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@garouthedemon7401

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah

@Damage_edits

Жыл бұрын

W

@Prantikde

Жыл бұрын

Can you do Naruto vs Natsu?

@HoodedSpidey

Жыл бұрын

Could Batman learn Naruto’s ninjutsu?

@HoodedSpidey

Жыл бұрын

Could Batman take down Wanda Maximoff? Bonus points if you mention her blatant weakness to stealth attacks ala Cap. Carter.

I don't understand how some people would think Saitama, a man with no formal martial arts training, would beat a guy who dedicated his entire life to it through skill alone

@fisal8942

Жыл бұрын

Saitama has shown to copy techniques in the last few chapters.

@anubis4032

Жыл бұрын

Saitama shouldn't even be here he isnt a martial artist he did one tournament now he's somehow a martial artist 😂

@rabbunn

Жыл бұрын

@@fisal8942 he may copy them but does that mean he just has it mastered tho

@leafzwrld9127

Жыл бұрын

@@fisal8942 he can't copy techniques anymore since he went back in time and forgot all about it

@Amine-om7yj

Жыл бұрын

@@rabbunn when you copy a technique you can use it

I think we’re in a parallel world where your boy Seth uploads consistently. I’m all for it🙏

@MEMNONWARRIOR

Жыл бұрын

He wants that bag back up

@thesilvershota3091

Жыл бұрын

That’s just how Seth works. He doesn’t upload for a couple month, then he spurts out uploads like a mad man. Wince and repeat.

@hoodie7257

Жыл бұрын

December the best month for ad revenue

@drunkenrambler8138

Жыл бұрын

He said he was gonna upload at least 7 videos this month.

@mirror857

Жыл бұрын

It’s just because of the Ad Revenue, but whatever eh?

People forget that classic Dragon Ball was a heavily inspired by real martial arts series, and it shows in how detailed martial art sequences are presented in the series.

@zqninja3334

Жыл бұрын

But Batman was a thing years before Dragon Ball...

@romesrepublic

Жыл бұрын

Also, no one in the Dragonball universe seems to know how to grapple, only striking. Batman would just take them down and choke them out🤣

@ekemenaememere6954

Жыл бұрын

@@romesrepublic facts😂😂

@tylerthompson3075

Жыл бұрын

@@romesrepublic Dragon ball and dragon ball Z shows the use of grappling many times. Often Goku or someone else gets put in a chokehold, (the famous Goku bites Frieza's tail scene) though you pretty much never see it in the Tenkaichi Budokai probably because it's a tournament, with rules. You are correct, in that grappling is very effective against human opponents, but in Dragon Ball as a whole many of Goku's foes don't need to breathe, and their physiology/circulatory systems might even be in their skeleton so choking them wouldn't really do much. Like do Frieza or Cell have a blood supply that could be cut off by strangling the neck? Neither of them appear to need to BREATHE, so maybe their biology isn't something that a chokehold would work on. And it certainly wouldn't work on the Androids/Cyborgs/Majiin Buu. Batman fucks people up like a Batman does. Goku fucks people up like an alien does.

@romesrepublic

Жыл бұрын

@Tyler Thompson Aliens in the DBZ universe are a whole nother thing entirely. Frieza, Buu, and a lot of the others can survive in space, with half of their bodies missing. But if you made Goku a human, even with all of his training, skills, and experience, Batman would still destroy him with relative ease. Batman is bigger, stronger, longer reach, and has a more complete knowledge of martial arts than any of the Z fighters. You need powers to beat Batman, plain and simple. Even then, there's no guarantee you'll win unless you catch him completely off guard.

One of my favorite things about the super manga is that it explains ultra instinct MUCH better than the anime by having roshi ask goku "when did martial arts become about who has the higher power level?" And then having him remember all the lessons his previous masters were teaching him which almost all centered around conservation of energy when moving and dodging, honing his martial arts technique rather than his physical power.

@warangelcpgamebreak

Жыл бұрын

Thank you. I always liked they way Master Roshi gave Goku some advice to achieve Ultra Instinct. Now you may not like that Master Roshi Psuedo version of "Ultra Instinct" but master Roshi has done drunken boxing before.

@brawler8839

Жыл бұрын

@@warangelcpgamebreak no tbh i think the martial arts master whos like 100+ years old nowing how to do a pseudo ultra instinct makes perfect sense and reinforces the idea that ultra instinct is more of a technique than a form which the manga expands upon in the gas/granola arc.

@warangelcpgamebreak

Жыл бұрын

@@brawler8839 That's cool that somone appreciates that. I also took it as Toyotaro showing he appreciates Toriyama.

@flapjackssyrup3905

Жыл бұрын

The series gave a great example of that when Goku fought Freiza when he brought Freiza back from his hell. Freiza supposedly trained for the first time in his life, gained a new form and got ridiculously powerful. Freiza lost all his steam and lost the fight because he trained up to that form but didn’t train using that form.

