Good Deal? For Sale, Possible Z28? 1977 Camaro Junkyard Find
The yard recently got this 2nd Gen Fbody and they are putting it up for sale. This 1977 Chevy Camaro may or may not be a Z28. Either way, it appeared to be a good project. The body is in primer and does have body filler so it may have rust and or dents. The glass and tires looked to be in good shape and there was a full set of wheels. The interior wasn't in too bad of shape either with the seats being reupholstered along with a newer carpet. The door panels were good as well. The dash panel would need to be replaced. The tilt steering column waa damaged but a new aftermarket chrome column waa included. Under the hood the Chevy small block had an Edelbrock intake and air cleaner. Probably a summit brand polished carburetor and fuel pump were installed as well.The brakes were addressed, there was a fairly new exhaust and tubular upper control arms were installed. #willitbesaved
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Had a purple 76 back in 1990. Wish I still had it. Definitely a saver.
It's worth the price because of the 6X9 speakers. 😆 😆
@chloesamclutch
2 жыл бұрын
That was a pretty standard upgrade to anything back in the day. The engine upgrades could mean good or bad.
@mayeg3099
2 жыл бұрын
Are they Jensen 6x9 speakers? 😉
@garymckee448
2 жыл бұрын
@@mayeg3099 😆😆
@chloesamclutch
2 жыл бұрын
@@mayeg3099 Those had good sound!
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
I'm OK with the speaker upgrade as long as the package tray and other interior trim isn't ruined in the process. Things like a radio install should be able to be reversed and taken out so if you want to go back to stock you can do so.
Now that one brings back memories of high school/college in the early to mid 80s, where everyone had a (well) used 2nd gen f-body. I owned a '74 Type LT, which had that same big bumper front end style. It had a black exterior and black interior with Cragar SS wheels and everyone's favorite cheap tire, the cooper cobras. :) I had done mild work on the stock 350 block, headers, cherry bombs, all the classic go faster stuff from that era. It was fun, fast and could beat the kids with their new 3rd gens and fox bodies. Although, the Buick GNs from 86/87 would give me a good run. Fun times...Thanks for showing us that one my friend!
Good deal needs work but a really good start 😊
It looks like a good solid project! If it's really a Z28 it might be worth $3,500.00 but than you need a decent paint job and some interior parts to make as nice driver! If could get for $1,500 to $2,000 it would be a good deal! Thanks for sharing!
I grew up around camaros. My brothers had a 77 LT type and a 79 Z28. We had fun cruising around the neighborhood in them. 😎
@mayeg3099
2 жыл бұрын
The 79 camaro z28 had T-tops very nice.
@mayeg3099
2 жыл бұрын
They both had Jensen 3-way 6x9 speakers with realistic equalizer and sound system. 🔈🔉🔊🎶
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
@@mayeg3099 They would have been Fisher (GM) tops by then if factory equipment. Fisher tops became an option on F body cars in 1978.
Offer um 3k !! You be taking it home 💯💯
Lol you have that right about the Texas 100 degree weather.
