And God so loved the world that he promised to send his only begotten son back to Earth and throw billions of people into a lake of fire. There’s no better example of Christian love.

@-D-I-V-A-

Ай бұрын

Heaven is living with GOD for Eternity! And Hell is you living separated from GOD for your Eternity... If you don't want to spend Eternity with GOD, He will never Force or Drag you to be stuck with Him! Jesus respects ur Free Will Choice! SO LET ME ASK YA! WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEND ALL OF YOUR ETERNITY WITH GOD OR NOT? *MAKE UR CHOICE!*

@jaclo3112

Ай бұрын

​@@-D-I-V-A-except jesus DOESN'T respect anyone's free will, especially if you have nobinteresr in going to heaven or hell. The choice is that of two evils, be in heaven with a psychopathic and morallyndepraved God....or he will force you to burn for eternity against your will. That's Mafia coercion shite.

@-D-I-V-A-

Ай бұрын

​@@jaclo3112 But you think it's Fake, right? So why do u care?

@-D-I-V-A-

Ай бұрын

​@@jaclo3112God gave you the GIFT of possessing an Eternal Soul... So you can only spend Eternity with God or separated from God! It's only 2 choices...

@crashoverride2345

Ай бұрын

​@@-D-I-V-A-Your interpretation of heaven and hell are subjective and there are many denominations that dont agree with your view, and they can support their position with scripture. Why should people care about your interpretation of an old book? And what evidence can you provide to support your position? What evidence do you have for your god?

The second someone says animals have no souls they've defeated their own argument.

@sonja4164

Ай бұрын

Exactly 💯

@noracola5285

Ай бұрын

The second someone says "souls" they've defeated their own worldview.

@JimCastleberry

Ай бұрын

LOL. A soul = human spirit. Good grief Josh. You boys are clueless.

@nealrobels4050

Ай бұрын

Speaking of souls do you believe the immaterial part of you can control the physical part of you. Also we know the physical body dies what about the non-physical the immaterial part of you, do you believe that also dies along with the body and if so why .

@JimCastleberry

Ай бұрын

@@noracola5285 How? Oh wait, don't bother with another lie. You were just lying for the team.

Caller: "The soul is personality." My cat has personality. Does it have a soul? "...Er...can we talk about something else, please?"

@brucebaker810

Ай бұрын

Your cat has catality.

@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2

Ай бұрын

​@@brucebaker810if you've ever owned a cat, it has "deity".

@brucebaker810

Ай бұрын

@@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2 or deityity?

@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2

Ай бұрын

@@brucebaker810 yeah, that one!

@SkepticallyQueer

Ай бұрын

Cats have souls... all the ones they've stolen over the years.

God is the ultimate source of love? I think "Joe" should ask Adam, Eve, Cain, Abraham's son, Lot's wife, the first born of Egypt, the Canaanites, the Perizzites, the Jebusites, Korah, Jonah, the residents of Sodom and Gomorrah, and Job about "god's love."

@dogwalker666

Ай бұрын

And the entire global population except for one family.

@barbiedahl

Ай бұрын

Sounds like their fairytale god is the TERMINAL source of love rather than the ultimate source.​@@dogwalker666

@Ghalaghor_McAllistor

Ай бұрын

Not to forget the daughter of Jephthah.

@Mkeusquealbby

Ай бұрын

Those 40 boys who insulted Elijah, the people who were collateral damage when 1 man accidentally touched the Ark of the Covenant, the people of Jericho

@nealrobels4050

Ай бұрын

​@@dogwalker666God gives life God takes life. If God is love and the creator of the moral conscience how can you know better than God what love is how could you know better than God what is or isn't morally just. Look at modern day Sodom and Gomorrah, the rainbow community. Look at how much destruction it's doing to society including to themselves. I find it interesting that atheist humanist in the west who hate Christianity choose to live under what Christmas created which is modern Western Civilization. Why isn't you atheist Communists have no coverage of your convictions and don't choose to live under a Godless Utopia like North Korea why do you choose to live under what Christians created if you hate Christianity so much. How stupid is it to try to turn the civilization that you choose to live under into the civilization you choose not to live under. Every atheistic humanist government without exception has been communist. It's killed more of its own citizens in the last century than all of the civilizations combined since written word and that doesn't even include the countlness forced abortions on women living under atheistic humanists China

God so loved the world that he drowned all the little children.

