Godzilla x Kong x Toxic Positivity

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Daikaijin Goji goes into (arguably too much detail) about how certain groups of the monsterverse fandom is being unreasonable and for being a sense of toxic positivity.
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Time stamps:
0:00 Intro
4:38 “You just hate fun”
7:48 “It’s a Showa throwback”
11:26 “You’re just being ungrateful”
14:43 “Stop comparing to -1.0.”
19:09 Overly long conclusion

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  • @SomethingZilla-dx4tr
    @SomethingZilla-dx4tr12 күн бұрын

    Monsterverse fans: NO! I REFUSE TO GIVE UP! I shall pull my ultimate move. "A REAL GODZILLA FAN LOVES ALL GODZILLA!"

  • @MinecraftWorld1954
    @MinecraftWorld1954Ай бұрын

    “Gigan is a cute femboy” Had to edit to fix grammar issues and clarify my point a bit more. I say this as a fan of both GxK and Minus one, as well as the wider kaiju genre, you made some very valid points, a good amount of which I do partially agree with. That being said, I feel like one of the biggest reasons we’re acting this way is because of the entire Doktor Skipper fiasco. His video and many imitators came out of the blue and began spreading misinformation and slander towards the wider Godzilla fandom as a way to, both directly and indirectly, go after the Monsterverse, and I feel that, in a way, the fallout from that has caused much of the community, and Monsterverse fans especially, to get far more defensive, a trait passed down from the Wilderness Era between Final Wars and 2014, where it was really hard to be a Godzilla or general kaiju fan due to kaiju in general being not as widespread or seen in a negative light. And it’s getting to or possibly is at its breaking point. For me personally, GxK was the most fun I’ve had with ANY piece of media since Godzilla King Of The Monsters. I acknowledge that it’s flawed, though I don’t see it being as flawed as many claim, but I also recognize it’s strengths, both as it’s own thing and in the wider kaiju genre, serving as not only a fun film, but one born from the same tree as Minus One, telling a pretty great story and bringing its own themes to the table, those being themes of parenthood from both a mother’s and father’s perspective, treatment of others of our own kind, as well as expanding the Monsterverse’s overarching themes of human relationships to the environment and religion. All of this while doing things with the genre that would have been extremely difficult if not impossible to do back then, such as Godzilla’s suplex and the Anti Gravity fight, and letting the kaiju’s personalities shine in full force, giving us one of the most personality filled kaiju since Showa Gigan in the form of Skar King, as well as reveling in the legacy of both characters and perfectly showcasing, by being the polar opposite to Minus One, why the giant monster, and especially both King Kong and Godzilla, has prevailed for as long as it has, giving them and the genre the respect it deserves. And all of that whilst allowing the inner child inside of us all let loose. I love this movie for the same reasons as to why I love Godzilla King Of The Monsters (My favorite movie ever made). Being a genuinely fun movie that has a lot more to it that not many people talk about or undermine. Also, I disagree on the “Gigan is a cute femboy” part. If anyone in the Godzilla franchise is a cute femboy, it's Megalon.

  • @IStoleYourToastdbd

    @IStoleYourToastdbd

    Ай бұрын

    Nah, it’s megaguirus

  • @asafakiva1619
    @asafakiva1619Ай бұрын

    As an ex-monsterverse fan. W video I too wasn't really that excited regarding the new film and was astonished how people gave a hard time for those who weren't interested. Not to mention how even the situation within the community itself isn't the best currently. The main trend is to keep the fight from 3 years ago over which monster is better and stronger rather than simply be happy we even got another film with the two. That of course doesn't mean ALL fams are like that and there are sane people. But for the most part..yeah it's a problematic place

  • @TheLorePerson07
    @TheLorePerson07Ай бұрын

    While I love GxK, i can watch criticism about it from people who GET THE FRANCHISE. I think the community is acting this way because of the doktor skipper vid and more like it, so the more irrational members of the community just turn into rabid animals when criticism for both GxK and -1 is not positive. If you dont like GxK or you don't like-1, fine, its your opinion, but this community needs to stop grandstanding that "x" Godzilla film is better than "x" Godzilla film. I love this community, but damn these last 2 movies have caused a lot of the more toxic members to come out.

  • @Josh-sz8ip

    @Josh-sz8ip

    Ай бұрын

    The last two MonsterVerse movies: GvK: Great escapism during the pandemic GxK: Great superhero action film showcasing Godzilla's Godly aura in spectacular style, and conveying an emotive story about Kong and Jia's search for belonging, with a positive message about mankind living in accordance with nature, with excellent kaiju action, and captivating plot twists if you avoided the trailers before watching like me

  • @Mrcryptidsarereal

    @Mrcryptidsarereal

    Ай бұрын

    @@Josh-sz8ip there is nothing godly about Godzilla in GxK get your head out of your ass

  • @nikpersons7107
    @nikpersons7107Ай бұрын

    I agree with the premise of your take, I happen to be on the other side as far as how i feel about GxK. I don't view the MV as a Showa style rebirth, it's entirely its own interpretation of Godzilla. Does it reference Toho films? Of course but its value resides in it's mythology of Godzilla as a global phenomenon, not a nuclear consequence for Japan. I happen to love it but I don't expect everyone to do the same. GxK has strengths that Minus One doesn't pursue just as Minus One has strengths GxK doesn't pursue. I'm not going to call one a steak and the other a cheeseburger. They're both valuable to me but i happen to love GxK more. That's it.

