The Instagram thing is a Meta problem and not a Google one, the app doesn't open full screen on iPad OS either

It seems like you're not anti Pixel Fold, you just don't like foldable phones. Which is perfectly fine!

All fair points. I love mine to death and couldn't be more satisfied overall with it. Honestly, I like being able to use the front screen for most things, FUNCTIONALLY, and have the inner screen when I need more space for videos, pages, or documents. To me, that's all I really need to be super happy with it. I also like the ease of multitasking on it on the inner screen when I need it, too, with the default landscape ratio. I am happy to be there for Google to show there is demand for their foldable. I look forward to their future foldables giving us even more great things. I do feel that the software needs to be more capable. It needs to do more. That's what I miss from my Z Fold but I DO NOT miss that front screen form factor. 🤢

Many interesting points... it seems like your personal use case hits the device's current software shortcomings perfectly. I don't game so that's not an issue for me. The things I do on my Pixel Fold work WONDERFULLY and I absolutely love the phone.

@Littkickks

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Same here. Multitasking is a beast on this phone. If you're not really multitasking or like the watch video content, then it's probably not going to be a great phone for you

@jebaker2

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@@Littkickks 💯

@LGHTSPD675

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How does it compare to the Samsung Fold 4 (or 5) on the inside screen layout? I also have a pixel fold and found some awkward website layouts with the pixel fold, but curious if Samsung does it better on their Fold models. This seems like an easy problem to solve, my Chromebook can adjust layouts easily and my wife's Chromebook though having a different aspect ratio still looks great. I think it's an adaptation thing in the software. For example, some sites are a great experience, I really like how it lays out Amazon. The biggest missing feature in my opinion is a Dex like offering. Phones in our day and age are very capable and could be a single device option. Desktop, laptop, and mobile computer if they are given the compatibility and capability.

My experience exactly! But I’m gonna ride with it. My main phone is an iPhone and my second phone is usually the top of the line Pixel. I love the Fold for content creation/consumption. I hope Google and developers get some more functionality for it. I do understand your complaints. I don’t mind the crease or the slight bend when it’s open, it’s the app support that I’m hoping gets better.

@JohnBorgen

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I don't have one yet. But all the reviews I'm seeing...I wish I hadn't cancelled my order. I think this is close enough to "right" that I could have used it for work on a regular basis.

@Johnlmooring

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@@JohnBorgen it runs great, actually smoother than the Pixel 7 Pro. All of my gripes can be fixed through software. Some apps do randomly crash upon opening for no reason. Sometimes they run, sometimes they don’t. But other than that it does everything I need and more.

Thanks for the honest and great video.

Great, honest review. Thank you!

Thank you for your honesty and good review.

Great honest video

It's been interesting to observe your opinion of the fold shifting over the past couple of weeks. The gyro thing seems legitimately bad; haven't experienced it yet because I don't play fps but yikes. Otherwise I've been thrilled with this device and had the opposite experience from you in that I went back to a slab phone and it felt awful! Great video and vive la difference 👍

This is exactly the sort of review I was looking for. I felt like other KZreadrs were trying to sell this way to hard. I think foldables will be amazing one day but still have a bit of work to do first.

I have to say I love the pixel fold. Guess for what i use it for

@bigdrews4360

Жыл бұрын

Same here.

Good review Rob, guess I'll be waiting for ver.#2

Can you select desktop site in chrome? Is it any better in that view?

My first foldable was a Surface Duo, waiting patiently for FedEx to arrive with my Pixel Fold 😊

Just saw in TMobile store, HANDS DOWN the best foldable period, no comparison.

I was wondering what the battery life was like in real use, given that that it is supporting not one but three times the normal amount of screen estate, although I suppose there is more body here to fit a larger battery?

I really like the external screen form factor on the fold and wish they just made a regular phone with that exact size. I find that the big screen isn't to be used a lot. small screens are more convenient. the advantage here imo is to be a le to have thé big screen sometimes (movies, some specific websites f.e.) and the small screen most of the time. if the plan is to use it as a folding tablet I'd agree this doesn't work that well, but I don't know many who really use tablets in reality. I'm sure the little browser bugs will be fixed otherwise. as for the price... can't disagree there. I see why it's expensive but I don't think it's great value

Have you ever heard of Desktop mode on chrome?

