the virgin JLG vs the chad Agnès Varda

@Anthony-yd2we

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I’m sure you were with as beautiful people as Godard was in his relationships.

So for those confused, some level of context on their relationship and the French language could help clear it up. Basically, Agnes Varda and her husband were friends with Jean-Luc Goddard, when Agnes' husband died, Jean-Luc left a pretentious note which was just the name of the restaurant where they used to eat. Agnes didn't appreciate that and there was a rift between them because she wanted to him to leave a note/say something more than just that, she was offended by his simplistic response and Goddard knew this. As a result, when Agnes went to see him he left her the same note she got upset about and refused to see her as a joke/to be petty. The fact that he left the same note there signifies that they talked and he was expecting her to come, but refused to let her in because he was still pissy about the rift because of the note and decided to be petty by saying it again even though it hurt Agnes because it wasn't enough and caused the rift.

@fareeha5467

2 жыл бұрын

I’m trying very hard to understand

@bomnitoperro9422

2 жыл бұрын

He sounds very stupid to be honest. Why woyld you do that to a close friend ?

@blessedpapa

2 жыл бұрын

thx, I didnt know this and Demy died back in 1990, thats such a long grudge to hold.

@charleskone1446

2 жыл бұрын

@@bomnitoperro9422 because in France, despite his fame, Godard is known for being a jerk ( sorry for my bad english )

@sundromos9456

2 жыл бұрын

@@fareeha5467 Basically, he agreed to meet her for the filming and when she arrived, no luck, because he had chickened out, leaving a bit of a cruel note instead. He was not a nice old man.

she should've taken a bite out of the brioche before leaving it

@EyeLean5280

2 жыл бұрын

LOL!

@maxis4343

2 жыл бұрын

spit on it

@patavinity1262

2 жыл бұрын

This comment made my day.

@jonahmann

Жыл бұрын

THAT WOULD HAVE OWNED HIM HOLY SHIT THAT WOULD HAVE SHOWED HIM !!!

@darkacadpresenceinblood

Жыл бұрын

would've been a power move

''i drew a heart anyway'' :')

R.I.P. Varda. She should've been the one to outlive them all.

@violinsinthevoid4579

Жыл бұрын

The day you posted this, Godard died.

@tristan4621

Жыл бұрын

@@violinsinthevoid4579 this is reminding me of lewis spears doing standup about prince phillip being an old dog who was bound to die, and then was informed that prince phillip had just died moments before

@SirRRubis

Жыл бұрын

If you are talking about the French new wave there is still one alive. It's Jacques Rozier. So he is the one to outlive them all anyway.

@squirtreynoldscinema

Жыл бұрын

@@SirRRubis Luc Moullet too. He's actually the only original Cahiers writer left who directed films.

I like a lot of Godard's movies but the way he treated Varda here shows what a pretentious twat he is. I have come to admire Varda and her works over the years particularly that documentary on the gleaners. Her humanity and humor always shine through.

@erikgwk

2 жыл бұрын

why did they go with a camera?

@reginaatonon

2 жыл бұрын

@@erikgwk it’s a documentary (Visages, villages) about photography and at the end they went to visit Godard cause he and Varda were good old friends

@kencur9690

2 жыл бұрын

@@reginaatonon and that doesn’t mean he wants to be part of that documentary. His life, his choice.

@aliceramenhead

2 жыл бұрын

@@kencur9690 He AGREED to be in the documentary. He and Agnes Varda already talked about it before she came over. Then when she got there, he didn't let her in and basically disrespected her, his friend, out of spite, because of some old grudge that was his fault in the first place. Look up what Godard had to say when Agnes Varda's husband (who was also his friend!) died. Godard: great filmmaker, pretentious douchebag

@kencur9690

2 жыл бұрын

@@aliceramenhead and then he clearly DISAGREED with it, as he is free to do. People can change their mind, and it seems he was wise enough to change his. I can’t know the full story (and neither can you) so I am not going to take sides. Perhaps there was spite, I am not excluding it, but going with a camera is still distasteful so I can understand that. In the end it’s his life, his choice.

I love Varda, her personality and humour, and it pained me so much to see her hurt like this after she was looking forward to meet Jean-Luc again :(

@emmajane646

Жыл бұрын

I actually cried when I saw this. It felt so cruel. Even though I was a huge Godard fan in my youth.

@veagacastro3045

11 ай бұрын

Years later, I had the opportunity to talk at length about this mysterious scene with Rosalie Varda, Agnès' daughter and producer of her latest films, including Visages, villages. In the course of our dialogue, she gave me to understand that the production team already knew that Godard would not appear, that he had left them standing, but they did not tell Agnès. When they turned on the cameras, she was convinced Godard would be there. It wasn't an easy decision to make, but they wanted to capture his natural reaction, which was to call him a "rat.""[Jean-Luc] sent me a kind of photo collage of Agnés [after her death]," said Rosalie Varda, who produced Visages, villages. "It was something very special. It's a secret. But he sent me something very beautiful. I think he cared a lot about Agnès. He saw all her films." Interview with Rosalie Varda after her mother's passing, Indiewire, 2019. Rosalie talked about it with her mother several times afterwards because she had very mixed feelings about the scene, but ultimately decided to leave it in the final cut. Agnès, who died almost two years after filming, came to understand what her old friend did, or at least thought he had done: "I really think it was a very generous act on his part. And that's what my mother came to understand. Jean-Luc knew that if he appeared in the last sequence of the film, he would steal the entire film. It would no longer be my mother's last film, but Godard's last appearance." Jean-Luc Godard's obituary line by Carlos Reviriego, El Español,

@squirtreynoldscinema

5 ай бұрын

@@veagacastro3045 It had the EXACT effect that he assumed it would. The majority of people that know of Visages, villages/Faces Places is because of this Godard scene. I honestly think it's rather deceptive to leave this scene in without a disclaimer in the end or to leave it in, period.

