Unfortunately, Goring had eaten all of the Third Reich's food.

@_Abjuranax_

4 жыл бұрын

And the lollipops, so don't ask, lol.

@TheOmegagoldfish

4 жыл бұрын

@TEXOCMOTP Goring's cardiologist, mostly.

@Jordan-Ramses

4 жыл бұрын

Food shortages in a socialist country? No way. 'One thing for sure, we're all going to be a lot thinner.' -Han Solo #Bernie2020

@wladislawstanislaw9254

4 жыл бұрын

@TEXOCMOTP for humanity and especially for Germans

@tothem1997

4 жыл бұрын

The worst is that Goring would have loved your joke. He was known to make fat jokes about himself.

>Food crisis >oil crisis >coal crisis I'm starting to sense a pattern here.

@bigmouthstrikesagain4056

Жыл бұрын

You'd be right aswell...

@historyfan

8 ай бұрын

Next video: Germany had a flag crisis.

@screwstatists7324

Ай бұрын

"All wars are caused by population pressure" - Robert Heinline, Starship Troopers The war was nessesary because of the Soviet invasion and crises

@funveeable

12 күн бұрын

A lot of modern communists think that communist nations have plenty of food and that capitalist ones create starvation.

@capncake8837

Күн бұрын

Bad times create bad feelings, which cause bad things.

It's surprising and fascinating just how clear-sighted, unbiased and objective Goebbels was in these diary entries.

@edwardmoyna3469

Жыл бұрын

He was a very educated man. He also assumed this was his private diary and would not be read by the public.

@Styx8314

11 ай бұрын

I know! I don't think you would have heard a single good word about ANY of Germanys "allies" in public at least.Nevermind the positively human concern for the citizens of its "honorable partners fighting in the east"

@jamesricker3997

8 ай бұрын

He was one of the few truly competent Nazis and one of the most despicable. The other Nazis couldn't stand him.

@iainsanders4775

8 ай бұрын

You have to know the truth in order to lie more convincingly...😁

@tomortale2333

6 ай бұрын

BIG...LITTLE ZERO/MOUTH FLAPPIN....NOTHING COMIN OUT....

Those patrons look like the Stalingrad casualty list by now!

@Cruiserczcz

4 жыл бұрын

Only thing missing is adding date when they became patreons.

@TheImperatorKnight

4 жыл бұрын

@Michals - hadn't thought of that, but I could do it

@222rich

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheImperatorKnight would be a good idea for transparency imho

@steenkigerrider5340

4 жыл бұрын

LOL

@JoshuaGapaz

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you for making my stressing day better XD.

“You monthly chocolate ration has increased from 6kg to 4kg”

@Raskolnikov70

4 жыл бұрын

LOL, I get the reference to 1984, but 4 kilos of chocolate is still an enormous amount for anyone. I think in the book the ration was 'increased' from 18 grams to 15 grams.

@yuslaven89

4 жыл бұрын

@@Raskolnikov70 He's Murrican. They measure food by spoons, stones and buckets.

@Raskolnikov70

4 жыл бұрын

@@yuslaven89 Hey, I'm 'Murican too, but we measure our chocolate in god-fearin' normal units like hogsheads and gills. Not all that fancy, commie metric stuff...

@yuslaven89

4 жыл бұрын

@@Raskolnikov70 Ma bad. Please don't use your ax.

@velcro8223

4 жыл бұрын

@@yuslaven89 Stone is how those Brits measure themselves man.

“,and we can hardly expect anything from Italy” oddly fitting description.

Goebbels had a pretty good grasp on the causes, effects, and logistics of the food economy.

@jamesjacocks6221

4 жыл бұрын

Utterly unlike his popular portrayal, Goebbels had a shocking grasp of many things and possessed feelings and understandings incompatible with a sociopath. The man had no feelings for mankind, it's true and that was the source of his crimes. I would opine that propagandists who are principally authors of books or op ed, always aim low and the post war portrayal of our adversaries was mostly cut from whole cloth. The disappointment is that the objective seeking person can not obtain the truth either. We are all bound to the least comprehending, as far as information goes.

@truelocomax2804

4 жыл бұрын

James Jacocks he was still a monster though, let’s not let that slide

@josephgoebbelssmile2700

4 жыл бұрын

All this flattery makes me smile 😁 I would say "Cheese" for the photo opt, but considering how depleted the stock pile of said commodity is, it would seem a little out of place...

@jamesjacocks6221

4 жыл бұрын

@@truelocomax2804 No doubt there, one of the worst self-indulging monsters. I am reminded of a line from Julius Caesar about someone having a certain look and Goebbels has that wolfish countenance.

@jamesjacocks6221

4 жыл бұрын

@The Truth That he was. I would hate to be the brains of something irreducibly evil, wouldn't you?

Meanwhile the US Navy's food trouble was that sailors were cutting in line at the Ice Cream counter.

@Piotwor

4 жыл бұрын

That tends to happen when you have most of a continent for yourself.

@jamesjacocks6221

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting to me that there was so much line cutting, much like I saw in my childhood (along with uncontrolled emotions on the highway and many other behaviors linked to early development of a culture). America can be proud that she has come so far in so many ways. In reaching some cultural milestones we lead the world

@helmutthat8331

4 жыл бұрын

@@jamesjacocks6221 There was an incident where two NCO's got battlefield promotions to lieutenant and decided to use their new authority to cut in line in the ice cream queue, saying "gangway for officers". They then heard a yell of anger, and they discovered that they had just tried to cut in front of Admiral Halsey, who was patiently waiting his turn! If you have ever seen what Halsey looked like when he wasn't in dress uniform, you can understand why the two newly minted officers might not have noticed.

@jamesjacocks6221

4 жыл бұрын

@@helmutthat8331 Helmutt, that was precious! Thank you greatly.

@jamesjacocks6221

4 жыл бұрын

@Michael Boden Are you disappointed that your government cares about the large community that supports it? This is painful to everyone.

My father was a POW in Germany from 1941-15. I can personally attest to the terrible lack of food for POWS, let alone the German people. He told me stories of surviving on such fare as horse-bone soup, potato peelings, and sawdust bread. Somehow he survived, when many did not.

2 жыл бұрын

You meant 1941-45

@kek397

Жыл бұрын

@ He was used as a test subject for the Nazis alien time bending technology.

