What do you think of the New Upgrades and Lack of Oculink?

@StephenProvenzano

2 ай бұрын

Why in the world would they remove oculink? I think that was a crazy change and disappointing.

@Bilal.Hussain.Shaikh

2 ай бұрын

Poor choice they made, should have included Oculink, I mean it's 2024, all device's should have this Oculink ports

@soragranda

2 ай бұрын

This is a mess, sadly, definitely a downgrade. Specially for the people that already have an eGPU setup box and wanted to upgrade.

@Jrfeimst2

2 ай бұрын

No body plays Helldivers 2 on Trivial with no squad play unless you just started the game or doing a quick job for dailies. That is so misleading. Your performance will tanks hard on higher difficulties with squad play. So anyone watching this do not expect that kind of performance later on in Helldivers 2. It will be more like 40-50.

@st33ldi9ital

2 ай бұрын

It's pretty awesome tbh... kb, vrr, touch screen and pad, with game controls... it's pretty packed. oculink not that big of deal for me as would only use it as a portable device as intended.. usb4 plenty fast and good to see.

Excluding the Oculink is a strange choice given that GPD makes one of the best Oculink EGPU's. /shrug

@frankwong9486

2 ай бұрын

Maybe the oculink connector is not working that well after some plug unplug cycle ? I plan to pair with their oculink dock with new generation machine but they seems got some new plan

@nfriedly

2 ай бұрын

It will still work over USB4

@flognort

2 ай бұрын

I'm a tinkerer and love the idea of the Oculink, you could attach a dual port 10Gbe network card and turn it into a server or a router 5 years down the line. That being said I think It would be a rare usecase of the mini to actually use the oculink, if i want a dedicated GPU I would use my gaming pc. I Would however use the USB-A port WAY more often, It's so nice to be able to plug in a keyboard or mouse or usb network card w/o having to look for a dongle, even something simple like a usb stick It does feel like a downgrade to go from an 8x pcie connection to just 1 usb port, I hope the usb port is usb 10 gig at least. It makes me wonder what they are doing with those extra pcie lanes

@Day100

2 ай бұрын

​@@nfriedlyyeah but it's much slower through usb C. Some games just straight up stutter worse than without the oculink.

@maiastniki

29 күн бұрын

@@nfriedly the g1 one still works over it?

Ordered mine. Couldn't resist this time

@BinauralBae

2 ай бұрын

I'm tempted. I have the Legion Go and love it. But there's something about having a netbook form factor in this size that's really really appealing to me.

@bloonblast

2 ай бұрын

@@BinauralBae I had the legion go but returned it and got the 7840u version of the mini--I prefer it so much over the LLG

Thanks for the great review.

I’m looking forward to this one! For sure! 👍 🎉

Helldivers 2 on 720p low with over 75 fps, just 23w, is an outstanding performance!

@Sippycupman

2 ай бұрын

Yea not gone lie that is impressive … and I thought I was doing something on my legion go getting 45fps at 1200p

Gorgeous little powerhouse 🤩

Actually looks like a really solid handheld… the performance is actually amazing on that little device … doesn’t look very comfortable to hold though but other then that it looks like one of the best performing handhelds I’ve seen so far and I have a legion go and had the rog ally so I’ve seen power in a handheld already 😂 but this is top tier 🙌

Thank god it has VRR. But since the screen is the same size as my Rog Ally, which also has VRR just a weaker apu and lower memory. It’s not enough to warrant a update from my Ally. If it had a 10” screen with VRR. I would have gave it serious consideration.

I guess as most eGPU are costly a lot of people don't even bother going that route.

@markrotondella4689

2 ай бұрын

It's weird price gouging they are twice the price. It is ridiculous for a case and a data bus

@FaenzaClausen-ec5kb

2 ай бұрын

Imo, having a eGPU would add an extra layer of justification for buying a handheld. Bridges the gap between a good pc and a handheld and replaces the nedd for another dedicated pc

I’m excited to watch your video comparing this one to the 2023 version. I’m thinking about switching from an ally because of the form factor but not 100% sure yet.

Interested in the fan noise!

What is the video running on the desktop during specs read (the train window)? Is it like a dynamic wallpaper?

looking forward to the minisforum v3 tablet review from.this channel as i am planning to purchase one

VRR is an amazing update.

Any way we can see this run in depth with chimera OS? I’d like to get an in depth look at how TDP controls work and battery life running on chimera or any other steam deck os variant u think is good. Also side note been a long time follower and gotta say always love the content! Keep up the great work!

Great video eta ,where do you get those sick live wallpapers?

@Beet5090

Ай бұрын

wallpaper engine on steam

So not even gonna mention that crooked USB port?

@Nickbaldeagle02

2 ай бұрын

Probably a pre production unit. Yours will be fine.