Whoa Nelley, F body and hopefully it will be bought by somebody. Yes, the 1977 Z-28 was a "half year" of sorts as it made a return after last being offered in the 1974 model year. Contrast that to the Trans Am and they offered it through the "lean years", so that's one reason I've always preferred the Trans Am over the Camaro. But I still do like the Camaro. There were 14,349 Z-28s made for the 1977 model year. We got the VIN, we win: 1 for Chevrolet, Q for Camaro Sport Coupe, 87 for two door coupe, L for 350 V8 with four barrel, 7 for 1977 model year, L for Van Nuys, CA assembly and the rest is the production sequence. 1977 Camaros were made at both Norwood, OH and Van Nuys, CA, but Pontiac Firebirds were only made at Norwood, OH in 1977. Van Nuys would be added in 1978 due to the high Firebird demand (partially due to the success of Smokey and the Bandit in 1977). We got the tag, we can brag: ST77 for 1977 model year, 1FQ87 for Camaro Sport Coupe, L for Van Nuys, CA assembly, 19R for Black vinyl interior trim, A51 for bucket seats, W11L and W11U for water based Antique White upper and lower exterior paint, 06C for the third week of June 1977 production, B for black secondary interior trim (steering column and instrument panel), dash (-) for no power windows, dash (-) for Sport Coupe. The Van Nuys, CA plant, part of the "Terrible Three" plants in California operated from 1947 to 1992 and there are a mix of industrial and retail/commercial businesses on the property now, including Station 81 of the Los Angeles Fire Department. After August 1987 and through the 1992 model year, all F bodies were assembled at Van Nuys. Production moved to St. Therese, Quebec Canada for the 4th generation cars from 1993 to 2002. There were 20,347 Camaros painted this color in 1977, out of 218,843 total Camaros for 1977. Over 187,000 of them were V8 equipped. You could get a 250 CID straight six with one barrel, a 305 V8 with two barrel or a 350 V8 with four barrel as your engine choices in 1977. Water based paint was used at Van Nuys due to CA air regulations at the time and it was troublesome and many cars were left with sheets of paint coming off when they were just a few years old. Some owners got them painted under warranty, but many were left holding the bag because GM blamed the paint supplier and the paint supplier blamed GM. Yes, let's see a video on the Corvair. Ralph Nader will be frowning. LOL. I do not think it's a Z28, as instead of the dash at the end of the tag where it denotes Sport Coupe, a Z-28 had an "8" there on the tag of Van Nuys built cars. The door jamb sticker showing the 15" tire size was unique to the 1977 Z-28, but the cowl tag is missing the necessary code for Z-28. Thet "8" applies to Van Nuys built cars, Norwood tags tell you more information and less in code, so on a Norwood assembled car it would say "Z28" on it. The rear end ratio was either 2.56 or 3.08 when you got a 350 and an automatic in 1977, and with the Z-28 and automatic/350 combination you got a 3.42. You could get a 3.73 with the Z28/350 combination and a four speed. However, no four wheel disc brakes on a 2nd gen Camaro, only the Pontiac F body starting in 1979. As noted, I do like the Camaro, but give me a 1977 Trans Am over this any day. The Trans Am will out handle it, eat it alive and has a lot more class to it. By 1979, there was no comparison, the Trans Am was a superior car with WS6, special editions, rear disc brakes and the like, something the Camaro did not offer. Again, I wouldn't mind a clean Camaro, but it's Poncho for the Google Man if given a choice. Whoa Nelley, F body looking a bit shoddy. Sport Coupe took someone for a loop. 1977 and not going to Heaven. 3-5-0 and doesn't have to go. Made in CA and doesn't have to go away. Needed an 8 on the tag to be a Z-28, then it might be great. If it's repainted white, it could be out of sight. Inside was black, and with all those silly mods, it ain't worth jack. $3500 bucks and without a plan to fix it, you'll be out of luck. No WS6 but doesn't have to hit the bricks. Wasn't made at Norwood, and it ain't no good. Assembled in Van Nuys, not yet time to say your goodbyes. That's not it, not time to quit. Shouldn't be flat and that will not be that. Please don't get squished because even though you can't hold a candle to a Pontiac F body of that vintage, if you become a soda can, many here along with the Google Man will be very, very, very, very pissed.
@garymckee448
2 жыл бұрын
I only had one 2 gen Camaro and it was a 70 with the piece of crap 307 and I traded it for a 73 Plymouth Satellite station wagon, now that Camaro would be worth some money because the interior and body were in excellent condition. But I like station wagons for some wierd reason. And if I remember correctly it was a 130 mph speedometer like it would have ever seen that with that 307 😆
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
@@garymckee448 I was wondering, "Did he get married, have a family and then have to sell the Camaro?". When we bought the Trans Am in 1980, my sister and I were teens/pre-teens and my parents were in their late 30s. However, we had a "family car" (an '80 Bonneville Brougham coupe that was stolen in 1982) for trips and the like. The Trans Am was a 2nd car, and then by 1988, my mother never drove it again (it was originally her car, my dad bought it for their 15th wedding anniversary in 1980). We took the Trans Am on short trips, but it was useless for that. Couldn't fit any luggage in the trunk. LOL.