@bno6156

11 ай бұрын

Holy shit, he was a POW for 70 years?

@reygarcia6398

10 ай бұрын

1941 to 1915? He magically went from ww2 into ww1?

@sjr8449

7 ай бұрын

Heard first hand similar accounts from an Allied (British) POW in Germany. By early 1945 he was starving in the camp - which was east of Berlin. But the German guards got the same ration as the prisoners and were also in a difficult position. He did not have bitterness towards the Germans from his experiences, as they followed the various conventions for prisoners and did not steal personal possessions of prisoners. His camp was liberated by Cossacks in 1945 and they had sufficient strength to walk west to US/British lines.

By 1944 they decided to extract food from occupied territory in the west too. My grandparents survived the Hunger Winter in the Netherlands

@Raskolnikov70

4 жыл бұрын

It's hard to know for certain how much it contributed, but a big part of Germany's reason for starving the Netherlands in '44 was because the Dutch rose up against them during the failed Allied invasion (Market Garden) earlier that autumn. Germany probably needed the food at home, but I'm sure that they were a bit harsher than they originally intended to be after the Dutch put up such a strong resistance to their occupation.

@Nightdare

Жыл бұрын

@@Raskolnikov70 My grandfather told me once "By that time (Winter '44/'45), the German soldiers in Holland were just as malnourished as we (the Dutch) were"

I hope this helps in some way to this episode, but several years ago I was at Camp Dodge Iowa, and went to the museum they had set up for their troops involvement in WW2. Some were taken prisoner by the Germans, and I thought it great that the museum actually had letters from the POW's on display. I bring this up because one of the letters noted that the bread "we are getting is mostly sawdust, but we can't complain because the German's are eating the same bread."

@Raskolnikov70

4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if the German POW's were exaggerating. I've read a few histories of POW work camps here in the U.S. and most accounts say that they were very well fed, typically as well as American farmhands would have been. Their food and overall treatment got worse later in the war as information about the concentration camps became public, but generally speaking they had it pretty easy compared to most soldiers in the war, prisoners or not. EDIT - whoops, just realize you were talking about letters from American POW's... yeah, they had it pretty bad. Not as bad as the Russians, but still...

@seththomas9105

4 жыл бұрын

@@Raskolnikov70 What he is saying is Allied POWs were eating sawdust bread just like German civilians. Nazi POWs in the US were living very well as far as food rations go, and most were held prisoner in the Midwest and intermountain West and used as farm/ranch labor.

@chrislambert9435

4 жыл бұрын

Just shows how the British Royal Navy blockade brought them down

@trooperdgb9722

4 жыл бұрын

@@Raskolnikov70 German POWS in the US and Canada were treated strictly according to the Geneva/Hague conventions... which require POWs to be fed the same as "garrison troops" of the Army they are being kept captive by. For the German (and Italians) this was actually a significant IMPROVEMENT in quantity/quality of food. The attitude of the guards toward them may have changed later in the war...but their rations were never reduced as "punishment". Allied POWs in German camps OTOH were in dire straits by the end of the war... if it had not been for the Red Cross parcels their death rate would have been similar to that of Soviet POWs... The Germans started reducing food and other supplies to Western POWs quite early on (blankets being a fine example) in the confident expectation that the Red Cross would make up the difference. (Which they did) There are also accounts of the Germans getting really pissed off late in the war when British and American POWs (having received new uniform issues from their own countries, and with access to Red Cross parcels) would march smartly to their workplaces (Officers did not have to work, NCO's had the option, Private soldiers COULD legally be required to work on non military tasks for their captors) looking MUCH smarter than their German guards... and denting civilian morale by giving chocolate to children and so on...

@austinporter6701

4 жыл бұрын

@@seththomas9105 lol how'd you feel if you were some big farmer and you had a nazi working on your farm shit could be a movie

You can have the mightiest army in the world, but without food stocks and raw materials you're nothing.

@AFT_05G

4 жыл бұрын

Raw materials,do you know anything about German prodcution of raw materials in WW2?Germany dwared so heavily Soviet Union most of raw materials except for oil and some other rare resources which is not in Europe.Germany had produced 4 times more steel and 5 times more coal than Soviet Union during 1942-43. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Front_(World_War_II)

@thinkingagain5966

4 жыл бұрын

@@AFT_05G the Soviet Union did NOT need produce that much raw materials due to them being supplied via lend lease

@_Abjuranax_

4 жыл бұрын

@@thinkingagain5966 Actually they did. The Soviets had already developed a list of required Lend Lease materials to present to the Allies, and those figures included their own production capabilities and materials. They did ask for everything that they needed, and were very surprised and pleased that they actually got it, and more.

@gamebook727

4 жыл бұрын

The Germans always did have a lot of steel and coal, those weren't the bottlenecks in their production. The shortages were in non-ferrous metals (tungsten, copper etc.), oil and rubber. The Soviet Union also had materials shortages but Lend-Lease filled those in. An even bigger problem were shortages of labour and the disruptive effects of bombing. In addition labour productivity was also often very low. Much of the workforce was forced labour, so workers were unwilling and worked badly and slowly, sometimes even conducting active sabotage. The dispersal of factories into small, concealed and protected locations to save them from the bombers caused massive losses of efficiency compared to the huge Allied plants (Tankograd, Willow Run etc.). In 1944 the Germans had more people making aircraft than the USA did (2.2m to 2m) but the quantity or quality of aircraft they produced was ludicrously outmatched by them. Me-262's might have been beyond anything the Allies had but there were so few of them, and the 109's in 1944 were frankly obsolescent and so badly made they tended to fall apart when used.

@kennethbowers2897

4 жыл бұрын

@@AFT_05G Missing the point entirety bud, it's a clear cut statement unlike some (cough), without the essentials your armed forces come to a stop one way, or another, doesn't matter how massive it is, if anything bigger doesn't always mean better.

Yet Russian soldiers were amazed that the farms they came across in west Poland and east Germany were so well stocked. In a time of rationing everyone who can hordes.

@mrsillywalk

4 жыл бұрын

@Pedro Kantor My grandfather had a farm. He walked into the city every week and would come back drunk at night on the top of a empty hay cart.My parents would walk the 20 miles during the war to stock up on eggs, butter and rabbits. During air raids they walked out of the city to the farm, carrying my brother. Local farms would trade with each other and there was an economy that is not added into the reckoning.

