I can still hear his voice... ''They're masterworks all, you can't go wrong.''

@detropeRR

3 ай бұрын

RIP, he had no offsprings to claim his handcraft skills.

@thebigenchilada678

3 ай бұрын

@@detropeRRnot true, he marries you in the end of DD1.

@Demon-Akuoka

3 ай бұрын

​@@thebigenchilada678but what if they're both male?

@DoomedRedbull

3 ай бұрын

​@@Demon-Akuoka so, slight correction, you marry whoever you were closest with by the games climax. It can be most any NPC you can make care for you.

@Kazeromaru

Ай бұрын

That's what I heard while my character was bedding him... when I went for Ulrika and instead got him...

I knew all roads led to Gran Soren

@JesahsuKuristoh

3 ай бұрын

That’s because all roads that lead back home, they’re masterworks all.

@sofrencia8403

3 ай бұрын

The Duck did not commission some new roads...

@thorulf4086

3 ай бұрын

What a duch😂​@@sofrencia8403

@DeadEye364

3 ай бұрын

You just made me have an existential crisis, I hate how sound that is XD

@AnotherGamingDude

3 ай бұрын

The pawns in this party are women all.

What visiting your old school as an adult feels like.

@Breadwalker765

3 ай бұрын

Nah that's always the contrary the moment you finally leave the school when you go back you find a whole ass new building in it.

@asasity

3 ай бұрын

Your school in Gaza or Ukraine?

@giggajames1903

3 ай бұрын

@@asasity Worse, Detroit.

@nikhanif4602

3 ай бұрын

free Palestine

@bootyman1670

3 ай бұрын

@@nikhanif4602stop talking about politics on a fucking gaming video.

When i first realized where i actually was, i was blown the fuck away

@mukasi3334

3 ай бұрын

same, happened to me yesterday. i was just walking down the houses and my inner demon whispered" they're masterworks all, you cant go wrong"

@Xfushion2

3 ай бұрын

I didn't get it until I reached the duke's palace, mind blown.

@matticcusphynch

3 ай бұрын

This. I noticed the staircase going up from the "Pawn Guild" up to the Duke's Domain and immediately thought "could this be Grand Soren?" I went over to the Rift Crystal and sure enough, there was the Pawn Guild building. I proceeded to then walk through the entire shrine, having a Breath of the Wild moment looking at the rubble of that wonderful city. Such a great inclusion by Capcom!

@casual2694

3 ай бұрын

@@matticcusphynch When I first entered the everfall where you get the godsbane, I thought "man this looks a lot like the everfall, it has the staircase going up and everything" and somehow didn't piece together it WAS the everfall, and gran soren, until I was just about to do the final beacon/rift thing in the unmoored world.

@KingIna247

3 ай бұрын

@@casual2694 I had a feeling too. even before the unmoored world when I came to the seafloor shrine and crossed to batahl from there I knew that sunken castle was gran soren. And when I arrived at the moonlight tower, I felt it was bluemoon tower. We were running around a world built upon a destroyed Gransys. I was also confused I was discovering riftstones that was supposed to be underwater before the unmoored world happened. If there was no time-limit I would've explored a lot more and tried to find where Cassardis was supposed to be

I remember jumping down from the ledge leading to the pawn guild and immediately felt like I've done it thousands of times before. Then it hit me...I was home.

Vendors are the real ones in Dragons Dogma, a giant Dragon may be at loose killing everybody, half of the city may colapse in front of them and the entire world may become an apocalyptic wasteland but they'll NEVER EVER close shop.

@statickaiinaweirdworld179

3 ай бұрын

They'll also never stop charging you either. In a world where gold is pretty much meaningless, now that the world is ending, still gotta charge the guy saving it thousands of gold for a sword.

@user-ei4ou8lx3e

3 ай бұрын

vendors knew, this guy would save the world, the money would return the price and they would become many times richer xD

@Cronatic

3 ай бұрын

@@statickaiinaweirdworld179 Wouldn't you charge the multi-millionare whose gonna make more money chasing a dragon than you'll ever see in your life?