@mihailmilev9909

Жыл бұрын

@@brawler8839 same I think it makes perfect sense and is a nice appreciation of Roshi

Seth getting as many videos as he can in before he goes into hibernation again

@D_Owo

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@frostyforeskin4431

Жыл бұрын

Yeah 4 month hiatus incoming for sure

@Dylan_Norris

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, bro is snatching that increased December Revenue lol

@princecheck11

Жыл бұрын

he trynna get a million subscribers before 2023 😂😂😂

@dw3134

Жыл бұрын

He was probably making these videos while he was on hiatus and is releasing them now. If i had to guess, he's probably making more while pumping out videos he's already made.

I love how people are like, "Ok but who wins without powers" Goku is still a great martial artist and still a big problem without his Ki

@JoJioArkhamCityEdition

Жыл бұрын

I think we are putting Goku in the same level as Batman in this fight

@DripNingen

Жыл бұрын

@@JoJioArkhamCityEdition yeah and then only techniques matter and i think goku has more techniques than batman

@some_shitposting_idiot3023

Жыл бұрын

@@DripNingen batman is far more skilled than Goku Goku is highly skilled but batman definitely has the upper hand

@pitpun11

Жыл бұрын

@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 ???

@cooldude2794

Жыл бұрын

@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 that is just... false?

Man, Seth's content since his return has taken a huge step up in quality. I feel like the analysis he does now is really just next level.

This needs to be a whole series. Seriously I'm really interested in the next one

I swear Seth rly has recently come up with the most creative video ideas that I'm always interested in

@visible8183

Жыл бұрын

Where 💀💀💀

@tarnish9051

Жыл бұрын

@@visible8183 you’re commenting on one of them numbhead

@homomagii

Жыл бұрын

Idk about that he doesn’t talk about other series I’m tired of db Naruto videos we need some new shit

@AndrewAce.

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. It's never just the same old stuff...

@adsfddsdfsfsdsasofsavgdhua4879

Жыл бұрын

why are you eating his meat so bad..... martial arts only 1v1's are quite popular rn its not as if he single handedly thought of the concept himself

...straight up, I actually did learn a little bit about Goku and did gain a little respect for his hands, so well done. I would love to see someone animate Adam West's Batman beating Goku though, it'd be hilarious nonsense.

@ascendedreality8546

Жыл бұрын

I love Adam Wests batman, that would be great.

@dizzyheads

Жыл бұрын

Goku used to be mostly about martial arts but now's its mostly about forms are bigger sticks

@Kerwell

Жыл бұрын

@@dizzyheadstrue and I totally get why some people would dislike it for that reason, but I just like seeing my guy stomp baddies

@JKurayami

Жыл бұрын

@@Kerwell I'd be ok with it if they didn't regress the character in Super in order to do it. Having him not know what meditation is, and having the empty mind which is taught by pretty much all basic eastern martial arts. I can't stand it.

@syntinel9481

Жыл бұрын

@@JKurayami The mediation part is a stretch, I agree. They really wrote Goku to not know the roots of martial arts, lol. However, true mental emptiness in actuality is incredibly hard to achieve. It's easy to simulate some degree of it, but to completely leave out every single thought besides you, your opponent, and the battle you're in together is probably not even humanly possible (to the credit of Super).

Goku could keep up with and adapt to martial Arts masters when he was a kid. That was before Korin's training where he could predict how his opponents are going to move by reading their breathing. Or Popo's training where he learned how to make his movements so effecient he can put on a bell and then do a flip without ringing it. Or how by the time we get to the Android saga he has lowkey telepathy can can search people's feelings. He has a huge bag of tricks that have nothing to do with power levels and that's not even factoring it that he's very experienced. Maybe not to the level of Batman but he's been around

@jacobharris954

Жыл бұрын

He far more experienced than bat man it like comparing a elite world class boxing champion and amateur

@asta.7393

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobharris954 ?????

@jacobharris954

Жыл бұрын

@@asta.7393 Goku is elite level master he is Floyd while batman youtube boxer in comparison. There levels to this.

@asta.7393

Жыл бұрын

@@jacobharris954 Wtf is vro talking about

@jacobharris954

Жыл бұрын

@@asta.7393 Do you study martial artist, if you did you would understand

Can Seth beat his new cellmate (martial arts only).

Goku is VERY adaptable that’s one if his greatest feats in a real world. So anyone who fights him would have to constantly change up very quick constantly.

@randomcatname7792

Жыл бұрын

Which Batman is entirely capable of

@toasterowens8916

Жыл бұрын

Soo batman

@headcannon5105

Жыл бұрын

Batman has more intuition and has the same, if not more intution than Goku. This also has me beliveing that Batman would be the only human with Ultra Instinc if he was in dragonball. Hardwork in Dragonball takes you far

@Weebgamer236

Жыл бұрын

Have you read the god of highschool manhwa jin mori is a beast.

