Grading The 2017 NFL Draft 6 Years Later (Picks 1-16)
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Grading The 2017 NFL Draft 6 Years Later (Picks 1-16)
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Facts the Texans getting 3 great seasons from Deshaun then getting 3 1st round picks and 2 3rd round picks is definitely A+
@assassin923ck45
Жыл бұрын
I have to constantly remind myself how young deshaun is bc of how the last two years have gone. And the fact that these days he looks like he’s 35
@TTSCAM
Жыл бұрын
I will only give them a A+ if CJ Stoud works out 💯A true real franchise QB like Deshaun Waston doesn’t grow on trees ‼️
@judoka.
Жыл бұрын
@@TTSCAM you wanted them to keep him?
@waaaaaa1
Жыл бұрын
@@judoka. Ye if he never got a bunch of massages and request a trade
@judoka.
Жыл бұрын
@@waaaaaa1 but those things did happen so your statement is redundant.
A+ doesn’t seem high enough for Patrick 😂😂😂
@TerMa354
5 ай бұрын
Definitely needs a grade for the truly special. He’s S-tier class fo sho’.
@craigcampbell8560
4 ай бұрын
The Mahomes pick will go down as one of the best draft day trades and picks of all time. Remember Mike Ditka trading the Saints entire draft to move up to pick Ricky Williams? Obviously that was a complete disaster, but you can make a pretty strong case that Mahomes would actually be worth giving up an entire draft for because he's been THAT good.
@jacobmccain8082
3 ай бұрын
Man I'm still thinking of what could've been. The reason they made that trade is because the Saints WERE gonna take him at 11 lol.
@DeezerWeezer20
2 ай бұрын
Might be a A++++
These type of videos are missing on KZread and they would be huge. No one analyzes and gives draft grades on teams’ draft a year or two or three down the line - and that’s what I actually matters.
@Eli_Kahle27
Жыл бұрын
Frl!
@FootballAnalysis1
Жыл бұрын
Thank you James
I’ll never forget Stephen A Smith losing his mind that KC drafted Mahomes over Watson 😂
As an eagles fan it sucks but barnett other than the 2018 postseason has been a huge disappointment I think you giving him a c- was generous
@SnuggieMaple
Жыл бұрын
Should be a D and or D-
@PRAY_4ME
Жыл бұрын
He could do nothing for the rest of his career and it would not matter bc of the superbowl recovery but he also had a really good pressure rate in 2021 so we’ll see
@Therealtre
Жыл бұрын
@@PRAY_4ME very true I’ll always appreciate Derek for that
What’s even worse about the 49ers draft is they didn’t even scout Mahomes. They missed on both first round picks and then took CJ Beathard as their QB of the future in the 3rd round 🙃🙃
@Eli_Kahle27
Жыл бұрын
I mean thats just crazy, if the 49ers drafted Mahomes they would have at least 2 rings by now😂
@derekmathews1557
Жыл бұрын
Yeah EVERYONE slept on Mahomes; the Chiefs didn’t. This is why it pays to have a good to great front office. People who know how to scout before they draft certain players. Dorsey and Reid did an outstanding job of pulling that trade off and landing in a perfect spot to draft Mahomes.
@derekmathews1557
Жыл бұрын
@@Eli_Kahle27 , they probably would I can’t even argue with that. Mahomes with that Niners defense. Niners would have won two rings.
@Mik3yLow
Жыл бұрын
@@Eli_Kahle27 Man, I'm a Chiefs fan but there's no one in the NFC I respect more than SF. If y'all took Mahomes there's no way y'all have less than 3 rings by now
@Mik3yLow
Жыл бұрын
@@Eli_Kahle27 Shit, then again there's also a high chance his career would've been over too with the way they get injured over there lol
love your analysis of each draft, i think it’s always cool to objectively review them. can’t wait for when you cover the most recent drafts in a couple years
9:30- _I TOTALLY AGREE...👍_ The Jets for a very good amount out of him and _ABSOLUTELY_ flipped him to _Seattle_ at the _PERFECT TIME!!!_
Hello thanks for these vids it nice seeing these that are from 5+ years ago
Beautiful work,,,,,, Marlon is A+ pick , outside of a bad showing against Chase Marlon been that dude. Changed our secondary single handed
Patrick Lavon Mahomes II is a tier of his own.
@Eli_Kahle27
Жыл бұрын
Literally S+
@derekmathews1557
Жыл бұрын
Absouletely Mahomes is the only quarterback in this draft who even has anything close to a hall of fame legacy. Watson or Allen, nope.
