Roy Cohn had the deadest eyes I've ever seen.

@wlhansen2068

4 ай бұрын

I was thinking the same watching this. They reflect that empty,evil soul he had. He must have gone straight to hell when he died

@cindymaceda2999

4 ай бұрын

@@wlhansen2068😂 LOL. This brings to mind what Gore Vidal said in a Live interview, when the interviewer, expecting a reaction, mentioned that William F. Buckley had just passed away. Vidal said, matter-of-factly, “Well he’s not going to like Hell.”😊

@marcelladillard3556

Ай бұрын

That's because he was possessed.

@Valelacerte

5 күн бұрын

Maybe, but Roy Cohn was right. McCarthy was posthumously vindicated, by defecting KGB officers and recovered Soviet archives, in his claims that key positions in US government, institutions and industries had and were being infiltrated by communist agents. Even the FBI were trying to warn the President that his secretary was a communist agent. Gore Vidal's lazy, pompous, and absolute dismissal of this is what tells you that he, and not Cohn, is the liar and propagandist. Communists always have to destroy their enemies totally. It is not enough to debunk their arguments; they must destroy them reputationally, financially, and spiritually. The smear campaign against McCarthy and Cohn was total and merciless; neither could be seen as having even one redeeming quality. I'm afraid that much of recorded 20th century history is highly revised and serves an agenda other than the sincere pursuit of truth.

Two high powered queens 👸

@irocitZ

Жыл бұрын

Haha, you ain't kidding..

@Gottenhimfella

Жыл бұрын

One of them a closet queen, a poisonous, thug-enabling toad... and a mentor to the worst President the US has ever had ... and hopefully, ever will.

I admired Gore Vidal's courage in speaking openly about what he knew & who he was.

@DBEdwards

Жыл бұрын

Indeed. Gore was a patient man and fair one.

@DBEdwards

Жыл бұрын

Damn right and so do I to this day

@arriuscalpurniuspiso

11 ай бұрын

Gore was a man. Roy was a fake weasel

@oilyshoes9969

10 ай бұрын

His favorite topic was himself

Vidal’s parting words: “Roy Cohn has stayed out of jail all these years & I’d like to hire him as my lawyer.” Cohn is Drumpf’s role model.

@johnzimpelman9018

2 ай бұрын

Trump's role models are Putin, Erdogan, Xi, Orban, and other authoritarian leaders. Cohn was Trump's mentor which is why Trump uses disinformation, the aggrieved victimized narrative, bullying, jury tampering, and threats of violence.

Cohn: The man who taught Donald Trump the art of GRIFTING.

The implied gay accusations that go back and forth are hysterical and delicious. "It's aroused by the obvious" Chef's kiss.

@tommym321

Жыл бұрын

I laughed out loud at that. Whatever you think of Vidal, you can’t deny he had wit.

@arriuscalpurniuspiso

11 ай бұрын

Cohn died of AIDS

@jeffcrocker1078

6 ай бұрын

I comprehend everything you said I could never have composed that so brilliantly so fucking hillarious

@jeffcrocker1078

6 ай бұрын

Gore Vidal’s mannerisms are at an SCTV level like Rick moranis or Eugene levy is playing him

@alainriviere7950

4 ай бұрын

Bill Boggs interviewing 2 gay guys with different viewpoints. Terrific.

I love how Roy Cohn never looks over at Gore Vidal.

@julianparks8485

8 күн бұрын

But he does.

19:47 Cohn says he didn't know that Vidal was going to be on, but 7 minutes earlier he pulled a collection of Vidal quotes out of his pocket which ''somebody gave to me this morning'' - evidence of a set-up which the presenter was at pains to deny?

@xs10tl1

3 жыл бұрын

The entire interview was a setup. It was like an early version of Jerry Springer.

@WindTurbineSyndrome

Жыл бұрын

Roy Cohn did not walk into that stage not knowing Gore Vidal would be there he would have had his spies tell him who he would be on stage with him.

@dougtaylor2803

5 ай бұрын

Not how I interpret the situation. From what Vidal said, it sounds like he was aware that Cohn would be there, but not just him. In other words, it would not be a debate between Vidal and Cohn, therefore not necessary to prepare for a debate. Cohn, being a lawyer and combative by nature and trade, would have prepared notes in Vidal in case challenged by him. As a good boy scout, Cohn obeyed the mantra, to always be prepared. :)

Roy always looked like a villain like his face was made in a special effects department

@jordanmascarenhas7974

Жыл бұрын

Don’t be a racist anti-Semite

@newgenerationtechnology2930

Жыл бұрын

@@jordanmascarenhas7974 lol dude shut up

@newgenerationtechnology2930

Жыл бұрын

@@jordanmascarenhas7974 i said nothing about him being a jew carry on

@WindTurbineSyndrome

Жыл бұрын

His face was ruined not that he would ever be accused of being handsome but his mother insisted on plastic surgery on his nose as a newborn and he lived with scar his whole life.

@roughhabit6496

Жыл бұрын

The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances….