What watch strap is that?

Very honest and useful video. Folding phones are exiting but for me in real use (z fold 4) not yet there yet. Apart from durability problems and bulkiness, the experience isn't good enough yet, at least for me.

the gyro issue is on my Surface Duo 1 with Camera in Videomeetings... is the SD1 in landscape, it thinks it is in portrait mode ;-)

Play books shows a two column layout when you fold it more than 30 degrees.

watching on my pixel fold.

I am an avid digital reader and use the inner screen with the Galaxy 4 fold. Would this phone be good for reading also?

@jeffreytz

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The Kindle app works nicely on it.

Finally, a REAl review. Thanks for that.

Nicely done, I understand where you're coming from. TBH I think the software for these devices isn't here yet, it's a work in progress but I can say this is amazing for watching KZread. It's real nice to have KZread playing propped up in bed as I fall asleep. Also for taking photos and videos are amazing since it's own tripod. To me I think the biggest downside is trying to find a solid case for a device like this, it can be hard

With playbooks you can slightly close the fold to get the book like format.

The Galaxy Z Fold is a different animal. The internal screen is NOT split into two logical screens. Please try the Z Fold 4 - most of the problems u mention don't exist. Samsung adds a layer of ui (to most common apps) to take advantage of the large screen, in more than 1 way.

It's working great with all applications fitting on the screen with the android beta. Great video. Thank you. Seems like your expectations ruined your experience.

Chrome Unboxed=ThanksMuch!

I have a pixel fold and I have the same problems with a few apps. I don't use the same social media apps. I use Twitter when I use Twitter I just turn it 90° and it's fine. I owned the four previous z-folds. I chose this one over the next one that's coming out because of the cover screen which is just great. Something that the z-fold does not have and it still had the same app problem. So I've gained a better front screen and it's the same price. And that is my opinion.

Sticking with my Surface Duo 2. Pen support, screens that know where to end. Maybe when the software experience is better on the Fold I'll bite the bullet but not for now.

All the same stuff does not apply to the ZFold. One UI is better formatted for the screen size than the Pixel.

I totally agree that OSes and apps aren't ready to deliver a great folding experience for the masses. I purchased a Microsoft Duo to use when I need a "dual screen" fix! Duo is still the best e-book reader IMHO!

@andyH_England

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You can use the Pixel Fold exactly like the Duo! It was designed to be similar hence only two-app multitasking. But it is a lot better if you just use one app on the inner than the Duo.

I love Outlook and Gmail on my Fold's big internal screen, as well as photo editing (so much better than a standard phone screen). I have a Surface Duo and I hated that device as a daily driver (mainly I think because there's no cover screen). I kept it around for football season watching Sunday ticket on one screen and my live update pool on the other in "laptop mode" when out with friends at brunch, but that was the only thing it was good for. For me the Fold is the future and works now for most of my use cases, and when it doesn't the cover screen is fantastic. I came from a Sony Xperia 1 Mk III and didn't realize how much I missed all the Pixel touches from my previous Pixels 1 through 4, happy to be back in the Pixel "fold" 😉 Plus I love the smaller (albeit not thinner) form factor when folded over all the "tall" phones like my Xperia and the Pro/Max devices.

@nickthaskater

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Samsung's Email app works much better on a large screen than the Gmail app. I tried giving Gmail a chance on my Fold but finally went back to the Samsung Email app. The flexible dual pane view, even in portrait orientation, pop out windows in DeX, etc. Just make for a better experience.

As of today, my opinion of the Pixel Fold is that it is the best thought out design so far. I agree that the folding phone idea is limited in its usefulness but if you like the idea, the Pixel is the best fit in the hand and pocket. It is also a first generation product with room to improve

@Mike-In-O-Town

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Except at $1,800, its market is incredible limited, meaning if it doesn't deeply penetrate that limited market (and IMO it won't), it won't present a business case to chase future generations.

@netnomad47

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Everything about it is a great phone. But 4 additions would make this even better. 1. Slimmer inner bezels 2. Reduce weight(it's a very heavy device) 3. Add pen support 4. Add a Samsungdex-like docking mode with desktop UI.

