Awesome video!! Thanks for you review. I also shoot with Fuji and i love the Pixel cameras. With the Pixel 6 Pro, and now my Pixel 8 Pro, i have been able to go on vacation and various events and leave my camera gear at home. In the past i would have nevr been comfortable doing such as thing. But these photos takes excellent photos!

@PeteCocoPhoto

7 ай бұрын

Thanks so much! Glad you enjoyed the video and I agree. The 8 Pro is a great substitute for lugging a camera.

@shahrulzahri9774

7 ай бұрын

Iphone noob...

Excellent video and very good comparison, impressed by what those raw files from a mobile phone can give, I like mobile photography and I think it is the best replacement for my iPhone 14 pro, I will go for the Google Pixel 8 pro, thank you!

@PeteCocoPhoto

7 ай бұрын

Glad it helped - Enjoy!

thanks for the video, very interesting. I haven't looked at the raw files yet on my p8p. re dynamic range that you mention, the pixel photos jpg have huge dynamic range. that's the downside to raw on the pixel, dynamic range isn't as good as the jpg. also, something hardly ever gets mentioned on youtube, the pixel shoots ultrahdr, and after a lot of experimenting and initially being skeptical, it's a big deal. re masking and portrait shots, I get much better results shooting a standard photo and using latest lightroom to add lens blur. it does a much better job than the phone.

Unfortunately not a single landscape shot, which should've shown the differences much more pronounced I'm guessing.

@PeteCocoPhoto

4 ай бұрын

Ok

Nice video! I'm not sure if you mentioned it in your video, but for the photos you were taking, were you using the full resolution (50MP) mode or the normal resolution (12MP) mode?

@PeteCocoPhoto

2 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yes I used the 50mp for the video images.

Great video! Thanks 👍 - Did you use the Pixel8p camera in 4:3 full image mode?

@PeteCocoPhoto

7 ай бұрын

Yes I did. Glad you enjoyed the vid!

@BalintGulyas

7 ай бұрын

@@PeteCocoPhoto did you recognise the Google Photos app - how perfectly present the HDR pictures? If you have white colour or highlight on the pic that has extra brightness. I love this new p8p.

I just returned from a trip in West Africa using a Fuji X100f for my travel images. However, when I wanted to have an image to email to the family, I used my Pixel 6 as well as the X100f. Now I am comparing comparable images on my computer, I am stunned to see how good the Pixel 6 images are. Maybe over sharpened and more depth of field than the Fuji, but very much great images. I was considering upgrading to the Fuji X100VI but no longer. The images are that good! But the shooting experience is not the same, as I love using the viewfinder. Ultimately, the test is whether you like the images from the Pixel phone (mostly JPEGs in my case). For sharing during travel, no question they are great.

@PeteCocoPhoto

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! I agree that for jpegs on the go, the pixel is great!

The Pixel 8 raw files include data from more than one exposure to improve dynamic range, this is why you may notice some portions of the image having noise or blurring while other parts will be clear, basically it is effectively combining different sensitivities. This behavior is most visible in wide shots in environments like cities when looking down a city street. Pixel peep and you will see areas that have almost a compression blocking look to them as they were captured at a different ISO. Beyond that, some sharpening is baked in, along with the lens correction. You will notice that even without any default sharpening in lightroom, some images and some contrasty fine details may have some oversharp halos. Overall, it seems to be google's compromise is trying to improve dynamic range while accepting some artifacts. Before they started doing that, the raw files had very little room to push things, such that often even with a lot of work, you wouldn't get results close to as good as the jpegs with the full range of multi-frame processing going on.

@ricstars95

5 ай бұрын

@Razor2048 can you tell if the pic qualify from jpg on p8p very good? will raw file edit give "significant improvement" over its jpeg output?

@Razor2048

5 ай бұрын

@@ricstars95 The raw files can retain more detail, though in terms of dynamic range and noise in the shadows, While the raw files seem to utilize more than one frame (you can get sample raw files from sites like dpreview to play around with), the jpeg capture when the phone does not have to capture raw files, uses many more frames, as part of its tone mapping, and thus in cases where there is an extremely wide dynamic range, e.g., a backlit subject where the sun is visible in the background and the foreground is in shadow. the raw file will not look as good, and will require AI based noise reduction to get decent results, while the HDR+ jpeg capture will have a much more detailed tone mapping.

@ricstars95

5 ай бұрын

@@Razor2048 this is very helpful 👍 to be aware of when to use raw or jpeg for optimal result. thank you! 🙂

You mentioned digital artifacts when blowing up the pixel 8 Pro images. Since it is in raw, can you reduce the clarity to eliminate that?