@garymckee448
2 жыл бұрын
@@googleusergp well I never been married or had any children that's why I could buy all those vehicles when I was young , but I started buying large vehicles like Plymouth Fury's because old people had them low miles and cheap but now I can't afford one and I make a lot more money now than then. I have a habit of if I can't pay cash for it I don't need it.lol
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
@@garymckee448 Nothing wrong with that. If I charge something, I make sure I have it covered. I do not believe in debt or carrying balances. That's how folks get behind and in trouble. I'd rather buy used Craftsman tools, toolboxes and such where I can because they do the same job, have the same warranty and save me money. I don't buy lawn equipment, I find it tossed at the curb and I figure out why it's there. Nine times out of ten, it's something simple. I just cut my lawn tonight with a mower my neighbor tossed out in 2019. The reason it wouldn't run? He overfilled it with oil, making him think he seized the engine. I changed the oil, putting it to the proper level, changed the plug and air filter and freed the engine. It started up, burned out the excess oil and it runs like a top. The one I use at my workshop garage came from the curb in 2011 and I've done nothing but maintenance to it and it runs like a top too. I'll be using that one tomorrow night.
@sixoaksfarm1556
2 жыл бұрын
@@googleusergp youre right. I had a 77.5 Z28 and that aint one.
Another buddy in high school had a new 77' camero, than daddy bought him a new 1980 Z 28 with T tops. Good fun spikoli
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
Camaro, not "Camero". LOL.
@mayeg3099
2 жыл бұрын
Was it a high school in Dallas by chance?
I had a rusted out 78 Camaro with a 250 straight 6. Drove it till it wasn't safe. I miss that car
I grew up in this era. It looks saveable. Definitely had some love, every Midwest Camaro/Firebird had rear quarter rust, now how bad it is is the question. And how hard did they rev the hot rod engine, obviously a mouse that may or may not have been bored/stroked. Could be a 383 built, who knows
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
I agree, we need engine numbers off the block (which are right up top on a Chevrolet V8) to determine what we have there.
@nealsidor1323
2 жыл бұрын
From experience I'd guess the motor is toast but short block 350s r relatively cheap. That thing has over three grand in aftermarket parts...
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
@@nealsidor1323 That stuff all looks like hooptie cheapie aftermarket equipment, bought straight from a Summit or Jegs catalog.
@nealsidor1323
2 жыл бұрын
@@googleusergp Still, up here in da snow belt, that hoop would bring alot more than $3,500, or with a short block 'n a little TLC, a nice daily driver.
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
@@nealsidor1323 Must be a lot of Dutchie passing up there. LOL. This one is a hooptie do.
Little rough, but definitely a food starting point.
Chevrolet brought back the Camaro Z28 which this car a 1977 model was more show than go. The last Camaro was sold in the 1974 model year. You can go to places such as year one to get the restoration parts you need and you can google places that also do air conditioning, but you would have to retrofit it with the R134a system. That car used R12 but it is getting extremely expensive and rare nowadays.
A perfect candidate for an awesome project
For the amount of body and mechanical work that car will need, I'd say it's worth about $1500.
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
I'd say you're right in a "normal" climate, but today, everything is "collectable". I'd say $2000 is fair if it checks out. But as others said, lots of hidden sins on this one.
@bmstylee
2 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing a lot of to tin is going to need replaced give the amount of filler you can see. There is probably a lot you can't see.
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
@@bmstylee Start with the restoration parts catalog sheet metal section, and then make sure you have a high limit on the credit card you're using. You're going to be a frequent customer. LOL.
@bmstylee
2 жыл бұрын
@@googleusergp I can see the build in my head. But my bank account says it's not willing to play ball.