@thelegendofthedogfacedwoma3708

3 ай бұрын

Hey, it might be the apocalypse, half the city might have collapsed into an endless pit with an undead dragon skulking around in its depths, or the world might flood and drown the land, or the world might even be being devoured by the fog of oblivion but THEY'RE MASTERWORKS ALL, YOU CAN'T GO WRONG

@walkmonkey7

3 ай бұрын

Capitalism waits for no one!

A nice bonus: The arena southwest of Vernworth is the bluemoon tower from dd1

@AmFreiceadanDubh

3 ай бұрын

I just found this too, didn't see your comment when I made mine! Mind goes poof.

@Unknown-kc8ik

3 ай бұрын

Knew it loll definitely got bigger

@Unknown-kc8ik

3 ай бұрын

Also the blue moon town in the new game is on the wrong side

@Ragnarok182

3 ай бұрын

I freaking knew it felt somewhat familiar!!

@Sylvaard

3 ай бұрын

it doesn’t make sense though because that mean gran soren rotated by about 180 degrees. it’s clear it’s blue moon. but look which way gran soren is facing

What gets me is that after all those years they never bothered to fix that hole in the gaol wall.

@dracogatom7873

3 ай бұрын

I mean it was the apocalypse during the original game, at that point Gran Soren was essentially lost with the old duke's death and a giant hole in the center of the kingdom where the majority of the citizens were anyways.

@dreadnaught2406

3 ай бұрын

@@dracogatom7873 But this is either a post-reset timeline or alternate world entirely because I wasn't a furry when I finished the game and Rothais' rule was a prosperous one.

@RantingDireWolf

3 ай бұрын

​@@dreadnaught2406Or not, as 10's of thousands of years can between the games, or hundreds, and in that time, the new kingdom of Velmund was founded by a beastren arisen, and who knows How long sence then till Our characters show up, as each arisen is immortal and could have ruled for Thousands of years at a time each, or only a hundred each, time in drsgons dogma isent mesured even remotely like irl which means that grand soren could have sunk like atlantis into the ocean Who knows how many eons ago, as nobody even remembers it

@meyes1098

3 ай бұрын

This was a thing in medieval times. There was one or a few cells with escape routes, and if you knew the right people and had the right favours, you would be sent to that specific cell, and then you would escape and flee the kingdom.

@meyes1098

3 ай бұрын

@@RantingDireWolf Rothias was just sealed down there, it doesn't mean he was the founder of it. They say he founded Vermond, not gran soren. My guess is that gran soren was flooded a long time ago, and Rothias founded Vermond, did all his stuff, and was eventually sealed under water in the ruins of gran soren.

0:42 oh this hurts. This hurts bad. The match shot, the transition from Gran Soren to its ruins, the music

Bitter Black Isle must be out there somewhere then.

@Nero_PR

3 ай бұрын

Bitter and Blacker this time.

@Nyx_Eos

3 ай бұрын

Bitterest Blackest Isles DLC when?

@theangryimp1345

3 ай бұрын

DLC 🙏

@armando92

3 ай бұрын

isnt bitterblack an Arisen made island that only other arisen can actually see and that will eventually disapear after big bad dies since he was making the whole place with his powers?

@theangryimp1345

3 ай бұрын

@@armando92 yeah but also fan service

what gave it away to me was the shop stalls. They were masterworks all; and could never go wrong. . .

When I first stepped into the water shrine I was like, wait that is familiar. I know this place. This game is a good one

It is proven! All roads are connected to Gran Soren! Man.... Now I'm sad to see it in that state.

Holy fuck I spent DAYS in Gran Soren and didn't realize I was back there... now I'm in NG+ and have to beat the game again to find this...

@zolo4600

3 ай бұрын

same. 300 hrs in ddda and im disappointed i didn’t catch it myself

@cherryrook8684

3 ай бұрын

I didn't realize it either, its facing the wrong way though and is a lot smaller in the game. With proportions being off its easy to not catch it i feel

@ArchieGamez

3 ай бұрын

Especially going to Seafloor Shrine first time, im like wait a minute this seems familiar

@angry_sideburns

3 ай бұрын

same, I am so angry I didn't notice - then again I kinda rushed the Unmoored World because I was scared of the time limit ;w;

@andrelima8383

3 ай бұрын

@@angry_sideburns that's exactly what happened to me :(

Ah, so I wasn't the only one who's brain started lagging when I came into the throne room. It just made "click" and I was hit by crippling depression, because of the realisiation that non of our labours in the first game amounted to anything. This version of Gran Soren might not have been swallowed by the everfall, but it all ended in ruin regardless.