@letmebetheoned5648

25 күн бұрын

And continues to allow children to starve to death. Allows children to be slaughtered in school. Allows children and women to be SA’d. If that’s love, these crazy bybull thumpers can keep their God’s psychopathic murderous love.

@brucebaker810

8 күн бұрын

For God so loved the world that he drowned all of them, tortures most of them, and never, ever even says hi. That's one profound, but Mysterious, affection.

God: I love you I love you so much I love you so much that if you don't love me back, I'll punish you FOREVER!!!

@-D-I-V-A-

Ай бұрын

Heaven is living with GOD for Eternity! And Hell is you living separated from GOD for your Eternity... If you don't want to spend Eternity with GOD, He will never Force or Drag you to be stuck with Him! Jesus respects ur Free Will Choice! SO LET ME ASK YA! WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEND ALL OF YOUR ETERNITY WITH GOD OR NOT? *MAKE UR CHOICE!*

@ookekklibarianbornagain6708

Ай бұрын

@@-D-I-V-A- Reported for Unwanted commercial content or spam.

@DenisK21

Ай бұрын

@@-D-I-V-A- If he existed, why would I WANT to spend eternity with a genocidal narcissist who sacrificed himself to himself to appease himself?

@Gwaithmir

Ай бұрын

@@DenisK21 I agree. That narcissistic tyrant would probably send you to hell anyway just to see that look of betrayal on your face.

@scamchan

Ай бұрын

@@-D-I-V-A- SIN exists because GOD didn't prevent it. GOD didnt love us enough to prevent sin and allows Satan to do evil.

If their psycopathic god is the source of love, Does that mean love didn't exist before 2000 years ago 😂

@PauloBarreto15041964

Ай бұрын

Or even 6000 if you consider the father wich is the same.😛

@dogwalker666

Ай бұрын

@@PauloBarreto15041964 That's just the myth, Christians have only existed for less than 2000 years, And that book is mostly plagiarised. We know morals existed long before, We know Neanderthals cared for the sick and injured.

@MrCanis4

25 күн бұрын

And in the rest of the world.

@dogwalker666

25 күн бұрын

@@MrCanis4 indeed.

There is no greater hate then religious Love...

@davidrexford586

Ай бұрын

Religious love is a self centered love where one person demands you lovingly know God from himself and not yourself going to God yourself.

@forcedtohaveahandle

Ай бұрын

Thanks for not just narrowing it down to the christian cult!

God gave us smallpox, obviously he is the ultimate source of love!

@stevewhite6861

Ай бұрын

Not to mention all the other deadly diseases that people have died horribly from, like cancer and motor neurone disease, both my parents died of cancer and my kid brother died of MND all very young, another kid brother also died of a disease that children get and easily recover from but adults rarely survive, I'm not sure of the name of that one.

@jasonantigua6825

Ай бұрын

That’s with all the natural disasters thrown in too!

@jasonantigua6825

Ай бұрын

And the free will he gave people! Then the horrible things that resulted from that! And him knowing what they would do too! It’s mind boggling.

@-D-I-V-A-

Ай бұрын

Y'all don't believe in God, right? So when natural disasters and Cancer happen to people... That's just how it is! Humans, we are born and then we die... You believe there is No God! *EVERYTHING ONLY JUST IS!*

@lh1673

Ай бұрын

Oh let’s not forget POISONS in created living things. So in Garden of Eden NO Poisons, but Ultimate Source of Love decided to do chemistry after expelled first couple from Eden and add POISONS to creatures so it can kill other living things😮

And the Lord, being the "ultimate source of love," drowned the world, killing everyone and everything on it except for a drunk and his family... because he loved them.🙄 Sounds more like the TERMINAL source of love than the ultimate one.

@jacksimpson-rogers1069

Ай бұрын

Ah, but we who no longer think the Earth is Flat, know that it couldn't have happened. The entire mass of the atmosphere, known barometrically, is less than a Flood that'd raise the oceans 40 feet. It's pretty near certainty that Genesis is NOT the word of the Creator !

@davidrexford586

Ай бұрын

@@jacksimpson-rogers1069 no one really knows what happened because none alive were there to see any of it. But interesting enough sediment from other parts of the world became parts of other countries parts thousands of miles away from each other. Believe it or not.