@CF542

Жыл бұрын

@@netnomad47 Well they gotta save some things for the second and third generations

Thanks

Your facial expression said it all! You look like a kid who got a bottle of vitamins for Christmas. My Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra fits my needs just fine. Great screen. Lots of RAM and SD storage. I'll wait for a better iteration of these folding devices.

I have to say that you actually can easily switch Play Books into the book-style column layout. I had to dig around online to figure it out. You basically have to partially fold the screen and it will auto-activate. That does mean that you have to hold the phone partially closed, so that's up to you if you like that or not. Its meant to feel more like holding an actual book. I actually don't mind it, but others might not like it. But I thought I'd mention it since you said you had to change settings on yours. 10:30

Google made such a good front display . the inner display is not needed as much as other foldables

For $1,800 ...it does need to be loveable

Its crazy how just rotating the phone in table mode will fix 90% of your problems. I rotate my ipad pro all the time depending on whay im doing. A folding phone = small tablet.. just rotate it. 🤦🏾‍♂️ Ps. I have a pixel fold and rotate it on Facebook, monopoly go, and Instagram.

I am wondering if developers have been atomizing their apps for Android 14 and some of your concerns will go away when 14 is released.

@jeffreytz

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What's coming in 14 (that the Duo had from day one) is the ability to create paired app shortcuts for the inner screen, so you can have a shortcut that always opens Gmail and your Calendar side by side, for example.

@andyH_England

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@@jeffreytz I assume that Google has a whole raft of features coming to the Fold with Feature Drops that will add value. Rome was not built in a day and with time I expect many of these issues will be null and void.

Use cases matter - watching video while translating words you don't know and transcribing without blocking the video - using desktop web apps, like admin panels and Replit/Stackblitz - bigger viewfinder for taking pictures with your arm fully stretched... Like over a crowd at a concert - watch video while web browsing. The video is full size when portrait unfolded. - vertical unfolded allows charging without a cable in the way - remote camera shutter is great as it has a built-in kickstand, adjustable camera - tent mode is great for video - it's a complete replacement for my 9.7” tablet... I literally haven't touched it In response to his issues: - go vertical for reading - there are goofy problems. Other issues he didn't mention: - not being able to go 180° is dumb - live transcribe is forced to be in the middle, and it's not resizeable - the gesture bar is absolutely huge and not configurable

Interesting. I think you'll need a phone with 2 hinges to get a screen with proper tablet size. Don't see that happening soon. Also, for this price it should have the G3 chip

That is why Samsung made the phone the size it did, so if you turn it the other way, it fits the screen better.

Thanks for sharing your honest review. I guess Pixel Fold 2 will be better and have these early adopter issues fixed.

Tbh the external screen factor makes you comfortable with just using the external screen especially for those coming from a regular phone form factor. This therefore makes the inner display mostly redundant. It could be that that's why Samsung chose a more unconventional form for the outer display just to force people to use the inner display more

I personally don't understand the phablet movement when companies are releasing convertible laptops and oversized tablets with mobile development compatibilities. Wouldn't it make more sense to keep smartphones in their proper category while enhancing hardware and user experiences? Just my .02. It's a good looking device for sure though 😅

When you design something to do everything, it usually does nothing well. I went back to a smartphone, a tablet, and a laptop. I spent my money on carry bags and accessories. I have different bags depending on what my needs are for the day, then mix and match hardware depending on my requirements.

Its the google tensor chip I have no doubts. 😮

It feels like you talking from my mind

@Silver01Son

Жыл бұрын

yes

Also when it comes ro reading books on any of the ipads we have ,12in ,11in pro, 9.7 and the kindle Paperwhite all of them look exactly like you showed with the fold in potrait mode.😂 I dont know a single person with an ipad or kindle that has 2 pages side by side like a book. I've been a fan of you guys since the literal beginning, so im not trying to knock you at all.... But it seems like you were expecting the tablet functionality to not function like a tablet. Anyone with an ipad of any size is nearly always rotating it to get the best experience for a given task, the fold is literally no different... I will say some might not we comfortable holding it in portrait, and i get that... Also the galaxy fold opens in portrait and automatically fixs 90% of your issues, if you aren't willing to rotate the phone.