@holgernarrog962

4 жыл бұрын

@@mrsillywalk the rationing was indeed not perfect. The poeple on the country side in Germany and as well occupied territories had regularly sufficient to eat by not reporting the complete harvest.

@jerryerwin2537

3 жыл бұрын

Studying history like this gives me even more religion regarding being a Survivalist (who already grows a good chunk of their own food, BTW).

With so many millions starving & dying during that war, it's amazing how one group of special people get all the exposure.

Goebbels could have said ''Do you want delicious, nutritious food or do you want total war''?

@rtqii

2 ай бұрын

Delicious butter from coal!!!

Goebbels should have said ''Do you want food?'' instead of ''Do you want total war?''

This makes me appreciate the hearty meal I'm eating right now.

The food expropriation is part of the folk memory in Belorus (where my father is from). Heard fun stories about consecutive "taxation" first by poles, then by soviets, by nazis and again by soviets. All of them had different strategies and different tricks had to be invented to avoid them. Some tricks included making elaborate underground shelters, others making lies and cooperative deception schemes.

2 жыл бұрын

Why did they not fight to their death?

@bigmouthstrikesagain4056

Жыл бұрын

Sounds familiar

@mariolis

Жыл бұрын

It happened to Greece too

Holy moly. Never seen this much patrons

@TheImperatorKnight

4 жыл бұрын

And I'm eternally grateful to each and every one of them. As I keep saying, they're making this entire thing possible, especially now I have Terri editing the videos

@davidhauge5706

4 жыл бұрын

Good to hear you have more help. Unfortunately expenses usually rise to meet income. That said as good as you were content continues to improve

@AatiNiiranen

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheImperatorKnight if hitler waited he could have stored more oil

@vee2easy

4 жыл бұрын

the people are hungry for this information.

@overdose8329

3 жыл бұрын

@@AatiNiiranen I believe the Reich was importing and producing less oil than they consumed so the shortage would’ve gotten worse if they waited.

5:50 Most remarkable was "something close to starvation" in Belgium and France as early as 1941. First time I ever heard about it, but as it came from an authority, it has to be believed.

As the Historian David Evans pointed out, the process of Nazification of the German state post 1932 sent Germany deeply into debt. Germany needed the war, and resources it captured, to pay its debts and fund future expansion. Evans points out that approximately 1/3rd of the France's GDP went to Germany either directly or as below market value sales.

@TheImperatorKnight

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, and another great book is "Hitler's Beneficiaries" by Götz Aly, which talks about this in-depth

@The_Crimson_Fucker

4 жыл бұрын

Step 1: Deprive your country with National Socialism. Step 2: Propose National Socialism will solve the problem. Step 3: It doesn't. Step 4: Blame everything except National Socialism. Why do I feel like deja-vu? It's almost like we've been here before...I guess it wasn't real National Socialism.

@TlsMS93

Жыл бұрын

Germany could not have free trade in other countries but they could have free trade within Germany. It's the NSDAP's fault. Lol. The United Kingdom controlled the maritime routes, so Germany would have to behave in accordance with British principles, with its colonies, while Germany would have to be satisfied with being a mere exporter to be able to ballast its food, this at a time when goods manufactured goods were losing value in relation to raw materials, this in the long run would create crises, so how are they going to criticize German expansionism based on a colonial era?

@FortniteBlaster2

10 ай бұрын

@@The_Crimson_Fucker Deprive? They were worst off in Weimar conditions, much worse (socially and economically, but mostly socially)

@The_Crimson_Fucker

10 ай бұрын

@@FortniteBlaster2 "mostly socially" There is no way in which national socialism did not debase the German people less than the worst degeneracies of the weimar republic. It was to Germany what Communism was to Russia - the systematic erasure of the national spirit and it's replacement with a political doppelganger.

With enough Manstein you dont need food. Problem solved.

@bogdaann

4 жыл бұрын

They could have 1000 manstein’s,germany could not win the war alone vs whole WORLD

@mks2987

4 жыл бұрын

@@bogdaann Do not insult the power of the Lord!With only 2 Mansteins the holy fatherland could have conquered the universe

@hanszimmer9224

4 жыл бұрын

@@bogdaann At least we risk something in life. Most other countries just live their boring lifes.

@Warmaker01

4 жыл бұрын

You can have a thousand Mansteins, but the Allies need only one Zhukov.

@nunodiogo5745

3 жыл бұрын

May Manstein bless us all

Hello TIK! Recently, I saw a person in the comment section saying that he translated your video ''The Myth and Reality of Order 227'' in Spanish. I really got encouraged by that and decided to translate it in my native language as well! (Bulgarian) As I hope it gets more people to watch it at because it is a pretty interesting topic. Have a good day!

“You cannot expect a cow to give milk, and allow herself to be eaten up at the same time.” Say, that’d make a good Oscars acceptance speech.

@Ralphieboy

4 жыл бұрын

"Don't have a cow, man!"

@Axemantitan

4 жыл бұрын

Kind of like, "You can't have your cake and eat it, too."

@benwilson6145

4 жыл бұрын

@@Ralphieboy Thought that as Devin Nunes line?

A big factor in the drop in German farm production was the loss of so many young men in Russia. Germany was a nation of small farms (the land wasn't big enough to justify mechanized farms. By 1943, over 360,000 men were dead-another 400,000 wounded.Hard to grow wheat if nobody was there to plant.

@AnimalFarm341

21 күн бұрын

My grandfather was sent out at the end of the war, knew he wasn’t coming back. He’s buried in a mass grave somewhere in Russia.

Unbelievable! The food crisis, so well described in the Memoirs of Goebbels. He was also quite open to the unhappiness* of the population of the occupied territories, and allegedly advocated a minimum of food to be left for the people there (everyone was expecting less from the Nazis, and especially Goebbels - not that a cow for a family is enough, but still...). I'm amazed that he became critical of the Wehrmacht, which seemingly took everything the occupied territories could give in this respect. Combines well with an Order to the OKH (or OKW) from Oct 1941, requiring the Heer (at least) to restrain itself in food confiscations (leave enough food to the peasants to survive the winter). Thus, there is some truth to what he writes, as G. wasn't the only one aware of the problems. The great Famine during the war (GPW) was probably the main cause for the huge losses in civilian population of the Soviet Union, on both sides of the front, and at the same time is also very scarcely analyzed by historians. An open door to another historical research topic!