@PeteCocoPhoto

16 күн бұрын

that would def help

Since the focal lengths in your comparison were different, you had to zoom in a lot more to the pixel images. The exposure differences also don't give a good noise comparison... i think the fuji would win if the iso settings were the same. In my own testing, comparing 12mp dng to 50mp dng from the pixel makes me wonder if the 50mp images are worth the size... it might be better to use 12mp binned images to get the better noise performance. It would be nice if google was able to include the depth map in the dng... i don't think lightroom supports it yet, but they probably will someday. Thanks for the comparison... not much info out there yet about the dng support.

@PeteCocoPhoto

7 ай бұрын

Good points, thank you!

Excellent! How come the DNG files on my P8 Pro are only 1962X1472? (I use JPG+RAW, 12 Mpixels, maybe I need to switch to 48 Mpixels but this introduces a delay between shots?)

@PeteCocoPhoto

4 ай бұрын

Yep you gotta use the 50mp, and yes, it does create a delay when taking the photo. Thanks for watching!

I dump to my phone from my cameras. Tried androids previously but found the workflow yucky for sd card photo dumping. Is there an easier way?

@PeteCocoPhoto

7 ай бұрын

Not that I've found. It's a huge pain to get anything from android to my mac because you can't air drop.

@BalintGulyas

7 ай бұрын

​@@PeteCocoPhotouse sendanywhere on Android and Apple devices ( I'm using between my phone and Ipad...)

I shoot with Sony but I find myself leaving it home more and more. I have a P8P

@dword492

7 ай бұрын

Ya I find this video lacking as much as you say lacking. Maybe if your truly went out of your way to use the phone like you have to waste your time with the camera youd get good shots. Riddle me this. How long have you used your camera or cameras? 8 pro been out 1. What months? Not long. I have a nice Sony camera and each time I bring it I end up using my s23 ultra because it just works I don't have to mess with it like my camera and my photos usually are prefect.

@AlvinJoseph

7 ай бұрын

@@dword492 I've had my P8P for about a month but I'm coming from a P7P. I have a Sony A7iii with a few sigma lenses and honestly I barely use it because the Pixels are 75-80% of my Sony, and with good edits I get to about 95%.

@PeteCocoPhoto

7 ай бұрын

For the times I don't want to lug a camera it does a great job

That's why there's micro four thirds cameras.🤓

@PeteCocoPhoto

7 ай бұрын

That would be a more fair comparison haha

To be honest the colors on the pixel look closer to real it appears. The skin tone at 12:26. It's just more natural. Cameras tends to be hyper real since they can see so much more than us. Im not saying its better. But it js pretty decent for a phone. I even did a photoshoot with constant soft light utilizing my 7 pro. They look pretty solid. I dont use the portrait stuff obviously. I use Photoshop, express and Lightroom. I say it need compared to a low end dslr. Like a t3i or something Odd question. Can you use google photos edit on raw before? The skin tone tool seems useful for some of the issues. You can start to boost highlight colors I'd assume depending on how much data is within the image.

@PeteCocoPhoto

7 ай бұрын

Good points regarding the skin tones. To your question, no you can't edit the raws with the phone's native app, you need to download a raw editor.

A phone will never could take the photos a camera can

@AD-by8wx

7 ай бұрын

People don't seem to understand that

@Max4ampion

7 ай бұрын

Agree, but it does not lag far behind, so it is much more convenient. Maybe DSLR cameras will be used for some events, but for everyday life a phone is much more comfortable.

@PeteCocoPhoto

7 ай бұрын

I never said that it could. I agree with you and I'm not hanging up my cameras any time soon.

@PeteCocoPhoto

7 ай бұрын

It all depends on your needs and wants. I will never stop using my cameras because I value image quality, manual control, user experience, etc. But if you just want nice snapshots of your family or vacation, a phone like this can easily replace a compact digital camera, which is why that market is all but dead now.

@ShinyTechThings

7 ай бұрын

But will a Google Pixel from 2035 be better than my Sony A7RIVa from today? 🤔 Computational photography is definitely the next big technology that will ultimately enter mirrorless and DSLR bodies I suspect within the next 3-5 years then things will get even more interesting. But for 1:1 comparison of megapixels small sensors vs a real camera sensor with the same development behind them will continue to step up and be more of a competitor over time so it will be interesting how it will evolve over the next decade for sure!