@aestheticswim3397

3 ай бұрын

"what will it be today?"

@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290

3 ай бұрын

@@aestheticswim3397 "they're masterworks all..." *holds back tears*

@loadscreen1011

3 ай бұрын

​​@@aestheticswim3397more like "wahweelibitodeh"

@jyuratodus272

3 ай бұрын

The throne room made me think of Damon's boss chamber but I was obviously wrong. It's been a long time, ok lmao

@aestheticswim3397

3 ай бұрын

@@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290 "you can't go wrong"

If anyone hasn't noticed yet, further mysteries lie under Vermund and Battahl, as all over these regions you can come across arches and ruined doors just like the one for the Seabed Shrine. They all have the design of the door that blocks Bakbbatahl from the volcanic island. Some are even found deeper within caves. Hopefully Capcoms continued support leads to these being gates to further content drops or Ur-dragon like bosses. Theres also the Agamen culture who borrows a lot of influence from greco roman styles and could be far older than even Gran Soren, as the Greco Roman aesthetics were also used in DD1 when referencing that games Dragonforged and his old culture in the lands beyond the Black Fort.

@froggouk2

3 ай бұрын

Yeah theories are these Godsbane doors are DLC / unfinished areas and you'll need to use the restored Godsbane to access, which makes sense to not accessing them too early if they are DLC. They're also green, instead of the Blue door in Battahl.

@Thezzet

Ай бұрын

A DLC for the game has practically been confirmed. The doors with the symbol, and the post-credit scene of the old man going by boat to another world. Maybe he will be the bridge that leads to the DLC.

I recognized it by that fucking stairwell alone, i mustv run up and down it hundreds of times...

You can also find ruins of Cassardis on the northwestern part of Agamen Island There’s a cliff that juts out over the water with ruins on it and it looks like pieces of the Cassardis gate wall

@TheJvc95

2 ай бұрын

Really?! Now I must see that for myself!

Similarities and other discrepancies seem to suggest that this is but a parallel world to that of DD1. Whatever happened to the Gran Soren in this world, it was a mirrored version to that of what we already knew from DD1. We already know that pawns travel between worlds that resemble each other almost identically, so this is the game's way of saying that whatever "Gran Soren" this was, it happened but it was a very, very different one to the one we once knew.

This genuinely made me feel things. Especially the use of that classic DD1 theme. As good as the music is in DD2, it doesn't really compare to the first game's soundtrack. But I really appreciate the devs putting this in the game. Feels like going home a bit. When I first saw the ruins of Gran Soren during my first playthrough, I kept walking around just looking at the place. Like; "This is subtly different, there used to be a door here, this is where I met so and so, I should be able to go down there..." It's not entirely our Gran Soren, but it's clearly Gran Soren. The fact that it isn't 100% identical might just mean that this is a version of the city that existed at some point in the past during the cyclical nature of this world. In my headcanon, this is an echo of a Gran Soren that's long since perished. That also places all the events of DD1 in the distant past from the perspective of this game.

@Rain1

3 ай бұрын

Agreed, I don't remember any of the music from dragon's dogma 2 except for the title screen because I'm greeted with it every time I turn the game on

@buddywalker7

3 ай бұрын

@@Rain1the true ending song was okay for me and memorable.

@Rain1

3 ай бұрын

@@buddywalker7 I actually haven't made it there yet lol.

@Wizard_Pikachu

3 ай бұрын

It's a parallel world. Not a direct sequel.

@randomdungeonmaster

3 ай бұрын

@@Wizard_Pikachu It could run on a similar timeline though at least. Like obviously there's differences, but the timeline could be the same.

I am my second time in the unmoored world now and it literally just hit me today....this is Gran Soren. I am home. I am walking around the small settlement full of the people I have rescued and noting where everything is, was....the stairs to the castle, the hill down to the Pawn Guild....the darn rift is in the same place. I broke down in tears. I have made Gran Soren my playground for 10 years. I made the same Arisen and Pawn for DD2....they are home at last. It really hit me when I came up the lift in the seafloor shrine, I was like, is this the Everfall? then I hit the prison cells and....my cell, where I was flung countless times...Julien's cell is there....and the hole in the wall!