Exactly how I felt going back to an iPhone after using the Z Fold 3...

I've been using a "phablet" phone since the Note 3 and love that style of phone. I really like the idea of a folding phone, having perhaps a slightly less unwieldy screen normally and then being able to open it up to an even bigger screen than even a "phablet" could have. However, with some of the software and even hardware (such as the visible crease) issues still present, and with the inner screen on these folding phones not being THAT much larger than a "phablet" and the "phablets" not being too unwieldy, I feel it still isn't worth the price for these folding phones yet. Maybe if they were the same price as the "phablets" it would be worth it, but for now I think the "phablets" have struck the best balance between portability and a larger screen size. I can see maybe one day the folding phones rivaling them, but not until more of the issues are ironed out and the price drops.

luckily some days ago an update let the scalability of apps

The other thing that people are complaining about the apps that don't fill up the screen like Instagram, in my week of using the pixel fold, most of those go full-screen if you turn the pixel fold sideways. I don't know about Instagram because I don't use Instagram but most other apps that initially only fill the middle third of the screen if I turn the phone 90 degrees then it will fills up the entire screen.

The problem is there's way too much damn hate for this phone. You know it is a niche thing. It's entering the market. It's a solid daily driver. And it's completely stripped of any bloatware BS and it works as intended. Update after update continuously improving as Google does mostly essentially stop with the hate for everybody not just you would be appreciated. Make it shine geese

I have a fold 4 and for sure foldables are the future. I was on the s22 ultra btw. All I can say is that I love the fold 4 more than any other phone ever. And I will say that for any foldable at this point.

The Surface Duo section is odd. It gets slated in reviews 😕

@andyH_England

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Yes, it was a sales disaster losing MS billions! It was soo bad that MS ditched it and their next foldable will be similar to the Pixel Fold!

I don’t understand the constant comment of I don’t know what to use the bigger screen for? No android tablet ever has had complete fully optimised apps for the bigger screen factor this isn’t new.

This was an honest, objective and informative review. Thank you!

Viewing drawings on construction sites, spreadsheets, multi-tasking are all things I do on a reguloar basis, so a foldable would be very good for me when I'm not in the office. My concerns are price and durability (lots of dust on construction sites and dust resistance ratings on foldables is not as good as traditional phones).

That's a shame but understandable, it highlights either developers need to account for fordable handsets or the phone needs to use some AI to condensate for the extra screen estate on native apps. It will be resolved if foldables are here to stay

I was able to get a surface duo for around $200 and I like it much more than I thought I would. For the price I'll stick with it

@robmack4010

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I did the same thing. I don't have a sim in mine. I use it more as a portable table in conjunction with my phone

Saw the pixel 7a unboxing. Still waiting for the full review.

Thanks for the video. Same old issue with Android vs Chromebook. Android likes portrait, a wide Android screen wastes space and somethings don't work. After using Android 10-inch tablets for many years, I just gave up and went with Chromebook. Phones for portrait, Chromebook for Landscape. Typed on a Lenovo Chromebook Duet 3 which replaces my Huawei Mediapad M5 10.8 Pro.

@nickthaskater

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Landscape works fine on my Z Fold 4. I use it in landscape as much as I do portrait, thanks to Samsung making it work unlike Google.

Yes, fair review from a non-foldable person. Folds like this are very niche with less than 0.4% of the yearly smartphone sales it clearly is not for everyone, the price being the main barrier to entry. From the stop-start Android tablet story it has always been about the lack of dev support versus iPadOS, and sadly, the current chapter still runs with that narrative. Hopefully, with Android 14 and the scaling API we will get apps that can fill the screen with good scaling rather than be stretched which is the Galaxy Fold solution. I am glad Google did not go the Samsung route as it likely means they will not settle on that poor compromise and hopefully have bigger and better plans in the making that will benefit all including the Galaxy Fold. As for the negatives, there are workarounds, though not perfect, and hopefully, the gyro will be fixed as that is a very simple bug. Like Samsung, I suspect that Google will have to implement a Pixel OS fix as devs are unlikely to fix it for a small niche market. As for the browser, an 8-inch display still looks better IMHO using a phone layout than a squished-up desktop mode. You can use progressive web apps for full-screen apps and turning between portrait and landscape is easy for optimised layouts, that has always been an advantage a tablet offer over most laptops, so that is not a negative on apps like TikTok or Instagram. For those that still have not bought into foldable's then the Pixel is unlikely to change their mind. But for those that have been wanting a more sensible design, then the Pixel means that they can enter the foldable space with a usable front display.