I didn’t know that Will Ferrell was a journalist in the 70s

@WestIndianAK

3 жыл бұрын

Sure you did. Didn't you see "Anchorman"? ;)

@rebeccamueller7564

3 жыл бұрын

EXACTLY what I was thinking. :)

@mordecaiesther3591

3 жыл бұрын

Roy Cohn was the best . So proud of him .

@sherirobinson5112

3 жыл бұрын

🤣

@davidean970

3 жыл бұрын

I had to do a double-take too.

Cohn reminds me of Stephan Miller.

@MrDan11422

3 жыл бұрын

A performance of a liar. Blame, distort, and double down. Notice how Roy starts off calling others of lying. Then distort the word communist to fit anyone who he does not like. Then never backs down. Trump used the same tactics, only foolish people bought what he sold.

@hughmac13

3 жыл бұрын

Well spotted. I wouldn't be surprised if Cohn had served as, and remains, one of Miller's primary role models.

@mannysanguena7900

3 жыл бұрын

Now you understand how Stephen Miller's character was appreciated by Donald Trump.

@uwsgrrrl9981

3 жыл бұрын

He’s worse!

@glossypots

3 жыл бұрын

Stephen Miller reminds me of Goebbels

Gore Vidal: ‘-since Roy Cohn is one of the greatest living defenders in and out of court, not only of Joseph McCarthy, but of Roy Cohn-‘ 🤣

@juanitamora4857

3 жыл бұрын

That's the only truth gore vidal said. As it should be!!! You defend yourself 1st and then your clients, gore did the same thing!!! He defended himself 1st

@JoeMama-dy6op

Жыл бұрын

Gore Videl was a prissy little queen.

@JohnB-dr8sk

Жыл бұрын

Roy Cohn and McCarthy were proven 100% by the Venona Transcripts and the Mitrokhin Archive release in the 1990s, so Vidal's responses now look dated and backwards.

@ianbanks2844

Жыл бұрын

@Joe Mama as was Roy Cohn who died of aids that he acquired with his homosexual activities . And yet publicly he slated gay people . What a liar he was .

@roystonmason9125

11 ай бұрын

McCarthy was also CLOSETED and LOVED LADIES PANTIES ! HEY mary

"The nicest thing that I have ever heard about Senator McCarthy, told to me by Senator Flanders, was he was a full time homosexual" Gore Vidal was such a savage

@tommym321

3 жыл бұрын

I love when he says “Well I’ll get to you in a minute”. 🤣

@methaqualone5191

3 жыл бұрын

This clip was in the documentary 'Where's My Roy Cohn?' I had never heard of Midday before but came to KZread to see if I could find the entire episode. Through Roy Cohn's whole life people would come right out and ask if he was a homosexual/ if he was dying of AIDS, and he always denied it of course.

@subversivelysurreal3645

3 жыл бұрын

@@methaqualone5191 i saw that, and rented it, but got more, really, about Roy Cohn from DemNow in 2016, w/Trump and Wayne Barrett. in 2011, my parents refused me their computer, but i bought the first IPad, ,and still, just got had HBO as a gift, and so obviously screwed up as Bill Maher was abt Islam, this woman named Amy Goodman was a guest, and boom...via ‘on demand’, i double checked and heard : DemocracyNow. so i’ll always be grateful, for him because of #DemocracyNow, with which i STILL start the day.

@BGNOLA

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the left would imply McCarthy was gay based on the "evidence" that he was in his 40s before he got married.

@brianwalsh1401

2 жыл бұрын

@Ross Smith He was willing to do whatever it took to stay in power and be relevant and being a narcissist or a sociopath had no qualms about doing whatever he thought that would take regardless of whose life he destroyed. Just like our former president.

Credits to the shows producer who managed to sneak both highly eloquent guests, yet mortal enemies, into the same studio, unbeknownst to each other, resulting in a modern day verbal joust.

Remember, Roy Cohn taught Trump everything he needed to know on how to handle the media and his legal affairs. As for Gore Vidal, I wish I had listened more closely to him years ago. His historical knowledge concerning the political and social movements in our country are unparalleled.

@meandmymonkey5137

3 жыл бұрын

He dident teach trump crapp. He just took his money and kept him out of trouble .

@BGNOLA

3 жыл бұрын

"Roy Cohn taught Trump everything he needed to know"? Oh how I wish.

@xs10tl1

3 жыл бұрын

Vidal had historical knowledge but piss-poor judgement. Such as lying about the Cuban people being better off. Hindsight has proven nearly all of his statements to be wrong. He was also part of the wave to end the Electoral College....the mating call of Totalitarians.

@jimcima

3 жыл бұрын

@@xs10tl1 The Cuban people aren't better off because of an unrelenting 60 year campaign of crippling economic sanctions, murder plots against their leadership and numerous attempted coups by the United States.

@rickb3650

3 жыл бұрын

@@xs10tl1 Do you think that Fidel and Che threw the Gangsters and Fascists of the island by themselves? Despite over 60 years of unrelenting pressure from the world's most powerful nation, as Hello It's Me mentions, that tiny island with a population smaller than several American cities has no homeless people. Has a near 100% literacy rate. And produces more Doctors than the U.S., every year. In fact, what problems Cuba does have are the direct result of our nation's policies to deprive and destabilize their people and the government they chose.