@johnbox271
Жыл бұрын
Brett Kollman - "I have Patrick Mahomes pegged as a 4th round talent... I don't see any argument for Pat Mahomes being a 1st round pick." "Let someone else make the mistake of taking him in the top 10." 😛
@kennytoce5946
Жыл бұрын
@@johnbox271 did kollmans goofy ass really say that
@johnbox271
Жыл бұрын
@@kennytoce5946 He did, but he was hardly they only one who didn't see what Patrick Mahomes could be.
As a bears fan I will be skipping past pick number 2 for my sanity
@Eli_Kahle27
Жыл бұрын
At least u got fields
@nautgamingnautgaming9949
Жыл бұрын
@@Eli_Kahle27 if he works out but since it is the bears it won't work out somehow
In regards to the content, it’s spicy & as always thank you for it! 🙏🏻
This is great content. Thank you.
@FootballAnalysis1
4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
Deshaun watsunderthetowel😂
Ik its alot to ask but itd be really cool if youd roll out these for rounds 2 and maybe 3. Great Content keep it up and thanks for the analysis!
Great video Can you do round 2/3 of this draft
W vid the trubisky pick still gives me nightmares
@Sharkmane25
Жыл бұрын
Anyone who says Trubisky wasn’t a horrendous pick is just plain delusional
@Eli_Kahle27
Жыл бұрын
Imagine Bears got Mahomes😂
@derekmathews1557
Жыл бұрын
@@Eli_Kahle27 , well maybe it would have shut people up.
@nautgamingnautgaming9949
Жыл бұрын
@@Sharkmane25 I loved the tribisky pick I got to play against trubisky twice a year n gladly took the free wins n division titles and free nfc championship game appearances for doing almost 0 work It was fun in Lambeau to watch useless trubisky at work
Im so happy with our 10th pick lol 😂😂😂 Patty has been everything for the Chiefs and deserves a A++++++++++ grade he is on a trajectory to be the best QB ever and cant wait to see wut he does this szn! (Srry bears fans)
@derekmathews1557
Жыл бұрын
You better believe it. This guy has changed our entire franchise forever. 3 Super Bowls in 4 or 5 years, 2-1 in those games, 5 straight AFC Championship appearances, 3-2 in those games; 5 division championships. Countless records broken. 2 5000 yard seasons in 6 years. 2 MVP, 2 SB MVP, and 2 Super Bowl Champions. 5 Pro Bowls in 5 seasons. If Dee Ford doesn’t jump off insides then the Chiefs would have been in the Super Bowl 5 out of 6 years. And he would have gotten the chance to win 3 rings in 4 appearances. But that’s alright. 2-1 in 3 appearances is still pretty impressive.
@nautgamingnautgaming9949
Жыл бұрын
@Derek Mathews don't apologize to bears fans they EARNED their failure by failing to evaluate talent or their talent gets pissed off at THE TRAINWRECK of the bears n goes up north to play for my packers Any team not named the packers you are a loyal sadist because misery by default is the result of vikings bears or lions fans I don't make these rules I just read what's written down already
@einundsiebenziger5488
Жыл бұрын
... an* A+...
@corey2232
Жыл бұрын
And you can thank the Bills for passing on him & trading down 🤣
@derekmathews1557
Жыл бұрын
@@nautgamingnautgaming9949 , you are absolutely right.
With hindsight, between the two teams that traded for the pick for Mitch Trubisky, only the Bears will want a mulligan. While yes, Thomas was a bust, and the 49ers did trade away a pick to the Saints that became Alvin Kamara, but the 2018 3rd rounder they got became their "man in the middle" of their front 7: Fred Warner. Him and Nick Bosa are the core pieces of a very good front 7 for the 49ers as of 2023.
Thank you for being fair on trubisky love that guy and he doesn’t deserve the hate he gets
Love your videos man. I watch them every time you drop them.
@Eli_Kahle27
Жыл бұрын
Me too❤
I'm so disappointed Mahomes is only A+. Man is an S+++ tier heading toward GOAT tier at this point.
Very well explained
I think you should include your original draft grade alongside the current grade when you do these,
Must wait until "love you guys" :D Found it corny initially, now i cant live without it.