@m2heavyindustries378

4 жыл бұрын

Not much of a choice there in any case, and even if (a big if) the Germans were trying to leave some food it wouldn't have been enough by a long margin

@antimatteranon

3 жыл бұрын

he probably did so because he knew that a poorly fed population can lead to rebellion and that would be bad for major uprisings to happen while the germans were being crushed and / or suffering heavy losses.

@choosecarefully408

Жыл бұрын

It's psychology 101. All _your_ problems are due to faults in you. All "my" problems are due to my circumstances. The Nazis were busy trying to install a mindset they had invented. It may or may not have been Hitler's, but that doesn't matter. Lying to oneself results in things like this, people completely unable to _accept_ reality especially when it doesn't reflect their beliefs. My favorite example will always be today. We all *_KNOW that_* no one, _especially_ people in decision-making power can take corporate $ then vote on issues affecting them. That's why it's still 100% illegal in all Western nations. Since everyone in Western nations idealizes 'Government' as "My Protector" they openly refuse to believe 1) that it *is* illegal ("they passed Citizens United making it legal" as if the people who wrote our laws made it legal to declare oneself or others exempt from the law) & when *that* fails, they just get really upset & pretend that they never had any discussion pointing out that it's still illegal, thus ensuring that the crimes continue. With the usual results. kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y3d5ksiGlLvQibA.html. Sacrificing children to the Gods of $ or the Gods of the Angry Volcano, it's still child sacrifice for imaginary Bownie Points from entities that do not care that you exist.

@mrd6869

Жыл бұрын

Whatever. You wanna give him a cookie?🤣 He was a nazi midget then needed a British/American/Russia boot in his azz. Have you ever seen how tiny that man was? If i saw him in an elevator,id easily take his nazi lunch money. Id grab his coat and lift that midget up & take all his shyt.

@FortniteBlaster2

10 ай бұрын

A cow for a family is a ton. A pig would get a family through the entire winter

It wasn't just the Germans in WW1. The food shortage (not because they were short of food but because of transportation problems) in Petrograd was the trigger for the February revolution.

I spoke at length about this with my mother. She was a child during the war and stated that the winter of 1941 killed all the plants and by the end of the war there was an absolute lack of food for the German people. However it took a few years after the war to improve.

I find it particularly interesting that Goebbels comforts himself by remarking on his perceived hardship which the British must also have been enduring; while the diet of the average Brit might've been a tad more bland, they were (to my understanding) actually more healthy during the Ministry of Food's rationing program.

@Raskolnikov70

4 жыл бұрын

@Tom Sanders Collingham covers this in a great amount of detail in "The Taste of War". Highly recommended.

@hermitoldguy6312

4 жыл бұрын

The Brits took to gardening, and didn't have occupying troops stealing and destroying their crops. Brits also had POWs and Land Army girls working the farms. I'll bet evacuee children were also helping grow food.

@DangerasTM

2 жыл бұрын

Ian from Forgotten weapons has a great series of videos about this where he explains the logistics, economics and how the ration system works while also talking about the politicians involved and eating the food

@russell7489

2 жыл бұрын

I'm late to the party but always AMAZED at people's who "can't feed themselves" when ANYONE CAN GROW POTATOES FROM FOOD SCRAPS & WASTE POTATOES. Greens to provide vital nutrients can be grown from carrot & other root veg tops on a window sill. Beans r a protein as well as veg anyone can grow. I know people spending hrs a wk mowing & trimming lawns but have lousy diets poor health from relying on govt food banks. One can say IGNORANCE the govt should be educating them but when it comes to starving to death you'd think "rumors" big how to survive growing your own might get around. Yes not everyone has land but MANY do & in war ie Germany devoting every foot of parkland, road medians (for animal fodder if nothing else) a no brained. You hear in US & UK of govt encouraging individual food production Was this not done in Germany Did socialist state WANT people to be totally reliant on state to the point their actual survival was irrelevant. Of course price controls trying to get farmers to sell below cost hurts, but as this Nazi pointed out the solution was state subsidies to make up the difference. It is amazing that despite brilliant heights of tech expertise Germans were so nearly utterly devoid of organizational brilliance or even competence. Using grain vs hay for fodder when short of food. Ignoring systemic alt fuels deployment like pyrolosis of wood easily used to powered a standard internal combustion engine on vehicle, elec gen etc & steam powered heavy cargo truck transportation - using small slow moving mini locomotives on steel wheels as once criss crossed rural US providing power for plowing lands running harvesters drilling wells. I suspect Germany only respected "the best" how very Supremecist so popularizing such old fashioned dull simple "peasant" techniques as these were beneath the movers & shakers interest. As to military over requisitioning. The amount of theft ( for personal / family use as well as profiting from sale of has been probably since at least Roman times EPIC. On Guadalcanal a popular ancedote is US Marines "disappearing" 20,000 cases of beer, that no one cared about because there was so much more of that & everything else being dumped there. Australian ports were said to be deluged to point no one could keep track of what was where. WWII pics routinely show supplies stacked high over vast areas 1000s of feet on a side. Despite all this over supply & production in US & it's theaters of operation front line troops still went without. Armies seem to need far more than is necessary just to have a chance of having barely enuf when & where needed. Which if u think about it is a real " of course" moment. While yes I understand Germany had to gut occupied lands to support their bankrupt economy, it's still hard to understand how they expected next year crops steel coal wood etc production to happen so it could be stolen when it killed enslaved starved robbed people's. Even the Spartans & S US slavers, perhaps the most vicious slave owners of all time understood unneeded live slaves to give u what YOU wanted, and w the exception of random terror killings & far more frequent torture, left the slaves enuf of a life to ensure they'd be able to, be motivated to work hard enuf to produce endless supplies. Supremecism does not require genocide. That seems to be something Germany & Japan dreamed up. Imagine if instead of starving 100,000s of captured Russians to death they had been worked to death breaking big rocks into little ones laying gravel roads 1000 miles into Russia, relaying the railroads to German gauges etc. while growing enuf potatoes to feed themselves & German armies as well as allow all to drink themselves to sleep every night on the potato vodka. Which is actually how Putin keeps his wretched masses silent he doubled the nearly free state vodka ration all are entitled to buy for almost nothing. Thanks as always for opportunity to vent.