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
@@bmstylee Rebuild not build. GM builds them once, hobbyists rebuild them.
The rear quarters suffer on most of these cars. This Camero could be a candidate for restoration.
I bought a really nice completely rust free 1979 Camaro Berlinetta back in 1985. Original AZ car, no bondo. Beautiful interior. I don't see why people are so concerned about a '77 being a Z28 or not, by that time the Z28 was nothing but a graphics package. As with any '70s or earlier car, you can now put whatever you want under the hood. You can have as much power as you can afford. Late second generation Z28s were ridiculously underpowered.
'76's and '77's are very close in appearence....they both have the wrap aroung rear light fixture and the same front bumper that sticks way out.
@carlinshowalter1806
Жыл бұрын
74 and 75 had big bumpers like that.1975 was the first year for that back window.
A good cleaning and respectable paint job and at $3500.00 you could make some profit with the right buyer.
@bmstylee
2 жыл бұрын
The whole driver side needs reskinned. You can see a lot of filler.
@carlinshowalter1806
Жыл бұрын
@@bmstylee Whole damn car is rough.
that’s is the exact same car I had in the navy😮🙌🏼👏🏼😎 ran a stop sign someone hit me and it disintegrated because of all the rust 😬🙄🤨
Has the blacked out headlight bezels, rear sway bar, rims. Could be a real Z. Up north here in the rust belt the body alone would be 3K.
Cool car, definitely a saver. Thanks
And all z/28 were made before April in 77 as far as i know from what I have read about them . they were supposed to get the hood scoop that was on the 78 but the equipment to make them failed out so they just sent them out with the decal kits to the dealers any way then halted the idea till they could gear up for the 78 model year with the hood scoop and side scoops and new nose cap.
$3500? I see $1500 tops. The whole driver side needs redone. Lots of filler to repair. Passenger side door is messed up as well. But man I would love to try to rebuild her. Turbo EFI small block, Tremec 6 speed, 12 bolt with a Detroit locker, modernize the suspension a bit, 4 wheel discs, Crager S/S wheels, stock interior with some Recaros, BMW Portimao blue paint. Oh I can see it......now if only my wallet was on the same page.
It’s a 1977 Z28. At 2:34 it shows the Tire Pressure tag when he opens the drivers door. Only the Z28 had GR70/15 tires on 15x7” wheels, all other Camaro’s had 14” tires/wheels. The trim tag on the firewall will list ‘Z28’ if it’s a Norwood built Camaro, the trim tags on Van Nuys CA cars did not. This car has the standard Sport Coupe interior. The Custom interior (Type LT) was an option. I factory ordered a white Z28 in ‘77, and good friend ordered a black one, both were 4 speed cars, 3:73 posi.. Great cars. There were no Z28’s for 1975 and 1976. 1970 to 1974 Camaro’s had the small rear window, 1975 to 1981 had the larger rear window.
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
True on the tires, but on the cowl tag, that's not entirely correct. Van Nuys cars had an "8" on the trim tag to denote Z28 in 1977, and Norwood cars had "Z28" on them. This car has a dash where the "8" should be. A dash there denotes Sport Coupe, not Z28 in 1977 on a Van Nuys, CA assembled car.
Always loved that body style
Door tire sticker indicates GR70-15, 26PSI. More indication it's more than likely a rear 77Z.
I hope someone gives it a good home
Ouch what happen!!! The 77 gmc, great deal.
The Z/28 had a rear sway bar,others didn't unless someone ordered the F41 sport suspension.Also had the black grille/head light doors. Bumpers were painted instead of raw aluminum color too.
I don't mind the 77's but I like the 78,,79 and the 80's one is my favorite..that car is undercoated..it's not in bad shape what's under the hood 400 be good..wow that engine is rebuilt prob has a cam and stuff..yah buddy..35 hundred oh little bit high priced best I'd do is 3 G's
I'd would love to buy this Camaro 1977.