@OK-yy6qz

Жыл бұрын

Which Batman is very capable off since he knows 50+ fighting styles plus variations of his own and is capable of adapting really damn well himself (to the point of defeating opponents such as Deathstroke,Lady Shiva and Cassandra Cain who can literally read,copy and predict movements)

I despise how much goku is underestimated when it comes to his martial arts skill. People just think he's a golden monkey shooty blue beam man. He's a martial arts master who has learned from countless masters. He'd also arguably still have the ability of reacting with his body and not his mind, so a ultra instinct sign is theoretically still fundamentally possible even if we grant no powers. Reacting with his body and not his mind has nothing to do with powers, so he'd arguably still have godly reaction.

@crestofhonor2349

Жыл бұрын

That's probably because most people haven't seen OG DB

@ProjektTaku

Жыл бұрын

@@crestofhonor2349 yup. Love og db for the skill and technique based fighting, also why I love kengan ashura.

@ProjektTaku

Жыл бұрын

all goku has to do is utilize his instincts and he has UI in base. We've seen that in the manga he doesn't have to transform to use the UI technique, so while he's not getting stronger, his reaction time will still be crazy.

@raphbolt7715

Жыл бұрын

Did you forget about Divine energy/God ki since its a angel level technique that is used to activate UI omen, sign, and Sayain Instinct (manga) as well as the aura which is seen the heat it caused within TOP arc in his final fight against Jiren and since Goku is using the technique improperly as stated by Whis UI for goku is a power up itself considering the negative side effects of stamina drain as the fight prolongs this is a fight with no powers LOL so it cannot be used even whis himself has demonstrated over and over using UI with no aura around him showing his TRUE mastery. And we have seen base goku get bruised on his arm from bullets in DBS anime episode 77 showing that he to has human level durability even the fact that a laser gun was able to almost kill a SSG blue fatigued Goku in "Resurrection of F Movie". Goku also drops his guard a lot of times showcasing his recklessness to which Whis and other have to point that out to him when they train seriously meanwhile batman is more polished, perfected, and resourceful a master tactician.

@mitchellbailey6258

Жыл бұрын

@@raphbolt7715 pretty sure Goku uses his ui as a regular ssj vs granolah but i may be misremembering. Goku being hit by the bullets is irrelevant as its filler.

Really good take. I never knew that much about Goku's technique and skill. Also great pacing in the video. Overall, another Seth W.

Seth vs allegations who would win ?, find out now on Sethball Z

@Eggshd

6 ай бұрын

Depends. How long is prep time? We going with current Seth? Is he at base? Does research work in this universe or we just doing ad hominems?

Please never stop generating creative videos like this, turning shower thought like "what if" questions into actual detailed vids. I swear a Playlist of these would be like drinking crack with cookies.

@ivanthehighman177

Жыл бұрын

Ikr! I like my what if fan fics time to time but they really have ruined the true meaning if what if detailed analyst videos.

@CorwinJHarris

Жыл бұрын

💀crack and cookies is bizarreee

This highlights my biggest problem with batman. He is not "human" and has not been for a very long time. Half of the things he does are physically impossible for a human regardless of technique or skill because our physiology has built-in limitations. Being smart enough to know where the god-like being moving at light speed is going to punch him won't help when he is being hit a million times before his brain can physically send the signal to his mussels to move. If he can somehow react to that, then by definition he is superhuman and thus no longer "human". It's exactly like his sneaking around superman feats. Superman has been shown to hear beyond dimensions so no amount of skill would make it possible for an actual human to go undetected. batman would somehow have to move without his neurons firing, without his mussels moving, without any internal biological functions occurring and without moving attoms to be that silent and no amount of skill makes that possible.

@Crunchysopa52

Жыл бұрын

lol thx you, Batman stopped being just "peak human" a long time ago

@prime5991

Жыл бұрын

This might be why Amanda waller classifys batman as metahuman. It makes more sense this way rather than just a plot armor excuse

@synctrox9679

Жыл бұрын

As a peak dbz nerd, this match is when goku and batman are on same speed and power output Just texhnique

@7heKl0wnG0D

Жыл бұрын

It's called Will and Determination

@kaiserbarbarossa5605

Жыл бұрын

@@7heKl0wnG0D that's not how any of this works.

Kinda wish Seth went over goku's techniques that aren't ki related like the afterimage technique or used statements in the manga and other sources that tell us what fighting style goku uses. It wouldn't change the outcome in the slightest just would've been nice to see.

@troylit3141

Жыл бұрын

What human can do after images in real life?

@Tripp247

Жыл бұрын

@@troylit3141 batman

@SoulWarriorSF

Жыл бұрын

@@Tripp247 no he cant

@Tripp247

Жыл бұрын

@@SoulWarriorSF it was a joke, obviously batman doesn’t move at flash speeds

@tonyravioli1982

Жыл бұрын

@@Tripp247 yet.