@abbcc5996

Жыл бұрын

@@hermitoldguy6312 you forgot how the brits starved millions of indians so that they could feed themselves?

Never forget the oil problem contributed to the food problem. Tractors need fuel and food needs to be transported and stored.

"We shall eat all the pancakes on this earth!" -Joseph Göbbels 1943 Would anyone be interested to see me draw a caricature of him or Himmler?

@moosemaimer

4 жыл бұрын

"No! Send all pancakes to my estate! They're mine!" -Hermann Göring

@pelao824

4 жыл бұрын

"We shall Göbble all the pancakes..." I'll see myself out.

@maciejniedzielski7496

4 жыл бұрын

It's called "les crêpes"

@skykid3

4 жыл бұрын

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%BCnther_Pancke

@gdbalck

4 жыл бұрын

@@moosemaimer And yet he lost very little weight and only towards the end of the war.

Excellent look at primary source material on the food situation.

A detail about Germany in WWII that's often glossed over, that makes the UK's food situation look well stocked by comparison. Then again the UK was ready for wartime rationing measures, having done it before to similar effect, during WWI, whilst the Kaiserreich gradually withered under naval blockade.

this is why many camp prisoners were starving, not enough food to go around

The most underrated, and ignored operation of WW2,, which was highly successful, was the Royal Navy blockade of the Axis. They surrounded Europe from the Med to Northern Norway.

@Treblaine

4 жыл бұрын

Also saying to Turkey "whatever germany is paying for your exports, we'll buy it instead for twice what they're offering" One reason why allies had little shortage of cigarettes, to encourage Turkey to sell to the allies they'd buy everything, including Turkish tobacco.

@johnburns4017

4 жыл бұрын

@@Treblaine The British bought up precious metals from Turkey.

@Treblaine

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnburns4017 Tungsten (wolfram) was the major metal relevant for war production, those high velocity tank shells. Also things like nickle for steel alloys.

@jussim.konttinen4981

4 жыл бұрын

I noticed that during the Continuation War soldiers drank tea, which is unusual in Finland. Where did they get the tea?

@johnburns4017

4 жыл бұрын

@@jussim.konttinen4981 Do not underestimate the power of tea.

The thing I find the most disturbing in this video is Goebbels, am associated with so much crimes against humanity, expressing concern with the well being of woman and children. My mind can't wrap around those two contradictions belonging to the same man.

@Timbo5000

4 жыл бұрын

The main lesson of the early 20th century is that with one wrong ideological turn, you can make perfectly normal, intelligent people do unspeakable things. You can make a perfectly normal person think that the utopic future requires that dissidents today are killed. You can make a perfectly normal person believe that to save his people, he has to invade foreign lands and even massacre Jews for being Jews. All it takes is ideology, no stupidity, no evil, just a different ideological world view. Scary....

@Raskolnikov70

4 жыл бұрын

With the well-being of German women and children. His concern didn't extend to the women and children starving to death in the East, where that was part of the overall plan to expand into those lands.

@sorsocksfake

4 жыл бұрын

Until you can resolve that contradiction, you cannot understand what evil is. It will just remain cartoon villains. You'll be unable to fight it, and won't even know if you turned into it. The resolution is easy. It's just hard to swallow: we could become Goebbels or Hitler. They're not demons, they're not that different. They no doubt deeply believed they did the right thing - and the hurt, those were necessary sacrifices. The same word used by every "righteous" movement.

@Chironex_Fleckeri

4 жыл бұрын

Well, he was more like the mouthpiece of the regime. He knew he was lame, so he didn't have traditional masculinity going for him. His contribution was to use his intellectual ability to help his master, Hitler, to achieve their common dreams for Germany. It's interesting to hear his concern, but he continued to justify German suffering as the war drew close to home, so I'd suspect in later 44 he's not so worried about the women and children. Wherever this switch occured, I think it represents his acceptance of the defeat.

@zephyrus339

4 жыл бұрын

@@sorsocksfake Yeah, for me the true horror of the Nazi regime (or any extremist regime) wasn't that is was led by Madman Hitler and his cronies, but by capable politicians and administrators who where capable of rational thought, emotions and feelings. While at the same time knowingly causing the death of millions. I know this is the truth, but still every time I hear a person like Goebbles (or Hitler, Goring ed) express genuine concern for his fellow human beings I can't help but feel disturbed.

Gobbles sounds so much intelligent from this diary

The production of ethanol for the impending v2 program took up most of the potato harvest after 1942. It is also worth noting that the requisition of draft horses for the military and lack of fuel crippled the agricultural productivity of France and other occupied territories.

@brycefelperin

4 жыл бұрын

Aside from the United States most all industrial nations of the world of the time didn't have full mechanization in their agriculture nationally.

@gmdyt1

4 жыл бұрын

@@brycefelperin transport is needed to get goods to market before they spoil. The French dairy industry was destroyed by the lack of fuel & confiscation of transport.

@visionist7

4 жыл бұрын

In their drive to mechanise agriculture the Soviets slaughtered tens of thousands of horses during the 1930s

In Greece, where I lived from 1974 to 1984, I was told how people who could not hide their food 'Died, died.'

The USSR would have been MUCH more powerful and prepared in 1942!

@TheImperatorKnight

4 жыл бұрын

Perhaps. But then, some argue that Germany would have been too

@julianshepherd2038

4 жыл бұрын

UK too.

@julianshepherd2038

4 жыл бұрын

We would have had loads of Matilda 2s with 6 pounders. They would have wrecked panzer 3 and 4s. Desert War would have lasted months.

@colinthomasson3948

4 жыл бұрын

what makes you think that ?

@TheIfifi

4 жыл бұрын

@@julianshepherd2038 why lend lease them if the ussr and germany were not at war?

Fantastic video TIK! I love these insights into life during the war just as much as I enjoy your Battlestorm series.

If you owned France, and Poland, and Austria, and Germany. Then you had plenty of land to grow food on.