  • @Josh-sz8ip

    @Josh-sz8ip

    Ай бұрын

    It's mythology of Godzilla as a global phenomenon. It's ancient history of Earth. It's hollow Earth. It's weaving of real life myths into the story as representations of real monsters.

  • @-samart2004-
    @-samart2004-Ай бұрын

    I’m personally a fan of both the deep, substance filled godzilla movies that take themselves seriously, as well as the goofy over the top action packed godzilla movies, and I had a blast watching GxK. However, I very much agree that people need to stop acting like GxK can’t be criticized. There are *genuine* criticisms that could be said about GxK, like how (in my opinion) it was a bit overwhelming with how the film just didn’t slow down, or how the human characters are just lackluster, or how sometimes the VFX just weren’t the best. I had an amazing time watching GxK, and yet I still think that the film should be allowed to be criticized

  • @Worthy_Workshop
    @Worthy_WorkshopАй бұрын

    "Gigan is a cute femboy" I thought GXK was a great time, I completely understand the need to compare the two movies as actually films and it is true that there is absolutely bad things about GXK and I respect you and your opinions and also for trying to open up this discussion in a good way. 👍

  • @IndominusGojira
    @IndominusGojiraАй бұрын

    While I really enjoyed GxK i have to admit, it's not perfect or immune to criticism. Also the whole "the movie is a masterpiece and the critics are all just dumb poo-poo heads" is really childish and it doesn't help anything or anyone. Personally there are criticisms that I can understand such as the pacing being too fast or how there's no sense of scale, there are some criticisms that I don't personally agree with such as "why can't it be more like Minus One?". I love GxK at the end of the day but I really think it could've been better.

  • @Josh-sz8ip

    @Josh-sz8ip

    Ай бұрын

    Every fictional work could have been better. You have to abandon a project eventually, or you will edit it forever and never release it.

  • @IndominusGojira

    @IndominusGojira

    Ай бұрын

    @Josh-sz8ip Of course no work is absolutely flawless but that's fine.

  • @mlgodzilla4206
    @mlgodzilla4206Ай бұрын

    “You can’t be mad at the goofy stuff because Godzilla did it before!” Was something I hear a lot before the movie released And here I thought we hated those moments because it ruined Godzilla’s reputation And when someone compared GxK to PRU, people got so mad it was hilarious

  • @Josh-sz8ip

    @Josh-sz8ip

    Ай бұрын

    Goofiness doesn't stop the video game series Devil May Cry from being emotive. Isn't there a goofy part of everywhere all at once where someone shoves a banana up their butt?

  • @Josh-sz8ip

    @Josh-sz8ip

    Ай бұрын

    I've read Plato, Nietzsche, Aristotle, Immanuel Kant, Arthur Schopenhauer, Alan Watts, Marcus Aurelius; I don't need my fiction to have meaning to be enjoyable. Pure art is made for it's own sake, not to send a message. Just read nonfiction for deep meaning in life

  • @mlgodzilla4206

    @mlgodzilla4206

    Ай бұрын

    @@Josh-sz8ip gxk being fiction doesn’t excuse it from being mediocre. It can be enjoyable while being *actually* good

  • @matteomastrodomenico1231

    @matteomastrodomenico1231

    Ай бұрын

    Since when people hated those moments?

  • @mlgodzilla4206

    @mlgodzilla4206

    Ай бұрын

    @@matteomastrodomenico1231 a lot of people from what I’ve seen in my time as a fan.

  • @dorydeviance3774
    @dorydeviance377419 күн бұрын

    Godzilla Kong crossover should've been a one and done deal. They're really milking it with this angle and personally don't care for it.

  • @ZillaGoji
    @ZillaGojiАй бұрын

    In my personal opinion, people can hate the movie all they want. After all, it's their opinion. But I don't really like it when people just go all out and say *all* Monsterverse fans or the entirety of the Monsterverse is bad. So genuinely, thank you for not being one of those who hate the entirety of something just because a select few.

  • @DaikaijinGoji

    @DaikaijinGoji

    Ай бұрын

    I always try my best to differentiate the Fanbase as a whole amongst the crazies by not referring to the crazies as “the fans” but rather use choice words like fanboys, Simps, bootlickers, apologists, sycophants, etc. to differentiate them from the wider Fanbase as a whole.

  • @StickminDude2.0
    @StickminDude2.0Ай бұрын

    Now lets switch GXK with -1, how would that work out?