Owned one, Z28... All black ,MINT... 1977... SOLD IT TO SOMEONE WHO DIDN'T RESPECT ITS POWER... The kid rolled it over in front of me on Rt. 2, TOTALLED IT, FLIPPED THE CAR UPSIDE DOWN... I might of called him an Idiot as he was sliding out of the crushed Z28, laying in the grass, now it starts pouring rain on him... Tow truck was called only, Gary was fine... No one got hurt in the accident... I was hurt, looking at my 1977 Z28 totalled,Gary sitting in the grass, not many people had cell phones back then,note... Rain was seriously pouring on Gary waiting for the Towtruck... this event in Gary totalling my Z28 in less than 2 weeks after I sold it to him is also in my book... true...
@TEACHERSSEES
2 жыл бұрын
Okay, the first time our friends in the neighborhood met Gary, he was about 12 -13 years old, years Pryor to me selling him the Z28, he was just a kid that wanted to go swimming at SPEC POND, Massachusetts... Gary was a good kid, never in trouble so we took him swimming with parental consent... We built a 80ft TARZAN SWING that would launch ANYONE 70 FT. in the air... Truthfully, the swing was kind of dangerous to go on, I wont lie... You had to climb up roots and rocks on a 45 degree angle with the rope held in your mouth because you need both hands and both feet to climb way up there... IF YOU DONT HOLD ON TIGHT AND IF YOU CANT HOLD YOUR WEIGHT UPON THE G-FORCE THIS TARZAN IS WHIPPING YOU OUT THERE HIGHER AND FASTER THAN YOU ARE USE TO... "Listen, just hold onto this knot and put your foot on the bottom knot of the rope.." " Simple." " Make sure you let go of the rope over the water, not over the roots and granite rocks." Gary swears, in front of all the cute girls there that he will be fine, dont worry, walking towards the swing like a tough-guy... this is not going to end well... he shouldn't do it, said to self, him...
@TEACHERSSEES
2 жыл бұрын
Give you the final, if care to know... ONE THING about the Tarzan swing... You have to hold on to the top knot on the rope... The bottom knot comes 10 inches to the ground, granite rocks, roots from the Pine trees holding up the swing... MAKE SURE you hold on to that TOP KNOT, GARY... GUESS WHICH KNOT HE RUFUSED TO HOLD ON TO...??? So, Gary decides to hold onto the lower knot... " Dont do that...!" HONESTLY , ONLY I, and 3 other people tried to stop Gary from swinging from the bottom knot, Gary slamming into most of the ground, holding tightly, he did, rolling into the beginning of the shoreline barely getting wet... I CLIMB DOWN TO GET HIM... Gary,still holding the rope, stands up, slowly, yup... He has huge scrape up one side of his chest, swirls around his neck, leads down the opposite side of his back, scraped up knee... No major bleeding, or broken bones or fractures of any kind... I stopped the bleeding with beach towels, after I yelled at him for wanting to go BACK ON THE SWING FOR A SECOND TRY... " "NO FUC WAY, MAN...!!" Gary wanted to go back on the swing fr a second try, so he can look all buff in front of the girls around, upsetting me... " Gary..!" Drop the swing.." " You look like,one swing away ,from being sold as Hamburg to the nearest Supermarket...!!! Most of us laughed ,at that joke... I didn't, and I said it... I let Gary keep the bloodybeac towel...
@TEACHERSSEES
2 жыл бұрын
9 years later, after not seeing Gary around our block, I run into him.. My girlfriend Lisa and I were shopping, met Gary, months later we sell him the Z28... "This car is no normal Z28, Gary..." one more time, Gary doesn't listen to me... hmmm miss that Z, BIGTIME... THX
@TEACHERSSEES
2 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoyed a bit of my book... PEACE OUT...
Hell yeah I'd pay that. You can't get a muscle car for any cheap price.
$3500.00? That is a steal. Especially if it's a real Z28...
Definitely a good deal, So Benny are we going to the videos of your car and the progress on it anytime soon?