During Gokus fight with ssj2 Caulifla, caulifla was actually 5 times gokus power level, but even with that he was able to keep up with her while being tired. Edit- she was actually 50x stronger

@christopherbianco9298

Жыл бұрын

I was saying this exact same thing when Goku fought Cell Cell was easily 1.5-2x stronger than Goku was when they battled but Goku was able to keep up with raw power because of how skilled he is as a martial artist.

“That other scenario wasn’t interesting, this one right here is interesting” -Seth lol

@theoneaboveallothers

Жыл бұрын

Yeah because batman has 80 years of lore & multiple different writers. if they use their prime Canon forms it'll be true MUI Goku vs TBWL or Final armor Batman. Essentially a guy who can possibly punch away a universe, & shake a void for some minutes at best (goku) vs a guy who can rewrite the multiverse into whatever he likes (TBWL or Final armor batman) Not a fair fight, I don't see it being much of a challenge for batman to be honest.

“Batman has learned martial arts, and so does Goku, but Batman has learned *more* martial arts, so I think he’d probably beat Goku.” - Death Battle, probably

@DripNingen

Жыл бұрын

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't goku learn martial arts that are not even from this world ??? And literally created his own style as a kid ?!!?!??

@some_shitposting_idiot3023

Жыл бұрын

@@DripNingen wasn't his own style only possible due to his tail? Which he doesn't have anymore

@cooldude2794

Жыл бұрын

@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 Fr his tail? you mean the thing that has been gone for over 30 years? I didnt see goku rely on his tail in the cell games is all ima say lol.

@DripNingen

Жыл бұрын

@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 wdym his tail ?? His tail doesn't makes him a martial artist lmao

@some_shitposting_idiot3023

Жыл бұрын

@@cooldude2794 did you read the comment? He said as a kid ya know when he had his tail? Are you brain-dead?

You should def do more of these this is a really cool concept

The amount of effort and research that goes into these videos is truly phenomenal! Keep up the awesome vids Seth! :)

"The Bat vs The Monkey" 💀

i hate that how rare it is to see actual complex technique in comics that feature martial arts so heavily

@dc7981

Жыл бұрын

That’s the difference between manga fights and comic fights, Manga fights have a lot more detail and exposition

@anxiousweeb8753

Жыл бұрын

Read holyland, teppu, kengan ashura. Great mangas with real life martial arts

@omitlcoatl8840

Жыл бұрын

@@anxiousweeb8753 ive read em all, thats why im so upset that it just isnt utilized anywhere but manga

I'd watch this over death battle a million times. Keep it up

Seth posting almost daily is his Holiday gift to us. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO SETH!

I just stumbled upon your channel and I’m extremely impressed with the quality and substance of your work, Seth. Thanks, now I can binge more anime materials.

@bleath2111

15 күн бұрын

His content is amazing but his allegations are horrible

Seth, idk if this would be an interesting video but I would love to hear your opinion on Granola vs Jiren :) Love the videos btw, you always explore every avenue of these characters. Super Entertaining

Yo, who dis man’s editor cuz manz been posting consistently💀

@sonofsparta3858

Жыл бұрын

Umm he said this in a stream but this been planned for like months for this month will get that elder ring video soon that one been a year jn the Making

@Zom6ieblud

Жыл бұрын

He releasing a bunch of videos this month since he was gone

@MomoMoneyisbatman

Жыл бұрын

Some KZreadr named Crisis.

@sonofsparta3858

Жыл бұрын

@@xavierlehew6746 crisis kinda mid tuber was begging for views on his mg videos

Cool. I also appreciate how you showed Goku’s martial arts prowess (which is pretty underrated).

@toxiclightning5303

Жыл бұрын

I always gave Goku his props cuz the world tournaments are what got me into the franchise

🔥 vid can we get a anime ranking like a top 10 best anime/manga

What a incredible video. Thanks.

You've been killing it lately, Seth! Can't wait to see more

I feel like a lot of Dragon ball vs Marvel/DC matchups are often a bit unfair to begin with. Dragon Ball is a series written by one guy over just a few decades with Long breaks inbetween, while Marvel and DC charatcers have been around almost twise as Long with multiple writers who all have different interpretations of the charatcers, ranking from keeping them more grounded and human to godlike and unstoppable people who can beat every character they come across. So the fact that Dragon Ball often loses these matchup shouldnt really come as that much of a surprise

@tillburr6799

Жыл бұрын

The issue is each author is writing an alternative character. Adam west batman isn’t very powerful. But he is still batman. Early batman would struggle with some real humans. Modern batman is literally superhuman in feats

@ProfessorPrel

Жыл бұрын

@@tillburr6799 Seth did briefly mention that. That in some stories, Batman is not really that powerful, but those stories still take place in the rebirth continuity, or the older continuities it spawned from. So we end up with a Batman that could basically solo some verses with just his martial art skills, not because of Seth is being biased, but because that is what happens when multiple people tackle the same charatcers and you have thousands of stories that all have to work together.