I love Godard as a filmmaker, but I'm glad we're not friends.

@ifradem

3 жыл бұрын

I love you as a friend, but I'm glad you're not a filmmaker.

@zackcolbourne6921

3 жыл бұрын

@@ifradem You may want to sit down for the bad news, then...

@ifradem

3 жыл бұрын

@@zackcolbourne6921 Oh no, don't tell me we're not friends ! You'd do to me as Godard did to Agnès ?

@orangebetsy

3 жыл бұрын

@@ifradem i film you as Godard's love, but i don't befriend gladness

@Maggikhor963

2 жыл бұрын

Don't be so quick to judge. You don't know his side of the story.

Godard is the living embodiment of everything he claims to hate: a bore and a cliche.

@Onmysheet

2 жыл бұрын

His only good film is Breathless. His rest are boring, a one hit wonder.

@kelechi_77

2 жыл бұрын

@@Onmysheet Masculin Feminin, La Chinoise???

@Niko3387Y

2 жыл бұрын

Breathless is horrible too.

@maximeblondeau7991

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe that's why he is so bitter

@SallyMankus130

2 жыл бұрын

I mean, he might be an asshole but what he did here was neither boring or cliched. I do love Herzog's quote about his films: "Someone like Jean-Luc Godard is for me intellectual counterfeit money when compared to a good kung fu film, a Fred Astaire picture, or a porno."

I love the interpretation Agnes brought to this scene. She saw Jean Lucs message as him participating in the film. She took it as him playing his part in the story of this film.

The note she left on JLG's door is the level of cool-bad-bitching I wanna achieve in life

@abdullaalsaleh

2 жыл бұрын

“But I’ll leave a heart anyway” is such a cool move.

Everyone who is cursing Godard for this scene just missed the point of it. And Agnes agrees with me... So, a little bit of context: "Years later, I had the opportunity to talk at length about this mysterious scene with Rosalie Varda, Agnès' daughter and producer of her latest films, including Visages, villages. In the course of our dialogue, she gave me to understand that the production team already knew that Godard would not appear, that he had left them standing, but they did not tell Agnès. When they turned on the cameras, she was convinced Godard would be there. It wasn't an easy decision to make, but they wanted to capture his natural reaction, which was to call him a "rat." "[Jean-Luc] sent me a kind of photo collage of Agnés [after her death]," said Rosalie Varda, who produced Visages, villages. "It was something very special. It's a secret. But he sent me something very beautiful. I think he cared a lot about Agnès. He saw all her films." Interview with Rosalie Varda after her mother's passing, Indiewire, 2019. So, Godard still being a asshole? Well, we have this too... "Rosalie talked about it with her mother several times afterwards because she had very mixed feelings about the scene, but ultimately decided to leave it in the final cut. Agnès, who died almost two years after filming, came to understand what her old friend did, or at least thought he had done: 'I really think it was a very generous act on his part. And that's what my mother came to understand. Jean-Luc knew that if he appeared in the last sequence of the film, he would steal the entire film. It would no longer be my mother's last film, but Godard's last appearance'." Jean-Luc Godard's obituary line by Carlos Reviriego, El Español, People have to understand: documentaries is not life, its cinema. And cinema= lies.

@nicklanier4041

6 ай бұрын

I guess what weirds me out is his cold reference to her dead husband. He didn't just "not show up", he also left a hurtful message for her to see when she got there

@nicklanier4041

3 ай бұрын

@@tapecase intentions don't always make something tactful, wise or right

I'm just happy JR was there with her. It was very touching to see him rubbing her shoulder like that. The dynamic between them through the whole film is so sweet.

@violettrojo

Жыл бұрын

it's a show.

@vraikorrigan

Жыл бұрын

JR is a cynical vampire.

@veagacastro3045

11 ай бұрын

JR knew that Godard wouldnt make a apearence. All the crew knew. They used varda's emotions... Years later, I had the opportunity to talk at length about this mysterious scene with Rosalie Varda, Agnès' daughter and producer of her latest films, including Visages, villages. In the course of our dialogue, she gave me to understand that the production team already knew that Godard would not appear, that he had left them standing, but they did not tell Agnès. When they turned on the cameras, she was convinced Godard would be there. It wasn't an easy decision to make, but they wanted to capture his natural reaction, which was to call him a "rat.""[Jean-Luc] sent me a kind of photo collage of Agnés [after her death]," said Rosalie Varda, who produced Visages, villages. "It was something very special. It's a secret. But he sent me something very beautiful. I think he cared a lot about Agnès. He saw all her films." Interview with Rosalie Varda after her mother's passing, Indiewire, 2019.

I would have put a camera on his door for several hours just for the precious moment when Jean Luc takes the bag with the croissant in it.

this breaks my heart, Varda didnt deserve this at all :(

@vraikorrigan

Жыл бұрын

Godard left a personal message to Varda, and only she can think something of it (to blame him, or not). Our society produces arrogant voyeurists, compared to whom Godard is a monster of humility.

@veagacastro3045

11 ай бұрын

Years later, I had the opportunity to talk at length about this mysterious scene with Rosalie Varda, Agnès' daughter and producer of her latest films, including Visages, villages. In the course of our dialogue, she gave me to understand that the production team already knew that Godard would not appear, that he had left them standing, but they did not tell Agnès. When they turned on the cameras, she was convinced Godard would be there. It wasn't an easy decision to make, but they wanted to capture his natural reaction, which was to call him a "rat.""[Jean-Luc] sent me a kind of photo collage of Agnés [after her death]," said Rosalie Varda, who produced Visages, villages. "It was something very special. It's a secret. But he sent me something very beautiful. I think he cared a lot about Agnès. He saw all her films." Interview with Rosalie Varda after her mother's passing, Indiewire, 2019.