So you are just angry at apps not being adapted by their developers to this form factor....

some websites work better in desktop view. some work better in desktop view and rotated vertically. you kind of have to play around with it. fortunately, chrome remembers which sites you prefer mobile and which you prefer desktop. it's not perfect, but you can make it work.

Until Google find a way to force Android developers to fix their apps to cater tablet layout, bigger screen is mostly useless. Love to see that you have the Surface Duo on your desk 😊

Everyone talking about the price but the z fold 4 is the same price

Listening to you I believe what you (and i) need is an Apple foldable phone. Not because it’s Apple or blah, but because if they can get one thing mostly right, it’s the user experience and the smaller details like landscape mode or two columns for Apple Books, etc

@richo4447

Жыл бұрын

I have thought the same, unfortunately if apple release one it will currently blow any android one out of the water from a software experience perspective. Hopefully Google app Devs can improve these things

@mechmouni

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I don't think some of the gaming issues are on my Galaxy Fold, just the Pixel Fold. 11:28

The tone change in your voice (from the unboxing) hurts me 😭

The finger print side reader is great. I think it should be on all phones.... It looks like google and Samsung ect neet to pay to get the big APs optimized for the screen....

@jeffreytz

Жыл бұрын

Agree the finger print reader is fantastic. My Xperia 1 Mk III has one and its awful, I think because Sony inset the power button so its difficult to get a clean read on the first try. The Pixel Fold's sensor reads my finger 99.9% of the time first try.

I agree 100 % … thank you User experience is bad.. this is the bottom line

The biggest selling point is that you don't have to unfold it. Which is really weird for a $2k foldable.

Here's the thing. People keep talking about the price but most people are going to get a pixel fold are already pixel users. I traded in my pixel 6 and I got $900 credit so really I'm only pay $900 and doing it through my cell carrier I only pay $25 a month. So the same that I was paying before for my pixel 6 on a 36-month plan.

Wow the gyro thing is so interesting! I think that’s Google's fault! Google needs to make the internal screen to act like “landscape” because it is a wide screen, as in it’s wider horizontally.

I bought a z fold 5 and returned it in 3 days. The reality of carrying around a heavy fragile brick that is worse in every way to my previous global Xiaomi 13 ultra (other than screen size) sunk in.

You obviously don't multitask and like watch youtube and read website at the same time. I'm not a huge fan of some of the artificial limitations on he UI, but I believe they are doing all this to get the app devs to adapt to larger screens smarter than they currently do.

Nice try, and I wanted to love it, but as things are, best to just keep the 7pro for now.

Portrait orientation like zfold is better 1. Most apps we used are portrait apps which don't scale properly to landscape orientation. Even if Google came up with a full screen hack (like zfold) stretching these portrait apps to a landscape screen will look extremely horrible. Don't forget, current zfold full screen hack is to go fullscreen in portrait screen. 2. With pixel fold there is the hassle of needing to rotate the screen to portrait if you don't want half the screen area being wasted by letter boxing. Not to mention, the need to rotate again to close the fold. 3. Even those apps with having landscape view support are not always optimum either as the fold is not a 10 inch tablet. These landscape optimized apps use half the screen to display main content (which is less than what you get on a candy bar phone). Even the KZread app is better in portrait. It gives you a big size video on the top half and you can read comments below. In landscape view, video size is much smaller unless you go into fullscreen (which means you can't see comments at the same time). 4. When pixel fold screen is rotated to portrait (most usage scenario), having the crease on the horizontal is way MORE distracting than on vertical. When vertical content scrolls over the horizontal crease you will see the constant waviness/distortion which makes you feels like you gonna get seasick. And the horizontal crease will much more visible as the crease is at an angle to your eyes when you are holding the phone in portrait. 5. Even multi-window split view is worse than zfold. After deducting the status bar and app header and bottom bars, pixel fold has a short vertical area for content. In conclusion, Pixel fold sacrifices the inner screen and everything else for a SLIGHTLY better cover screen typing only. Totally stupid imo.