  • @rustyshackleford6849
    @rustyshackleford6849Ай бұрын

    Great video! 👍

  • @gabbo69420
    @gabbo69420Ай бұрын

    Honestly a very true and thought provoking video. What you said about Minus one comparison was totally true Imo. Youre not comparing the tones of the movies, youre comparing how good they actually are. What they are trying to acheive is null- Its how well executed and what they did to be that way that matters. And people in opposition to that are still saying "You cant compare them" because they didnt bother to watch the video. This comment section has a lot of people just saying things you already addressed in the video. nonetheless, I did enjoy GxK. Namely because I knew passion went into it, and it was genuinely exciting. but im gonna be honest, a lot of what they did in the movie pissed me off aswell. It feels like a fever dream to the rest of the MV, and Godzilla was horribly underutilized- not as in the movie wasnt Godzilla centred, I dont mind that. They just didnt do anything with him. SIde characters still have purposes... I was happy to watch the movie, but it left so much to be desired. MV is good... But it can be SO MUCH MORE. And Im hating to see that every time they release a new movie they arent doing that. Theyre really just beating around the bush with these movies. And im saying that because none of these movies are knockoffs outright or corporate in the regular fashion. They are indeed movies with a soul to them. Yet, I fully understand why you think the movie is terrible. It didnt acheive what Godzilla is, and what Godzilla can be. EVEN THOUGH, SOMEHOW, thats exactly what it was apparantly aiming for. It just doesnt explore it to its full potential. But to conclude on that... I really hope the community cuts the shit youre adressing here. Legendary needs to note the problems they did with this movie and use it to make a better one. What the community is doing now is blinding them from it.

  • @muchtoodog
    @muchtoodogАй бұрын

    posted a link to this vid on some guys youtube who was using all these arguments cause i was too lazy to type allat

  • @DaikaijinGoji

    @DaikaijinGoji

    Ай бұрын

    How much you want bet he won’t watch the video and completely prove my point. Edit: thankfully, it looks like I was wrong on that. Looks like there’s a little bit of hope left in humanity.

  • @danielbeckworth4935
    @danielbeckworth493526 күн бұрын

    “Gigan is a cute femboy” Now if I were to list all of the problems with GxK and the overall monsterverse franchise I could write a novel. But long story short the monsterverse fell off harder than Godzilla falling from orbit in KOTM. If anything it’s just repeating what the DCEU has done which is being wildly inconsistent to the point where some films don’t even feel like they’re in the same canon anymore and might as well just be in their own world. The fanbase making statements like what was mentioned in this video as well as worse argument such as “critic opinion doesn’t matter” are extremely childish and immature. The fanbase wasn’t saying anything like this when KOTM or GvK were released, which leads me to my big question. What Changed?

  • @mayitostudios6825
    @mayitostudios6825Ай бұрын

    Great video.

  • @squidtea
    @squidteaАй бұрын

    You should have called the video “Godzilla x Kong x Toxic Positivity”

  • @DaikaijinGoji

    @DaikaijinGoji

    Ай бұрын

    Damn you’re so right.

  • @petroshalkos3453

    @petroshalkos3453

    Ай бұрын

    Your wish has been granted

  • @Brandon_likes_godzilla
    @Brandon_likes_godzillaАй бұрын

    Those people that commented something bad about u they just don’t know what a opinion i disagred with your opinion but i diddnt get mad bc i know is a opinion

  • @balys2005
    @balys2005Ай бұрын

    "It's a Showa throwback, I like it!" wait till Legendary decides to reuse stock footage from previous movies.

  • @SouljiaBoi

    @SouljiaBoi

    Ай бұрын

    Theyre not that poor as toho was back then, GxK blew up with grossing

  • @Josh-sz8ip

    @Josh-sz8ip

    Ай бұрын

    Missing the point. It's not a throwback, it's passionately inspired by it. Adam Wingard's favourite era is Showa, but the story and action is still novel. It's an examplar of inspiration without imitation.

  • @Josh-sz8ip

    @Josh-sz8ip

    Ай бұрын

    Takashi Yamazaki expressed liking GxK, and is considering having Godzilla fight another Kaiju in the -1 sequel.

  • @kasaibouF29

    @kasaibouF29

    Ай бұрын

    KOTM used stock footage.

  • @himankgola
    @himankgolaАй бұрын

    As far as i observed, the majority Godzilla fanbase is a kind of general audience who don't care much about the consistency and nature of the character. Instead, they want new flavours to be added to the character so that the movies don't seem boring to them, that's why they bring the argument " Godzilla keeps changing his tone that's why he stood the test of time".... They are like, "Oh, we got a dark gritty Godzilla movie, now we want to see him as a funny and goofy guy" There are very less fans who are actually interested in the story and portrayal of the character. GxK was a "dumb FUN" movie and i enjoyed it, but when i return your home and think about it, there's no "FUN" but only "DUMB".

  • @kasaibouF29
    @kasaibouF29Ай бұрын

    "Gigan is a cute femboy" though which Gigan, Final Wars Gigan? Anyway, I have to agree with this.

  • @DaikaijinGoji

    @DaikaijinGoji

    Ай бұрын

    Yes GFW Gigan is how the meme originated.

