Awesome vid Gash. So glad you rushed the gate and punched out a brew on the new g40. nice work mate!

Hi from Ireland. Many thanks, great video with lots of useful information. I'd like to add my tuppence worth. At or close to sea level, water boils at 100 degrees C, sugar solutions on the other hand, boil at something more like 103 degrees. If you are able to set your boil target temperature at 103 or even 105, you should achieve a good rolling boil and be able to add your hops once the boil temperature is reached. You mention the Brewmeister didn't reach a rolling boil at 100 degrees, this is the reason why....it isn't supposed to. Keep your otherwise excellent videos coming

@HomeBrewNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

The town I am in lowest is 1m and highest in 14m, I think I'm at about 3m.. but I hear what you're saying, and today I set it just 1c higher to see what would it happen, at first for some reason totally confused the PID and even though it said it was ramping to boil, it dropped the power % once it got close, which it shouldnt do on ramp to boil, Im not sure why, but it took over an hour, and then yes I manually took over and pumped it right up, after that it went ok. but there was something wrong there.. I think PIDs need adjusting which is pretty easy, usually you would set them to a learning cycle and they teach themselves what power to use where, I dont think these are set like that, but time will tell, my guess an out of the box plug and play it probably isnt, and they'll push through updates to fix these things. Cheers! Thanks for the valuable input!

Cheers Gash!

cheers mate i must amit the finish of the grain farther is much better than my Robo brew the only thing i did not like about the Robo brew is the pump all ways block up ,but saying that the brew was great

@HomeBrewNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

Well, not on the inside, way more pitting etc in grainfather but its more solid. I'm not sure how you block a pump mate unless youre using the pump during boiling or not taking the hose out of the grain when turning the pump off. Cheers!

Loving the way it whirlpools

@HomeBrewNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

Gets a fair whirlpool up thats for sure!

Mate I think you need to do another brew and pretend your a complete newbie and do everything as if you trust the machine and see how it comes out. You did intervene a lot for your first batch which shows your experience but im curious to see how good it would be for a complete newbie as these wifi controlled systems seem to be marketed that way. I think in some ways you gave the system a bit of a pass as you were able to leverage your experience which makes me think this system is not a beginner system. Anyway great demo as usual Gash, keep up the good work!

Stir that mash a little more, so dry until the pump circulation

Cheers Gash, can you brew with this on manual or is it run just through an app 🤔 I'm old school I don't like my brewery telling me what to do... I tell my brewery what to do!! 🤣 Talus and Citra... looking forward to seeing your thoughts on the combo 👍🍻🍻 cheers Mate, Mike.

Would the G40 and S40 units be able to do full boil volume mashes (no sparge) on smaller brews like these ?

@HomeBrewNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

Umm yes, well this it could of for sure, the one i did today with umm over 6kg and a heap of oats, said full volume but add was near 2 L at the end. I'm just a old school sparge fan. Cheers Jigsaw

Shouldn’t you leave the hop filter off for the mash, boil and whirlpool and only install it just before wort transfer? Doesn’t it prevent full grain recirc and full hop whirlpool extraction?

@HomeBrewNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

no that would be near impossible, its just a false bottom, Cheers!

I have an embarrassing admission to make. I did my first G40 brew day today and everything was going great until I went to transfer my cooled wort into my fermenter. I used an immersion chiller so all of the wort in the G40 was at pitching temperature. I fitted my unit with the drain valve. So the plan was to position my fermenter under the valve and open it, letting the wort drain into the fermenter. When I opened the valve I got no flow. So I connected the recirculation tube and tried the pump. No wort. After 15 minutes of futility and not having any other ideas I decided to dump the batch, flip the G40 over, remove the bottom cover to get at the plumbing, and I could immediately see the pump inlet tube was clogged with hop matter. So I took the tube off of the pump inlet and blew hard into it to dislodge the hop matter. Hooked everything back up and all was well. Someone elsewhere suggested my problem was caused by user error because I didn't use the included counter-flow chiller. Right. What did not occur to me was to just reconnect the recirculation tube at the top of the G40 and then blow into it. Doh!! Yep, I had a Homer Simpson moment and it cost me a batch of nut brown ale. That said, I am disappointed that my G40 was brought down by 3oz of Northern Brewer hop pellets.

@CrazyAboutVinylRecords

4 ай бұрын

I heard back from Grainfather support today. Kudos to them for getting back to me so quickly. They are focusing on the false bottom. They asked me for a video showing me installing and removing it. And they also wanted a photo of the underside of the false bottom with a ruler on it showing the diameter. I went to go make the video and noticed that I was having an issue getting a good seal between the false bottom outer lip and the bottom of the G40. I could feel a gap in one spot. So we will see what Grainfather has to say after they review the info I provide. I can continue to use the system but until this gets sorted out I will need to use a hop spider.