@OK-yy6qz

Жыл бұрын

It works the other way as well. While DC/Marvel characters often have their weaknesses and their low points/limits depending on the writer DB characters are constantly getting stronger since the writer is constantly trying to one-up himself and introduce new even more powerful Villians that could easily oneshot the old ones and new forms for the characters to be able to defeat them.

@digimonlover1632

Жыл бұрын

@@OK-yy6qz Eh not really since the same thing happens a lot with comic book writers too even when there are different interpretations.

@OK-yy6qz

Жыл бұрын

@@digimonlover1632 true,but a new power or boost a DC character gets might get retconned with the next writer. While Dragonball character just constantly get stronger and stronger to the point of oneshotting themselves from the previous arc.

such a great video concept

Love your vids, would love a Gurren Lagann scale vid

Ultra Instinct is based off of the Japanese term mushin. It's a meditative mental state. Artists, monks and martial artists have all described the act of getting so good at something, you don't think when you do do it. Your body thinks for you. That's mushin.

@ulthanesmorkums

Жыл бұрын

That's the exact same concept as Flow State.

@ArifRWinandar

Жыл бұрын

In other words, motor memories are stored as implicit memory, not declarative memory. Trying to use your conscious brain for motor tasks is basically accessing the wrong database. -SMBC Comics, "Conscious"

@HeadGodoftheGodCouncil

Жыл бұрын

You heard wrong.. It's called Unagi..

@mrdavisdance

Жыл бұрын

@@HeadGodoftheGodCouncil It has a few different names. So no, I'm not wrong. Also, I don't think anyone calls it Unagi. Gtfo weeb

@HeadGodoftheGodCouncil

Жыл бұрын

@@mrdavisdance Have you seen friends?

These fan matchups are great seth! Keep em coming we appreciate your input on topics👍🏾

Movie Dumbledore VS Movie Gandalf, AND just for kicks both book versions against each other

The match we've all been waiting for!

I always find your analysis so interesting and facinating.Good job like usual.

Love the number of uploads from seth.

If I remember correctly in the manga version of the tournament of power Beerus and Whis comment on Roshi's fighting capabilities saying that it's almost ultra instinct.

@Noor_Jacobs03

Жыл бұрын

I don't read manga, so I never knew that. That's very interesting to be honest.

Isn’t Goku‘s whole thing to move the most optimally so that no matter how many fighting styles the opponent has, he’ll be able to counter it regardless which negs A high quantity of fighting styles to begin with? Pretty sure it’s said in between Master Roshi and Goku as well

@Jondoe297..

Жыл бұрын

Yep but Batman’s adaptation and pre cognition is superior

@Adam-edits

Жыл бұрын

batman is said to adapt too he legit made a new fighting style against a deadlier version of himself also told to predict when someone comes back from the future and his body moves on its own he is just better with 80 years of experience and 127 fighting styles

@MynameisZOOM

11 ай бұрын

​@@Adam-editsHe has more whan 100 years of battle exp, able to predict enemy's movement

@repthekingforever_7718

10 ай бұрын

@@Jondoe297..Batman is still human, Goku is a sayian meaning his genetics are a on a completely different level. Sayians are literal born warriors

@FragmentsOfWill

9 ай бұрын

@@repthekingforever_7718no powers shut up

The biggest thing here that Seth didn't touch on is the size difference. Bats is MASSIVE. And with all that skill and all that mass Goku if both were humans with no powers and stuff is just fighting at a severe disadvantage from the jump. The Wondy and Ares wank is SILLY but just being able to scrap with them and not get his chest caved in on a daily is impressive. Another thing Seth left out is how he scales to the other gods are martial arts in DC. Shiva and Richard Dragon both have reacted to lasers on multiple occasions. And Shiva has the ability to see react learn and counter any strike and technique after seeing it once. And Bats fights them fairly well often. That means that Bats has to throw a different strike every strike or Shiva runs right through him. The power scaling of humans in America cape stories just aren't fair for these types of fights.

@andywu1981

Жыл бұрын

How massive is he?

@eciyahsmalls-sanders8880

Жыл бұрын

@@andywu1981 pause

@bofi1280

Жыл бұрын

@@andywu1981 6'2, 210 lbs.

@ghosthippie8465

Жыл бұрын

I'm fairly certain batman and Goku are roughly the same size to each other, plus I'm fairly certain Goku is just as jacked!

@bradleylewis3438

Жыл бұрын

He’s got 5-7 inches and about 25lbs on goku ( I’m not certain about the weight, but I know goku’s somewhere in between 5’7 and 5’9 (Vegeta’s like 5’2-5’5 so it could be slightly more))

Bro seth you’ve been killing it man

yeah this is definetly a fight i would love to see

Fun fact in the comics Superman lost to Mohammed Ali in a boxing tournament. No I’m not kidding.