@oxfordyazuka3739

2 ай бұрын

first thing I noticed I was like wtf is that lol

@Moes_Prep_and_Tech

2 ай бұрын

lol, I pretented not to see it

@xeros4000

2 ай бұрын

there are also rough spots on the plastic case. its probably pre-production unit.

Can you do fan noise test at both low and high tdp? Thank you

my hope is that the next version of FSR that will use AI up scaling technology, will make use of the the AI tech on these chips.

I'd use this to put in my truck and connect to my hp tuner to tune my truck and flash it.

Can you check the temperature difference between the 2023 and 2024 models. Would like to know if the cooling performance has improved

Does this have a USB-C port that supports DP-Alt Out (for e.g. Xreal Air glasses)? I see one of the USB-C ports is labeled USB 4 with 40Gbps so I'm guessing yes...

@cheeeeezewizzz

2 ай бұрын

both of the usb c support it

@cheeeeezewizzz

2 ай бұрын

in fact you can use two pairs at the same time.

@TiagoPontes

Ай бұрын

@@cheeeeezewizzz are you certain.. as in you've tried it? thanks ahead

Could of used an MCIO port instead. That goes up to PCIE Gen 6. Plus it's a far more robust port as well.

I ordered this on day one faster than any other device. Excited to test this one out.

@asmrnaturecat984

2 ай бұрын

Excited to see ur review my man

@BarelyAverageDude

2 ай бұрын

@@asmrnaturecat984it’ll probably be Barely Average, but I’ll try not to disappoint 🫡😅 Thanks

@IlIilLlIlILIliLIIiLIlI

2 ай бұрын

same

@BarelyAverageDude

2 ай бұрын

@@asmrnaturecat984it’ll be *barely average* as usual. 👍🏽😅 Appreciate your support

how about the Odin 2 seems like the battery life on that device is great

One thing i suggest adding is where the FCLK and MCLK run during testing. It doesnt seem as critical as it did with Zen2/3 APUs, but it does affect performance. Two different APUs both with 7500MT/s RAM could see a noticable performance difference if one has its MCLK at 2:1 and FCLK at 4:1 and the other runs in 1:1 and 2:1 respectively. As an example, with 16GB of RAM i have a 35w mini PC that runs in 1:1 MCLK and 2:1 FCLK with 6400 RAM, but my handheld has 7500MT/s in 1:1 MCLK but 4:1 FCLK and while yes part of the reason it is slower is that it is 30w instead of 35w, but it is still slower if i manually shift power from the CPU to the GPU ending up with the handheld GPU running faster than the miniPC *Edit, i dont think you need to talk about it much, just a little extra line on the spec slide screen.*

@etaprime any idea if GPD has patched the BIOS on this and other devices for the LOGOFail vulnerability? Or if this is a non issue for GPD drvices?

Love your videos! I watch everything you release and being a tech nerd I love the way you break things down and list all the options available for each review you have done. Been subscribed for quite a while now and keep posting these great reviews!

Slightly off-topic. I just purchased an 8-inch mini laptop from Aliexpress. The display is on a pivot, so you can rotate it backward, and then fold it so it becomes a touch tablet. The processor is an N100, so not for triple-A gaming. I plan on using it for KZread and emulation gaming. Also, for music after I pair a Bluetooth speaker to it.

@gregorypaul0

2 ай бұрын

how much did that cost?

@Zoyx

2 ай бұрын

@@gregorypaul0 - $340 US. I got the 512 GB SSD option.

@Zoyx

2 ай бұрын

@@gregorypaul0 - I paid $340 US for the 512 GB SSD version.

@manonamission2000

2 ай бұрын

url or more deets pls?

@Zoyx

2 ай бұрын

@@manonamission2000 - KZread doesn't allow URLs in comments. This is the description in AliExpress: "12th Gen Mini Gaming Laptop Intel Alder Lake N100 8 Inch Touch Screen 12G DDR5 Windows 11 Notebook Tablet PC 2 in 1 WiFi6" Not really a "gaming" laptop.

I wait for Thunderbolt 5 for my next hand held devices.

@dzibanart8521

2 ай бұрын

yes, all the benefits of Oculink, none of the drawbacks.

@Nickbaldeagle02

2 ай бұрын

I wait for Thunderbolt ⚡ 6.

@EnochGitongaKimathi

2 ай бұрын

Dual Thunderbolt 5 ports would be great. There is a feature I saw demoted called Thunderbolt Share, I'd love to see implemented

@ps3guy22

2 ай бұрын

Thunderbolt 5 specs are pretty nuts

@ainran

2 ай бұрын

Won't thunderbolt take a while to get to AMD ? Perhaps we would be more likely see USB4 v2 first ?