@ulize.

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rotate again to close the phone..? you know you don't need it to face properly if you want to close it right

I absolutely love the pixel fold experience. Google phones have never been a gaming phone it's just built around the user experience and my experience is outstanding.I can live with the battery because I'm always close to a charger.i didn't pay $1800 I was able to trade my old phone.

i think people who read lots of books or manga will be very pleased with the inner screen, but for just watching videos you might be better of with just a regular phone.

Interesting, but I think I would rather just stick with my smart phone and 8 inch tablet combo. Using the phone’s hot spot I have the functionality of the Fold, but with a far better experience and for a LOT less money.

@nickthaskater

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Can't fit the tablet in your pocket, though. Give and take.

@clydeosterhout1221

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@@nickthaskater lol, sure you can! You just need to wear the right kind of pants! But of course you are right. It wouldn’t be practical everywhere all the time. I carry a small (very small!) over the shoulder case with my iPad Mini and it’s keyboard case any time I might need a larger screen, which is most of the time. In any case, I am way too rough on phones to carry anything that expensive!

Thanks. Currently owner of Fold 4, where I use tablet mode a lot. I was considering the Pixel Fold because of cleaner Android. I miss the S Pen. Now I see that Samsung has better resolved support for applications that are not ready for tablet mode. Do you agree?

@nickthaskater

Жыл бұрын

Samsung's software is what makes a foldable actually enjoyable to use. You don't get the same silly limitations that you see on the Pixel. "Cleaner" Android is limited Android. The stuff Samsung includes, by and large, serves to make the experience better.

@andyH_England

Жыл бұрын

Samsung just stretches the apps to fill the screen though they are trying, like with Instagram (and a mod) to make phone apps more like tablet apps, but sadly 99% of Android phone apps on the Fold are just stretched and look worse than having black bars. The reason Google hasn't used this fix, apart from it not looking nice, is that it will just make devs lazy and not bother making tablet-specific apps, and that would be a schoolboy error by Google. So instead, they have an API to improve scaling coming in Android 14 that will help the Pixel Fold and Galaxy Fold, so we won't have to see Galaxy Fold stretched apps soon!

@chytrik

11 ай бұрын

So I switched from Folf 4 to Pixel Fold. And I have to say, I'm excited. Exactly as I suspected. I use the Google ecosystem completely. And not only privately, but also at work (G Suite). In addition to the premium hardware, it is a system that is overall smoother, better behaved in relation to Google applications. Direct integration of the camera and photos, selecting text and transferring fo email, that's something I missed in Samsung. Maybe Pixel phone users have had this experience before, it's new to me. The benefit is the option whenever you need a large internal display. Amazing.

@nickthaskater

11 ай бұрын

@@chytrik - "it is a system that is overall smoother, better behaved in relation to Google applications." No, it's not. A Pixel doesn't run Google apps any better than a Samsung. "Direct integration of the camera and photos." What does mean? "selecting text and transferring fo email, that's something I missed in Samsung." Samsung has much more capability in this regard than a Pixel thanks to their "Smart Select" feature - what are you talking about?

@chytrik

11 ай бұрын

Please, I'm not an objective reviewer like Robby. It's my subjective feeling. I have both devices in front of me now and I'm doing a comparison. Both devices are superb. Don't forget that we are comparing luxury rides in premium cars. Regarding the smooth operation of the system, I have the impression that the Pixel responds better to my gestures. I switched to gestures a long time ago, and when I swipe on the ZFold for the list of apps, the list doesn't always pop up immediately, as if it sometimes hesitates. Similarly, swiping to return to the previous app sometimes makes a dent to the side and the original app remains there. When I swipe on the list of applications on the Pixel, I can immediately select text from recognized images and immediately insert it into GMail. Yes, both devices have their own system to do similar functions. I have previously switched to Chrome from the Samsung Browser, GBoard keyboard, Keep notes, G Docs/Sheets, etc. I use the G Suite work profile. If I don't actually use the power of Samsung's ecosystem, Pixel started to make more sense to me. We have Apple at my work and unfortunately I have to say that this is exactly what I miss. Rivals like Samsung and Google (and other competition in different variants of phones and accessories). With Apple, users are waiting for what the manufacturer will allow them to do. They sit and when the manufacturer Apple does not allow them to use this and that cable, they wait. There is no competition. I don't like that at all. So take it as both devices living at the pinnacle of what can be bought in the phone space. And maybe next year I will speak differently 😀