@lukejones7164

6 ай бұрын

I remember that 😂

@malvinyct2544

Ай бұрын

I mean Have we ever see Superman use material arts? Everytime I read the comics I only see simple punch, heat visions And then a whack to the face

@M0B5TERZ

16 күн бұрын

@@malvinyct2544 Supermans sparred with both Wonder Woman and Batman in h2h and were taught by them too.Infact Bruce was impressed of supermans fast adapting abilities

Seth Is on a roll with all these uploads and I’m all for it!

@Zenith_Nulls

Жыл бұрын

We eating

I'd love to see more matchups in this context

Fuck dude thanks for the Budokai 3 background music I haven’t heard that in a minute

Batman's Plot Armor >>>>> Goku

Loving the stream of videos, keep it up Seth. Wish you all the best!

Seth posting more than a video in a period of 30 days? What’s this? A Christmas miracle?

Batman would easily thrash Goku with prep time regardless of difference in power. There are so many methods he could use to crush Goku without ever fighting him directly.

@Black-pi3hh

2 ай бұрын

dragon shenron erase this batman fellow which has no powers so he can't really do much about it thank you

We love the budakai tenkaichi music is peak Seth we love it

My man really managed to get a Rosetta Stone sponsor?! This was in my elementary ciriclulum.😅

We’re in a parallel universe 😭 he’s uploading constantly guys!

I feel like Goku takes it at a mid to high diff as I feel like he could adapt to Batman’s fighting styles. EDIT: shit I underestimated how skilled the caped crusader is lol

@Chiefteeth1

Жыл бұрын

I think something that Seth forgot to add is that Batman’s martial arts prowess puts him at a slightly superhuman level in the first place.

@sptflcrw8583

Жыл бұрын

Comics are silly, lol

@joshkrause2977

Жыл бұрын

@@Chiefteeth1 And Goku’s doesn’t? Goku has trained martial arts since he could walk Batman since 14……

@michaelgarcia5680

Жыл бұрын

@@joshkrause2977 so you didn’t watch the vid?

@michaelgarcia5680

Жыл бұрын

@@sptflcrw8583 nobody’s denying it but Anime can be silly too.

Hey, great video! Keep doing great work that you are doing. Hey, would you be willing to do a video analysis of Goku courage and his mindset? Also, if you are willing to do batman analysis, his courage and his mindset are important? These would be great videos.

all im going to say is, Goku as a child was not infusing his punches with ki and was still one punching full grown men and as a child could keep up with the best martial artist in the world

@Figgs101

Жыл бұрын

Yeah and then u got kid goku picking up a car over his head when he met bulma…

@karshinp7896

Жыл бұрын

@@Figgs101 Yh it’s his natural strength

@Figgs101

Жыл бұрын

@@karshinp7896 did u watch the video? The video is talking bout if goku was a human and had to depend on his “martial art” only

@karshinp7896

Жыл бұрын

@@Figgs101 I said that it was his natural strength when he picked up the car. I never said he could do that as a human did I?🤦🏾‍♂️

@Figgs101

Жыл бұрын

@@karshinp7896 That’s what we talking about?!?! Goku is a human in this fight so u saying thats goku natural strength is pointless cause we talking bout as if goku a regular human

I feel like Batman's got it given how ridiculous his mastery of martial arts is.

@joshkrause2977

Жыл бұрын

What? Batman didn’t train in martial arts since he was a child…..

@leviop8524

Жыл бұрын

Bruuh, goku ultra instinct is alone can beat Batman and goku beats people who had a experience over 500 to 1000 years

@disgaealikerasapOG

Жыл бұрын

@@leviop8524 did you miss the ares part or

@Daniel-xb4oy

Жыл бұрын

@@leviop8524 base vs base no powers Batman beats the brakes off goku

@Mr.Rabot6688

Жыл бұрын

@@disgaealikerasapOG they didn't watch the video man has gone toe to toe with wonder woman someone who beat a God with billions of years of combat

2:23 yeah, those people weren’t paying attention to what cell said about his battle instincts. I mean, he blatantly stated it. so the people that say he would just be a kickboxer or whatever, aren’t paying attention close enough.

Ultra Instinct, in my opinion, could be used in the context of "only martial arts, no power" as it's just instinctive movements due to Goku's incredible level and knowledge in martial arts, ignoring the godly power boost it gives in Dragon Ball Super

@Runosaaa

Жыл бұрын

okay so just normal instincts?

@kalebruiz-garcia4531

Жыл бұрын

@@Runosaaa no, it's ultra.

@Runosaaa

Жыл бұрын

@@kalebruiz-garcia4531 he said "just instinctive movements" with no godly power boost so its basically just normal instincts

@shadowedge729

8 ай бұрын

I think ultra instinct sign is fair game but mastered/true ultra instinct is invalid in this context

SethTheProgrammer will be well-known as that guy who talked about fictional characters far more than the average person. Thank you, Seth. I will always know that Azathoth isn't the supreme being of H.P. Lovecraft.