PlayStation 3 emulation test please 😁

I have one ordered. Happy I waited. Would never use OCULink anyway. USB 3.0 is useful to have. I understand the disappointment if you don't have a gaming rig too.

Cool factor is insane 😎 I like GPD's 10-inch Max a little better. Kindest regards, neighbours and friends.

why did they remove oculink?? dumb decision - put the full size usb somewhere else, like on the side

How does this CPU run the android emulators? Like LDPlayer/ Bluestacks?

Whose hands are those in the thumbnail?😁

for the screen, is that mean they fixed the resolution issue naturally? Becasue each time when reinstall the OS, we need to install the patch which sometimes cause screen glitching

@liviup6660

2 ай бұрын

Yes is native landscape. Means any older games will just run. Everything you try on it starts in landscape. That's the best part. Super for older games.👌

Always wondering where ETA gets that scrolling train live wallpaper for almost a year now. Anybody have an idea?

1:18 The usb-A port seems to be crooked. Looks like GPD still has some quality control issues

13 inch Asus ACRNM RMT02 with rtx 4070, 32gb, 2tb and joycons with joyclamp adapters 🥇

I am hella tempted between this and the lenovo

Would you say it out does the ally then?

gettin this and the minisforum ms 1 as i alreadyy have a single slot gpu and random ssds i pulled from old computers. will use the m1 as a datacenter/3d station and the mini will play games/music etc not much will be stored on it itself unless copied from the m1

The best thing about these new releases is they cause the price of the older models to drop and become more justifiable

Is the performance upgrade from the 7840u model worth, or should i stick with the 7840u one ?

@bandzzman1224

2 ай бұрын

If I where u I’d get the one with the VRR screen.

@Zanfire11

2 ай бұрын

Difference between 7840U and 8840U is negligible. Maybe 5%

They should seriously bring back the Pocket line of laptops with one of those new Ryzen APUs albeit at a lower TDP and a small, sleek form factor.

lol could you start up ableton? i've been building a new stage rig, and wondered if other people are using handhelds. right now i have a SD-LCD running windows(GASP!) and so far ableton and other audio software load up and run well, but having only one port is killing me. this is a promising alternative.

@BrunodeSouzaLino

2 ай бұрын

Of course you can open Ableton. This thing has a 8c/16t cpu.

@TheJonOsborne

Ай бұрын

Have you thought of getting a USB C hub with multiple USB outs?

How is performance when plugged in?

@ryansarkinian7196

2 ай бұрын

Considerable improvement, from my experience. If I had to guess, I'd say about 20-30% increase in fps.

I'd love to see a more taxing game like Destiny 2 on this thing.

wish u showed the ssd temp. mine goes to 95c on load

as a handheld i think it’s definitely overpriced, but this is basically the only thumb keyboard clamshell UMPC on the market, so i snagged it. it looks so far so good

I feel sorry for the GPD series as their sales have drastically fallen ever since the release of other handhelds.

@ROCKSTAR3291

2 ай бұрын

Yeah, GPD was the OG way back in 2016 when no one was making portable gaming PCs, but since this market blew up, they can't compete with the big companies like Asus, and there are more choices now from other Chinese companies too

@SougoUltimateSadist

2 ай бұрын

well their price arent exacly for majority to get, looked the price of this model seen in video and its whooping 1000 euros +, thats too much like 400 too much

@LearningToThrive

2 ай бұрын

All they have to do is try a different layout with an interface.

@ShadeSlayer1911

2 ай бұрын

It's a shame too, I like the concept. I just can't afford their stuff. I also currently have no practical use for their stuff.

@liviup6660

2 ай бұрын

@@ShadeSlayer1911i have the mini 2023 and is amazing. You can literally pocket it and off you go.👌

The removal of the OcuLink port was brain backwards.

Would you be able to add Cities: Skylines 2 to the list of games tested? I'd be damn impressed if an APU can run that mess of a game.

Nice 👍

Whats the name of those wallpaper

Why dont you list the price $ with the specs?

I might honestly sell my 2023 model and buy this one. I dont care about the screen or new apu, Ill drop a few hundred bucks just to get that USB-A port

You know ETA always means business and the thing he’s reviewing is worth paying attention to when he paints his nails for the occasion😉

When will the Minisforum V3 be available in the US?

@lealwai3517

2 ай бұрын

End of April

@sirnate54

2 ай бұрын

@@lealwai3517 I would like to see the review of this.