@forkstaf1918

3 жыл бұрын

I think the problem was more on transportation of that food instead of not being able to grow it.

Dammit TIK, why did you have to release this right before I go to work. Now I have to wait all day to watch it.

@brahim119

4 жыл бұрын

*@shinokiba.* You should have called in *_TIK._* man.

@dunneincrewgear

4 жыл бұрын

shinokiba Hope it was worth the wait?!!

I love this type of content, thank you for uploading this

Very interesting. I did't realize the extend of the food shortages and how early in the war the shortages started. I wonder how many of the deaths in the camps were due to starvation and disease? Those poor souls would have been the last to be fed.

@brettbaker5599

Жыл бұрын

After the extermination camps were shut down at the end of 1943, roughly 1 million Jews slowly starved/died of disease in labor camps.

"A turkey under every tree!" -Joseph Gobbels1943....not!

@cdcdrr

4 жыл бұрын

More like cold turkey, since they were also running out of panzer chocolat.

That is incredibly interesting. What a great video and script. THANK YOU for the upload. I really learned something new there. I had no idea that the food shortage was so desperate.

Well, with 3 million more men to work in the fields Germany would have had a lot bigger harvests. Sending your labour force abroad to war leading to food shortages at home is as old warfare itself.

Very interesting, thanks for the upload. So many dimensions to this (and hence) any conflict :/

Göering ate all the food

Thanks TIK, you are adding to the understanding of the previous centuries war.

Ahhh, the wonders of Socialism! Food shortages in a most agrarian nation. Go figure?

@slickrick2420

2 жыл бұрын

Are you literate? This is about Nazi Germany.

@frankmueller2781

2 жыл бұрын

@@slickrick2420 Are you? *National Socialism* and all. Despite all the wonder at the regime's engineering marvels, Germany of the 20's, 30's, and 40's was a mostly agrarian society, just as the Mad Corporal liked it. Why do you think he had such a passion for 'Lebensraum?' Have actually studied anything about the country, the political system, the economy of the regime, or even read Mein Kampf? Know what you're talking about before you speak.

Part of the food crisis after Hitler attacked the USSR was the discontinuation of trade. (Didn't a train from the USSR loaded with raw materials arrive in Germany on the very eve of the attack)? Certainly Germany must have received grain shipments as well before the attack. And after the attack the Soviets burned and destroyed anything useful to the Germans as their armies approached........including grain. So this should explain a large portion of Germany's food shortage. It brings meaning to the phrase " Don't bite the hand that feeds you". Please look into pre-invasion trade between Germany and the USSR.

And do we still really think that the camps where supplied with food ? In addition the was a severe logistics problem.

Amazing how public schools never taught this key issue.

Wait at 10:58, Goebbels says, "I notice it in my own case", does this mean he was on everyday rations? Same as the general populace?

@miljandjuric7663

4 жыл бұрын

I think this is the case. He is extremely thin by the end of the war.

@rtwiceorb770

4 жыл бұрын

@@miljandjuric7663 Not just him. Truth is almost all Nazi leadership lost pounds and wight as war progressed. This to be shown as we as Germans we as Germany. But we are thought diferentlly hahah so yea. I am not sure about Goering tho that guy got his weight from being addict

@thecanadiankiwibirb4512

4 жыл бұрын

RTW Iceorb Göring ate enough for the whole Nazi party. Truth was he was stealing their food, just like he stole their men for his fallchrimpanzer division.

@rachelmclaughlin1491

3 жыл бұрын

@@miljandjuric7663 he has always been stick thin

You're a wonderful historian. Can you do a video of why France and England did not declare war on Russia for invading Poland just Germany?

@gabriellesaint2883

2 жыл бұрын

And also why England (Churchill) gave the entire Poland to Russia Communists after WW2 ended!

@pagopagojt0740

2 жыл бұрын

Because France and England aren't the "good guys" they just did the most logical choice to only fight one enemy at a time, if they declared war on the Soviet union they would of forced the Soviet Union into bed wigh the germans.

@username_3715

Жыл бұрын

They were enemies with Germany and not Russia. Poland was their excuse for regime change. Read churchills memoirs.

Two things occur to me. The Nazi war plan was based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the modern economy - that it worked like a Dark Ages economy where if you conquered a territory you replaced the old feudal lord and collected the same loot he did. That's not true in a 20th Century economy where everyone will see the occupation regime as less legitimate and thus work less hard and so the loot levels collected by an occupier were lower than what the government they deposed would get. Secondly, how can anyone say the Nazis were capitalist? You've got the high-level politicians like Goebbels debating what the levels of food rations were as well as what price the government should set for potatoes. Nazi Germany only narrowly avoided a Communist-style famine in 1942, i.e. only halfway through the war.

@TheImperatorKnight

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, and the reason why they can say it is because they haven't read the sources, and don't know the definitions of the words they're using. Yet, when I point this out and try to explain, I'm wrong because I've hurt their feelings. Ignorance is their Strength.

@hrotha

4 жыл бұрын

How were German war rations different from, say, British war rations?

@Jordan-Ramses

4 жыл бұрын

They were socialists. Of course they didn't understand anything about economics. It's kind of shocking that they didn't simply print money.

@n00btotale

4 жыл бұрын

@@Jordan-Ramses Therefore quantitative easing = socialism, or should I say... "The complement of the set consisting solely of anarcho capitalism..."

@E.J.Crunkleton

4 жыл бұрын

Nazis were facists that worked with the industrial capitalists to create a war machine. They did Ally with other political groups (like the labor party) but these leftist elements were removed durring the night of long knives.

Another great video, thank you.

Top notch video mate.

Fascinating. Subscribed.

These food rationing videos always make me feel hungry. I like to watch whilst eating my tea.

great piece. Love the presentation. Thanks

Never tought he cared that much, but he seems to micromanage a lot

Yet, they never made a major effort to cut beer rations. He who controls the Hops, controls the moral.