@user-ff4lr2jj5r

Ай бұрын

Source?

@davidrexford586

Ай бұрын

@@user-ff4lr2jj5rwho are you talking to?

@andrzejsawicki3770

Ай бұрын

Don in one episode said that the Christian God is an invisible mass murderer. I can't argue with that.

A silver back gorilla will sacrifice himself to protect his family.

@franciscosustek7249

Ай бұрын

Better "christian" than most...

@bobgreenfield9158

Ай бұрын

If he is dead, he can't stop the danger.

@hera9191

29 күн бұрын

​@@bobgreenfield9158if attacker dies also

"Let me ask you if you can think of a greater love, but you're not allowed to provide an example of a greater love."

How you guys can deal with this every week , I don't know.. I hate talking religion to religious people. They just go nutty and it freaks me out that I thought they were normal until they started talking about their religion.

@dyanaprajna4556

Ай бұрын

I used to enjoy it, until I realized that not only do they not listen to a word said that goes against their beliefs, but their willingness to be intentionally ignorant, seeing it as a virtue.

@albaniahenry-franklin2829

Ай бұрын

100% agree!

@sirbarryvee-eight6485

Ай бұрын

I used to look at it the same why I looked at my atheism - that is, it is a position on one single issue, being the belief in a deity. Outside of that, I do a lot stuff that theists do, outdoor sports, tinker with muscle cars, enjoy family time etc. Outside of theism, theists are just like me. Except... ...for people like Jim "I'd still be a virgin if it wasn't for the prison sex" Castleberry. That dude is nuttier than a peanut butter factory and I'm sure has no life or hobbies outside of theism and ankle bracelet trackers.

The mental gymnastics performed by theists never cease to amaze me. Even when you walk them through a flaw in their doctrine, their brains seem incapable of acknowledging the glaringly obvious right in front of them. Joe pulled out of every apologetic in his arsonal and then when backed into a corner he resorted to 'what about' bullshit which always makes me audibly groan. It's sooooooo annoying.

Every caller should have the same answer….you believe a story you were told, that’s it. No evidence or proof, just a story.

It is amazing how people have such drive to fight for their ignorance and his confused comfort.

Never marry a tennis player; love means nothing to them.

@Wilhelm-100TheTechnoAdmiral

Ай бұрын

Ha!

@ALTDOK667

Ай бұрын

Lol!

@dogwalker666

Ай бұрын

Groan 🤦🏻‍♂️

@forcedtohaveahandle

Ай бұрын

?

@just-a-person2023

29 күн бұрын

excellent. i love it!

Near death experience is not a death experience, it's in the name, it's near, you're alive, your consciousness or whatever is left of it is still there being processed by your brain.

@dogwalker666

Ай бұрын

Yeah it's just oxygen starvation to the brain.

@tonyclements1147

Ай бұрын

And otherwise healthy people can have one or more facets of an “NDE” without being near death at all, they can even replicate them in laboratory settings with electrical stimulation to certain areas of the brain, and ketamine.

Members of my family get all the love we need from within our family and from close friends. We have no need for “the love” of a hate filled, intolerant and malevolent, imaginary sky fairy.

@-D-I-V-A-

Ай бұрын

REPENT OF ALL YOUR SINS & TRUST JESUS CHRIST TODAY!

@anushkasekkingstad1300

Ай бұрын

@@-D-I-V-A- I closely follow the laws of my nation. Sin isn’t mentioned anywhere in our statutes, far less defined. I have no idea what a sin might be but Norwegian law naturally prevails here, giving me no reason to change anything I do. Even if I wanted to, I’d have no idea how to “repent”. Only a small percentage of our population, including my family and I, believes that your christ even exists. The idea of trusting someone I don’t know, requires more gullibility than I could muster.

@ookekklibarianbornagain6708

Ай бұрын

@@-D-I-V-A- Reported for Unwanted commercial content or spam.

@joshsheridan9511

Ай бұрын

​@@-D-I-V-A-nothing to repent for, no one to repent to and sin is a fictional disease invented to sell you an imaginary cure

@craigkelly4278

Ай бұрын

​@@ookekklibarianbornagain6708 do you actually report any of these comments or is this a running joke

The good news is that god does not exist and never has

@nealrobels4050

Ай бұрын

Can you prove it. Can you prove the origins of Life came into existence without creation without God. If so please do so, if it's what you believe you should know why you believe it

@dyanaprajna4556

Ай бұрын

@@nealrobels4050 never passed a science class, huh?