@hirsutelungproductions2426

10 ай бұрын

@@veagacastro3045 JR (the co-director of this film) said the same thing. He tells Agnes that he felt Godard not showing up made the film better, and he was right. I think Agnes realized that, too, even though her feelings were still hurt.

He lost the opportunity to see his former friend Agnès Varda for the last time. She died shortly after. They had known each other since the late 1950s. (J'espère que la traduction est correcte, je ne parle pas bien anglais).

@ivetteperezjuarez6671

Жыл бұрын

Omg nooo): I don't think he regretted that decision tbh, considering he was not a good person

@violettrojo

Жыл бұрын

Qui vous dit qu'il ne l'a pas revu hors de cette mise en scène narcissique d'Agnès Varda ?

@vraikorrigan

Жыл бұрын

@@violettrojo Heureusement que vous êtes là pour ramener du bon sens, merci !

@HansonZhang-ri2lj

3 ай бұрын

@@violettrojo Agreed, my friend, this film is basically trash, I wouldn't watch it if it wasn't for Agnes Varda or this particular scene.

Can he not be straightforward and uncomplicated on any occasion?

@donello430

2 жыл бұрын

No, because then people would realize he's a fraud

@vraikorrigan

Жыл бұрын

The impostors here are all those commentators who give their opinion on a personal story of friendship and estrangement. It is not because JR and Varda had the bad taste to film this episode that everyone can become a specialist in Godard's character & behaviour. Godard left a personal message to Varda, and only she can think something of it (to blame him, or not). Our society produces arrogant voyeurists, compared to whom Godard is a monster of humility.

@boobysr

Жыл бұрын

@@vraikorrigan wouldn't that make you an imposter sussy

@vraikorrigan

Жыл бұрын

@@boobysr No. You are a sophist.

@emilianomartorell3587

Жыл бұрын

@@vraikorrigan what do you mean by monster of humility?

Why didn't they just continue filming it to see what happens when he comes out? That would have been 'Jean-Luc from 5 to 7' or whatever the timeframe was!

@It9LpBFS37

2 жыл бұрын

Well he already knew 2 or 3 things about her :P

@vivekanand5563

Жыл бұрын

​@@It9LpBFS37 They seem to have a lot of Contempt for each other.

Esse doc é fantástico. Me fez querer conhecer muito mais o trabalho de Varda e atualmente, é minha documentarista favorita. Realmente godard foi muito infeliz nesse tratamento a ela. De todo modo... Viva, Varda!

@veagacastro3045

11 ай бұрын

Pior que nem é culpa dele. A produção já sabia que ele não iria aparecer, pois ele havia negado a aparição no documentário. No entanto eles não avisaram pra Varda porque eles queriam usar a situação para tirar uma reação dela. A crueldade na real tá mais na produção do que na ação do Godard, inclusive a Varda reconheceu isso anos depois e entendeu o que realmente aconteceu. Inclusive, li isso um dia desses: Rosalie talked about it with her mother several times afterwards because she had very mixed feelings about the scene, but ultimately decided to leave it in the final cut. Agnès, who died almost two years after filming, came to understand what her old friend did, or at least thought he had done: "I really think it was a very generous act on his part. And that's what my mother came to understand. Jean-Luc knew that if he appeared in the last sequence of the film, he would steal the entire film. It would no longer be my mother's last film, but Godard's last appearance." Jean-Luc Godard's obituary line by Carlos Reviriego, El Español,

“Lend me your quill” is such a badass way to start a diss letter.

"i drew a heart anyway"

Approximately 10 seconds later that bag fell off

Pensé que era un sketch cómico, no tenía idea de qué era un documental

@LordExarKun

2 жыл бұрын

Faces places, está bueno.

I feel bad for Varda here :( she’s a sweet lady. Godard is a piece of shit but one of the greatest and most innovative filmmakers. Varda is one of the greats as well.

@thetruestrepairman7423

2 жыл бұрын

He is good and innovative, but sorry he is not among the greatest if you ask me

@lukess.s

2 жыл бұрын

@@thetruestrepairman7423 here's the thing: nobody did ask you

@thetruestrepairman7423

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukess.s Dude, grow up...

@offcialaa2progamr

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukess.s The real question is, did anybldy ask whether or not someone asked him? And another question, who could have asked him? Youre the second reply

@coltonc7832

2 жыл бұрын

@@lukess.s Baby boy cannot deal with other people having opinions lol

I hope Godard and Varda exchanged a conversation after this, bless them 🙏

@Kraisedion

2 жыл бұрын

I hope so too, but it must have been a bit later if so. When she was promoting the film after its release Varda was asked if JLG had seen the film, and she said she had sent him a copy but never received a reply.

@violettrojo

Жыл бұрын

@@Kraisedion obviously Varda never learned to know Godard. Or she was expecting a bond he did not have with her. Anymore or ever.

That door knob won't hold that bag for very long lol

@drparnassus2867

2 жыл бұрын

If loads of seagulls and/or rats end up eating Godard's brioches, he deserves it!

He gone 💀

I remember at the Curzon Mayfair in London for the Faces Places Q&A. One person asked Varda about Godard and she said *SCREW HIM* and JR had his view that Godard hated being nostalgic.

Watching a Godard film is like pulling teeth. So self absorbed

Жыл бұрын

No, this is Woody Allen.

Bro, everyone is calling this guy a piece of shit and I have no idea what is happening.

@cameronacaves

2 жыл бұрын

When Agnes' husband Jacques died he wrote a specific message, "A la ville de Douarnenez", a restaurant that Jacques, Agnes, and JL all ate at frequently. That's all he wrote, not sorry for your loss, not a long epitaph, just that. Knowing they were showing up, he wrote the same message on the door to be a petty asshole.

