The most comprehensive HDR10 workflow on the Web: daejeonchronicles.com/2021/03/02/comprehensive-workflow-sony-a7s-iii-s-log3-hdr-10-in-davinci-resolve-studio-17-part-i/

Thanks for the video Jon! Great work! I love your blog too. Appreciate all the work you do.

@JonPais

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks much!

Thank you. Exactly what I thought but this is the 1st video to confirm our new setup.

@JonPais

3 жыл бұрын

You’re very welcome!

@TonyAaronII

3 жыл бұрын

@@JonPais I'd like to speak to you in more detail about this. Can we video chat? I'm finishing 6 of my independently produced HDR movies right now and I want to make sure I have a complete understanding of the setup.

@JonPais

3 жыл бұрын

Great to hear! Here’s a comprehensive workflow: daejeonchronicles.com/2020/11/07/comprehensive-workflow-sony-a7s-iii-s-log3-hdr10-in-final-cut-pro-x/

Great video! I'm planning to buy the LG CX 48" once it's released for exactly this purpose. Then it's time to build some Rec2020 LUTs 😀👍

@JonPais

4 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome news. Currently, nearly all LUTs are for converting log to rec.709. Only one outfit I know of makes LUTs for HDR and some run into the hundreds of dollars! 48” would certainly be more practical than 55”.

How about Samsung qled tv or normal Sony? I'm happy with my old plasma tv for color but it's scaled down. I'm looking for a tv for shooting tether photos ? Thanks a lot.

This is great info. I was using my mac. Laptop is to small. OLED is now on my radar. It will work well with my bmpcc 4k

@JonPais

4 жыл бұрын

I think Blackmagic is on my radar!

I picked up the LG CX oled tv for grading. You don't need the additional Teranex Mini as the CX can hold LUT's internally and no need for a LUT box

@JonPais

4 жыл бұрын

Great news! Keep us up to date on how it works out.

@EdanC1

4 жыл бұрын

@@JonPais Certainly! I'm just waiting for the Ultrastudio 4K mini :)

@JonPais

4 жыл бұрын

Nice!

nice video! thanks

@JonPais

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching.

Is there any way to output hdr signal from pc and nvidia card , without decklink card?

@JonPais

4 жыл бұрын

No.

When you grade SDR, do you view your footage in rec709 gamma 2.4, do you set your reference monitor to the same setting? What about the LG CX, do you calibrate that to rec709 gamma 2.4 aswell? How did you calibrate it? Did you use hardware calibration?

@JonPais

3 жыл бұрын

For Rec.709, the reference display should be either BT.1886 or 2.4. I tried calibrating my old iMac to 2.4 using X-Rite but I don’t think it was accurate. The very best way to calibrate the LG CX is with Calman Home for LG. daejeonchronicles.com/2021/02/19/lg-2020-oled-hdr-calibration/

@VideoPine

3 жыл бұрын

@@JonPais thanks for feedback. I'm using a Eizo CG279x connected via Decklink hdmi to resolve. Project settings to Davinci YRGB rec709 gamma2.4 and the screen is set to BT.709 gamma 2.4 (factory calibration). I'm thinking of getting a 55inch LG CX to use as a client monitor.

@JonPais

3 жыл бұрын

That the Eizo has a built-in colorimeter is so great!

@VideoPine

3 жыл бұрын

@@JonPais yeah it's a good value screen. The viewing angles are better than the cg247x also in my opinion. Just have to live with the upscaling but it's not so bad, looks good. There is also a dot by dot setting if you want to see the true resolution. Works well 😊 Sorry to hear about the pro art. I was looking into that one too, but just got a bad feeling about it. Something felt off when I went to the store and look at it, didn't like the placement of the buttons and the menu system, also as you said when I compared it to the eizo monitors the uniformity and color accuracy wasn't there on the pro art. I saw those ads that Asus made with pro colorists, they must be getting paid to praise that monitor, is just a marketing tactic I guess. Well good luck, hope you find a buyer.

@JonPais

3 жыл бұрын

Lots of praise, not only from top colorists but also from Vincent Teoh of HDTVTest. Eugene Belsky creates some of the most spectacular HDR videos on YT with the discontinued PA32UC. But yeah, I disliked the ergonomics and at the time I knew of no way to calibrate it short of purchasing a USD $1,600 Teranex in Vietnam with no guarantee that it would even work. I think Calman calibration works with it now.

Are you considering using an OLED TV as a grading monitor? Let me know in the comments section. Update: The UltraStudio Monitor 3G can output 12bit 444 in REC2020 PQ with HDR metadata over SDI and HDMI all for only $115. With it you can send HDR from a MacBook out TB3 to HDMI into LG OLED TV in 1080p.