  • @TheDeathbirdhimselfGIGAN2004
    @TheDeathbirdhimselfGIGAN2004Ай бұрын

    4:58 lamao how dare you insult the goat Lamao 😭

  • @DaikaijinGoji

    @DaikaijinGoji

    Ай бұрын

    Trust me, it hurts me just as much as it hurts you.

  • @markwhat6828
    @markwhat6828Ай бұрын

    litterally can't say anything sense you took the words out of my mouth, both sides of this debate can make good points, yes escapist films have their place but movies shuld always strive for being of good quality and alot of people are getiing liking somthing and somthing being good conflicted, oh and i'm not saying the gigan thing

  • @DaikaijinGoji

    @DaikaijinGoji

    Ай бұрын

    Fair enough Lol.

  • @MuffinBuggo
    @MuffinBuggoАй бұрын

    I do sometime do rages but only when someone is doing toxic dogshit

  • @robloxaingoji7246
    @robloxaingoji7246Ай бұрын

    You are seriously spitting facts. Also Gigan is a cute femboy.

  • @theZilla-uu8cd
    @theZilla-uu8cdАй бұрын

    Gigan is such a cutesy wutesy little femboy fr A solid amount of this video is fair, but I do think you missed one detail. As soon as GXK trailers dropped, KZreadrs who only make their content for money and engagement immediately started dumping all over the movie. Most comparisons made to Minus One were pretty unfair, at least imo, and it was pissing off a lot of people who generally liked the movie or at least wanted reviewers to wait until the movie was even out before trashing all over it. It’s easy to see why, when the KZreadrs and Grifters left the fandom after they got their engagement, people like you who just didn’t like it would get bunched in with the people like that. Some of the GXK fans are probably still seeing red and are just pissed that a movie they liked couldn’t be talked about without someone saying “oh but muh minus one is bettah! STUPID pink Godzilla is WOKE HOLLYWOOD SLOP!!!” This being said, I enjoyed the movie. Both sides of this argument are pretty stupid. Minus One was great, but you don’t need to love that movie and simultaneously shit all over GXK. GXK was…………. Decent…. I guess….. but you don’t need to put down the people who didn’t like it and group them into a crowd of assholes like Doktor Skipper or whatever. Also, I think this movie is going through recency hype. Recency bias. Whatever it’s called. While I think the movie was pretty mid, it was still pretty enjoyable, but it’s absolutely nowhere near as good as the internet is making it out to be right now. It’s overhyped as hell, man. I think it’s gonna die down in a few months, maybe a year, idk. I know it’ll die down at some point though. It always does, and then people will start actually using their brains when making responses and reviews

  • @DaikaijinGoji

    @DaikaijinGoji

    Ай бұрын

    I was thinking about addressing the alt right grifters but decided against it for 2 reasons. 1 a lot of it would be repeating what I said in my Doktor Skipper response video, & and 2 I didn’t find it relevant to the subject matter of the video. I felt it would’ve been an overly long tangent that would’ve distracted from the rest of the video which was already getting too long. For the record, I find all of those people annoying as hell especially how they don’t have any positions on anything. Like it starts off as the movie is a part of the “totally not made up” gay, Marxist, feminazi, SJew, reptilian conspiracy or whatever buzzwords they want to throw out, because… pink, I guess? but then the movie came out and they noticed the box office was doing good and the rabbit Fanbase, and immediately pivoted their videos to It’s an anti-woke masterpiece, nonsense, I say. Also from what I’ve seen most comparisons I’ve seen be made between -1.0 and GXK are plenty fair. Most of the critic reviews I’ve read and seen compare them descriptively rather than prescriptively. Pretty much just saying the movies are different and not necessarily saying whether or not that was a good or bad thing on its own, but just that it is what it is. And if not that then it would be the same sort of thing I mentioned in the video of elements that both movies need to get right. Either way very interesting comment and thanks for being civil. 👍

  • @cowan1234
    @cowan1234Ай бұрын

    I got told I was a "fake fan" for saying i just didn't have extremely high hopes for it before it was released... despite being obsessed with Godzilla since I was 2...

  • @RHR199X
    @RHR199XАй бұрын

    This was a serious breath of fresh air, and I haven’t really seen anyone talk about this in video form or at all.

  • @Godzillastinky
    @GodzillastinkyАй бұрын

    “Gigan is a c…cute femboy” I feel like people nowadays don’t understand the word opinion. If you like this movie that’s cool, but don’t be a dick. If you hate the Monsterverse and only like the toho take on Godzilla that’s understandable, but don’t go after others who like these Monsterverse movies and vice versa. I don’t think these people who like Godzilla understand the word respect which is actually a pivotal point of life. I don’t really like talking to others about Godzilla because it’s a lose lose situation. I say I prefer tohos overall Godzilla take better I get shit on. I say I like the Monsterverse movies I get shit on 😂. I don’t like this Godzilla community and it’s really annoying. I’ve been a fan of this series for so long that it hurts to see pissy people get mad at each other for no reason and I feel like its because of how sensitive and insecure people have become nowadays. This is a good video that explains to some how to act like a big boy and how it’s okay to compare something.