@tufank1900

2 жыл бұрын

@@cameronacaves what does that mean

@metheslayed19

2 жыл бұрын

@@tufank1900 probably that they stopped eating there frequently or maybe some rift happened at that restaurant between them

@GodDamnRider

2 жыл бұрын

ha, just like in his movies

@benrowley2456

2 жыл бұрын

Even reading these replies I still don’t know what the fuck is going on

If there really is an afterlife where you meet your friends from the past, Agnès Varda will have something to say today.

Godard has his moments, but you can definitely sense his misanthropic tendencies through all his movies. He wants his characters to die or live sad, meaningless lives. And some of his stuff hasn't even aged well or isn't that deep anymore. Varda made documentaries on the marginalized and important leaders (ie Black Panthers), films that brought meaning in sadness and had a unique female gaze in a male dominated movement. I saw her at an event shortly before she passed away, she was so humble. Her talent will live on ❤️

@MrLavajet

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for calling out Godard. I thought I was the only one who didn't see what the big deal was.

@EyeLean5280

2 жыл бұрын

Spot on.

@sewagedump

2 жыл бұрын

You don't know what Goddard wanted lol

@lucieblaise8793

2 жыл бұрын

@@sewagedump do you?

@sewagedump

2 жыл бұрын

@@lucieblaise8793 No, so I'm not going to put words in his mouth, stand on his shoulders, and tell everybody here in the comment section what he wanted like you just did, poser.

Varda is a better director than Godard, anyway

"a la ville de douarnenez" means "the meeting in Samarra" ! Varda and her camera and her mise en scène ... I love the ashtray on the window sill ^^ how to say f**off or I will never forget you and Jacques with amu-zing grace. sacré Jean Luc.

Godard commited a rational suicide, no one knew godard, how can you blame him? maybe Agnes knew something, and i think really, that is the reason why she was sad, she think, maybe after all those years, they could have a talk, but godard was dead, and how could you talk to a grave?

That bag of brioches is by no means properly secured to that handle

What if Godard is saying he's at the restaraunt, meet him there?

@user-wc1ef4tr2k

2 жыл бұрын

High chance the restaurant closed

@violettrojo

Жыл бұрын

The meeting "a la ville de douarnenez" ! YES ! that's it ! Like "the meeting in Samarra" ! SPOT ON !

Are we sure he was trying to hurt her? So the three of them used to eat (and probably enjoy a friendship) there at this "Ville de Douarnenez" restaurant. Godard writes “to the Ville De Douarnenez” when Jacques dies. Was that to hurt? For me it's like trying to evoke those past memories of their friendship. And then he writes now again on the glass to remind her of the importance of their friendship to him, despite perhaps not being able or not predisposed for whatever reason to see her. Or maybe he wasn't willing to see her after too long through the excuse of a camera and a film and felt a bit offended by that. Why are we so sure he was trying to hurt her?

@guilhermemarques9438

2 жыл бұрын

Even if that's all true it's still weird and hurtful.

@fede018

2 жыл бұрын

I don't see anything offensive about the message. Also, someone showed up with a camera crew and he doesn't have a right to not want to be filmed? This was blown way out of proportion.

@Ason814

2 жыл бұрын

lol i just assume that agnes varda as a long-time friend of his knows more about godard as a person and how he communicates than we do

@guilhermemarques9438

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ason814 yes

@gasparnuno7737

2 жыл бұрын

@@magnuskarlsson8655 you don't know who she is right? LMAO i think you're projecting

I'm pretty sure that the problem was JR... i won't open my door to JR as well...

@vraikorrigan

Жыл бұрын

Exactly!

@Pados_music

Жыл бұрын

Who's J.R.?

@theshortlist

Жыл бұрын

@@Pados_music the artist with her !

@filetinho

10 ай бұрын

whats wrong with him?

Very sad. But there is a detail: Varda wasn't visiting him as a friend. She was visiting as a filmmaker. As gross as he was, it may be more complex than it appears to be.

@domoroboto8752

2 жыл бұрын

Well said. I think people forget this element to the meeting

@matiasescalante7752

2 жыл бұрын

Knowing Varda from his movies and how she treats people, I don't think she just went to see him as a filmmaker, but as a friend. If Godard had asked him to turn off everything or delete that part, I'm sure she would have done it, because Varda always cared about people, in the end they were the center of his cinema. I find no excuse to do something like that to someone who, as far as we know, were friends.

@domoroboto8752

2 жыл бұрын

@@matiasescalante7752 Knowing how Godard reacted to Truffaut after Day for Night (how offended he can become, how hurt he was, etc.) I would’ve communicated better with Godard if I was his friend and wanted to pull up on him like this. Who knows his side of the story-i just think it’s too harsh to judge Godard without knowing exactly his reasons.

@lerecklessbadger2411

2 жыл бұрын

@@DylanInBaja rock and Roll in’ as Godard sees it..

@bluemoods6095

2 жыл бұрын

@@domoroboto8752 What happened between Godard and Truffaut?

I love her film Vagabond, she friends with Jim Morrison back in the day.What a lady.❤️

What’s funny is that Varda admitted later that she liked that this happened because she thought this made this film better. Godard is not the one to give you the convenient thing that you want, no matter how rude it may be.

i’m trying to imagine an alternative to this, like JLG inviting them in and there being loads of laughs and tears and hugs. i thought that seemed like it would never happen but i guess it could’ve done

@novocaneboy

2 жыл бұрын

it’s going a bit far to call JLG names though. lots of old ppl dont wanna be on camera. maybe he had diarrhoea that day or has early dementia. point is not to go too far in criticising ppl who are absent

@asachav8172

Жыл бұрын

Filming though...

Did he write it backwards from the inside so she could read it? That takes skill.

I have literally never forgiven Godard for this...

Source: Visages, Villages. The fellow who looks like Godard is JR.

@saturnalia2567

2 жыл бұрын

Can you explain the context of this clip?

I really feel vindicated about only especially liking one or two of his films

One can be a genius AND a childish idiot, at the same time.

