Dogs still sleeping. Espresso in hand. TGV watch review on the phone. Perfect start to the day 👌🏽
I like this way of watch review video.
Ive always placed Japanese watches at the same level if not above when it comes to the affordable level. Id wager any Orient Star would always beat the equivalently priced Swiss watch. Never been a fan of small seconds so not my favourite Grand Seiko design. But i wouldn't hesitate to consider a Grand Seiko purchase above any other luxury watch purchase. The effort always shows which is a factor that just can't be ignored. Hope you and your family are healthy and well sir. Have a great upcoming week
@theurbangentry
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris, I need to revisit Orient Star, duly noted. Have a great rest of the weekend and I hope you and your family are well too. Onwards, upwards and chin chin! TGV
Beautiful watch!
Great video my friend. I love Seiko because of their Dials and performance but there is so much to love about that watch company lol
Excellent Video, as always. How about exploring the different Grand Seiko product lines, it can be overwhelming? My favourite is the Grand Seiko Spring Drive SBGY003.
I agree with you in the taper. That’s the one issue I have with my Hamilton Jazzmaster.
cool watch....and dig your Lone Wolf cub vids....
Top video as always TGV 👏🏻 🦖
Grand Seiko = Pure Class
That is a gorgeous piece
Excellent video again TGV. Did you dee the video Grand Seiko posted about a week ago presenting their new workshop featuring jaw droping technologies? Amd also in that video they presented a new tourbillon.
Loved the video TGV. Even my wife watched it. Would love to see a review of the mighty SBGE248G. The two tone sub and gmt killer. Best, Dom.
I love the historical shots in your videos cause it makes me realize that 100 years ago and today, the only difference really is brighter lights on the buildings. Whats 100 years from now going to bring?
I’m similar to you in that a Grand Seiko is in my future, but definitely want it to be in tandem with a trip to Japan. I’ve never been and would just love to go. A Tokyo Flash crazy digital and a Grand Seiko would be a must.
Hello, TGV, great video, as always. Recently, I was impressed how much has this chanel improved over the years, really. Just one thing, that spoils it for me a little - please, You mention Your disgust regarding the watch journalism less often? I do understand Your POV, I share it in a way, but I, and surely more of us, come here to forget about that and watch independant content. I would understand if it would be mentioned here and there, but it seems to me like a trend of Your latest videos. Do not take this personaly, it is just an observation from a viewer. Best of luck AF
While other reviewers seem to be going after market share TGV keeps it honest and pure - must be difficult to justify keeping going considering how much has changed in the watch space but we hope you do TGV
Very nice brotha even though even though its no Grand Seiko but the Seiko tuna Marine master with the Legendary 7C46 movement is my favorite Seiko ever made. Excellent video pizan 🇮🇹
Great video as always. Working for a Japanese manufacturer, I had to chuckle a bit at the Godzilla figurine and footage. I sometimes wear an awesome Van Gough inspired t-shirt that displays Godzilla destroying the town in "Starry night" while also wearing a Seiko Monster lol. Someone asked why I wear it. I simply answered that I love monster movies and art. I like Van Gogh becouse of the texture and thick paint. I can almost see the paintings being painted in reverse. Also have a few other parody art tees that I wear . I did have a Mission Impossible shirt that had my face with safety glasses on in place of Tom Cruise sunglasses 😎, she stole it and wears it sometimes 🤣
Just when I thought I was out, YOU keep pulling me in!!! Hahaha
I saw Godzilla vs Mecha-Godzilla in the theater as a boy. Wow! Love your vids - feels like old times seeing your Explorer and watching a Seiko (Grand Seiko review). I love the sub-seconds at nine but wish this was a smaller than 39mm.
Grand Seiko and Shin Godzilla, can't go wrong!
Great looking watch! I can't wait to go to Japan my self and pick one up there. The black birch is a nice one to do a review on. Spero tutto bene caro!
Great video and well-balanced as always, TGV. In addition to “Seiko” on the dial serving as a shibboleth of sorts, the parent Seiko has shot themselves in the foot by diluting the differentiation between Seiko and GS. Putting spring drive movements in Seikos has not helped GS, nor has Seiko’s upmarket positioning which is further muddying the waters. This watch is beautiful on the screen and I’m sure it’s terrific in-hand. I just think Seiko is making both tactical and strategic errors that is preventing GS from getting the recognition and respect it deserves.
Love the intro and the review. I'm itching to get the SBGM221. I think it's absolutely gorgeous. If you don't mind, I would be so grateful if you review it. Thanks in advance.
@ba2724
Жыл бұрын
That dial color is to die for. GS knows how to make gorgeous dials, that's for sure.
I wasn't too thrilled with the face of this GS, but it grew on me during your video, and also your use of the Voice (Dune reference) really did the trick. Now I must buy all the GS. How many mortgages on a house is too many?
Thanks for the review TGV. This is a model I hadn't seen reviewed elsewhere. I picked up on your comment that the teeth of the geartrain are hand polished. That's the type of attention to detail that doesn't surprise me from Grand Seiko. I still aspire to own a GS at some point but feel that dream is slipping further away with their increasing asking prices.
@ba2724
Жыл бұрын
Consider buying second hand. There are some great offerings and you may be closer to your dream than you think.