Not a Corvair fan? lol I hate them too but I will cut the steering box out of one. They also have the same buckets as full size so sometimes you can flip those.
I've been looking for a 1977 Camaro, want it so bad
WTH! Another great project car😭
Assuming the left door is original,the tire information label on it will say what tire size the car came with.The Z28 had 15 inch-lesser models 14 inch.May give a clue.
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
But missing the "8" on the cowl tag for a Van Nuys, CA made car which indicated Z28. Norwood, OH cars had "Z28" on the tag. This one has a dash in that spot which denotes Sport Coupe, not Z28.
Not bad needs some TLC ,she got potential. The price ehh not bad.
Good score. If I was more $ up I could bring her down under.
My Niece wants one.
Love it worth it
Heck yeah that's a sweet 1
I would take that 1st gen Corvair
Good find . Definitely a good project car. Throw $30,000 at it.
Here in Ohio a car in that kind of shape would be 5K minimum
@chloesamclutch
2 жыл бұрын
Lot of bondo. Love the car and seen many repaired back in the 80s with fender rust but it's 2022! I think it's savable
Maybe Google man can tell us if it is a real Z28?
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
I say no. Lacks the "8" on the cowl tag, which for a 1977 Van Nuys car would denote Z-28. Norwood cars had Z28 on the tag.
@backpi
2 жыл бұрын
@@googleusergp Something was telling me it was not a real Z28. Thanks for letting us all know. 👋🏾👍🏾
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
@@backpi Sure thing. It might have parts that were swapped in at one point, that's for sure. I'll buy that. But going by the numbers, the dash where there would be an 8 on a Van Nuys car tells us it's a sport coupe with a 350.
@backpi
2 жыл бұрын
@@googleusergp I definitely agree.. I think it's worth 3K anyway! Great project.
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
@@backpi I'd say $2k with all the issues. You have do a lot of redo on this one, as it's been hooptied up with too many hands in it.
Well worth the $3500!!!!
I have a yard full of these both rs Berlinetta’s and Z 28 lol lol through the years I have got rid of them to race cars guys but I have three parts cars left lol nice 1975 and old are smog exempt out here in California ,1976 and newer have to be smog they’re complete worthless in California just for the parts that’s all they’re good for , lol he front stub’s are all over the place in street rods and IMCA modified race cars , lol one good thing with these cars all f the repop stuff is readily available parts lolnice thanks buddy BigAl California praise Jesus Christ grace amen 🙏
@JT-un7dc
2 жыл бұрын
Midwest guys would love those Cali bodies.
Yes it has a big back window. It's a 77
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
1975 and up were like that with regard to the large rear window.
Man I can see her in black paint with a set of centerline wheels 😍
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
I'd to see it brought back to as new condition in 1977.
@bmstylee
2 жыл бұрын
I see some modern Crager S/S wheels, a turbo small block, Tremec 6 speed, and a 12 bolt. Paint it the blue BMW used on the i8. But that's just me.
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
@@bmstylee Sure, we all have our opinion. Mine is to put it back to 1977 stock condition. I'm not much for aftermarket stuff. It's never designed right and looks awful under the hood, but that's just me.
That is a great price. If I had 3 grand I would buy it.
That total weight on the door tag can't be right??? I thought Z-28s weighed around 3800 pounds, not 4700???
Easy restore project 77 I had a 74 years ago this is in better shape.nice what's the price.
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
Nothing easy about this, especially on your wallet. You'll easily go for thousands to make it right. There's a lot hiding under all of that primer as Benny pointed out.
Build a mild 406 some 373 gears . Dammit boy I love these cars
@bmstylee
2 жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of a turbo small block and a 6 speed and you have something fun. Clean up the body work and get a decent paint job and you have a cool cruiser.
Benny if you are looking for another project make them an offer. Low ball em.
I would live to have it ,
Z28 with berlinetta seats for some reason
Like them Z28 rally wheels. It would be nice if they would make them in a 17" aluminum now a days.
still miss that car…
That car is worth every penny. Too bad our piece of shit president has got us all messed up. It's hard to get enthusiastic about this stuff anymore
Buddy stuck a V8 mid engine in a corvair Pretty bad ass!