  • @liambollinger9430
    @liambollinger9430Ай бұрын

    As much as I love the movie I can understand the flaws and critics of it but every movie that’s super good can still have flaws and the the people who are mature think that they still have hope for more of theses movies to keep growing as of the movie is now in selling

  • @liambollinger9430

    @liambollinger9430

    Ай бұрын

    Ik half of what I said prob made no sense but ya get the vibe ya know XD??

  • @EronEnders
    @EronEndersАй бұрын

    This is nothing compared to the Transformers fanbase.

  • @FalangeRevolutionary986

    @FalangeRevolutionary986

    Ай бұрын

    Geewunners

  • @Iianator

    @Iianator

    Ай бұрын

    Rise of the Beast meat riders

  • @NVSirius
    @NVSiriusАй бұрын

    I Enjoy all The Lizard and Monke Movies :D

  • @WitchyAZ09
    @WitchyAZ09Ай бұрын

    you calling godzilla x kong fans toxic for just defending a movie from toxic minus one fans who constantly act like they know better despite it being the only godzilla film they watched?, don’t get me wrong i REALLY want to see minus one but no way hell will i unfairly compare it, they are both different movies that both fans can love

  • @dextro808

    @dextro808

    Ай бұрын

    "comparison" doesn't just mean going "this one is better". it's a part of film criticism. you compare and contrast and analyse both.

  • @WitchyAZ09

    @WitchyAZ09

    Ай бұрын

    @@dextro808 it all depends how you criticize as well. I’ve seen some doing very awful takes on both movies.

  • @dextro808

    @dextro808

    Ай бұрын

    @@WitchyAZ09 if i say "GxK is literally nothing like Minus One", i compared the two. saying they're different is also called "a comparison". but yeah, i get what you're saying. people forget that being a critic is an occupation and an art that one can suck at, and saying "it's just my opinion" is not the justification that people think it is. ok, it's your opinion, but your opinion is dumb and i'd rather listen to someone else's opinion that isn't dumb

  • @markwhat6828

    @markwhat6828

    Ай бұрын

    1: he didn't call them toxic 2: most of the minus one fans who are critisizing gxk are goji fans themselves and care about this farnchise and want quality movies to come out of it thta's why they are critasizing it, they're not all doctor skipper

  • @mlgodzilla4206

    @mlgodzilla4206

    Ай бұрын

    I find it hilarious that GxK fans gaslit themselves into thinking minus one lovers only watched -1

  • @Alice-jn4gv
    @Alice-jn4gvАй бұрын

    W

  • @Blackarooni
    @BlackarooniАй бұрын

    "Gigan is a cute femboy" Good video. Finally someone who's reasonable. I haven't seen a fandom this feral since Star Wars. I've gotten comments from people telling me to stop using my brain when critically analyzing movies, stop hating the schlock Hollywood spoon-feeds and that I'm a hater. They don't address any points whatsoever, with some small exceptions here and there (some of which I procrastinate in replying, I should fix that). But other than that, you can never have a reasonable discussion with a Godzilla fan. Never mess with Godzilla fans, they don't even know what the hell they're saying

  • @markwhat6828

    @markwhat6828

    Ай бұрын

    escapist hollywood shclock has it's place and i enjoyed the film but it shouldn't overwrite good strorytelling, because at the end of the day movies with those qualities are what get us here in the first place and the most iconic

  • @plagueslayer

    @plagueslayer

    Ай бұрын

    Didn’t you say little platoons video was well made? Even though he was calling people R slurs for liking the movie?

  • @Blackarooni

    @Blackarooni

    Ай бұрын

    @@plagueslayer Yes, I did. What does that have to do with this comment?

  • @plagueslayer

    @plagueslayer

    Ай бұрын

    @@Blackarooni hmmm

  • @plagueslayer

    @plagueslayer

    Ай бұрын

    Not gonna comment to much till I get some more information tbh

  • @GuiltlessGear
    @GuiltlessGearАй бұрын

    Legitimate no-rhetoric, no-bullshit question, do you think they should have made more movies like Godzilla 2014, or King of The Monsters 2019?

  • @gabbo69420

    @gabbo69420

    Ай бұрын

    Probably none. Both movies didn't explore godzillas full potential

  • @spinosaurusstriker

    @spinosaurusstriker

    Ай бұрын

    @@gabbo69420 And also were mediocre to bad

  • @markwhat6828

    @markwhat6828

    Ай бұрын

    they should have brought gareth edwards back for kotm and gvk, yeah 2014 was flawed but he could've improved on those mistakes and made some really good movies that explore his version of godzilla

  • @CJTheTokay

    @CJTheTokay

    Ай бұрын

    @@spinosaurusstriker Kotm is the best mv movie imo

  • @DaikaijinGoji

    @DaikaijinGoji

    Ай бұрын

    Kinda. imao my preferred direction for the MV is something like KSI and KOTM. Semi realistic but also semi mythic and fantastic. Mostly taking it serious but still allowing for good comedy if it fits and isn’t annoying (gonorrhea). But that’s just me.