@VelthurLausa

3 ай бұрын

A genius he was decidedly not. He had some very sporadic moments of genius, like many other people do.

Recommend just after Godard died. Left this here as a pretentious note in his legacy with a bag of brioche 🥐🥮

I guess it's another good exemple of why it's best to make a separation between the artists and their art when judging them...

@percival7754

2 жыл бұрын

except his shit sucks really bad

@Afriboy10

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao no it isn't. Just accept that some people are shitty people and deal with the fact that they can also have creativity and that moves people. If you don't think that their talent excuses their behaviour, then just don't excuse it. Not that complicated.

@citron666

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah like how you separate your neighbour or doctor or politian from the person they are

@themediahideout8221

2 жыл бұрын

@@Afriboy10 thats what bruno's saying, jerks can be talented, just seperate the person, who is a jerk, from the art, which is good, just happens to be made by a jerk. at least a jerk by the public's usually warped standards and view of the artist.

@Afriboy10

2 жыл бұрын

@@themediahideout8221 This is the opposite of what I am saying. He (and you apparently) want to see Godard 'the genius' or whatever, without recognising that this same adulation for his brilliance must also deal with the fact that he is aloof and pretentious. This is not "oh the public has warped standards" - Godard "the artist" and Godard "the jerk" as you put it are the same person.

So, for some context; Godard had already told the team who helped Varda for the film that he didn't want to appear on the movie (and the reason, even, was somewhat of justified: he thought that by appearing right through the end of it, it would make it a little less Varda, and he would be the focus, which he did consider unfair). The crew, then, decided to not tell Varda about it, wishing to capture her "authentic" expression about it. Godard did never wish to be cruel or attack Varda by any means, and if there's fault to somenone, it relies on the crew who decided to not tell a 89 years old woman and make her suffer in front of the camera just because they wished for "authenticity"

To be fair, and Agnès said so a couple years later, it made for a better movie that Jean-Luc acted like such an asshole here. Dramatically his actions spawned a very emotional scene, even if it hurts as heck seeing the sweet treasure Agnès Varda being hurt to tears. 😢 So since Varda's documentary film became stronger, one could argue that she had the last laugh. She went on to reveive an Oscar nomination for best documentary for this. Godard never received an Oscar nomination, although both him and Agnès were honored with a Lifetime Achievement Oscars.

@gabrielantonio3418

9 ай бұрын

i'm sure it devastated him to not get that oscar nom...

Maybe he was on the Canne.

This is hilarious...I treat my dear ones like that sometimes...when they look at words as the only proof of a relationship...and not the person...as if I am obliged to be their best friend and take care of them...as if they are weak...and I am brave...I am weak too...just like them...

strangely enough, J.R. kind of looks like Jean-luc Godard in the early 60's with his sun glasses

@thehouseinthemiddle6830

Жыл бұрын

In my opinion, that's exactly one of the aspects that makes this movie so special.

@vraikorrigan

Жыл бұрын

JR is an impostor from head to toe.

Varda>>> Godard I just think he’s just a sexist pretentious film bro, Varda is the real deal, human, empathic and cheerful with a real perspective on human emotions and their stories

someone can explain to me what happened?

@learningwithharry4996

2 жыл бұрын

It is from the film Faces Places. They visit Godard at the end.

@jackmclean4120

2 жыл бұрын

The woman is a documentary filmmaker called Agnes Varda and the guy is a street artist named JR (He's never revealed his real identity in public). This is the climax of the film, which is also made by Varda, as she and JR go to visit French filmmaker Jean-Luc Godard, whom Varda knows personally. For whatever reason, Godard refuses to come out, and JR shows Varda his face off screen to try and comfort her.

@plserino

2 жыл бұрын

@@jackmclean4120 also the message on the window is the exact same message that he left her when her husband had passed away, which adds another layer to all this and shouldn’t be left out

i have no idea what's going on

@horustv7744

2 жыл бұрын

Me neither and funny enough, I’m a french.

Godard was a halfwit, the Tarantino of art films.

@AbrasiousProductions

4 ай бұрын

at least Tarantino's films are entertaining

Godard est le plus grand.

Sweetheart and also a legend, she still let him the bakery she brought him

Contexts are important. JLG and Varda had been friends for over 60 years at this point. Everyone who knows JLG knows that he has, for his entire life, communicated aphoristically and, here, to Varda, cryptically, yet with a great deal of particularity to and for her. Notice that Varda has zero difficulty interpreting what Godard had conveyed. The reference to the restaurant “could” be a complex of emotions, positions, memories, the constellation of their friendship precisely etched on that glass. However, at the same time, Varda and her friend are clearly making a doc [from which this clip was pulled] and therefore trying to compel JLG take part in it. He doesn’t owe that to her or anyone, just as no viewer owes it to be a part of someone else’s enterprise if they choose to decline. Varda knows this and she is playing for the camera. She didn’t have to include this footage. One has to ask, Why, then, did she and co-director choose to use it? Her personal friendship with Godard could have been conducted on the phone or, perhaps, privately in person, off camera. Varda went out not only to buy a brioche but a permanent marker. In this context, for 5 Euros Varda had a scene.

@drparnassus2867

2 жыл бұрын

Not quite: Godard agreed to meet up with her then stood her up. I think it's worth remembering that in the 1970s he offended Francois Truffaut with a similarly cryptic message... then after Truffaut died, said he regretted their rift and paid tribute to his old friend... then, with Varda, he made the same mistake all over again. Keeping journalists at arm's length with aphorisms and cryptic utterances (to maintain your privacy, or perpetuate a mystique around yourself, or whatever) is one thing, but doing it with your oldest friends is another.