I think you should add a special grade like “S” grade because Patrick mahomes is beyond a A+
@Eli_Kahle27
Жыл бұрын
Frl maybe even S+
@derekmathews1557
Жыл бұрын
@@Eli_Kahle27 , you are so right
@Eli_Kahle27
Жыл бұрын
@@derekmathews1557 yea
@einundsiebenziger5488
Жыл бұрын
... an* A+
@williamallen7984
Жыл бұрын
That’s what I said-or drop everyone else a letter grade since he screwed up the curve…
These grades are bananas
Mahomes S+ grade
@Eli_Kahle27
Жыл бұрын
INFINITY GRADE😂😂😂❤️💛 Go Chiefs
I disagree with the Myles Garrett A+. As a Browns fan, I really like him, but his sacks come at times when it’s not impactful. He’ll get 4 sacks against a crappy team and then not get another one for a couple weeks. The stat sheet lies about him for sure. I think people would be crazy to think he’s better than TJ Watt in any aspect.
Kansas city should get a c+ . That Mahomes guy is kinda good
At least someone’s breaking it down… come one nfc catch up now
Where do you get your all 22 film from
Overall this was a solid draft class
Hi I love ya brah
it would've been funny if you in fact did just show an A+ with a pic of Mahomes without saying a word, then moving onto Ross
W channel btw
Giving Fournette a C grade is pure insanity.
@ethan3949
Жыл бұрын
Y it seems pretty fair to me
@bobbypinkston9374
Жыл бұрын
You have to factor in that when you use a first round pick on a running back, you are really only planning on getting five years out of him, and maybe tagging him. They got 3 good years and ZERO value in trade. Anyone would tell you using a top 10 pick on a RB that you get 3 years out of is a busy.
@ItsMeHammie
Жыл бұрын
I've noticed this channel has a grudge against Bucs players
@nautgamingnautgaming9949
Жыл бұрын
@@bobbypinkston9374 he did Singlehandedly get a terrible jaguars team to the playoffs ONCE Fournette was underwhelming but wasn't a terrible bust I got a c minus grade because he had 1 amazing year where he took what clearly was a 4 win team without fournette to the afc title game
@ethan3949
Жыл бұрын
@@nautgamingnautgaming9949 ur saying this awful jaguars team was carried single-handedly by Leonard fournette when they are infamously referred to as “Sacksonville” fournette didn’t get all their sacks for the team
6 years 😭
@Eli_Kahle27
Жыл бұрын
Feels like just yesterday😭
Mike Williams is a very good receiver the problem is injuries tbh
John Ross… kill me
@Eli_Kahle27
Жыл бұрын
He is now on the Chiefs😂
@fisherfoster6032
Жыл бұрын
@@Eli_Kahle27 probably just as a camp body. I don’t see him doing much unless he suddenly performs well out of nowhere
@Eli_Kahle27
Жыл бұрын
@@fisherfoster6032 ik but isnt it kinda funny that hes on the team🤣
As a Bear fan this is a tough watch. Always felt for the kid, he was overdrafted and mis evaluated and that's not his fault.
@fisherfoster6032
Жыл бұрын
Tbh, if the double doink didn’t happen, the bears probably wouldn’t have imploded so badly.
@nautgamingnautgaming9949
Жыл бұрын
Take it from a packers fan It can be WORSE You can be a lions or viqueens fan n be damned forever to sucking You having a once in a blue moon season is more than they'll ever have n frankly the Rex Grossman season is more than those 2 ever had in terms of success Keep in mind Detroit has NEVER won the division before too
Haven’t you given A++’s before? Edit: I checked and you haven’t, my bad. Still, it’s weird that Mahomes has two 5000 yd seasons, has never missed an AFC championship and somehow has the EXACT same grade as Deshaun, Josh Allen and Aiden Hutchinson. IMO you either need an A++ for the absolute best at a position like Mahomes, or your A+ needs to be more stringent
Browns should've taken Watson with that pick instead..i wonder if the "happy ending" scandal happens in Cleveland too? 🤔🧐
@Eli_Kahle27
Жыл бұрын
Probably not I mean u wont find any pretty masseuses in Cleveland 💀
Myles Garrett in street clothes looks like Everyman. No stress shows on his face. Myles Garrett in uniform has arms that look like they can lift houses, yet he still looks like someone who veges out in front of the TV when he comes home from work.