  • @JuanyEdits
    @JuanyEditsАй бұрын

    The minus one thing is a silly argument, while i wont side with anything else the argument of "Its not Minus One!" Is idiotic in of itself because they are two completely, tonally different movies. Its like trying to compare The Batman to Infinity War, one is an amazing narrative and story, and is a emotional beated movie, while the other is a phenomenal, still well written, action movie witb superheroes. Its just not fair to compare them when theyre from two different genres. Instead, judge the movie as it is alone and nitpick the bad that comes from JUST the movie.

  • @markwhat6828

    @markwhat6828

    Ай бұрын

    you can still compare the characters in infinity war to the charcaters in the batman, nothing to do with the genre

  • @JuanyEdits

    @JuanyEdits

    Ай бұрын

    @@markwhat6828 I know, but when people compare GxK to Minus One, they praise Minus One at the same time for it's tone and portrayal of the aftermath of WWII

  • @markwhat6828

    @markwhat6828

    Ай бұрын

    @@JuanyEdits ehh, you're not wrong but they also praise the characters, stroy, effects and going back to the roots of the franchise, and i liked both movies but i can't ignore gxks flaws

  • @Darkazam1212
    @Darkazam1212Ай бұрын

    I love this movie. in my opinion its the best american Godzilla movie but if you dont like it i can see why

  • @TechAndBeyond381
    @TechAndBeyond381Ай бұрын

    Oh my god ive been saying this for so long. You cannot criticize GxK without people complaining saying its just a movie where "Big monkie and big lizard fights" so it cant be bad its supposed to be bad. It puts me in the position that saying anything negative about the Monsterverse is "not understanding" Godzilla and that Godzilla is supposed to be "goofy". If I say I want the Monsterverse to take itself more seriously people say "Oh if you want seriousness watch Godzilla Minus One" when thats a whole different idea/concept of Godzilla when I like Monsterverse Godzilla. I thought GxK was extremely boring and I thought the CGI direction was extremely horrid and it felt like a Marvel Movie. GxK lacked scale, impact, and just a general point to it. Godzilla King of Monsters is still my favorite Godzilla film because it was a perfect balance for Godzilla (Skull Island is the overall best Monsterverse film). I even used Pacific Rim as an example aswell but since people hold that movie to a higher regard they say the same thing when you compare GxK to Minus One. People see GxK the same way a parent sees their toddlers horrible drawing and put it on a fridge, they just hold it to a high regard enough to justify any criticism.

  • @TyeGraybill-um4do

    @TyeGraybill-um4do

    Ай бұрын

    "You cannot criticize GxK without people complaining saying its just a movie where "Big monkie and big lizard fights" so it cant be bad its supposed to be bad" ...What in the fuck are you talking about?

  • @carsonsmith7314

    @carsonsmith7314

    Ай бұрын

    Have you seen a Godzilla movie from Japan? because as someone who has seen all of them, (ALL OF THEM) you can be the same as them, with some differences. Really GxK is a tribute to the Showa era of Godzilla and Kong films, outside of the 1954 Gojira obviously. In those films they were low-scale and more for fun rather than drama and stakes. Also I don't think Pacific Rim is a good example of comparison considering that Guillermo del Toro said is was a "turn your brain off movie", paraphrasing but still there, and that the sequel just ruined everything. As for the Marvel movie criticism, what's wrong with that?

  • @RHR199X

    @RHR199X

    Ай бұрын

    @@TyeGraybill-um4doI’ve seen this is almost every comment section, it’s infuriating

  • @asafakiva1619

    @asafakiva1619

    Ай бұрын

    BINGO we have our right to dislike something others love (and may I say it goes even to the monsters themselves) That's why I decided to quit the monsterverse- it finally found it's feet and audience, but it also became too overprotective about it. And personally I'm just not on board with the direction it goes. No minus one comparisons..just not interesting to me

  • @thecoolbritishguy8733
    @thecoolbritishguy8733Ай бұрын

    yo

  • @Koremel1
    @Koremel1Ай бұрын

    GxK fans think good action = good movie that dosent deserve criticsm GxK is the worst mv movie PERIOD and adam is not a good director, the movie was fun but its not good lmao

  • @carsonsmith7314

    @carsonsmith7314

    Ай бұрын

    Out of curiosity, what is the best Monsterverse movie? because I can tell you, that every film in the Monsterverse is not as good as what Japan does with Godzilla or what Merrian C. Cooper (and later Peter Jackson) did with Kong. Plus movies don't have to be good to be GOOD.

  • @Koremel1

    @Koremel1

    Ай бұрын

    @@carsonsmith7314 2014 is the best one currently

  • @FalangeRevolutionary986

    @FalangeRevolutionary986

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Koremel1Yes, the one where Godzilla barely appears and is dark asf

  • @ChainsawRex

    @ChainsawRex

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@Koremel1 skull island is better

  • @kasaibouF29

    @kasaibouF29

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@FalangeRevolutionary986who cares?