@leoquesto9183

2 жыл бұрын

@@drparnassus2867 All that is clear is that Godard expected her arrival, hence the prepared message - yet, meet with her, not necessarily her camera. That’s the point here. Truffaut doesn’t belong to this discussion. Conflation aside, Godard, who’s not only active but vigorous at 91 in Rolle, remains averse to human commodification - recall that across all periods of his work, prostitution is a primary motif - and this could not have been lost on Varda. Point still stands: she was trying to capitalize on their friendship. Even in his absence, she did. The scene is disingenuous and its existence is curious.

@JC-to5by

Жыл бұрын

If he didn't want to be on camera, he could have done an adult thing and tell her that over a telephone, e-mail or through any form of correspondence. But no pretentious loser made her travel from France to Switzerland only to leave her with a six word note on a glass window ...

@leoquesto9183

Жыл бұрын

Minor effort may reveal a more nuanced grasp of the scene and its parts. My initial post addresses your assumptions. Primary is the guided, implicit assumption that Varda is not a manipulator in the scene she constructed. How odd. Consider how films are built. Fallacies such as ad hominem attacks, like the video’s title and your repetition of it here, are designed to precondition perception. Hence, the animus in all these responses correspondingly follows in step with AV’s message of being a victim of JLG’s mistreatment instead of inviting greater scrutiny. Why is this problematic?

@EmlynBoyle

Жыл бұрын

Actually, he had agreed to meet her on camera? The fact that he then deliberately didn't, shows the context of him being a arrogant loser.

Agnes can now slap him in the face

@charolastral

Жыл бұрын

That cant be possible because Agnes went to the heaven and godard went to hell

من اروع الوثائقيات اللتي شاهدتها، لو كان غودار موجود ويعلم بقدوم فاردا ، سوف اقول هذا غرور وحماقة منه.

Godard n’a jamais été un loser prétentieux, et il n,avait peut-être pas envie de rencontrer JR après tout. Il semblait parfois assez dépressif.

RIP GODARD

What movie/documentary is this from?

@jnw1789

Жыл бұрын

Visages, villages (2017)

Godard definitely earned the right to be a pretentious loser. But everyone would rather be friends with Agnes and it's always been that way.

@dtar3844

2 жыл бұрын

Why would anyone want to earn the right to be a loser lol what a silly thing to say that’s not a thing to aspire to and any level of success doesn’t allow someone to be a dick

@keyser9537

2 жыл бұрын

Lol how did he earn the right to treat his friends like shit? He is a shitty person, there's no excuse for that, no matter his level of genius.

@sewagedump

2 жыл бұрын

Who cares

@dontlookspins

2 жыл бұрын

@@sewagedump ...I Care Because You Do

@CaecusYT

2 жыл бұрын

@@sewagedump I really do wonder why you care so much? I've seen you a lot in this comment section and you seem really irritated on people not liking godard.

Como disse um sábio certa vez:se Deus levou Godard para o céu,ele fez um grande favor ao diabo

Não pareceu uma ofensa e sim uma homenagem e lembrança melancólica de algo que acabou e ficou no passado.

@astropgn

11 ай бұрын

Nossa, para mim foi uma ofensa, imaturidade e desumanização. Coitada de velhinha. Foram amigos e foi tratada como lixo

2 ай бұрын

​@@astropgn Godard não é o tipo de pessoa que você vai visitar pra tomar chá à tarde e falar do passado. Ele esteve sempre pensando no agora e no futuro.

@astropgn

2 ай бұрын

Ah, eu acho que esse seu ponto é interessante, e pode até ser verdade. Mas ter filosofia progressista não dá a ninguém o direito de ser cuzão com as pessoas que fizeram parte da sua vida. Ainda mais as do seu círculo de amizade. Antes de Godard ser Godard, ele era um ser humano, assim como ela e assim como nós.

Godard seems more to be of a privileged life and refuses to see the world as Agnes saw it.

@deedledave9826

2 жыл бұрын

Isn't that the case with so many artist revolutionaries? They claim to want to dismantle structures and yet end up being these little bourgeoisie men who end up preferring their comforts over legitimate change.

@alexjohnson9798

2 жыл бұрын

They're both wealthy white people from privileged backgrounds. Give me a break.

@ministry.ofsound

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexjohnson9798 bro its europe, being white doesn't make you special. dont know why you made it about race

@user-fy1vn1vh1b

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexjohnson9798 what's wrong with being white ?

@alexjohnson9798

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-fy1vn1vh1b Nothing.

Let’s not forget he also treated Anna Karina abysmally. Jean-Luc never grew up: kzread.info/dash/bejne/c3-K1NB6cpvIf5c.html

Godard was a real jerk. Varda even brought him fresh croissants. A lovely and memorable film however.

Maybe Jean-Luc Godard did not want to be filmed by JR, one of the most conformist artist. Being discreet does not mean necessarily being pretentious.

I dont understand what happened? What did Godard do?

@thesocialisthedgehog6320

2 жыл бұрын

The woman is a documentary filmmaker called Agnes Varda and the guy is a street artist named JR (He's never revealed his real identity in public). This is the climax of the film, which is also made by Varda, as she and JR go to visit French filmmaker Jean-Luc Godard, whom Varda knows personally. For whatever reason, Godard refuses to come out, and JR shows Varda his face off screen to try and comfort her. (I copied and pasted this from another comment, I haven't seen the documentary myself)

Why would Godard want to be part of this film, with JR showing up at his house, mimicking him and plastering Banksy Lite blowups all over the countryside? Godard is still making great films. JR is the pretentious hustler here.

@mumble_core491

2 жыл бұрын

Cuz varda

@natalies1624

2 жыл бұрын

pretty sure he invited them

@zxjacko

2 жыл бұрын

JR as in...? Jacques Rivette? Jacques Rivette rather obviously died before this was recorded (Varda mourns him in the video). Who is JR?

@eastwind3834

2 жыл бұрын

​@@zxjacko the dude next to Varda in the video lol.