Interestingly, if you compare the maps lining up Gran Soren and the Sea Shrine Ruins then the Excavation Site is right over Cassardis.

@meian9865

3 ай бұрын

I remember seeing ruins out at sea in cassardis, the ones that the dragon smashes in the beginning. Damn! It's prolly flooded down there in DD1

@hypenoct

2 ай бұрын

​@@meian9865HOLY FUCKING SHIT IT IS AN ETTERNAL CYCLE AFTER ALL

@OutragedVirus66

11 күн бұрын

@@meian9865I thought those ruins were a fish market/ship dock.

Its crazy how the first time I came here for the story quest I recognized it was Gran Soren by the layout of the castle but actually exploring it in the unmoored world made me feel things.

Looks like Gran Soren went into total decline after the events of the last cycle.

@Axel5550

3 ай бұрын

Not just total decline, but the world experienced some form of total cataclysm that flooded it all and moved people upwards into higher elevation.

@chaoticneutralgiraffe5514

3 ай бұрын

@@Axel5550 If only there was a little blonde boy in a green tunic with a magic boat....

@jaydenlobbe7911

3 ай бұрын

I mean it *did* have a giant hole in the middle of it, reconstruction would be too much work

@samflood5631

3 ай бұрын

I wonder how Duke Edmund is doing these days. As well as the rest of the citizens of Gran Soren.

@dmonsterlove

3 ай бұрын

He turned to dust​@@samflood5631

All roads lead to gran soren...This is such a nostalgia boom, and also very sad to see what that town many of us first arrived to over a decade ago ended up as.

I really feel as though almost all of the criticism this game has received has been from people who didn't play or like the first game

King rothias chamber in seabed shrine is the everfall if you guys havnt noticed

Instantly recognized Lenore's tower. Then rest of the pieces started to fit in place.

BRUHHH HOW CAN I NOT NOTICE THIS!!! Im so disapointed in myself FR... I played the first game just recently at january ... had about 160 hours on DD1... and 76 hours on DD 2... HOW TF I DIDN"T NOTICE THAT THIS IS GRAN SOREN

@justareplica

3 ай бұрын

I noticed once I got to Batahl. The curve of the map was obvious for me. Also the title screen says “Dragons Dogma” without the 2. Kind of a hint for things to come. 👍

@TiennosMigos

3 ай бұрын

You're not alone with this 😅.. 😢

@anon2752

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I didnt realize the whole place was gran soren, i just recognized the castle

@casual2694

3 ай бұрын

@@anon2752 I only recognized the everfall at first. Took me a minute.

@squee-g1658

3 ай бұрын

Fr! I feel ashamed!

What's crazy is that now we know under Vermund lies Gran Soren, and even deeper lies the Everfall. How deep do these structures go that have been buried through the passing of the cycles?

@JLG35X

3 ай бұрын

Who knows if there is still an Everfall since the last Seneschal broke the cycle.

@ghostlyswat12

3 ай бұрын

@@JLG35Xbut if this is the same grand soren then dd1 arisen didn’t break the cycle One theory is that after the arisen died the greater will was fuming and basically punished the world destroyed great soren and flooded the area then instead of sanchels he got a pathfinder to monitor the cycle

@JLG35X

3 ай бұрын

@@ghostlyswat12 I'm not saying it is the same Gran Soren or even if it was that a DD1 arisen broke the cycle. I think from the info in the game that in this world the Lion dude that gives you the broken Godsbane was the last Seneschal of this world and he broke the cycle that this world had that was like the last game, he was greedy and wanted to rule everything from earth.

His last Masterwork was the friends we made along the way Can’t go wrong when all roads lead to the same place

Man, this video made me realize how much I miss DD1's music in DD2...

They're masterworks all, you can't go wrong 😭😭😭

Wow, this actually gave me a lump in my throat. All the hours spent questing with NPCs in Gran Soren, and now I'm sadly reminded of "The Reynes of Castamere" or "Jenny of Oldstones". Great vid, thanks!

Damn... i love this game even more now

Remind me of Dark Souls III The Ringed City, where in the first part of the DLC after you kill the Prince Demon you just notice, if you played the first game, that you are actually in the first Firelink Shrine. I am really happy for this detail and I just wish that I had played the first game before the second.