@nealrobels4050

Ай бұрын

@@dyanaprajna4556ad homonym responses are a sign of intellectual frustration ,what does whether or not I ever passed a science class have to do with your claim to the belief in the supernatural that the origins of Life came into existence without life without an intelligent source AKA that God doesn't exist.. Just say you don't know why you believe in the supernatural that the origins of Life came into existence without creation without God.

@Gankstomper

Ай бұрын

@@nealrobels4050 He believes it's not real because there's no evidence for it being real. It's really that simple. Burden of proof is not on him to prove it's not real.

@Finckelstein

Ай бұрын

@@nealrobels4050 The fact that you can't explain something doesn't mean "magic" is the correct answer. Also, we do have working hypotheses on how life started. Many people are researching it as we speak. If you're not just here for cheap gotchas, you could look up abiogenesis. Anyway, do you have a hypothesis on how your god created life? Apart from magic? And yes, it IS intellectual frustrating to see people like you with a lack of understanding for even basic scientific principles trying to fumble your way into a gotcha about how we can't prove that a magic man beyond space and time created everyting. Your whole belief system is so utterly infantile I don't for the life of mine understand how society takes it seriously. Then I remember that your lot is in the majority and despair a little. Thankfully we're making progress and your numbers are going down by the day.

Passages that show how much God really ‘loves’ us 🤮 1 Thessalonians 5: 1-4 Deuteronomy 23: 1-2 Ephesians 6: 5 Exodus 12: 29 Exodus 21: 7 Genesis 6: 17 Luke 14: 26 Matthew 5: 22 Matthew 10: 34-36 Numbers 4: 27 Numbers 31: 1-54 Proverbs 13: 24 Psalms 137: 9 Titus 2: 9

From biblical literature specifically, Isaiah 45:7 God is also the ultimate source of Evil.

I absolutely love Don's jabs. Makes me giggle.

😂😂😂😂 this is insane " the ultimate source of love "

For that concept of a god to exist, it would ultimately be the source of everything in existence. Good, bad, or indifferent. To say it's the source of love, but not say it's the source of hate, is contradictory.

It's always nice when a religious caller allows that non-religious people can be (somehow, in his mind) loving and honest.

Tracy's on fire in this episode. Awesome to watch! Poor guy didn't have a chance.

I had two sets of pet rants and they have what humans would call a "personality". They are no all carbon copies all acting the same. I have had over a dozen dogs in my life and no two were the same. Even when I worked at a dairy farm for a few weeks on cow would push all the other cows away so I could pet her head. One always wanted to lick my face. None of this is proof for an afterlife it just means all living things at a higher level have feeling and emotions. I don't think bacteria does however.

In total ignorance of science and logic, this guy has invented himself a thing for some reason.

Remember Xtians, god loves you so much, he created hell, just in case you don't love him back. . LOLZ

another contestant for the nobel prize in neurochemistry provided the committee changes the criteria to magic!

"God Is The Ultimate Source Of Love?!" and then he drowned everything and everyone at a certain moment.

“Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man living in the sky who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time! BUT HE LOVES YOU! He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money!” -- George Carlin

Sometimes I wonder if people like Joe have moments of objective clarity, where something in their head goes, "wait a minute, does what I believe really make sense?" What happens then? Because we know they don't follow up on thoughts like that, otherwise they'd probably no longer be a theist. Fascinating.

One of my favorite episodes. But it seems like there are too many cooks in the kitchen this time. Poor Don may as well have gone to get a cup of coffee.😊

What was god smoking when he invented the Bot-fly?

To paraphrase Uncle Jed, somebody needs to have a long talk with that boy.

God is also the ultimate source of hate 😡

God needs to repent.

Elephants will huddle around a member that’s dying or dead. Other elephants will see this a join the group. They usually raise their trunks and cry out in distress. Elephants recognize what death is, will mourn and have a “funeral” for the deceased elephant, regardless if it’s a relative.