No way to avoid it, unlike the many many many cases
And I can't finish watching... don't need a John Ross reminder lol
@fisherfoster6032
Жыл бұрын
At least you all made up with it by getting burrow and chase, lol
Imagine being the bears and not seeing greatness in Patty😂
Just mentioning Solomon Thomas sours my mood. However, we got Fred Warner out of the picks, so I would say it’s like a C+ pick all things considered
Mitch Trubisky is the most frustrating quarterback I’ve ever watched. I’m not even a bears fan but the bears truly wasted a talented team with him being the qb. They had good skill players and a great defense when he was qb. When you factor all of that in he was awful
Biggest what if -what if Patrick Mahomes went to the bengals the NFL landscape would be completely different now 👀
@Eli_Kahle27
Жыл бұрын
Bro the bengals would have 2 rings 🥲
@derekmathews1557
Жыл бұрын
Bengals would have a couple rings but thank god he didn’t. Those fans don’t deserve somebody as classy as Mahomes
@IntroducingMrLucci
Жыл бұрын
What if C A T really spelled Dog?
Personally, I would have given Patrick Mahomes the very rare, S grade.
@DeezerWeezer20
2 ай бұрын
my fellow timberwolves fan, how we feeling about game 7?
just do an entire mahomes video
Paused the video 15 sec in and predicting in now that my Chicago Bears are going to get an F - with their first pick (FML).
You thought the 49ers would draft Mitch at #2?!? Nobody but you had that. Most Mocks were either correct in them taking Thomas, some felt that they would get their safety stud in Jamal Adams... and countless 49ers fans were rooting for the 49ers to go and get CMC as far back as when Chip Kelly was losing games and us saying "At least all this losing will get us CMC". It isn't hind sight to know that CMC was going to be a PERFECT fit in Kyle Shanahan's scheme and it was criminal that he wasn't drafted by the 49ers. At least he is where he belongs now.
Tyler Huntley made the Pro Bowl last year. Why does the Pro Bowl mean anything now
Skipped the 2nd overall pick😂😂
Bob😮
Tennessee has choked on so many 1st round picks its just embarrassing honestly.. I wonder if all the other GMs just laugh at them..
John Ross.. WhoDey. Wtf
I’d give John Ross a D-. Just due to those 7 tds
Marlon Humphrey and Marshon Lattimore with an A grade but Val Venis (Deshaun Watson) with an A+???
Mahomes should have been A++ especially if you gave Watson and Adams A+ grades
@Eli_Kahle27
Жыл бұрын
S++++ grade😂
@derekmathews1557
Жыл бұрын
That’s very true.
Its crazy that if th chiefs hadn't trade up to get mahomes he could have went to the saints
Marshon really top 2 and not 2
@derekmathews1557
Жыл бұрын
He was a pro bowl CB.
I don't know about Mahomes. He missed a whole season, he's so bad that he doesn't even look at his own players when he throws to them, and he isn't even in the top 5 highest paid quarterbacks. Plus he shouldn't have even won his pro bowl mvp, that should've been his fullback Anthony Sherman. If Mahomes was playing by himself, then he wouldn't have won any of those MVP's. His teammates very clearly carried him to those MVP awards. He should get a B+ at best.
@DeezerWeezer20
2 ай бұрын
Mahomes is a bust
Ok but if saquon was a b cmc is too
The Cardinals assessment is a little unfair, Reddick is great, they’re just a mess of an organization. They did recognize the relent though, so… And with Mahomes, man…too bad there’s nothing better than an A+ lol
Everyone missed out on mahomes and most didn’t like him except the chiefs now everyone wishes they picked him
Ok some of yall are straight glazing mahomes like "my glorious mahomesybear deserves a SSSSS+++infinity+1 ☺☺😩SHAME on you for only giving my booboo bear an A+🤬👿" like yall his grading scale caps out at A+ he's not gonna change it just for you meat riders
Mahomes should be A++
Trubisky took a garbage team to the playoffs…he has as many playoff appearances as Watson, as many or more playoff wins as Watson, Baker Mayfield, Kirk Cousins, pre-2021 Stafford, Derek Carr and Lamar Jackson. He may have been a mid tier QB with the right franchise. He torched the Chicago starters with second team in a preseason game when he was in Buffalo.
Deshaun Watson A+ on field contribution F- off the field 😤
Pretty sure Mahomes grade isn't A+ but more like iPhone A++ Pro MAX Super
Myles Garrett being the number 1 pick while not even being the best at his position from this draft makes this pick far from an A+. That grade is ridiculous, the “Almost Sack” king. And the fact they passed on Mahomes for this low character dude. This pick caps at a B and could easily be graded C+ and be accurate. No way is Myles Garrett an A+, not even close
@DeezerWeezer20
2 ай бұрын
but hes still one of the best pass rushers in the league. Id say like an A or A-
Great vid and mahomes the best
@derekmathews1557
Жыл бұрын
Yep you already know.