Im the most basic a gamer can get. I play COD, rocket league, Halo.. the usuals. I want to know how those joysticks handle playing AAA titles? Am I compromising using this little form factor with the recessed joysticks? I've got a ROG ally, and if I could bring its controls to THIS form factor, I'd do it in a heartbeat

@FS-zt6tm

Ай бұрын

you can put switch thumbgrips on them, they fit perfectly. I use the Skull&Co raised ones and they definitely make them a lot better. Without thumbgrips, I can see someone who's used to regular joysticks would hate the recessed thumbsticks

perfection. I wish I have thecash to throw.

It will be a donor of bios data to get ROG ALLY upgraded to 64GB. As I know there where no devices with this type of memory and 64GB capacity, so waiting for such upgrades videos

Folks who bought SONY Vaio back in early 2000s would buy this... it's the form factor that gets ya

Wish it had some hdmi ports

Does GDP make something bigger than this that is more powerful?

man, i need this. but its so expensive :(

Pricey boy... it's a good product.. I'm just poor af.. so imma stay with my deck LED..

@michaelthompson7217

2 ай бұрын

this is kinda just a toy… deck is a must have, cant go wrong

@tremor6160

2 ай бұрын

This is way more powerful than a steamdeck.

love your videos keep up the good work and can you please add " World of Tanks " to your set of testing games

Occulink is cool but, honestly, USB-A is more useful. I'm thinking about selling my 2023 edition and upgrading to one of these.

@cheeeeezewizzz

2 ай бұрын

Same. I hate occulink. Stupid useless port. I'll sell mine and upgrade to this one just to get the USB-A

I want a Lin Mini.

I'm hoping everyone else in the handheld gaming pc space takes notes with the screen for their next revisions. Would love to see something like an Orange Pi Neo+ or OneXFly+ with the VRR display. Disappointed to see GPDWin omit the OcuLink port this time. Been waiting for a handheld to include it in a form factor like the aforementioned PCs with a 7" VRR display. Would love to have something to replace my Laptop and Nintendo Switch when Traveling and be able to use an OcuLink eGPU for those more graphically intensive games.

Bought it as soon as I saw the ROG Ally screen is being used, then the removal of oculink to usb A is just icing on the cake.

I would like to know what it can do at 28w in all these games

@Nickbaldeagle02

2 ай бұрын

It can drain battery. Fast.

@ryansarkinian7196

2 ай бұрын

The performance difference between 20 and 28 watts is minimal and not worth increasing the TDP, imo.

Wait horizon zero dawn 720p low just 45 fps???? I'm sorry but legion go with z1 extreme does 60 fps 20 watts on 1200p resolution. Is there a problem perhaps with the device?

@yasirrakhurrafat1142

2 ай бұрын

Maybe tdp was set to lower ? Z1 e is indeed amazing though.

yeah no thanks, the lack of oculink is a killer, good video though

Can it run ai software that requires gpu

I hate the fact my mini has an occulink port instead of a usb port.

This is Sony Xperia Mini Pro on steroids

For all the devices that support oculink, how many ever actually use it?

@cheeeeezewizzz

2 ай бұрын

Nobody, and every thread is full of people begging for the USB-A port back.

@Bakakuroicat

2 ай бұрын

@@cheeeeezewizzz I'm happy using win4 oculink with 4070 egpu tho.

I think the performance of Helldivers 2 alone has me hooked. Gotta spread democracy on the go!

Love the idea hate the price, asus, lenovo, and msi really need to take notes from GPD and offer more options in best buy

@daspotjoel

2 ай бұрын

MSI has bigger fish to fry rn lol. But true

It should be compared to ayaneo flip

Did they solve boot and pluging egpu issues ?

@Nickbaldeagle02

2 ай бұрын

Yes. They removed to oculink port.

How is a Linux distro on it?

@manonamission2000

2 ай бұрын

worth having someone review usb Linux bootloaders on this thing

Someone needs to bring this to Brazil. Importar pelo Aliexpress fica muito caro :[

There currently is no 64gb model

Odd question.. can I hook a mouse to this? Haha

Was interested with occulink.

Price is way out of my budget lmao, I'd rather get a ROG Ally or Legion Go

Shut up and take my money! :D

I would really like it if you could do some benchmark testing on LLMs. I'm actually interested in what size models the maxed out 64gb version would be able to run. Please!

No mention of the heat situation?

@ryansarkinian7196

2 ай бұрын

Compared to the 2023 edition, the 2024 Mini runs ~5C cooler, on average, due to the removal of the Oculink and other thermal engineering optimizations.

@RolandDobbins

2 ай бұрын

@@ryansarkinian7196 - how do you know this?

Ehhhhhhhhh waiting for Strix Point

By the time someone buys this they won’t have enough left over for a EGPU so it doesn’t even make a difference lol

device looks awesome

Why making suggestions about screen? Just use any diagnostic software to check

It really sucks that this device is so awesome, because I don't have the money to buy it!

that wonky usb A port kinda off putting lol