"and that little boy whom nobody liked turned out to be Roy Cohn"

@ileanasantamaria2364

3 жыл бұрын

Including and especially his mother, it appears.

@erc9468

3 жыл бұрын

I like him alot - he makes a great argument about the reality of the danger of Communism and how it was important to acknowledge it.

@frankgarrett242

3 жыл бұрын

WOW!

@jamespardue3055

3 жыл бұрын

or Stephen Miller

@arndbrack2339

3 жыл бұрын

@@jamespardue3055 thank you

"Roy Cohn is a personal friend of mine and a helluva nice guy" - Thanos

@richmrstonestone

3 ай бұрын

Nothing wrong with Roy. He at least embraced success and American/ European values, while most in his community hated the successful, trying to lead violence and theft/redistribution schemes ( leftist , Frankfort school, Democracy Now ..)

@paulissus8974

24 күн бұрын

Liar!

This video is so amazing and rare in 2022. America is BRAIN DEAD now

@ter521fad

Жыл бұрын

Of course America is brain dead. That’s the America the owners of this country want. A nation of conformist consumers who are more than happy to just pay their rising taxes and shut the hell up and not question anything their government does. The government they’re paying for. A brain dead America is what the country’s owners want and they got it. They got it a long time ago.

@Albo96286

10 ай бұрын

Boy do i wish Gore Vidal were around these last 7 yrs.

What a great interview! Look how two bitter enemies were able to debate each other in a civil manner.

@62Cristoforo

3 жыл бұрын

Imagine a similar debate today with Sarah Palin and Bill Maher. The fur would fly.

@bernardliu8526

3 жыл бұрын

@@esltogo6898 Palin was, and is, a cretin !

@brianwalsh1401

2 жыл бұрын

@@62Cristoforo Why in, gods name, would you use Palin. She is not in any manner an intellectual. I think Maher's pretty smart how about put him up against Roger Stone who is a lot like Roy Cohn.

@brandoncrusen9160

2 жыл бұрын

Look at how Cohn's lies and dishonesty survive. Why are some men able to make their way with utter dishonesty and corruption? Why was Cohn not in prison?

@roughhabit9085

2 жыл бұрын

@ Brian Walsh . No I think when you graduate top of your class and are still too young for your Bar examination, that you might have a bit more intellectual clout than a PR man.

Two fascinating historical characters! Thank you Bill. Hope for more like this!

@pool2587

Жыл бұрын

I wish

@Chris-is6xb

Жыл бұрын

Fascinating? RC was a genuine piece of excrement.

@JohnB-dr8sk

Жыл бұрын

Roy Cohn and McCarthy were proven 100% by the Venona Transcripts and the Mitrokhin Archive release in the 1990s, so this was an especially interesting interview!

Great interview of two exsplosive characters! Thanks

Great interview, Thanks 😷

Slagging and trolling at a high intellectual level. This interview took place in 1977. Of course, it was the decade of great boxing matches. It fits right in

@robertortiz-wilson1588

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the date!

Cohn looks necrotic in every photo.

I admire him for “staying out of jail all these years”. What a fantastic put down. It just about sums up my feelings about his boy Trump.

@jordanmascarenhas7974

Жыл бұрын

Wait til your boy Hunter goes to jail

@sueelliott8085

Жыл бұрын

@@jordanmascarenhas7974 What has Hunter Biden got to do with anything. He is a private citizen and has absolutely nothing to do with me. Trump has 40+ legal cases pending and growing. He has been banned from ever owning a charity, and likely to be banned from doing business in New York. He is being investigated under the Espionage Act ,and for Sedition. He keeps losing case after case in a Conservative Supreme Court, yet out of a population of 326m he is the person you chose to give the power of the immense power of the Presidency.

@terri6854

3 ай бұрын

@jordanmascarenhas7974 Ha! Your corny comment aged like milk. Russian spy now arrested for feeding false info to fbi and gop.

Roy Cohn couldn't look at Vidal while he was arguing because he was threatened by him

@iadorenewyork1

2 жыл бұрын

Cohn never quite looked directly at people, I noticed.

@MrUndersolo

Жыл бұрын

Or turned on.

@roughhabit6496

Жыл бұрын

And yet Cohn was ten times better connected. Go figure.

@JohnB-dr8sk

Жыл бұрын

Actually, history made Vidal Gore out to be the fool. Roy Cohn and McCarthy were proven 100% by the Venona Transcripts and the Mitrokhin Archive release in the 1990s, so Vidal's responses now look dated and backwards, not superior.

@arriuscalpurniuspiso

11 ай бұрын

Roy met his superior in Gore Vidal

Great debate💜♥️ thank you all

Cohn : I know that that (homosexuality) is your favorite topic of conversation. Vidal: -it’s aroused by the obvious.