@HomeBrewNetwork

4 ай бұрын

Hopefully it gets sorted, cheers mate!

@CrazyAboutVinylRecords

4 ай бұрын

@@HomeBrewNetwork Thanks. Grainfather is sending me a replacement false bottom. Fingers crossed that it does the trick. 🙂

Never had a air bubble with the robobrew weird

Hi Great video. I also Hot cube and you have probable noticed this. I had problems with Volumes and not enough tofill cubes till I did a test fill on my cubes. I noticed that a 15 lt cube actually held 17.75 lts and that a 20 lt cube actually held 23.5 lts. I don't know if this is any help.

@HomeBrewNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing, yep thats for sure! Cheers!

What’s it like compared to the brewzilla ?

Long time no see. The hops are pronounced halus? Not sure if I've ever heard of the name but I do think you mentioned it before or did a beer with the hops in the Aussie lager?

@HomeBrewNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

Talus. Cheers mate

Are you running the 10 or 15 amp mode? Or is that a separate upgrade when you purchase?

@SimonBorg

2 жыл бұрын

Disregard....finally watched the end of your video and you answered my question

Alright Gash, quick question. How come when you used the robobrew and added whirlpool hops straight in, your pump never seemed to block? I'm using brewzilla with false bottom, but my pump always blocks when adding hops straight into vessel!! Cheers

@HomeBrewNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

No idea mate, are you using the pump while boiling? are you waiting for the wort to settle before whirlpooling and turning on pump? I've never even nearly had a pump blocked from hops in any the 4 different Robobrew/Brewzillas I have. Cheers!

@christopherwarman6510

2 жыл бұрын

@@HomeBrewNetwork Cheers for replying!! Pretty much do it same as you, no pump on during boil, just when doing 20 min hopstand!! Had to strip unit down twice to unblock pump!! Also false bottom gets caked in green hop matter, was thinking grain crush could be too fine!!

@HomeBrewNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherwarman6510 I just wonder how the hops are getting under the screen? hmmm

@christopherwarman6510

2 жыл бұрын

I'm tempted to ditch hop spider and give it another go!! Hop pellets just seem to go to fine mush small enough to get through false bottom!! But yeah, will give it another go. Cheers 🍻

@HomeBrewNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

@@christopherwarman6510 I've never seen it before on any of my 4 robo/brewzillas but I've heard some say they think their false bottom maybe raising in the boil. Could maybe try jamming it in with some silicone hose or something. Otherwise the only other way is down the recirc tube, that's happens by siphon, so when you turn off the pump you make sure the recirc hose isn't sitting in grain or floating hops etc. Good luck mate!

Is there no top plate for the grain basket?

@HomeBrewNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

Nope no top plate

Thanks for the review. Why don't you use the top plate?

@HomeBrewNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

There isn’t a top plate, unless you buy it separately, I ditched the top plates on my other units nearly immediately, I didn’t have a use for them, cheers mate

@DimpieDeBruyn

2 жыл бұрын

@@HomeBrewNetwork Those top plates makes no sense to me

@reinmetshein2694

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, the top plate would avoid the grain getting into silicon hose, and I guess it helps to divide mash water more evenly.

@kikos7741

2 жыл бұрын

I brew with g30 and I always use the top plate, according to instructions. For a 60 minutes mash I strir 3-4 times and is a mess to stop the pump, lift up top plate.... Do you ever use the g30 without top plate? I understand that you have to lift up overflow pipe and to be careful in case of stuck mash don't leave the bottom with out wort. (Sorry for my English)

Grain father… you’ve changed..!🤪

@HomeBrewNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

Only my undies, well last week I did

You can change the boil temperature in the app if you’re having trouble reaching a true boiling temp. I’m at sea level, so haven’t touched it on my G30, but I know the option is available. The larger surface area of the G40 would mean the temp would leave the wort quicker as well

@HomeBrewNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah Im at sea level too, Yesterday on the live brew it was cutting power on the ramp to boil too, which I dont think is right, just a software issue I presume, nothing an update shouldnt fix. Cheers!

That pump fail honestly scares me. You don’t want to be blowing air into post boil wort.

@HomeBrewNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

It happens with all magnetic drive pumps, but this was a weird one, just the way it happened, it hasnt happened again though. The thing is the benefits of magnetic drive pumps far out weigh the airlock problem, as big as that problem can be sometimes. The other alternatives aren't great at all. Cheers mate!

@lars3743

2 жыл бұрын

@@HomeBrewNetwork I suppose worst case you could shoot some co2 into there to keep it sanitary in case that happens after boil huh?

@HomeBrewNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

@@lars3743 yes you could, some times just a nudge if the unit will dislodge a bubble, hopefully it isn't regular, it shouldn't be, think in my brewzilla its happened twice in several years of constant use. Cheers!

Think I’ll stick with my Brewzilla…

This is going to come over like I am a know all its not meant in that way. However this has to be one of the most frustrating videos I have watched of someone brewing with a piece of kit like this. Instead of constantly stirring and poking at the grains when they are mashing why not let the system do what it is meant to do? Set the pump flow rate and leave it alone to get the job done and you would end up with a far clearer wort? Then at the boil phase . When it is ramping to the boil why not leave the lid on and let it come to a boil in the most efficient way then once at the boil start the program remove the lid and add your hops and continue the prog to the end point. I know it was your first go but you have to trust the system first then iron out faults as the come along... not try to find them before they have occurred.

@HomeBrewNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

John we all brew different ways mate, I've been using one vessel systems since they came out years ago, and for me to judge this system against my other systems I'll use it the same as I use all my others. Stirring during any mash on any system is a good thing. I will never have a lid on while ramping to the boil, one distraction and it will be boil over, especially while distracted with a "live" recording not sure you've ever done one but it adds a whole lot of distractions to the brew day, there's no going back and fixing something or doing something different, I see this on a lot of other channels, and its trickery and lies. The ramp fault has been rectified, and this is exactly what I was told to do by Grainfather, test it, look for bugs and faults. That was part of the instructions in my contract for me to receive the unit free before the release date. Anyone can throw grain in and whack the lid on and walk away, which in my experience and opinion you should never do, but less will be learnt. Cheers John!

@mariusventer6146

2 жыл бұрын

@@HomeBrewNetwork Been brewing for many years on a G30 and as John said at some point it might have been a little strange BUT as you said in response your job is to find the holes and as a newbie this video is a great learning curve. I have also had the air bubble issues on the G30 and this after some time using the system and yet it took me a while to get it going again. Wish I had seen this video before as i would have been able to shave some time and lot's of stress of my brew day. What i do now is keep a bottle of Co2 handy and whenever i need to do a blowback I just use Co2 and it works a charm. So for an experienced home brewer it might be a bit frustrating to watch but for everyone else I guess job well done including me. The PID is most certainly an issue and I guess a potential point of improvement as stated there is NO overshooting of the boil and I actually use an external element to push my wart to boiling point. Stirring between the mash cycle is a must for me in some styles but not all and I for one like the fact that I would not have to take anything out to get it done. Don't tell anyone for rear of retribution BUT i secretly brew on the G30 when doing a sticky mash without a top plate just for this reason ;) Nice vid bud and I will have to give this bad boy a go at some point. BTW I do not even know where my G30 lid is TBH. Have never used it as I hate the design with a hole in the lid. Once again our little secret please :)

This video totally convinced me not to go with this system or others like it. Do not like the integrated pump and going thru the site glass for recirculation. Lifting the grain basket and dripping all over the floor etc. I built my own 240V electric system with 3 kettles and a separate brew controller, hoses and valves. This system just does not provide enough advantages over the current system and too many things can go wrong. However maybe for someone who is just staring out with an electric system might be ok but for the cost of this product seems a bit finicky.

*** BUYER BEWARE *** If your G40/S40 craps out, like my G40 did on it's 6th brew, GF WILL NOT REPLACE YOUR FAULTY UNIT UNDER WARRANTY!!!!!! Don't buy into this hype, this company doesn't give a crap about you as a consumer. They are currently trying to fix it while it sits on my kitchen floor... not sure osmosis is what's required here... *** BUYER BEWARE ***

@Pauldh601

Жыл бұрын

Did they fix it in the end?

@globalscott5864

Жыл бұрын

Yes, they ended up replacing it... took over 3 weeks for thrm to come to the conclusion it couldn't be fixed sitting on my kitchen floor... my new unit has performed flawlessly too. Great kit, but shit support here in NZ.

Boil much quicker with the lid on fella.

@HomeBrewNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

yeah but nah, I totally get you, but the problem here is the pid control, it shouldnt be dropping % so fast. I mean todays brew it was dropping % on the way to boil, there's something just not quite right in the software, which should be an easy fix, plus the jump to 15amp would improve things immensely. cheers!

@reinmetshein2694

2 жыл бұрын

@@HomeBrewNetwork By G30, if setting boil temp 100 C, I hit some more times the "+ temp" button to avoid reducing the pid-controlled heating power before reaching target temp. Just to be sure it will heat constantly at max power until to boil. I don't know does it really matter, but my practice confirms this. Try that.

@HomeBrewNetwork

2 жыл бұрын

@@reinmetshein2694 Yeah exactly, but I dont think the pid should be cutting power on the ramp to boil, something is up there. Cheers!