@dopeytripod
2 жыл бұрын
the amphibious Corphibian Loadside pickup is bad ass but from the factory
@bmstylee
2 жыл бұрын
That's cool. I remember going to a swap meet years ago and a guy put a 455 Olds in one. I asked why and he said because a buddy said he couldn't make it fit. That thing was probably scary on multiple levels.
Pricey for the shape 🙈🙈
And its the only year that the z28 was an LT first . not a separate model from what I understand . that's why there is no way to define them from the vin tag. Unless as trim option maybe .
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
Trim tag would have an "8" for Z-28 if assembled in Van Nuys like this one was.
these cars went for 3500 dollars in the 80s. but they ran well and would be 20K now.
and they sold for 8k in europe in this condition...
Can be great project but Vin not clear. If it's an real Z28 🤔
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
The VIN doesn't tell you if it's a Z-28 or not. The cowl tag does and being this is a Van Nuys, CA assembled car, a Z-28 has an "8" at the bottom of the tag. This has a dash (-) there, so this a sport coupe with a 350. Norwood, OH made cars would have Z28 stamped on the tag instead of the "8" like Van Nuys did.
If it had a small back window it 76 the 77 had a bigger back window two 81. But if it is a 76 Z28 tea tops that's a very rare car that was only a one-year car too. Because 75 was different.
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
There was no 1975-1976 Z-28. It stopped after 1974 and came back mid-year 1977. Also, the "big" rear window was 1975 and up.
Too much-hidden rust.
Two grand tops maybe 2500
How’d you change your sub frame mounts was it difficult?
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
They can be a PITA if the bolts get stuck as they are "caged" nuts and people get the idea that air power does it. Oftentimes when you do that, you bust the cage nuts and then you've got trouble.
Where is it for sale at. I’d like to contact the seller!
@ClassicRideSociety
2 жыл бұрын
Crain's in Ft Worth Texas
This sold? Where you at?
@ClassicRideSociety
Жыл бұрын
Still there. Crains in ft Worth Texas
The Corsair looks more interesting
Where is this car at.
I'm for saving any F body
Well you'd better come back and do a video on that corvair 😂
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
I agree, it's interesting. Ralph Nader would not approve.....
@terrencegiordan2775
2 жыл бұрын
Even new were a piece of crap
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
@@terrencegiordan2775 They had their followers, but yes, they were troublesome.
@LittleAnastasia...
2 жыл бұрын
@@googleusergp it really was dangerous. The first generation at least.
@LittleAnastasia...
2 жыл бұрын
@@terrencegiordan2775 all cars were crappy death traps back then. Poor handling and awful brakes equals ⚰ 🌹 🥀 💀 ☠
Da covax got another project car sent to the grave.
$3,500 all day long man... I've seen worse in my area for 5 ,000 or more..
Where is this at?
@ClassicRideSociety
2 жыл бұрын
Crains in ft worth Texas
Where's it being sold at?
@ClassicRideSociety
2 жыл бұрын
Crain's in Ft Worth Texas
@the_one_pretzel
2 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicRideSociety thank you
What bout that there corvair
@ClassicRideSociety
2 жыл бұрын
It's for sale as well. I didn't ask the info on it though
You should buy it and fix it up love your video
What wrong with a corvair..I like them..
@terrencegiordan2775
2 жыл бұрын
Junk
@anthonycoach4551
2 жыл бұрын
@@terrencegiordan2775 why there cool looking but they do run for crap..
Take it home!
@ClassicRideSociety
2 жыл бұрын
I've got a 77 firebird that I need to get going first
Well no z28 75 and 76 rear sway bar is too small for one . 77 z28 was decals only no hood scoop or side scoops. Just rear spoiler and front chin spoiler and that area is missing so Posibly , no way to tell by the vin tag in 77.