@paulscottfilms

3 жыл бұрын

haha Cohn is brilliant

@barbdanalfaro8039

3 жыл бұрын

@Ross Smith QA

@beccadabeast5013

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulscottfilms Cohn just about drank himself to death after contracting AIDS. brilliant..indeed. 🙄

@dg1006

3 жыл бұрын

@smith simon Both, sadly Cohn was self hating which at the time was common.

@SuperGuanine

3 жыл бұрын

@@beccadabeast5013 when did Cohn contract AIDS?

Gore Vidal was an underappreciated national treasure.

@joedeangelis4528

Жыл бұрын

In the book Losing Mum and Pup: A Memoir, Christopher Buckley wrote about a letter he received from Vidal soon after his dad passed away. Vidal had written that he was overjoyed that his father had died.

@jordanmascarenhas7974

Жыл бұрын

National treasure to USSR

@JohnB-dr8sk

Жыл бұрын

Actually, history made Vidal Gore out to be a fool. Roy Cohn and McCarthy were proven 100% by the Venona Transcripts and the Mitrokhin Archive release in the 1990s, so Vidal's responses now look dated and backwards, not superior.

@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366

4 ай бұрын

@@jordanmascarenhas7974 he didn't want our kids getting slaughtered fighting it in foreign countries if that is what you mean. He wasn't a communism himself.

I was 12 when this happened. It's nice to watch Gore Vidal as an adult. I actually have several photographs with him in them from old Peace and Freedom Party gatherings in and around Venice, Ca. My aunt took them.

Cohn defends McCarthy AND Caligula!

@Z0Dll

3 жыл бұрын

Caligula was actually a genius. Mccarthy was right more than half the time wich is more than the average poilitician. Cohn vindicated.

@subversivelysurreal3645

3 жыл бұрын

Roy Cohn WAS Caligula...he underestimated himself.

@martinhanley9524

3 жыл бұрын

McCarthy was right - look at Covid (leaked from a Communist laboratory ) and the censorship that is occurring and ‘woke / cancel culture ‘ . And for me to exercise this opinion could be prosecuted by fifth columners as Omar Talib - Yes - McCarthy had his faults but he was right about Communism and the Risenbergs ! I’ll let you get back to NPR and the NYTimes now ! 🙄

@paulscottfilms

3 жыл бұрын

No zombie, Caligula not defended, go and watch some TV

@beccadabeast5013

3 жыл бұрын

@@martinhanley9524 Really? Covid was "leaked" from a commie lab? 🙄 You're leaving that ignorant comment on social media in the 21st century? Good grief. America prays you grow a free, critical thinking brain. Sooner rather than later. 🤣😂

Roy Cohen does make a valid point in this debate, After the fall of the Soviet Union, scholars were allowed to peruse the archives of that era, and one of the more interesting findings was that the Communist Party of the USSR directly funded the US Communist Party. So yeah, there was some Soviet "meddling" in internal US affairs during the Cold War, though obviously not to the extent of Russian meddling in the 2016 and 2020 US elections.

Great how they are very polite to one another

It is sad that it was more civilized conversations in those days than today.

@brianwalsh1401

2 жыл бұрын

Mostly because of the republicans always getting loud and talking over and keep sticking ti their fox news talking points and trying to win instead of an intelligent conversation. Same thing with leftist who won't allow the right wing to speak and shouting them down like we see at some colleges.

@user-ARK1547

3 ай бұрын

Intelligence levels and society has changed with the Dumbing down of America ( book by Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt ) also With the subversions that have taken place along the way from 1949 to date.

@marcelladillard3556

Ай бұрын

Evil under the veneer of civility (kind of). These wordsmiths are weilding machetes at each other.

Both men were slippery eels. Both spoke a certain amount of truth.

Vidal is excellent here.

Where the hell are these intellectual, intelligent, and informational sources of debate now? So disappointing that the public has no access to this on television.

@robertwiles8106

Жыл бұрын

They are too busy twerking.😂

@roystonmason9125

11 ай бұрын

Miserable nothing even close in todays sheltered red / blue society

Roy has all the allure of Count Dracula.

@paulscottfilms

3 жыл бұрын

whats the matter with you. maybe a simpleton.

@gomezaddams4347

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulscottfilms If you don’t know how evil Cohn was, you have no business calling anyone else a simpleton. If you do know and it doesn’t bother you then you’re a scumbag. Either way, you lose.

@tapptom

3 жыл бұрын

Dracula infected with the last stage of HIV. Same one that said he was sexually attracted to Trump. Remember he had that boyfriend that got drafted and looked exactly like Trump

@Not-Ap

2 жыл бұрын

And 10x the power.

@roughhabit9085

2 жыл бұрын

Could you envisage yourself as one of his concubines?

I am awed by the IQ of both men !

Roy Cohn: "I think Mr. VIdal has lapsed into an uncharacteristic modesty ..."😂

@robertortiz-wilson1588

Жыл бұрын

Hehehe

"Roy Cohn has managed to stay out of jail all these years, and I admire him for that, and I'd like to have him as my lawyer." Gore Vidal sums up Trump's fixer from the early days. "Better call Roy."