When I reached the underwater shrine and saw the the audience chambers, I knew exactly where I was. And when I reached unmoored world, I was ready to see it all again.

I had a feeling lol. The amount of times i ran up the stairs to get to the noble quarter practically imprinted onto my brain. I could do it with my eyes closed. I walked up the stairs and I was like hmm I'm getting some serious dd1 vibes but I can't explain why

it made me genuinely sad once i reached the seafloor shrine, i recognized every little piece of it because i loved every bit of it, all the memories and adventures lost to time

If you flip map from dragon's dogma. use seafloor shrine as Gran Soren and rotate Bluemoon tower to same location in DD2 Shadow fort will be on the same location with Ancient Battlefield.

One thing this also reminded me of, is the old city ruins in the depths of bitterblack island in dd1. Could it be that the world of every new cycle is lain over the previous one?

When I first started exploring the Sea Floor Shrine and came across the grand rift stone. The building it was in and the surrounding area seemed familiar. Then it hit me... All roads lead to Gran Soren...

It's like finding the original Firelink Shrine in Dark Souls 3

I was amazed that after not playing DD1 for about 7 years, i could tell that this area was a call back to Gran Soren from just the jail. Like from the lift ride up after the godsbane I could tell something was up, and when i saw the double staircase i knew for sure

I never even made the connection until I saw it directly compared here. This is coming from someone who had 300+ hours in Dragon's Dogma 1.

dd2 is an alternate universe where the cycle wasnt ended, thus explaining how gran soren can be in dd2

@CheLovEkoShpRoT

3 ай бұрын

It is probably the same universe Arisens actions in the first one did not lead to a cycle broken

@oldeverwrym8329

3 ай бұрын

@@CheLovEkoShpRoTyeah there was a ending that lead to the end of the cycle not sure if it was the “ true” ending though

@samflood5631

3 ай бұрын

The Lore of Dragon’s Dogma is more like the Multiverse Theory in where in DD1, there are only the Duchies of Gransys, Hearthstone, Meloire and Voldoa with some Elves and Dwarves that rarely made an appearance in the first game. In DD2, there’s just the Kingdom of Vermund, the Battahl Empire and the Sacred Arbor. Both the casts of Dragon’s Dogma 1 and 2 are a lot different as in one, there’s Duke Edmund and his wife, Mercedes, Julian, Madeline, Quina, Serena, Mason and Elysion. In 2, there’s Brent, Ulrika, Wilhelmina, Sven, Empress Nadinia, Menella, Glyndwr, Talisen and Doireann. In the first game, the Arisen and Main Pawn can be either a Human or Elf. In the Second Game, the Arisen and Main Pawn can be either a Human, Elf or Beastren.

@Delwin_reis

3 ай бұрын

@@CheLovEkoShpRoT There are several parallel worlds, so there are several endings, why the fuck do people ignore this since the pawns themselves are from a different world.

@Carne_Cruda

3 ай бұрын

@@samflood5631 Just another cycle of the moorcocks's eternal champion i guess

I went back annd forth in my head if it was or not constantly saying..."this seems so familiar"

GRAN SOREN IS BACK in the 2nd? I mean, those ruins that emerges from the sea... is actually it? =O

I had a feeling the shrinken sanctuary was gran soren. Also did anyone else notice how the throne the founder of vermworth was sitting on is the same one the Seneschal used?

Wow. I played the original Dragon's Dogma and obviously the new DD2, but I didn't realize it was the city from the first game. Now that you show it... wow The music. Perfect!

I remember as i turned right into the throne-room. There was this sudden confusion, then i realized. What a blast from the past that was.

Wow…all roads really do lead to Gran Soren

Since this is a parallel world to each other infinitely, the moored world is what happened to Gransys and gran Soren when it potentially got flooded and the water level has risen thus either destroying an already existing Gransys/gran Soren or the water level rising prevented it from being named and claimed and thus leading to a different outcome that we have here with Vermund and bhethal being the main lands that were formed. Likely the former since the unmoored world without the water heavily resembles gran Soren!