@jakob8076

2 жыл бұрын

@@zxjacko The man with her is JR, and she doesn't mourn Rivette, she is mourning Jacques Demy, her late husband

Et oui dans toute chose il y a un négatif est un positif

They went to Godard's house with a camera, knowing he is avoiding for years any media feature. They are not respecting his privacy, he is an old man and has his own right to decide who and when he might let in. He still left a message with some poetic memories, which was totally unappreciated, and it's quite interesting they had a sharpie ready to reply... who doesn't have in ready in the bag, in case you might have to write on glass?

@Kraisedion

2 жыл бұрын

He had actually agreed to speak with them, and he had also changed the original meeting time and place so that they had to sleep in the town. Varda also said she had brought her children with her for this specific meeting (not seen on camera) - though I will say that Godard's actions certainly elevated the film.

@pattybepatty

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kraisedion thanks for the background story. Maybe he had a second guess... he wanted to be remembered as he was. He even refused to go receive the Oscar for his career! Unpredictable, still genius AND person who deserves some respect.

@kencur9690

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kraisedion that gives some context. Still, do you have experience with old people? Changing their mind every nanosecond is what they are great at!

@FreakMeat74

2 жыл бұрын

@@kencur9690 Lol yep it's true

@berenicethegirl

2 жыл бұрын

Just to clarify, it's not a sharpie or even a permanent marker. It's a very common felt tip pen here in France and she probably used it for autographs or to take notes

She left a beautiful answer. Give me your pencil is ironic. She's mocking him and his references by this reference to an old popular french song, which is beautiful and poetic (and also has a hidden sexual meaning, by the way, but it's surely not relevant here). The name of the man in the song is Pierrot, who is an archetypal figure of the sad clown, and a reference to Pierrot le fou. Varda replaces Pierrot by Jacquot. Then she is mocking his memory, which is actually either resentment, rancour. And she adresses it to the artist JLG, not to Jean-Luc, because she is really kind.

what's even going on in this video?

The problem here is not. Agnes is JR. Mr. Godot doesn’t want to have nothing to do with that guy. I heard him say that he’s one of the worst fake artist of this generation JR he’s a culture vulture

Peut-être qu’il est un vieux monsieur pudique qui vit dans ses souvenirs . Vous rendez-vous compte à son âge ce que représente d’accueillir une équipe de tournage pour parler du passé ? La pudeur … peut aussi être respectable .

@lerecklessbadger2411

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe he is a modest old gentleman who lives in his memories. Do you realize at his age what it means to host a film crew to talk about the past? Modesty … can also be respectable. Ps: I must add, he could have had a bad day… For sure he was keeping in touch with A.Varda as she brought him his favorite cake from the nearby bakery ! Anyway, not my business to comment the difficulty of the old man

@clitidas4412

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for translation 😘

@lerecklessbadger2411

2 жыл бұрын

@@clitidas4412 Your welcome!! Google translated it for us. Being a french speaker i just made sure it was nickel top chrome !

@odalissk

2 жыл бұрын

@@lerecklessbadger2411 juste nickel chrome ;-)

@pattybepatty

2 жыл бұрын

You are totally right... you don't work and balance all your life with poetry and images, just to end up selling your life and privacy in a reality show style like some Kardashian. The sentence on the window is a very poetic memory of happy times to cherish.

there is a restaurant called la ville de douarnenez? didn't know DZ was that famous

godard refuses to be exploited by hack taking advantage of an elderly woman.

I admire both of them. They are both icons of the cinema.

Like from Jimmy Neutron?

What's the name of this doc?

Human all too human.

I don't see anything mean and pretentious in the initial note when Demy passed! JLG shared basically "an image with words", a moment/souvenir of the trio in the restaurant. He was an artist creating images, why Agnes Varda found it pretentious?!

Dearest Agnes...

I don't get why you all think this is pretentious, Godard is just mean.

godard could never have made something a tenth as good as Le Bonheur hope he stays mad

@user-qt5xh9mt7x

2 жыл бұрын

cope and seethe

@andreab.6738

2 жыл бұрын

hahaha you're delusional, breathless, pierrot le fou, in praise of love, the image book, prenom carmen, alphaville, la chinoise, passion, hail mary, helas pour moi, numero deux, nuovelle vague... just mentioning some godard kino better than your favourites' best film

@eka_nin

2 жыл бұрын

@@andreab.6738 “kino” 🤓

@andreab.6738

2 жыл бұрын

@@eka_nin seethe more

@duetforherbivores

Жыл бұрын

@@eka_nin lmao 😅

I would like to see how all of you behave when you're almost 90.

@EyeLean5280

2 жыл бұрын

Doesn't matter, it's no excuse. If you're nasty at 90, people will dislike you. A good thing for us all to keep in mind.

@restinpeaceadameget9198

2 жыл бұрын

@@EyeLean5280 How the fuck is this nasty? wtf.... you people are so bizarre. It's like if Morgan Freeman died tomorrow and we left a note near his grave referencing some movie he considered his best work, would that also be "nasty and hurtful and pretentious?" is it the context of him leaving it on her window? maybe he couldn't bring himself to speak about his death any other way then. edit: then again the kinds of people commenting on this atm are twitter users who use "cope and seethe" so probably a bunch of pretentious know it all kids anyway. Aaaand I don't care anymore

@moribucci

Жыл бұрын

Agnès Varda was 2.5 years older than him. Don't try to excuse him for his age.

Godard est un sale type qui depuis des années fait des films que personne ne regarde tout en prenant l’argent de diverses subventions…

Is it inappropriate to say RIP Jean Luc-Godard?

@olibats79

Жыл бұрын

It's was him a son of a bitch.

@ritahorvath8207

Жыл бұрын

No . ♡ we are all going to be very tired some day, with an old body, which will be good to leave . . . 🕊

A dog will always be a dog. No matter what tricks you teach him.

JR is such a hipster weirdo. I'm sorry, but the guy seems a bit lame to me, like he is just chasing publicity.