@DBEdwards

Жыл бұрын

Beautiful. You are SO VERY RIGHT. The apple falls always close to the tree

@DBEdwards

Жыл бұрын

Brillant commentary beyond words. Good quote you made.

@JohnB-dr8sk

Жыл бұрын

Uh, no. Cohn and McCarthy were proven 100% by the Venona Transcripts and the Mitrokhin Archive release. So he was totally vindicated by history.

@ronagoodwell2709

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnB-dr8sk Ah, Roy Cohn Jr. weighs in.

@JohnB-dr8sk

Жыл бұрын

@@ronagoodwell2709 Anyone opposed to Communism is a "Roy Jr" to you comrade. Just so everyone here knows, all of these Marxist commenters here that hate Roy Cohn are planning to genocide half the country if they ever get full power. We know this from FBI informant Larry Grathwold's testimony to Congress in the 1970s about the Weather Underground. Bill Ayers and his cohorts were working directly with the CCP and the Soviet Union and talked openly about genociding 30 million Americans who opposed the world revolution. Larry Grathwold was praised by President Jimmy Carter and Democrats in Congress after his testimony. Roy Cohn is hated because he helped expose the world revolution here in America. It has nothing to do with anything else that he did. I am old and terminally ill with not much time to live, so thankfully, I won't be alive after these monsters attempt this great evil. But I leave this as a warning to others who will be alive who are trying to understand what is happening. You are all in grave danger if these maniacs aren't stopped....

"And that little boy that nobody liked… grew up to be… Roy Cohn. And now you know the rest of the story." - The Simpsons, parodying Paul Harvey.

@krimskrams

3 ай бұрын

I remember that and I always wondered who they were referring to. now that I recognized the name in this clip, I must say, that if he was a man to be made fun of, he still came across as more likable and intelligent than the shitshow we have now. the art of the dialogue is lost.

Remember Roy Cohn was Donald Trump's mentor...

@johnbonivento9037

Жыл бұрын

YESSSSS They're both tarred with the same brush

The setle passive aggression, accompanied with elegance

@kemetwice2390

3 жыл бұрын

Subtle*

Gore Vidal was one of the great American intellectuals of the late 20th Century. Cohn spends most of this interview misdirecting the conversation. He began by claiming McCarthy was dedicated to stopping the Communist menace around the globe when McCarthy was known for was claiming the Communists were "infiltrating" the State Department and the US Army neither of which was true. Vidal, who was openly gay, was really digging at Cohn, who was also gay but closeted, by pointing out very subtly that he was gay and intimated that McCarthy may have been gay. Those comments made Cohn visibly uncomfortable.

@cindymaceda2999

4 ай бұрын

Then Cohn died of AIDS, didn’t he?

@MS-wb5mf

3 ай бұрын

I always wondered about Nixon and Robozo.

@christophergraves6725

Ай бұрын

There were Soviet agents in the State Department and the military as well as the White House under FDR. Alger Hiss was, in fact, a Soviet agent. Then there were people in government, academia, and the news and entertainment industry who were sympathetic with the Soviets. Harry Dexter White and Harry Hopkins were both sympathetic with the Soviets as was FDR himself who was no Marxist, but saw Stalin's economic program was the New Deal on steroids.

2:18 “You were the guy behind him, pushing” Giggity...

Roy Cohn and Gore Vidal……WOW!!!!!

"He had a fantastic war record" of shooting coconuts.

@Longtack55

3 жыл бұрын

It's true. His colleagues gave him an award for "Most vegetation shot." He fired 4500 rounds one day including some into his own aircraft so he could claim a record. He flew only two combat missions (in one day) and injured his foot falling over when partying but called it a combat wound. No Purple Heart though;-)He died bravely of liver damage from a special Japanese bayonet called "booze."

@Resenbrink

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@eamonwright7488

Жыл бұрын

@@Longtack55 Beautiful synopsis of Tall Gunner Joe! I thought he got a Purple Heart for slipping on a wet deck on ship? Lol

2 queens fighting over how to angle the love seat.

@xs10tl1

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly.

That was great. Now I am looking for a debate between Cristopher Hitchins and Gore Vidal!

this is gold!!

Roy Cohn did surprisingly well against a superior opponent but I score a TKO for Vidal. Landed the best lines. Brilliant.

@roughhabit6496

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I know who I’d rather have advocating my defence.

@JohnB-dr8sk

Жыл бұрын

Roy Cohn and McCarthy were proven 100% correct by the Venona Transcripts and the Mitrokhin Archive release in the 1990s, so Vidal's responses now look dated and backwards compared to Roy's facts.

Roy Cohn was a monster.

@DBEdwards

Жыл бұрын

Cohn was

@roughhabit6496

Жыл бұрын

Sigh , so many people with shallow and unconsciously tragic lives.

@johnbonivento9037

Жыл бұрын

When he was disbarred, then passed of AIDS, the "monster" was finally gone!!!

@arriuscalpurniuspiso

11 ай бұрын

He was so physically repulsive

@Martin-tn5lm

Ай бұрын

A monster?! A rather small monster, don't you think?