@Unknown-kc8ik

3 ай бұрын

Wonder what became of the tanted mountain where u fight the dragon in the first game and the big ass ruins their

@TheTickyTickyTicky

3 ай бұрын

This is what happens when the world allows furries to exist, things just go to shit.

@orfeuderon

3 ай бұрын

Remember, dragons dogma there are multiverses, so this gran soren And an alternative version of another reality, from another cycle, perhaps Gran Soren from the first game is still there, built, or in the same state. This is crazy

@deustauries

3 ай бұрын

​@@orfeuderonyup. But the reality for this game is, its not Gran Soren. Its a look alike buts its not the same. This is much smaller and its also inverted and mirrored. The entire urban section is missing and its frongates face what people assume is the bluemoon tiwer vs in dd1, it was the back of gran soren not the front. Its just there to mess with us.

I feel sad now. I had a feeling even when it was still sunken before the unmoored world. I felt the castle seemed familiar

It's weird when I got to the unalive world and got back here it hit me that I was home and looking at what happened as I was away for a long time

I knew as soon as I saw that the throne room looked like the everfall I knew this was Gran Soren

And soon you will all be able to bask in the brilliance of Lestania from the MMO.

No wonder I felt nostalgia when walking there ❤️

I thought something looked familiar when I got to this area but couldn't guess why, now I know lmao

Had my first moment of realization, the first time walking out of the sea floor shrine before post game. It was when I was crossing over the tiny bridge to what was once the queens tower Another crazy callback, is finding the original blue moon tower. It’s the boss arena just south of Vernworth. It matches up geographically too, way to the northeast, where the original would have been.

I didn’t realize it was gran Soren!

FINALLY SOMEONE UPLOADED SOMETHING ABOUT THIS REFERENCE!!! I SAW IT VIA THE MAPS BEING THE SAME AND NEARLY CRIED I WAS SO HAPPY

Ya know. This may or may not be a popular comparison. When I found "Gran Soren" it brought me back when I was a wee boy discovering a destroyed Tristram for thie first time in Diablo 2. You remember Gran Soren and Tristrim in their jovial renditions. Too see Gran Soren like this. This hit more harder for some reason. This is literally for verbatim Gran Soren

Didn't think they'd take the line "'Neath a faulted sky" so literally.

Here is my explanation as to why Gran Soren is facing the wrong way. First off, Bluemoon tower is in fact in this game southwest of Vernworth. The entranceway is shot-for-shot the same as it is in the first game, its just missing the surounding areas of the tower, and the top is blocked off due to rocks. Compared its location to the first game, it is exactly where it should be relative to the ruins of Gran Soren, its just that Gran Soren appears to be rotated 180° the wrong way, with the entrance facing NE instead of SW. So either the devs made a mistake, or it's deliberate. It could be that Gran Soren was shifted 180° when it was sunk. Clearly half the town is missing, and the landscape is drastically different. But we also need to take into consideration that this game takes place in a parallel world to what we play in Dragons Dogma Dark Arisen. This was confirmed by Capcom. So this is not the same timeline or cycle that we play in the first game, but it is similar. Even with half the city missing, you can clearly see that Gran Soren is visibly smaller in Dragons Dogma 2 and looks much more like a compact fortress compared to how its portrayed as a large city in the first game. Its features are very similar, just more compact. So this is %100 Gran Soren, just not %100 how we knew it because its in a parallel world to the one we knew, and in this world (DD2) it looks to have been a fortress (not a city) and is rotated 180° from how we knew it. One other thing, there's also no entrance in the old ruins of the pawn guild leading the everfall, or any sign that there ever was one.

Oh man this brings back feels. PS: I've stumbled your pawn so many times in the fence

I really likes the fact that the big ass rifstone is exactly at the pawn guild building,i just wish there was a door to its left leading in to the everfall

Welp. That's another appreciation for the games. I was curious about the timeline but forgot to google it after finishing. Also, I love cyclical themes in games. Dark Souls for instance as well as Dark Arisen's cycles of Arisen and the Dragon.

Hearing this music again gave me chills. It’s crazy to see how many people played the sequel and didn’t even recognise the ruins of the first game.

My beautiful man Caxton, where have you gone.