Gonna take a sentimental journey Gonna set my heart at ease Gonna take a sentimental journey To renew old memories of when we were free from lettered tyranny

The fact that this guy says this about brain function shows that this guy has never thought a single thought

🎵Monkey eats bananas That he stole from your house Eats bananas That he stole from your house

15:42 “…no greater love than laying down your life for a loved one.” The caller also added the soldier jumping on the grenade to save the fellow soldiers. - This is not the greatest love, that could be just a reflex action for the greater good. He might be saving people who are complete strangers to him. The greatest love is arguably the person who cares for another for a very extended time period. That takes daily commitment after constant inflection of whether to do it day after day, regardless of the impact on your life.

One of the reasons why humans, especially mothers feel so much "love" towards their young, is that human babies are one of the most useless and work-demanding of all nature, so the prevalence of loads of oxitocyn and other hormones binding them to their babies secured their survival and the reproduction of those with the most "love". In nature you will find that mammals tend to show more "motherly love", as the babies depend on the mothers for everything, and in mammals or other animals that produce fewer young are usually the ones with the most protective and present mothers or parents. It's not really metaphysical, it's just survival.

Congratulations on 413k subscribers AXP 🎉🥳🎉

Ok as a rat lover I've had several that would come to me when they would know I'm crying or depressed I've had 1 that would literally follow me everywhere for months until my friend got home because she knew I was that depressed ect

The idea that “laying down your life for another man is the greatest example of love” is ridiculous! It reads like military propaganda. The easy part of laying down your life for others is that it takes very little time & almost no follow through. A soldier throws their body on a grenade to save another, is a sacrifice that takes only a few seconds. Rather the greatest example of love in the universe is the instinctual love that new mothers have to protect their young. Not only will a new mother willingly fight to the death for their kids, they do the much harder sacrifice, which is to spend every day for half their lifetime caring & sacrificing for their families. There is no greater love than a good mom.

Great show! Love it.

The soldier analogy is flawed, He does not sacrifice himself because he loves his colleagues ... he does it because losing one is better (strategy) than losing many. It is numbers, not love.

Has anyone noticed that other programs like " Glenn Beck" will go off into a religious rant and out of no where they stop and try to sell you something? So so serious until it's commercial time and then you learn your dog food is not good for your dog and you need to switch for your dogs sake..? God gets put on hold for a dog food commercial..!

What is the spirit? -the soul What is the soul? - spiritual energy

@jimmythebold589

Ай бұрын

no

@sirbarryvee-eight6485

Ай бұрын

What is the spirit? -what spirit? What is the soul? - Something we wrongly attribute to consciousness.

This guy sounds like a defense attorney desperately trying to defend his clearly guilty client, so he's throwing everything at the wall hoping something will stick. And by "clearly guilty client" I mean "BS belief in the invisible magic man in the sky and his book of magic stories."

I love how they come up with a situation where his drivel falls apart, and he is just like, "no I mean in this one specific situation." I respect him so much because he gave up a blink of an eye in terms of his existence. There are many stories of self-sacrifice that predate the bible, especially the New Testament. Antigone and Alcestis come to mind.

Wolves have this thing that can happen to the pack. A single wolf has gotten stuck in a tar pit. Instead of leaving the individual to its fate, the pack will decimate itself teying to save its troubled member. Wolf after wolf will get stuck trying to pull the first one out yo then trying yo help the rest. This is not a good survival trade off nor is it a power play. They simply love the menbersbof their pack and will die trying yo save them

@Leith_Crowther

Ай бұрын

That empathy is a great survival trait. In other circumstances, it can lead to the pack saving their member in distress. The flaw in your scenario for the wolves wasn’t that they were empathetic, it’s that they didn’t have the knowledge and/or physical capabilities to save their buddy safely.

@cheapshot2842

Ай бұрын

@@Leith_Crowther That wasn't a flaw. Empathy doesn't require resourcefulness. Just because they fail, doesn't mean they lack empathy. And many other species leaves the troubled member behind. They die instead of leave behind. That's the evidence. Your model becomes unfalsifiable because you could claim simple survival instincts regardless of outcome. If the wolves left behind to die you'd argue evolutionary survival. If they succeeded you'd claim pack preservation. The fact that they die in a lost cause is an irrational, evolutionary suboptimal action that points to and supports an emotional investment.

@cheapshot2842

Ай бұрын

@@Leith_Crowther Empathy doesn't require resourcefulness. The didn't run after losing a second or third pack member. They stayed. This is also not a one off but happened many times.