No eye contact at all between them. Fascinating

Two very interesting people who are disagreeing with facts on both sides. Leaving the viewer’s the respect to make up their own minds. Very enjoyable to me.

The interviewer had the wisdom to say little and let these lettered men play it out.

This interview and conversation is fantastic. Two Intelligent people on different sides of the argument. Actually having a civil and respect full conversation! Love it and very deep respect for both individuals. Why cant we learn from an example of civil discussion like this ?

@brandoncrusen9160

2 жыл бұрын

How is Roy Cohn intelligent? A grotesquely dishonest liar.

@roughhabit9085

2 жыл бұрын

Omg what an original comment.

@WindTurbineSyndrome

Жыл бұрын

Wow witty riposte by an intellectual guest author Gore Vidal who uses language. Unlike what people do today. In English public school men were taught debating and how to parse an argument in public as part of their education so many went into politics, government, and industry.

@johnny-r

Жыл бұрын

We don't need to learn anything. We have cell phones.

@CesarClouds

Жыл бұрын

@@johnny-rLol

I've never heard of Cohn (bit too young and from a different country), but he sounds like a real charmer. I particularly liked the story about how he "entered the hospital room of the dying and comatose Lewis Rosenstiel, the multi-millionaire founder of Schenley Industries, forced a pen to his hand and lifted it to the will, in an attempt to make himself and Cathy Frank, Rosenstiel's granddaughter, beneficiaries". Like I said, a real charmer.

@internetwonderbuilder4741

3 жыл бұрын

He was Trump's mentor. For real.

@michaelterry1000

3 жыл бұрын

And the great defender of Studio 54.

@misspm8157

3 жыл бұрын

He was the head MOB lawyer in New York. He was totally ruthless. Then died of aids.

@brianwalsh1401

2 жыл бұрын

He's a narcissist or sociopath. They lack any scruples and stuff like this wouldn't bother them a bit unless of course he didn't take the opportunity to do it and then he would kick himself. Just watched Victim, something something on netflix about his life. The guy wouldn't pay people and used people like all narcs and sociopaths as pawns in their game of life. I'm sure trump already was doing all of this stuff by the time he met Cohn.

@brandoncrusen9160

2 жыл бұрын

He was the close number 2 under McCarthy. A very important part of American history to know and understand. The Edward R. Murrow School of Journalism is at WSU. People like Cohn are absolute snakes yet somehow allowed to survive and prosper. A fascist. Taught Donald Trump a lot, was also closely involved with Roger Stone, Paul Manafort and Richard Nixon.

Mc carthy drank to oblivion after those hearings knowing that damage it was doing...but he had to ..damage was done and Roy one of the most disturbing Americans ever and to this day trough Trump..

@CrazyLeiFeng

3 жыл бұрын

American Left contributed to the millions of North Korean and Indochine people being murdered by the Communists.

@bear0balls

3 жыл бұрын

Spot on! Cohn taught Trump many of his most criminal practices!

@angelofinaldi5918

3 жыл бұрын

You want to tangle communism...?? Fine , but get fair ,honest competent..staff....not a frustrated drunk...and his develish side Kik..whispering poisoning equations that break all rules of decency..

@robertortiz-wilson1588

Жыл бұрын

@@bear0balls such as what huh?

Wow Gore knew Roy was in the closet...

@tyleranyways

Жыл бұрын

12:57 poor Roy lol

@690169016901

9 ай бұрын

Wow ya in a big way.

@timothymeehan181

9 ай бұрын

“Takes one to know one”? Gore had the maturity & bravery to acknowledge his own sexuality. Cohn was…well, where to begin? Simply a disgustingly poor excuse for a human being in a thousand ways..

@seanosull2884

8 ай бұрын

I think everyone knew

@darbyheavey406

8 ай бұрын

Takes one to know one.

Regardless of the points of view .. both bright, articulate

@stevekaczynski3793

Жыл бұрын

Both highly intelligent. Vidal's "Palimpsest" was one of the best books I ever read.

This generation of people seemed so effortlessly articulate, listening even to folks with whom I disagree is like an intellectual/linguistic balm to the mind/ears.

Gore Vidal was an eloquent speaker

@robertortiz-wilson1588

Жыл бұрын

True

@JohnB-dr8sk

Жыл бұрын

More like a pompous, arrogant jerk

@billkeaveney1526

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnB-dr8sk no.

@robertortiz-wilson1588

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnB-dr8sk true, he was also indeed a pompous and arrogant jerk.

“Let’s be affirmative…” 😂

@tyleranyways

3 ай бұрын

I'm stealing that lol

How in the heck did they get both Roy Cohn and Gore Vidal on the same stage?

@susanfrombflo8368

3 жыл бұрын

Civility in politics existed then.

@prant8998

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I like the way they made their point and actually let the other finish. Today, we get half way through and the other guy yells out a non sequitur and the whole thing is just unproductive shouting match.

@beccadabeast5013

3 жыл бұрын

You should watch Buckley and Vidal. Great intellectual stuff until later meetings when Bill got his feelings hurt and converted to bashing Vidal.