@imaginalex5850

3 ай бұрын

i think the closest famillial bond of caxton's descendant is Morris the shopkeeper in the town near the battahl door, the guy that sends you saving his little kid from the wolf, he looks like a much much older Caxton

@orfeuderon

3 ай бұрын

Or, maybe Caxton doesn't exist in this reality

@gamingdork3681

3 ай бұрын

@@orfeuderon I know I am a bit late but think about it if this game takes place in other universe wouldn't it make sense to just call it dragon's dogma reboot rather than 2 . Something like mw 2019 vs OG mw

I watched this entire video with my jaw dropped. I've spent HUNDREDS of hours in Gran Soren, how could I not see it before...

I just got to that place today and totally thought it all looked so familiar. I think it might be a homage to the mountain where you battle the dragon at the end of the first game. Kinda looks the same but much smaller.

Grand Soren is in ruins yet some dude in the smithy is still talking about how much of w masterwork his crafts are

I never expected to see this place again. It may look Worn down and battered now but that is most certainly gran soren why its in the middle of the ocean i could not fathom but wow how neat is that.

I knew it, I could picture it, I just needed this to solidify it in my skull! Thank you for this.

I genuinely feel ashamed for not noticing this. I feel like the palace chambers portion felt familiar, but I figured it was just devs using a similar map, but as it turns out it was a hint. I wish I explored the seafloor shrine more in Unmoored, I probably would have recognized immediately.

Wait what the fuck? That's Gran Soren?!?!?

First discovering the ruins, I had Thought I had recognized the Throne room coming out from below.

I didn't notice this at all. Cool detail, next playthrough I'm checking it thorougly

I knew I should've replayed DD1 before 2. It had been so long I forgot Gran Soren's layout. That's cool

You're the only one to post a video about this, I'm surprised no one else has said anything.

As soon as I saw it rise out of the water, I immediately recognised it just from the brickwork. My mind was BLOWN.

Basically, the last Seneschal from this cycle got bored and decided to break the rules. He descended to rule as king, likely used his godlike powers to reshape the land as well. The Pathfinder did not like that and as a result the second game is set in a world where the cycle is interrupted for who knows how many thousands of years.

Its kinda like in the first game you go to the tainted mountain and theres an ancient destroyed city in there where an Arisen most likely was involved,so in DD2 's alternate world gran soren already got ruined and became ancient ruins,everything is a cycle.

Holy sh... I didn't know Seriously, this game is an absolute masterwork of an experience. Unbelievable game making right there

Been waiting for someone to do this

I think I just realized the Seafloor shrine part you go to when the water is still there is actually the castle, that blew my fucking mind

holy shit. i idn't realize

I was asking myself if this was grand soran or not but I’m so happy it is maybe despite what the devs said maybe this does take place in the same universe and so much time has passed between the first and second game or maybe it’s just an Easter egg

the friggin nostalgia just hit like a truck, holy crap.

Had a hunch when I first explored that castle on the seabed. This video confirms it. Game is fucking awesome.

I definitely called it was I saw duchess's tower poking out of the water when i first explored around the castle.😅

The second i exited the area after getting the godsbane i had this double take and stopped and looked around a bit. I was like wait a minute this is the same layout as the throne room, let me check if alinores chamber is here, and sure enough it was and that momemnt of realization was probably the best moment of the game for me, since its on you to figure that out, its not played up or even mentioned, its just there, forgotten

Also when you leave the Roathis shrine floor after meeting him , you leave thru the jail cells that were within gran corners castle and end up in the throne room. The nostalgia was crazy

Love the way they presented gran soren

Damn I didn't even realise it was Gran Soren but some parts of it did feel nostalgic for some reason. Gives me more hope for an Everfall update in the future that opens up beneath the seafloor shrine

Wow I thought the valley with the sloping walkway looked familiar! Also great nostalgia @4:10. Reminds me of vibing with the DD:DA menu music.

The portcrystal that appears in the unmoored world in the volcanic area close to the battahl-volcanic area bridge fits the location of cassardis...

It's been a long time since playing DDDA I totally missed this detail but man that's so kool My guess is that after the MC of old game ended the cycle the pathfinder took over to keep the status Quo he then deleted every instance of the old Seneschal's world giving the world over to the Brine so that it could not happen again. and here we are again breaking the cycle that's pretty awesome lore wise. xD

Thank you! I couldn't place the familiarity until now.