@mk2k10

Жыл бұрын

Yeah me too. Never liked his work, never liked his poseur persona. I suspect he's the reason JLG kept his door shut.

@EmlynBoyle

Жыл бұрын

Wow, well considering what Godard was, that's a very ironic comment. And JR was there supporting his friend Agnes--you do know the film is about them? Instead of sad, little Jean-Luc.

I wouldn't open up the door to my house if that bafoon JR showed up either! Good on you JLG!

@EmlynBoyle

Жыл бұрын

What's a bafoon then? Oh and yawn, Godard was a creep.

This video popped up in my recommended box and left me confused and perplex despite all the explanations found in the comments.

@nekozombie

2 жыл бұрын

I barely understand what this is

Rosalie Varda reveals the truth: Production team of her mother's film KNEW Godard would not receive Agnès! Varda found out about this later, and even so, she kept insulting Godard in the film! Much is said, among the cinephile public (or not so much...), about a scene from the film 'Visages, Villages' (2017), by Agnès Varda, in which the filmmaker and director of the film goes to Godard's house ( in Rolle, a small town in Switzerland), to meet him. And it is clear that the scene of the reunion of these two great names of French and world cinema would be present in the film. However, when Varda arrives at the scene, she sees a message from Godard saying that he would not receive her. Hence, the filmmaker is outraged and offends Godard, calling him a 'dirty rat'. This fact, shown in Varda's penultimate film, has been widely used by the so-called 'haters' of Godard, that is, by people who hate him, to attack the filmmaker on social networks, and many of them even use low expressions level (swear words) to refer to the same. However, from now on these people will have to change their posture, unless they are not ashamed to recognize that they were wrong. I say this because Rosalie Varda, who is the daughter of Agnés Varda and Jacques Demy, another French filmmaker who was very close to Godard and the other 'Young Turks' (Truffaut, Chabrol, Rivette, Rohmer), revealed the whole story. Note: Agnés Varda and Jacques Demy were married in 1962 and lived together until his death, which occurred in October 1990. I just read a text, which was published on the website 'El Español' on 21/09/2022 and which was written by Carlos Riviero. And in this text it is revealed that the production team of 'Visages, Villages' (2017), the film in which we see this controversial scene, knew that Godard would NOT attend the meeting. However, the film's production team decided not to inform Agnès Varda of this fact, as they wanted to record the filmmaker's angry and irritated reaction when she discovered that Godard was not going to show up to receive her. With this, we see Agnès insulting Godard, calling him a 'dirty rat'. In addition, another important piece of information about the event is that, later, Agnés Varda herself was informed by her daughter that they all knew that Godard had warned her that she would not receive Varda. And yet, they decided, with Agnes' own approval, to keep the scene in which the filmmaker offended Godard. This decision by Varda is highly questionable and can indeed be heavily criticized and considered dishonest. After all, Varda maintained, in the film, against Godard, an offense he did not deserve. It would have been much more honest and correct for her to explain everything that had happened, so that those who saw the film would know the full truth, namely that her production team (which included her daughter , Rosalie) who hid the correct information from her, namely that Godard had already warned them that he would not receive Varda. But as she did not learn the truth, then Varda went to Godard's house, she was not received, she was revolted and offended him. However, maintaining the offense after learning that the incident was not Godard's fault, but his production team's fault, is something ethically unacceptable. Agnès Varda had an obligation to inform everyone about what had really happened, but she did not. Rosalie herself had this to say about what happened: “I really think it was a very generous act on his part. And that's what my mother came to understand. Jean-Luc knew that if he appeared in the last sequence of the film, he would steal the entire film from her. It would go from being my mother's last film to becoming Godard's last appearance." In his text, Carlos Riviero wrote the following: "In the last few bars of Faces and Places (2017), the camera captures the anger and sadness of the aging Varda as she reads the encrypted message that Godard left written on the window of her house, where he supposedly arranged with her to film an epic reunion. He ruined the ending of the movie. Probably from her last film, as it was if we do not count the anthological film, made from pre-existing images, 'Varda de Agnès' (2020). Hurt and confused in front of the filmmaker's house, Agnès tells the camera that she knows Godard well, that she loves him, "but he's a rat". Years later, I had the opportunity to talk at length about this mysterious scene with Rosalie Varda, Agnès' daughter and producer of his latest films, including 'Faces and Places'. In the course of my interrogation, she implied that the production team already knew that Godard was not going to appear, that he had left them out, but they had not told Agnès. When the cameras rolled, she was convinced Godard would be there. It wasn't an easy decision to make, but they wanted to capture his natural reaction, which was to call him a "rat". Rosalie later discussed this with her mother on several occasions because she had very mixed feelings about the scene, although she decided to leave it in the final cut. Agnès, who died almost two years after that filming, ended up understanding what her old friend was doing, or so she thought. “I really think it was a very generous act on his part. And that's what my mother came to understand. Jean-Luc knew that if he appeared in the last sequence of the film, he would steal the entire film from her. It would go from being my mother's last film to becoming Godard's last appearance." Rosalie Varda Interview - Godard sent a gift to the family when Agnès Varda passed away! In addition, Rosalie Varda revealed, in an interview with the 'Indie Wire' website, published in September 2019, that Godard sent a special gift to Varda's family when she passed away. In the interview, Rosalie stated the following: "He sent me a sort of collage of photos of Agnés," said Rosalie Varda, who produced "Faces/Places." "It was something special. It's a secret. But he sent me something nice. I think he cared a lot about Agnés . He's seen all her movies." Links: Text by Carlos Riviero: www.elespanol.com/el-cultural/blogs/otras_pantallas/20220921/partir-godard-mundo-entero/704799517_12.html Interview with Rosalie Varda: www.indiewire.com/2019/09/agnes-varda-daughter-rosalie-interview-1202171080/