Watson fuccced off his career and set the Texans back 5+ years lol
Mahomes Is S or A+++
Mahomes? B-. John Ross? A.
@DeezerWeezer20
2 ай бұрын
what the?
Giving drafting Reddick a C+ and Hooker a C, and not giving the Mahomes an A++ (i.e. better than an A+ that you are giving to other guys) gives you an F.
@briangibbons7516
Жыл бұрын
Did you even listen to what he said? He grades for the value of the team that drafted him. He wasn’t great in Arizona until his last year and then they let him walk
@FootballAnalysis1
Жыл бұрын
What should Haason the Cardinal be lol
@Un1-ju2pq
Жыл бұрын
@@FootballAnalysis1Mahomes should have been an S+++
@Eli_Kahle27
Жыл бұрын
@@Un1-ju2pqinfinity grade😂❤️💛
@Eli_Kahle27
Жыл бұрын
@@FootballAnalysis1Mahomes infinity grade
How am I not even 4 minutes into the video and I've seen Daniel Jones get sacked twice? We get it. The giants o-line was bad. There has to be more impressive tape then getting a non-Daboll giants sack
@thebenmiller
Жыл бұрын
annnnnd now I'm 9:30 in and I don't think I've seen a QB not named Daniel. Jones even get sacked. That's 3.
Bro we all know the allegations against Watson were made up by the Texans after he requested a trade
@theshape5187
Жыл бұрын
Uh no
@paulweston8408
Жыл бұрын
Bro...are you high? If yes, can I have some?😶🌫️🤭
@yourdreams2440
Жыл бұрын
Coping so hard
@DerultimateKeks
Жыл бұрын
Shit almost prevented his trade. Can i have some of your herbs?
this mahomes guy sounds trash. Sure hes an A+
Myles Garrett is a thug and should have been thrown out of the league for swinging Mason Rudolph's helmet at his head. No mention of that?
as a chargers fan id honestly give mike williams a C-. For how high he was picked the production just hasnt been there. Sure hes talented but hes always hurt and his hands are mid at the very best. Very disapointing in every aspect of the game except contested catches
@derekmathews1557
Жыл бұрын
I don’t know what it is about the Chargers team, players, conditioning team they are always hurt. Every single year. As a Chiefs fan I hate playing against him because he always seems to have dynamite games against the Chiefs.
@retrobat153
Жыл бұрын
@@derekmathews1557 lol I dont wanna shit on the guy cause I really do like mike williams but he only has good games vs the chiefs. Hes kinda mid every other game other than those 2
@derekmathews1557
Жыл бұрын
@@retrobat153 I understand you know him better than I do.
@ronsilvia8127
11 ай бұрын
You clearly don't understand contested catches are all hands lmmfao 😂😂😂
I hate Patrick Mahomes
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How is deshaun an A+ and marlon humphrey isn’t? He has and will accomplish nothing in his career, and marlon is a top 3 corner. Makes no sense
@justinthegoat3948
Жыл бұрын
Marlon isn’t a top 3 cb
@MegaGhost10100
Жыл бұрын
He’s explains it’s because the Texans got three good seasons from him and when traded they got 3 first rd picks, that’s why A+
@lux5511
Жыл бұрын
This guy💀💀💀
@lux5511
Жыл бұрын
QBs a million times more valuable
@KVZY713
Жыл бұрын
@@lux5511 forgive him. He’s the slow cousin
I personally would give patrick mahomes a C. Personally as a quarterback, I would through 1 million yard bombs every play and score millions of touchdowns.. obviously mahomes is not capable of that.
@adamakemon1856
Жыл бұрын
Damn bro you’re hilarious😐
@derekmathews1557
Жыл бұрын
A C for two Super Bowls and all the success he has had since he’s been in the league. You are a special kind of dumb. Like seriously dude? A C? Mahomes dwarves beyond an A+. He took a team that hadn’t had ANY playoff success, and morphed them from a good team to an elite team.
As a bengals fan I know we could have mahomes and don’t get me wrong mahomes is absolutely the best in the league but I’m happy bengals ended up with the 2nd best QB in the league in burrow. I love he’s an Ohio guy also and just love his story. Looking forward to the rivalry for years to come
@Eli_Kahle27
Жыл бұрын
W ❤️💛
@derekmathews1557
Жыл бұрын
Yes the Bengals and the Chiefs is definitely a rivalry. Joe Burrow is the closest thing to a rivalry Patrick Mahomes got. Josh Allen is right there with them