Is it possible to grade DCI P3 SDR on Lg Oled?

@JonPais

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t see why not. You might try getting in touch with Tyler Pruitt of Calman or asking the colorists over at the liftgammagain forum.

Hey Jon - what a wonderfully informative video! Since I'm falling down the rabbit hole here, there's one particular thing I'm not exactly clear on: I already have an LG 55" CX I used previously for editing on a new MacPro (without an I/O box), and am now purchasing a new C1 for color grading in FCPX. After watching this video, I understand now needing the I/O box to sidestep Mac color management . . . . I shoot all my FS7 footage in sLog3/Cine, so I get that I'm already primed for editing in HDR. But is there a case for editing in SDR otherwise? In other words, for everyday commercial video edits/projects going to social media as adverts and such, should I always/only be editing in HDR? or is there a case for editing/grading this content in SDR? and I'm guessing I would need separate profiles for each? Just trying to make sense of that reasoning. Thanks much for your help and expertise!

@JonPais

2 жыл бұрын

Unless your clients are asking for HDR, my advice would be to continue doing SDR. AFAIK, the only social media platforms that support HDR are KZread and Vimeo.

@matthewbushey9455

2 жыл бұрын

@@JonPais great! Thanks for that clarity, that’s a huge help. So other than the I/O box and Calman software for calibration, I won’t have to do any crazy configs inside FCPX or DR for SDR?

@JonPais

2 жыл бұрын

Here’s a comprehensive workflow for shooting S-Log3 and grading HDR in FCP. daejeonchronicles.com/2020/11/07/comprehensive-workflow-sony-a7s-iii-s-log3-hdr10-in-final-cut-pro-x/ For SDR, nothing crazy! hehe DR is much better for color grading HDR IMHO.

@matthewbushey9455

2 жыл бұрын

@@JonPais awesome. Thanks again! Really glad I found you and your wealth of information/experience before my purchase! 🙌🏻🙌🏻

I have a Panasonic Oled here. Don't you think there is a risk of burn in when using it for grading ?

@JonPais

3 жыл бұрын

I can’t say. No burn in on my LG OLED (yet!). I keep mine set at 120 nits and don’t leave static content on display for hours on end. I think the newer OLEDs should be less prone to burn in.

@amineelboujjoufi6306

3 жыл бұрын

Jon Pais good to Know. I’ll be cautious then. It is a very good alternative as you mention. Thanks

is the iMac screen not good to use for color grading after it has been color calibrated?

@JonPais

3 жыл бұрын

It cannot be used for grading HDR video.

@RuhkcusTV

3 жыл бұрын

@@JonPais Oh ok, I understand. Would you be aware as to if the 2019 iMac screen would be good enough in terms of accuracy after calibration to color correct and grade things like music videos/content for youtube consumption?

@JonPais

3 жыл бұрын

of course it is!

@RuhkcusTV

3 жыл бұрын

@@JonPais great!! I appreciate you taking the time to reply :)

@JonPais

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

Sorry for the extravagant question: in a low budget would you consider to get a well preserved CRT monitor for grading ? i guess it might make no sense for high depth colour material but ... no doubt about the real contrast and integrity of colour a crt can have compared to any average LCD... thanks for the oled advice, i guess one day i will afford to get some OLED... anyway soon we will leave LCD behind in a standard scale... just be careful with the OLED persistance burning issue, cheers !

@JonPais

2 жыл бұрын

According to Steve Shaw, CEO of Light Illusion, “Most CRTs will not actually hit accurate Rec709 Gamut... It's a sad fact that even today's cheap LCD screen are better when it comes to colour.”

Not surprised about your Asus. Lots of people have had issues with Asus "pro" monitors, not just this one. Seems more of a spec sheet filler than anything.

So why is the Ultrastudio 4k mini needed? I keep hearing ppl saying that need it but not why :/

@JonPais

4 жыл бұрын

In order to bypass the color management of macOS.

@MastrapaGabe

4 жыл бұрын

@@JonPais is it needed for all OS? Like if I use a windows?

@JonPais

4 жыл бұрын

You’ll need an i/o card, but I’m not familiar with Windows.

@MastrapaGabe

4 жыл бұрын

@@JonPais so even color calibrating the tv won't be enough? With like a Calman Ready and an X-Rite i1?

@JonPais

4 жыл бұрын

You’ll want to calibrate the TV for sure! But you’ll still need an i/o card AFAIK.

Using a Sony Bravia 43" Tv as a second 4K monitor using settings from this link www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x720e/settings. Does all I need at this time.

@JonPais

4 жыл бұрын

Good to hear!