@milart12

3 жыл бұрын

@@beccadabeast5013 Did u e see Best of Enemies, documentary about their tete-a tete at the '68 convention. Fantastic stuff

@brianwalsh1401

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think Vidal ever shied away from any debate with the right wing. I think that he hadn't been told about this is what annoyed him because he wanted to be prepare. Obviously he was intelligent enough to pull it off and did a very good job.

Great debate. Why is the sound off from 11:49 to 12:05?

Roy Cohn, slippery as ever called this movie a documentary, movies have a poetic license which gives wiggle room in depicting historical figures. Gore Vidal was one of the best historical novelists and essayists that I have ever read.

@Bethaniji

3 жыл бұрын

...and Gore Vidal also used as much wiggle room as he could afford. I agree that he is all you said above, I much appreciate his historical novels.

@juanitamora4857

3 жыл бұрын

Gore vidsl was fu of crapola

@christopherbremer2192

3 жыл бұрын

@@juanitamora4857 are you CIA

@borisbadenov651

3 жыл бұрын

You need to read more. Taylor Caldwell remains superior.

@chrisolsen7679

2 жыл бұрын

@@borisbadenov651 Nice!! Thank you for clueing people on about Taylor Caldwell!!! "Joseph Armaugh"

Gore was about to out his ass lmao.. You wanna tawk about reading… let’s tawk about reading!

Gore Vidal was so intelligent, and at the same time he was so cool, and he had sa·​voir faire, I sure wish Gore Vidal, and Christopher Hitchens were still alive today to comment on America. I loved listening to both of them for knowledge, inspiration, and wise anecdotes.

I ❤' ed Gore Vidal he was awesome

@DBEdwards

Жыл бұрын

Gore was remarkable, as he always was.

It's hard to believe that this is what American daytime TV used to be like.

LOL at these two LGBT boys with VASTLY different political views. LOL even more at the homosexual cracks around the 13 minute mark, considering the two participants involved.

Don't take it at face value, Cohn was on a particular mission

The tv movie Tail Gunner Joe was released Feb 6,1977

Cohn claims he had no previous knowledge of Vidal appearing with him on the show - and this was after he pulls out a piece of paper from which reads Vidal quotes…

Gore Vidal’s aces. Love ya Bill!

Two flamers which puts show's their pov. Also McCarthy was a flamer too.

11:49: Audio drops out. Is this simply a malfunctioning section in the master, or was this censored (either at the time or since)?

@Billboggs

7 ай бұрын

tape glitch I think, I did the interview live and tape was just made for me.

Any live discussion in which Gore Vidal is a participant is worth watching. I was interested to hear Roy Cohn, someone I have not seen much of. I had to look up Bill Boggs despite my 71 years; never heard of you, Bill. Sorry. Good show. Was it a local broadcast in NYC?

@EVRYMANaKING

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. Bill interviewed everyone in the 70s NYC.

it would be helpful to post the date of the original broadcast

@pamelia59

3 жыл бұрын

I googled it 1977was the year

@pqmconstruction2003

3 жыл бұрын

If that happened there wouldn't be all this action in the comments.

@pamelia59

3 жыл бұрын

@@pqmconstruction2003 if you think the interview was recent you have a lot of problems that even Google can't give help for, JS

@fifty9forty3

2 жыл бұрын

Cohn said in the interview/debate, the year was 1977.

@DBEdwards

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. I am guessing circa 1970

this was great television for the afternoon. what happened?

Thanks

Can you please repost this? The sound goes out in the middle for a few seconds. Thank you.

12:40 gets going here - Cohn can't make eye contact with Vidal - tries to deflect with quotes about Carter and definitions for McCarthyism. Then "you would have got through to quickly." hehe

@billd3356

2 жыл бұрын

I noticed that too. Cohn hardly looks at the host, except to emphasize certain words. I find that really odd.

@billd3356

2 жыл бұрын

Cohn also does not address Vidal directly to his face, refers to him as "Mr. Vidal" as if Vidal is not even in the room.

Why can't Americans have normal conversations like this anymore? Just talking to each other, arguing, discussing.

@movingpicutres99

3 жыл бұрын

These people were educated before TV dumbed us down and diminished attention span.

@xs10tl1

3 жыл бұрын

Because we are products of the Revolutionary War, and have kept having to fight the same enemy in different jerseys....all the while building the greatest economy and innovative culture on the planet.

@roughhabit9085

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve thought about this and I blame advertisers and marketers. They are generally dull extroverts and are convinced that what people want to watch is those of that same ilk . The bar is set entertain the LCD.

@roughhabit6496

Жыл бұрын

Because big government doesn’t want it.

@AlvaBarr

Жыл бұрын

Because of Jerry Springer and the birth of the infamous entitled loudmouth Karen!!

Gore had the sharpest tongue ever. Miss him.

There's silence on the video from about 11:49 to 12:03. Technical difficulties? Or was it intentional...?

I still don’t see how Lucy Ball was ever a threat. That McCarthy had too much time on his hands.

After all these years Roy’s defense of McCarthy sounds like a trump cult member.