  • @jetstreamsam7453
    @jetstreamsam7453Ай бұрын

    i liked it because big monster fighting, if its serious like kotm, or more silly, like GxK. giant kaiju battles are PEAK no matter what

  • @wesleyparker2359
    @wesleyparker2359Ай бұрын

    I feel like you are the person that you are complaining about, just on the other side of the argument. You just have a youtube channel so you get exposure for YOUR strawman arguments

  • @uxebob

    @uxebob

    Ай бұрын

    Nah

  • @RHR199X

    @RHR199X

    Ай бұрын

    These aren’t strawmen arguments at all, this is the discourse in the community verbatim and it’s finally being addressed

  • @gabbo69420

    @gabbo69420

    Ай бұрын

    I disagree with you. This guy made totally valid points IMO. And I liked GxK. Everything this guy says makes sense. GxK just have massive flaws that need to be realized

  • @spinosaurusstriker

    @spinosaurusstriker

    Ай бұрын

    It can't be a strawman argument when its the arguments they actually use.

  • @Mr.Wetherilli

    @Mr.Wetherilli

    Ай бұрын

    Classic g fan Objecting as always.

  • @XDarksoulX1129
    @XDarksoulX1129Ай бұрын

    This movie was bad. I was confused thinking I was the only one thinking this. Thanks for releasing this video. I'm tired of Godzilla being a side character in Godzilla movies.

  • @TOXICFREAK2021

    @TOXICFREAK2021

    Ай бұрын

    I mean it’s a Godzilla and Kong movie it’s not just a Godzilla movie

  • @carsonsmith7314

    @carsonsmith7314

    Ай бұрын

    1. It's a Godzilla and King Kong Crossover, and kong is more human(ish) so we relate to him better. 2. I've seen EVERY Godzilla movie, and a lot of them Godzilla is a side character in his movie. even in the Japanese films. 3. Godzilla's more of a force of nature rather than a character.

  • @XDarksoulX1129

    @XDarksoulX1129

    Ай бұрын

    @@carsonsmith7314 no he's not. He's legit the main character or the main antagonist. Please tell me a human you remember cause I remember none. Just cause it's a Godzilla Kong movie doesn't mean the whole thing needs to be Kong.

  • @bluespino2024
    @bluespino2024Ай бұрын

    “Gigan is a cute femboy” Although I personally enjoyed GxK (and I actually laughed at parts of it), MonsterVerse fans like this are mostly one of the reasons why I tend not to touch the series with a barge pole.

  • @mycaleb8

    @mycaleb8

    Ай бұрын

    I enjoyed the movie, but it was a deeply flawed mess of a film, and would have been better if it was good.

  • @RadicalRaiden

    @RadicalRaiden

    Ай бұрын

    Shut up👍🔥💯🔥💯🔥💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥💯🔥💯🔥🔥💯🔥💯

  • @Koremel1
    @Koremel1Ай бұрын

    and Adam disgusts me, he RUINED THE MONSTERVERSE FOR THE SAKE OF MAVING GODZILLA DESIGN GIVE HIM A BONER

  • @hyperboliccancers3269

    @hyperboliccancers3269

    Ай бұрын

    Can't ruin something that's already shit :D

  • @1954_Gojira
    @1954_GojiraАй бұрын

    While I agree that this movie is flawed and,despite absolutely loving it, I can handle basic criticism of a movie (shocker) you can't compare it to Minus One. Two completely separate movies with completly diffrent tones, messages, action, genres ect. Its like comparing The Boys to Teen Titans Go, literally the ONLY possible similarity is Superheroes, and even then those heroes look,act and sound completely diffrent.

  • @mycaleb8
    @mycaleb8Ай бұрын

    "It's Showa, and I'm here for it!" "Inject that Showa directly into my veins" "Godzilla has always been silly!" "Godzilla is the most versatile character in fiction!" "Not everything can be Minus 1" "You can't compare this movie to Minus 1" Etc, etc, etc, etc.

  • @tentacion4507

    @tentacion4507

    Ай бұрын

    Stay mad man, it was fun... Nobody complained about Heisei and it had wacky stuff in it, my problem with your criticism is... Well it isn't much of one, you sound bitter that people like serious and complex Godzilla movies, but also want the fun action packed ones, you're the one with the problem here.

  • @mycaleb8

    @mycaleb8

    Ай бұрын

    @@tentacion4507 I liked GxK, Heisei was the worst era, I'm not bugged by Godzilla's tone one way or the other.

  • @markwhat6828

    @markwhat6828

    Ай бұрын

    "it's just my opioin"

  • @tentacion4507

    @tentacion4507

    Ай бұрын

    @@mycaleb8 ah, it appears I have horribly misread once again, my apologies

  • @mycaleb8

    @mycaleb8

    Ай бұрын

    @@tentacion4507 You read me correctly. You just falsely ascribed a negative stereotype to the man behind the take. I was snarling GxK fans, because their behavior and takes have been cringe.

  • @danshmitka5796
    @danshmitka5796Ай бұрын

    I mean, toxic positive minus one fans vs toxic positive monsterverse fans. It's both sides but you don't care.