@dumbledorelives93

Жыл бұрын

Who is then?

@iisave8247

Жыл бұрын

@@dumbledorelives93 there are arguments for Yogsothoth being above him. I'm pretty neutral on it though personally.

@stormruner9183

Жыл бұрын

@@dumbledorelives93 My favourite theory is that Nyarlathotep is impersonating every outer god and great old one (with his shape shifting ability), so he can basically toy around with the people's mind.

@PowerTheGamer

Жыл бұрын

When did he talk about Lovecraft?

@nathangaspacio6128

Жыл бұрын

@@iisave8247 People say yogsothoth is acually a part of azathoth's dream, however that would mean that azathoth is aware of his own existence in the story of yogsothoth which wouldn't make sense as far as im aware because hes a blind idiot god with no consciousness or sentience.

Yo I don't care what anyone says, the way Seth breaks down Goku and Batman Made perfect sense and trust me I am a huge Goku fanboy and I 100% agree with this outcome. I wish more people was as clear with there breakdowns of characters or at the very least made sense when doing so, thank you Seth for amazing videos and top tier quality of work we are all glad you're back.

@Violent_Wolfen

Жыл бұрын

You also gotta remember this is basically a composite Batman.

@idontevenknow7600

Жыл бұрын

@@Violent_Wolfen this is the cannon version tho

@Violent_Wolfen

Жыл бұрын

@@idontevenknow7600 I know, but it doesn't that it's still a composite Batman based on Seth's description of this current Batman.

@idontevenknow7600

Жыл бұрын

@@Violent_Wolfen it’s not composite unless it’s every version of the character including the non cannon stuff imo

@itsmantras

Жыл бұрын

@@Violent_Wolfen If this was a composite Batman that'd include the noncanon stuff, and non Canon stuff makes this an even bigger batman W. Seth just took the version of batman that has Canon feats.

Man I miss the old tournaments. Nowadays the Z-Fighters just purposefully lose to that clown Mr. Satan

In this situation of both being just top level human Batman wins due to his skill. What really puts him ahead is his intellect. Everyone always asks the question, when they put Batman against anyone, “with, or without prep time” for a reason. He is a pure human that fights and wins against Gods

@linnex3694

6 ай бұрын

Seth forgot something that will turn this whole battle around… Gokus durability, in the classic, CLASSIC dragon ball anime KID goku was able to tank bullets from bulmas uzi without actually taking any physical damage, so in a real fight goku will adapt to anything batman throws at him and batman would do little damage because of gokus durability

@sptflcrw8583

5 ай бұрын

​@@linnex3694 EQUAL STATS

@linnex3694

5 ай бұрын

@@sptflcrw8583 He never said equal stats he just said martial arts only

@sptflcrw8583

5 ай бұрын

@@linnex3694 bruh first fifteen seconds says no powers

@linnex3694

5 ай бұрын

@@sptflcrw8583 his durability or strength isnt a power

Seth uploading this much makes me feel like I stepped into an alternate timeline.

This was a damn good video

Honestly... i wanna see the final batsuit vs goku argument. Said version of batman is so underrated it's ridiculous

I'd be down for a full blown tournament of skill at this type. Especially if it gives light to some Underrated characters in terms of skill (usually due to their strength of other abilities)

Never thought he would do this kind of vid

3:40 Had my full attention til you started playing that nostalgic banger .

Kratos vs Jesus is a meme rn, can we get that as a Christmas video for Jesus’s birthday?

How about Goku vs Rimuru ?

I can tell you that Saitama would be put in the ground pretty dang fast. Garou even makes a point to comment on how untrained he is, and easy to read the moves of. His pure physically prowess just makes it impossible to fully react to his moves.

@Artryom

Жыл бұрын

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE PUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@jvr6809

Жыл бұрын

Still beats goku

@Bleeperblopper497

Жыл бұрын

@@jvr6809 Seth made a video saying how Goku still beats him, you're just a random jobber, Seth's been doing this for over a decade

Seems like an interesting idea at first till you realise Goku modelled his fighting style round his powers, so a regular guy trying to do rock paper scissors style or meteor combination will look silly as fuck or won't be able to do it at all

5:38 can someone tell me what that epic music in the back ground is called

😂😂This man Seth is puttting out bangers dang near every day what is going on

Speaking of Ares and Karate Kid, the two have actually fought and Ares said he was more skilled than himself, being so skilled he could fight an actual god.