My grandparents were (unfortunately) Nazis who lived through World War Two and they often spoke of the food problem and extreme rationing. They often said that the best jobs were on the farms because you could eat extra food there in the fields. But I have learned that Germany was robbing the rest of Europe of its food so that it could barely keep its own people alive as European food production collapsed. Look at Greece, Ukraine, and France for example. And as TIK mentions, Poland. Absolutely evil. More specifically, my grandmother was a proud Nazi in the Hitler Youth and my grandfather was in the 3rd SS Totenkopf because they offered him a uniform to look good in front of the women in and put food on his table (It was interesting to hear him tease my grandmother about her proud Nazi party past -- as he was not a card carrying member of the Nazi party). He came from a very poor family. After the campaign in France, in which he was involved around Arras, Bethune (where German dive bombers almost bombed them), and "Dunkirk", and he recounted again and again as a highly civilized and friendly occupation of Dax, France, he paid for the uniform and the food when his arm was disabled for life by Russian artillery bursts in tree tops with weeks of delayed emergency care just to the west of Opochka, Russia in late July of 1941 (he was put in a desk job at 3rd SS Headquarters in supply after that). My grandparents often spoke of this food problem. My mother was born in August, 1943 in this malnourished state and she has surely paid for it with poor health for the rest of her life (yes, and grandmother was raped by the Russians as she fled their advance). How can you send a fucking army -- half of whose numbers have signed up because you keep them from starving -- into another country without enough food? And not even feed Soviet prisoners of war? The unspeakable evils of this regime know no end. I live in Moscow and sometimes I tell people about what I learned in your videos. Some people I told about your oil video say it changes their view of the war completely.

"The German food crisis" otherwise known as "German cuisine".

@The_Crimson_Fucker

4 жыл бұрын

It's kind of like Chinese medicine, otherwise known as "sickness".

@horiastefanruicea1391

4 жыл бұрын

That was brilliant..cheers!!

@EndOfSmallSanctuary97

3 жыл бұрын

Lmao

Actually the problem was caused by the invasion of the USSR, had Germany waited another year and had maintained the 1940 German-Soviet Commercial Agreement, then they would have had plenty of grain and oil for agricultural use, invading the USSR was not a way of solving German shortages ,it was in fact the root cause of creating these shortages, to say Grmany had no choice but to invade the USSR in 1941 in order to survive is not accurate, Nazi Germany could still exist today had they maintained the USSR as a trading partner, however they chose to attempt to eat the goose that laid the golden eggs, which had all of the predicted consequences

Very interesting. But it seems that it turn the common notion that the genocide of Soviet POW by starvation and disease were made in a situation when food were abundant. What we see in Goebbels diary is that they had problem from day one in the war against Sovietunion to even give their own citizens food. I don´t try to legitimize the treatment of Soviet POWs. It were horrendous but we owe it to all the victims to try to understand the truth and why it happened.

Very interesting video. Although he was a detestable criminal, the diaries of Joseph Goebbels are an exceptionally important source of first-hand information on the Third Reich. Unfortunately they are only partly available in English, and a full 29 volume German edition only recently made available. Few historians have been able to fully study this material, as far as I can tell.

Another amazing video that gives real insights into the real motivation behind certain actions of the Nazi leadership. I was always skeptical of the mainstream "Hitler madman" view.

@visionist7

4 жыл бұрын

I didn't know pornstars studied WW2

@nebojsag.5871

3 жыл бұрын

@@visionist7 Eeyyyy beat me to it.

@Tallorian

2 жыл бұрын

I've read Goebbels' diaries from 1945. He seemed like a total lunatic, living in a fantasy world (together with his fuhrer). I mean, destroying their own country's economy and then starting a war with surrounding countries in order to fix it... well, those are not doings of truly sane people.

Was watching this at 24:00, in a McDonald's quiet corner. Man, life's good now days. But this picture of Goebbels reducing my BigMac ration won't leave my head!!!

Did the government set up programs for people to raise their own food when possible like gardens and rabbet and such?

@Raskolnikov70

4 жыл бұрын

If you're interested in that sort of thing, definitely check out Collingham's book "The Taste of War". I finished it recently after TIK recommended it on this channel and it has an absolutely ridiculous level of detail about how each country involved in the war (and even some neutral ones) organized their home economies in order to feed - or attempt to feed - their populations.

I think I can feel another massive war coming on.

Could the shortage of food be attributed to maybe too many workers in the army and not on the farm? Isn't that kind of what happened in the First World War?

@Litany_of_Fury

4 жыл бұрын

Germany doesn't have enough land to supply it's population, and when you cut off a lot of the sea things look very dire.

@ianwhitchurch864

3 жыл бұрын

Not only not enough workers, also not enough horses, not enough machines and not enough tractors or trucks.

My grandfather went volunteer for the war in Summer 1943, in Sicily (being born in 1911 and being married with three children, he was not callable). He was soon captured by overwhelming forces at or near the landing zone, between Licata and Gela. I have several memories of his tale about his war, and one is that the food in the POW camp where he was sent, in Africa (I think it was in Morocco) was much better than the food they used to get in the Italian Army. Overall, Italy was self-sufficient as far as food is concerned, thanks to the Autarchy policy of recent years, the situation in Germany must have been much worse.

@Mfields4517

Жыл бұрын

Italy was more food-sufficient than Germany because they had conquered Libya and turned it into a bread basket

Could many of the soldiers used to invade the USSR in 1941 have been used to increase food production? Farm labor shortages was a big issue in Germany. Also the book 'Hitler's Empire' talks of the bad decisions in the occupation of Poland that reduced food production in German areas of control that reduced it below pre-war levels that were never reached again during the war. Just because food was short in 1941 does not mean the only or the best option to get more food was to invade the Soviet Union.

If Germany didn't invade the Soviet Union they wouldn't have needed so many soldiers and more resources, especially horses could have been directed to farming. They could also have continue trading with the Soviet Union for food as well as oil. The invasion of the Soviet Union is increasingly shown to be idealolgical to the point of suicide.

@mikedeck8381

4 жыл бұрын

I'm no expert on this but Shirer in his book feels confident that Germany would've gotten more from the Soviets in regular trade than they did by looting them in war.

@hermitoldguy6312

4 жыл бұрын

@mike deck TIK has said that in previous videos, too.

@pagopagojt0740

2 жыл бұрын

Those two ideologies are blood rival's... It's like saying sayin blood's and crips would be better off if they merged together, yea it would be better but it would never happen as one would always be looking for a way to backstab the other.