  • @RHR199X

    @RHR199X

    Ай бұрын

    Minus One fans aren’t really toxically positive, not like with GXK. Minus One is just one movie whereas GXK has the baggage of the Monsterverse and it’s tonal shift to carry, meaning one side will eventually get far more defensive than the other

  • @danshmitka5796

    @danshmitka5796

    Ай бұрын

    @@RHR199X no, Minus 1 has 54 and shin fans are the same. If it's not that type of movie they hate you and bash any other opinions regardless.

  • @petroshalkos3453

    @petroshalkos3453

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@danshmitka5796I've never seen a minus one fan just blatantly hating on people for preferring the mv, so I don't believe your point stands 😔

  • @danshmitka5796

    @danshmitka5796

    Ай бұрын

    @@petroshalkos3453 I never met a monsterverse fan doing exactly the same thing but I at least acknowledge both sides have toxic fans.

  • @GuiltlessGear
    @GuiltlessGearАй бұрын

    More like No Fun Allowed

  • @Dektoonics_inc.

    @Dektoonics_inc.

    Ай бұрын

    I thought the destruction scenes were pretty fun

  • @Josh-sz8ip
    @Josh-sz8ipАй бұрын

    The MonsterVerse as a whole is supposed to be a microcosm of all previous eras. It's currently in the Showa era, but will move on. But I'm sorry you lost your inner child and couldn't enjoy it. People from the 1950s would absolutely love it if you took it back in time. People take medern tech for granted

  • @Josh-sz8ip

    @Josh-sz8ip

    Ай бұрын

    Adam Wingard included Easter eggs referencing many of the films. He sys that his top five Godzilla movies are the original, Godzilla vs. Hedorah, Godzilla vs. The Astro Monster, Godzilla: Destroy All Monsters, and Godzilla vs. Destoroyah. He says “I’m not including [Godzilla] Minus One because it’s too new to me, but I would definitely say Minus One would be in my top five as well"

  • @CGFMovies
    @CGFMoviesАй бұрын

    Honestly I don’t care what the MV does, so long as it doesn’t do KOTM again… xD

  • @VelociRaptor7586-cw7fy
    @VelociRaptor7586-cw7fyАй бұрын

    L Meatriding

  • @Godzilla-jr5gi

    @Godzilla-jr5gi

    Ай бұрын

    🤓

  • @Fog-ys2nb

    @Fog-ys2nb

    Ай бұрын

    Monsterverse flow chart of cope

  • @rylah___3443
    @rylah___3443Ай бұрын

    L video ngl

  • @Godzilla-jr5gi

    @Godzilla-jr5gi

    Ай бұрын

    🤓

  • @rylah___3443

    @rylah___3443

    Ай бұрын

    @@Godzilla-jr5gi bro sent a selfie

  • @mlgodzilla4206

    @mlgodzilla4206

    Ай бұрын

    Proving the video’s point lmao

  • @Mr.Wetherilli

    @Mr.Wetherilli

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@mlgodzilla4206 that's literally all they do

  • @Godzilla-jr5gi
    @Godzilla-jr5giАй бұрын

    Godzilla x Kong is the 4th worst godzilla movie come fight me.

  • @kasaibouF29

    @kasaibouF29

    Ай бұрын

    Is GXK as broken as Planet Eater and Godzilla vs Biollante and Godzilla vs King Ghidorah?

  • @Godzilla-jr5gi

    @Godzilla-jr5gi

    Ай бұрын

    @@kasaibouF29 definitely not planet eater but yes for those 2 heisei movies cuz unlike GxK. GvB and GvKG are objectively GREAT MOVIES!

  • @kasaibouF29

    @kasaibouF29

    Ай бұрын

    @@Godzilla-jr5gi I don't know man, GvB Is regarded as a bad sequel because it completely forgot about bird sounds and cadmium when it's supposed to be a sequel to 84, and GvKG not only has broken time travel mechanics, but if Godzillasaurus was transported to the bottom of the Bering Sea, He would have either drown or have bled to death, thereby breaking the heise continuity because Godzillasaurus has to mutate into 84Goji for 84 to happen.

  • @trexboy269
    @trexboy269Ай бұрын

    I fucking hate Adam Wingard .He ruined the godzilla franchise forever

  • @RHR199X

    @RHR199X

    Ай бұрын

    No one can permanently ruin a franchise forever, it takes a lot to do that

  • @mycaleb8

    @mycaleb8

    Ай бұрын

    This is nonsense man. He made two movies you don't like in a 70 year franchise with a separate Japanese franchise still going strong.

  • @justinpartogi

    @justinpartogi

    Ай бұрын

    He ruined it for you...but...ummm...the majority still love the movie...i mean where else would that mountains of money came from am i right???

  • @DaikaijinGoji

    @DaikaijinGoji

    Ай бұрын

    Ok that’s a bit harsh. I may not like Adam’s movies but saying he ruined Godzilla forever is a-bit over the top vitriolic. At most he ruined the monsterverse for the near future, and even then I wouldn’t fully put the blame all on him. I think everyone involved; him, WB, Toho, Legendary, and any of the other creatives behind the scenes just miscalculated what these movies should be.

  • @markwhat6828

    @markwhat6828

    Ай бұрын

    @@RHR199X ryan johnson and j.j. abrams:

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