Another great video you should do batman vs Captain America or captain marvel vs wonder women

I'm happy someone finally understands how UI works its not that complicated

I think if we give Goku UI Omen it becomes a really interesting and drawn out match. They both have thrown hands with stronger opponents and put in work with just their raw skill, adaptability and precognition countless times. The problem here is that Batman has no super powers to speak of so he'd be at full power where-as many of the techniques and skills that Goku has mastered over his life-time would not be a tool in his arsenal anymore, much of which has been a focus of his training in recent time since he's fighting galaxy level threats; things that would even give Superman a run for his money. Batman is effectively fighting Karate Kid with Saiyan biology and quirks so he's heavily favored to win. Here's why I say that, Goku would be having the time of his life fighting someone as skilled as Bats and even if he saw an opportunity to bring the fight to an early close since there are no established stakes in this scenario (it's not like Bats is going to blow up the Earth or some nonsense) AND given that he's the type of person who LIVES TO BE PUSHED TO THE LIMIT OF HIS ABILITY he would intentionally draw out the fight as long as possible to get the most out of it. Goku is genuinely the type of guy to get his ass kicked and be back after eating a sensu bean asking for round 2 until he's got you figured out well enough that he can can beat your ass. So in a single bout this would almost certainly go to Batman but much like how he has his sights set on beating Beerus, Goku would eventually get the W on Bats even if it took him losing hundreds or thousands of times in the process.

The song in the background is fire raging blast is the best fr

*What do we have to do to keep Seth posting on a consistent basis?* 🤔

Did you draw that thumbnail?

@jacenskywalker507

Жыл бұрын

Kuro!!!

Goku mastered martial arts so good he gained powers of angels it's so well he moves without thinking about it lol its so natural its like "Instincts" we also gotta realize goku blitzes batman easily

@thomasthecoolkid7228

Жыл бұрын

This is no powers, so no he doesn't blitz

@BoneDaddy_

Жыл бұрын

@@thomasthecoolkid7228 one can make an argument where ultra instinct is a technique rather than power

@dutchdario635

Жыл бұрын

@@BoneDaddy_ it’s absolutely power related let’s be real by that logic Goku also doesn’t have powers since ki is considered natural in dragon ball

@BoneDaddy_

Жыл бұрын

@@dutchdario635 true, DB making it a technique is weird, but a fight like this is always decided by the writer anyways

@sptflcrw8583

Жыл бұрын

@@BoneDaddy_ I'd say he gets the auto dodge, but not the power boost

Idk if this a video but I was watching your L vs Joker videos and wondered who would win in a Lelouch vs L video.

I honestly think UI counts as a power-up/power in this case, just because UI is used like a transformation later on in the manga. That and UI just gives Goku an INSANELY unfair advantage

@JayPlay2Mch

Жыл бұрын

Fax best part is it’s a technique that anyone can learn in the Z verse

@ismaeltorres3219

Жыл бұрын

In the manga, it’s treated as both. UI the technique can be used in any form, but UI the transformation is the last resort form. Just one that was established in the manga, the next two fights were literally miles stronger than Goku, so it wasn’t represented enough as a technique

@g.masterlordoftheg-force4770

7 ай бұрын

Only the silver-haired version is a transformation.

Batman actually probably knows more martial arts than goku, but he has shown on multiple occasions he can learn techniques from watching them(not master them but has the physical understanding to emulate them)

@Jose07-_213

Жыл бұрын

Ong bro imo I think batman is more skilled in hand to hand combat he know almost all of the martial arts in the world

@nmbmemphisbeast3690

Жыл бұрын

@@Jose07-_213 he knows all the arts of fighting in the world he took time off to go learn them

@Jose07-_213

Жыл бұрын

@@nmbmemphisbeast3690 ong

Oh my god Seth said Toriko’s name

Seth put some respect on every character mentioned in this video. Also with the mention of Wonder Woman, could we get some mentions for her power scaling? I feel like she goes a bit underrated considering some of her feats.

@gunchar06

Жыл бұрын

Well which Wonder Woman specifically, cause DCEU WW for example is very sub-planetary while Infinite Frontier Wonder Woman on the other hand literally walks over the Omniverse(includes everything DC ever published in it's historty) like it's a street crossing XD? But a general rule of thumb for normal comic versions is that Wonder Woman is somewhere around a serious Supes, he is often physically stronger, has a more rounded inherent power-set and can fly faster, while she is often more skilled, more versatile due to her gear(her lasso alone has already countless of hax abilities at it's best) and can fight or at least react faster.

I would actually love to see Owl Man in his suit vs Goku. That’s actually on par basic strength wise since he could handle short bouts with power houses.

Bro wtf is that Batman in the thumbnail 💀

Did we know Batman would win? Hell yeah. Were we gonna watch to support the boy Seth? Hell yeah!

@michaeltreu4152

Жыл бұрын

Bat man sucks.

@ssbashalot7324

Жыл бұрын

@@michaeltreu4152 Agreed

@aerickmon3350

Жыл бұрын

Haters gon hate But who cares

@EeveeOnAHowitzer

Жыл бұрын

@@michaeltreu4152 Yeah, but you still gotta admit dude would win against Goku if they were on the same level.

@1Card-

Жыл бұрын

@@EeveeOnAHowitzer Well If we Do Goku vs Batman we just gonna use the Darkest Knight because it's still batman

1:55 what is the soundtrack/music in the background? Sounds familiar but I can't put my finger on it :(