I'd say a number of those issues are a result of software than hardware or form factor. Pixel Fold has a long way to catch up with Samsung... who still have work to do themselves. But a better software experience could fix a lot. Folding phones have a lot of potential. Even the current generation of hardware. It's predominantly a software problem.

This is the same problem every android tablet has suffered. They start with the design and software laggs several generations behind.

Just give me a new pixelbook.

Where is the review of the acer spin 2023 Chromebook

Mine is coming Aug 11th Black 512. Really hope its better than the Z Fold. My inner screen broke 3 months in. Wasn't happy.

Foldable phones = 3D TVs

@jeffreytz

Жыл бұрын

Haha, no.

I'm in the same boat. You're not really encouraged to open to the larger display and when you do the experience is, "meh." I knew that going in because android on a tablet is just bad, supposedly android 14 makes things easier for developers to create versions for the larger display. Even then, I just feel you're getting more out of the galaxy fold series as the software encourages use of the inner display. Another thing that reviewers never mention are the speakers. Having an iphone, the speakers are not loud at all on this thing.

Pixel fold software puny vs Galaxy fold. It's simply a 1st gen Pixel vs 5th gen Galaxy issue.

the gaming is a huge bummer, no go

You have never been a tablet guy right? A lot of your complaints feel like the complaints for Android tablets in general. Rotating into portrait mode helps with phone only apps/websites. It's funny how much a hinge direction effects usage. The inside screen is the same size, but it really feels like Samsung - skinny phone to tablet vs pixel - 1 phone app vs 2 phone apps.

@nickthaskater

Жыл бұрын

Samsung OneUI deals with virtually all of these issues on the Galaxy Tab and the Z Fold.

@andyH_England

Жыл бұрын

@@nickthaskater They do but they are cheap fixes in many cases. For example, stretching out phone apps to fit the display makes them look cheap and nasty with pixelated apps. That is not a good solution. However, Google is releasing a scaling API that will fix this in Android 14, so Google is trying, but devs still need to run that API and I expect that most will not bother, whereas on iPadOS the uptake would be manyfold higher.

@nickthaskater

Жыл бұрын

@@andyH_England I've never had a stretched app look pixelated on my Fold. Feel free to give an actual example I and others can see, because in my experience there's no such thing.

@andyH_England

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@@nickthaskater We must use different apps! Just a quick two from the top of my head are Betfair and Racing Post. Most of the very popular social media apps look fine but it is the 95% that stretched, look sad!

I am an Android developer and I have to side with Google here. The developers are not handling configuration changes properly to know when the device is switching screens and orientations. It's a common problem that developers who are not experts in android mess up.

@nickthaskater

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Google themselves aren't doing it. They hard coded Gmail to only run the split pane view in landscape even if the actual viewport of the device is large. You can't move the centre divider, either, meaning you end up with a lot of wasted space. KZread *still* sucks at transitioning from cover screen to inner screen and vice versa resulting in UI bugs that can only be resolved by closing and re-opening the app. KZread Music has its own share of issues. Many examples of Google apps not following Android best practices.

@andyH_England

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@@nickthaskater That was the design of the Pixel Fold, like a book, to have each part in each half of the inner screen. Hence not having widgets cross the crease. It is not a problem just a different take. I do get where you are coming from in Gmail but for most, it will not be a problem.

@nickthaskater

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@@andyH_England you're literally defending Google not adhering to their own stated best practices. It's not Google being "different" it's laziness.

I have bought 3 Google hardware products, and 2 I had to send them back due to poor quality!