@Mo-Town_Auto_Icons
2 жыл бұрын
His ''Plant batch code'' on trim tag says its a Sport Coupe not a Z28, that 153727 would have a 8 before it...because its a Cali car
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
@@Mo-Town_Auto_Icons Correct. This is a likely a sport coupe with a 350 V8, but not a Z-28. The "8" on the trim tag applies to Van Nuys, CA assembled cars. The Norwood cars had Z28 on the tag.
@Mo-Town_Auto_Icons
2 жыл бұрын
@@googleusergp ...its the L in the 3rd spot that makes it a Cali car but yes the Ohio cars do have Z28 on the tag if so
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
@@Mo-Town_Auto_Icons I know that. The "L" in the top row of the cowl tag means "Los Angeles". Van Nuys is a suburb of LA. The second "L" in the VIN denotes Van Nuys, CA assembly whereby an "N" is Norwood, OH.
@Mo-Town_Auto_Icons
2 жыл бұрын
@@googleusergp I was just commenting on when you said 8 meant VanNuys
Only to o those who are in the click that have access to the vehicles.
NOT a Z/28....its a California car so if a Z/28 there should be a ''8'' before the PLANT BATCH CODE (153727) which would look like this ''8 153727'' The spot before this cars BATCH CODE is ''blank'' making it a SPORT COUPLE (8=Z28, S= Berlinetta, Z=RS, "blank''=SC) also the car was WHITE on WHITE (11L, 11U) w/BLACK VINYL interior (19R) In my opinion I do not think its worth $3500, maybe$2800/$3000 TOPS now Yes if it was a Z28 and the correct color, not full of bondo and had a Black vinyl interior $3500 EASY but Im not knocking the car, I like it, it screams BRACKET RACING
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
Correct. The "8" on the cowl tag of a Van Nuys made car indicates a Z-28 in 1977. This is likely a sport coupe with a 350 V8.
Loli te sticket kelly a ir force base San Antonio tx
Bondo is a no-no.
The tach the steering wheel everything points to a real Z28
@chloesamclutch
2 жыл бұрын
The Camaro had factory tach period
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
Nope. Missing the "8" on the Van Nuys cowl tag. Appears from what I can tell to be a sport coupe with a 350. The literature from the time doesn't restrict the 350 to the Z-28.
@chloesamclutch
2 жыл бұрын
@@googleusergp Well yeah, like I said, I'm just an old guy who has been in and driven a few. Z/28 was more of a stripe sticker and suspension deal. That engine might make it worthwhile though
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
@@chloesamclutch My parents bought an F body new in 1980 that I still have, so yes, I've been around them for a good part of my life. The numbers tell us this is a Sport Coupe with a 350 in it. The Z-28 had a specific RPO code "LM1" V8 with specific internals that the "non Z-28" 350 didn't have in 1977.
@chloesamclutch
2 жыл бұрын
@@googleusergp I'm replying as an enthusiast and someone who grew up in this era. Who cares, it's a reasonable rust free ish Camaro from back in the day with performance upgrades. It could still be a nice ride. Never ridden in or drove one that didn't have a tachometer
75,76,77, there were no Z28s,came back in 78
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
That's incorrect. The Z28 came back out for the 1977 model year, albeit somewhat mid-year.
First like, 1st comment, and 5 min. Bella is ringing as it should be
Very fixable...
@zombiefarmer1985
2 жыл бұрын
All except the Cowboys floor mats 😆
Cool video but $3500 for that bondo bucket lol. It’s maybe worth $350.
if it says 06 of '77, than its a '78 isnt it? but my opinion is keep away from this
@googleusergp
2 жыл бұрын
No, it's a 1977. The VIN of 1Q87L7L123456 is 1 for Chevrolet, Q for Sport Coupe, 87 for two door coupe, L for 350 V8 with four barrel, 7 for 1977 model year (1978 would be 8), L for Van Nuys, CA assembly and then the rest is the production sequence. This is a 1977. Plus "ST77" on the cowl tag is 1977.
No thank you. Please.