The entries for late May-mid December 1942 happen to be available in volumes 4-6 of "Die Tagebücher von Joseph Goebbels, Teil II Diktate 1941-1945" published by KG Saur Verlag. It would be nice if those could be translated into English and more widely available for distribution, as it is way more complete than the reference cited in this video.

The USSR wouldn't just wait. Another year and the reforms and rebuilding of the officer corps of the Red army would have been under way. A better armed and organized Red army would have been waiting or may even have decided to strike first. The would also have been a lot more T-34's and KV-2's.

Great insight on food of WWII.

Wasn't Russia exporting Ukrainian Grain to Germany at this stage? Before the combat?

@visionist7

4 жыл бұрын

And starving the Ukrainians in order to do so, ironically.

Second time watching this video . Once of the most interesting sections of ww2 .

This is easily my favourite episode I've Watched it many times A series on goebbels diary's would be an excellent edition

01/05/41 - Wermacht is eating too much 01/01/43 - well that seems to have taken care of the Wermacht eating too much, by dint of there being less Wermacht to feed, better shove a load off too North Africa too

@brianlong2334

4 жыл бұрын

Wermacht 1941 5milliin, 1943 6.5million.

Could you do something about World War 1 in the future? You've said that you know WW1 well and I've been dreaming of something like a Verdun battlestorm series. But I See you're pretty busy already, I love your stuff anyway.

@TheImperatorKnight

4 жыл бұрын

There's actually a couple of Patron questions relating to WW1, so I'll be answering them at some point. However yes, I've got my hands full at the moment with Stalingrad!

Very interesting video.

Excellent video

>TIK does another video on German food >I’m eating Bratwurst right now Coincidence? I think not.

I’ve wondered why such successful conquerors such as Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany needed to invade other lands for farmland when these days so many people are fed with so little land. But then I remember that these nations were still primarily agricultural and thus I suppose they did not have the industrial farm methods that were developed later.

@_Abjuranax_

4 жыл бұрын

FYI: After the war, many farmers converted the tanks on their land into tractors. Talk about beating swords into plowshares.

@hermitoldguy6312

4 жыл бұрын

There have been huge increases in yield-per-acre since WWII.

@overdose8329

3 жыл бұрын

Also it is impossible for Japan to produce enough food no matter what technology they have. Most of their lands are mountaineous and they need to import food or conquer lands that can produce food.

Good video. thanks

The problem with your argument here is that going to war made the food shortage worse. Going to war caused the food shortage, because it took critical resources away from the agricultural sector. Huge numbers of farm workers got drafted into the army. Huge numbers of draft animals were requisitioned for military use; the Wehrmacht was mostly not motorized, meaning that it was mostly dependent on draft animals for transport, and those animals had to come from somewhere. But it wasn't just labor. The German chemical industry was busy making explosives instead of fertilizer. Scarce fuel was going into tanks and planes rather than tractors and combine harvesters. Far from being a way to resolve the food shortage, the war caused the food shortage, which was why the shortage got worse as the war went on.

This video is making me hungry.

As expected, a great presentation. A revilation we all have been awaiting. Famin follows all war. The first world war caused such famin my grandfather's voice broke when relating his experience as a well fed officer in 1919. WW2, POWs walking west through to their lines, report their guards abandoned them to find food for themselves.

Goebbels write about the lack of horses for agricultural purposes. In USA and Great Britain at the time, agriculture was mechanized to a much higher degree. This is an argument that 3 million healthy male workers staying at home and not sending so many horses east, would have improved German agricultural output more than what those men and horses would have consumed.

Lol your voice and accent are unique. It's almost like I can already hear the video before it even plays 😆

If peace could have been negotiated in 1942 (or better yet 1917) the deaths of millions could have been prevented, especially those in the camps. FDR's "unconditional surrender" forced National Socialist Germany and Imperial Japan to fight to the bitter end resulting in the deaths of millions more.

@lamwen03

10 ай бұрын

Peace WAS negotiated in 1918. And because it was negotiated, the German people could be told that they hadn't been beaten, they'd been betrayed, and that they could win the next one. Japan had NEVER been beaten. This was why the men who had lived and fought through WW 1 insisted on unconditional surrender. Not going to be any 'we didn't lose, we quit' this time, to allow unchecked military revanchism. And look, it worked.

Tik, You are getting close to a set of a number of adequately supportable arguments that are extremely unpopular today. They start with the idea that Britain declared war on Germany knowing full well that it meant a war of starvation in which Germany was the victim. Following that out, one opens the doors on all sorts of questions about how Germany was forced to deal with the food problems out of predictable necessity, and then discussions of these results. The response is to say that Germany waged the same sort of war effort on Britain with its submarines, but one of the most common phrases on hears in any argument is 'turnabout is fair play." The case became one in which Germany couldn't prevent the deaths of millions, but could only decide who was to starve, or nearly starve. I doubt any other country in that situation would have made significantly dissimilar choices. Then too, at the end of the war, there is an open question of how many people in the prison camps starved there was no food, or because there was no adequate way to deliver the food as Allied air power in the last months of the war virtually wiped out the German transportation networks. Look for gun camera footage of P-51's targeting horse-drawn hay wagons. They aren't hard to find. One often seen comment is that the allies never bombed the railroads leading to the camps, but I suspect this is an impossible argument to prove, and certainly it is more effective to target moving trains on the rails than simply targeting the rails. Railroad engines are much harder to replace than a few mis-shaped rails. Going further, there is no modern analysis of how many people in the camps dies of diseases that raged through the camps for which there existed no adequate medical defenses. Everyone is happy to blame the Germans for those piles of bodies being shoved into mass graves by British bull-dozers, but people long maintained on minimal diets will very quickly succumb to other issues, including starvation. No one very readily wants to associate the effectiveness of allied air interdiction with it's logical outcomes. It takes at least 150 years for the political realities around a serious war to settle enough to allow for more objective analysis. You might live to see it in popular literature, but I doubt I will.

Operation Barbarossa was partly why food resource dwindled so quickly, the sheer length of the supply lines gave way to massive amounts of ‘leakage’ , but Germany could have easily sustained themselves for another year, Question is whether that would have even improved their strategic position, USSR industry and production was growing extremely fast and the Wehrmacht military doctrine is very much reliant on short, sprint campaigns.

Bro could you also do military strategies used by all powers during WW2? That would be a Great category of videos.