@juanvaldez3515

3 жыл бұрын

Your wrong its about Harris And Willy brown

@EmilyHartley25989

2 жыл бұрын

@Juan Valdez That doesn’t make sense. The analogy doesn’t work.

@iadorenewyork1

2 жыл бұрын

Cohn was a mentor to Don Trump.

@thefaith2332

Жыл бұрын

Venona papers

@jordanmascarenhas7974

Жыл бұрын

To a libtard, it would

I do not mean to be crude, but by giving him the nickname “Tailgunner Joe”, was the media implying more that MaCarthy ran the machine gun is the back end of a bomber? In other words (even more base I’m afraid, and for which I apologize), were they implying tha McCarthy was gay?

@hughmac13

3 жыл бұрын

"Tail Gunner Joe" was the name of a television movie about the life of Joe McCarthy, but I suspect Vidal, efficient with the language as ever, was killing two birds with one stone by making an allusion to the possibility of the latter.

@62Cristoforo

3 жыл бұрын

The double entendre was obviously lost on the masses, since they took the phrase from Vidal and entitled the book with it, for mass distribution, in mixed company

Hi Mr Boggs! I was wondering if you would know where I could find the midday episode with Roy Cohn and Harry Reems? (If the recording still exists)

@Billboggs

Жыл бұрын

Wish I had it, Irene. Tye show was live so I do not have recordings of all shows. If you ever find a copy please LMK. If you can please follow me on instagra @realbillboggs. Thank you.

Magnificent example of art of gentlemany conversation despite fundamental disagreements. A lost art. Compare their articulate abilities to the likes of Lauren Boebert, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Josh Hawley, the detritis of QAnon.

@G_Demolished

3 жыл бұрын

@@asongforsimeon4310 If you think the world had more respect for the mango Mussolini you need to get out more.

@fifty9forty3

2 жыл бұрын

These times and the approach to voicing disagreement is different from then, and it isn't coming from one direction.

@josephdegennaro6819

Жыл бұрын

Our whole society is practically brain dead. What lack of education did to many, the phone and attention spans did the rest. Try explaining something to someone that takes more than a minute, forget it.

@dakrontu

Жыл бұрын

@@josephdegennaro6819 Indeed a species with such a paltry attention span would not survive in the wild. Perhaps we are witnessing the degeneration of our species back to the apes the creationists insist we didn't come from. You first, Marjorie.

@raymond5285

Жыл бұрын

And biden and camela

Look how pissed he is (12:53). Cohen probably thinks back to being 'tailgunned' by alcoholic Joe.

@jordanmascarenhas7974

Жыл бұрын

You’re either a liberal or a homophobe. Pick one

11:48 sound cuts out for a few seconds... what was said? (til about 12:04)

Gore Vidal talks like he’s in a movie 😂😂😂

Vidal was “bad” in the good sense, and Cohn “bad” in the evil sense, and both fascinating (Cohn maybe even more so to me).

Two Queens throwing around the gay question! Priceless!

@wordscontrolminds

4 жыл бұрын

Cohn couldn’t face his own dogs, never mind his own sexuality. How do these people still get in to government? His “ transactional “ totalitarianism is very much in power today through Trump, and the same people believe the bullshit. If he will lie to himself it’s obvious he would lie to the world.

@MrJoeybabe25

4 жыл бұрын

@@wordscontrolminds All true...but even Vidal never "came out" really. He really didn't have to, though.

@anderseckstrand7033

3 жыл бұрын

@Joe Postove.....Well, that’s probably because it was the 70’s, when gays were heavily discriminated against socially and in the workplace. Lots of employers wouldn’t hire gays. It’s really a recent thing in history that gays now have legal protection against discrimination. Our societal evolution is soooo anemic. It takes decades for the law to catch up to contemporary culture. Marijuana is STILL illegal in most states, yet alcohol kills 88,000 annually. 🤷‍♂️ Our politicians don’t care about the will of the people. They live inside their own elite bubble.

@JDMumma

3 жыл бұрын

@@anderseckstrand7033 YES, and ironically and unethically Roy Cohn was 'behind' much of the vilifying and destroying of gays! Word is that a lot of suicides were blamed on Cohn's exposures. Cohn died of AIDS!

@ileanasantamaria2364

3 жыл бұрын

@@JDMumma It fits somehow - like his minion, the self-loathing underneath the bluster is painfully apparent.

Fascinating interview. What year was this? I wish you would put the date in the description. This was so interesting - thank you for this.

@Billboggs

7 ай бұрын

I think it was 1977

@spb7883

7 ай бұрын

@@Billboggs Seems correct given that the tv movie is mentioned as having premiered “in February”, and it did premiere in 1977. Cohn’s book was published the same year, and Boggs emphasizes it is a recent publication. What I’m wondering is, what *month* ? Because Zero Mostel - mentioned in the course of the debate - also died that year (in September).

Amazing how stuff like this was broadcast on mass media! A great civil debate with two people who actually know something about what they are debating!!! The internet made us all stupid

Bring back the intelligent debate....