@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2

Ай бұрын

​@@cheapshot2842 empathy and sharing is a BRILLIANT survival strategy. Just because there are occasions where it fails, doesn't change this. What you are claiming is like saying that because being able to run fast won't save you when you fall off a cliff, then it isn't evolutionarily beneficial for catching dinner. 🤦

@cheapshot2842

Ай бұрын

@@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2 That's not equivalent or even close to what I'm saying. I'm saying empathy exists within some social species that exists outside of the evolutionary survival instinct. I have provided evidence for such a claim and the claim is supported by science and those who study the phenomenon. Your rebuttal has been an equivocation fallacy followed by a strong "nu huh" argument.

So, sociopaths have no soul? As for the grenade example. Jesus pulled the pin on the grenade, jumped on it to save us all from his actions in the full knowledge that he would wake up a couple of days later none the worse for wear. That's not exactly a sacrifice.

I’ve never seen Don have more than 4-5 lines at any point. Would’ve loved him to be the host once in awhile instead of just one liners he can barely squeeze in!

It's my personal opinion. I couldn't wait to call and present this breaking news.

How many examples of greater love does the guy need? 😮 Also, is giving up a weekend really dying for his friends?

Poor Don was struggling on this call.

I have the greatest respect for those given the impossible task of reversing brainwashing.

@m0n0deferia

28 күн бұрын

It's not impossible. In fact, most of the show hosts were christians as well at some point.

Bible God is nothing but a narcissistic tyrant who clearly loves himself above all others. To claim that he's the ultimate source of love is complete bunk!

@BlarglemanTheSkeptic2

Ай бұрын

​@@jaflenbond7854 DERPwurst

just think about this. god is the ultimate source of love,right? but if you don't believe in him and love him he will send you to hell!!! god is NOT the ultimate source of love! he is more like the ultimate narcissist!!!

@SevenPr1me

Ай бұрын

@@jaflenbond7854hush.

@-D-I-V-A-

Ай бұрын

Heaven is living with GOD for Eternity! And Hell is you living separated from GOD for your Eternity... If you don't want to spend Eternity with GOD, He will never Force or Drag you to be stuck with Him! Jesus respects ur Free Will Choice! SO LET ME ASK YA! WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEND ALL OF YOUR ETERNITY WITH GOD OR NOT? *MAKE UR CHOICE!*

@SevenPr1me

Ай бұрын

@@-D-I-V-A- oh hush

@-D-I-V-A-

Ай бұрын

Very simple! God gave you the GIFT of possessing an Eternal Soul... So you can only spend Eternity with God or separated from God! It's only 2 choices...

@SevenPr1me

Ай бұрын

@@-D-I-V-A- nobody asked you

How can you possible have a logical conversation with someone that has trouble with logic?

God is the ultimate expression of self-love, if people yelling out his name means anything.

When someone agrees with everything you say whilst listening to nothing!!

In the gospels, Jesus knew in advance that Judas would betray him and that he would be killed. So he absolutely did it to himself, and if he's omniscient & omnipotent, there is no other possibility. It was the plan from day 1.

@anushkasekkingstad1300

Ай бұрын

One other possibility is that the story is a complete fiction.

@tonyclements1147

Ай бұрын

God’s all powerful, right? So, impregnating someone with Himself to live as a human, to self delete 33 years later for forgiveness of humanity’s shortcomings aka “sins” (that he *knew* of in advance because he ‘knew us before we were born’) sounds logical to believers? I guess just forgiving humanity wasn’t an option.

@billy9144

Ай бұрын

@@anushkasekkingstad1300 Yes, of course, that's the most likely option.

@anushkasekkingstad1300

Ай бұрын

@@billy9144 Of course it is.

@hayuseen6683

Ай бұрын

Or the part about omniscience omnipotence was made up by men, and god is as incompotent as a anyone

14:02 “If a monkey steals another monkey’s banana, he doesn’t think it’s ‘wrong’.” Really? Then why does the monkey specifically steal it when the owner isn’t looking? Or more importantly, why does the thief run away fast. The stealing monkey knows damn-well that that’s wrong. AND there’s repercussions to that wrong event, too, so the owner-monkey knew it was wronged, too.

This guy has obviously never even considered the possibility that someone might have a counter to his lofty pronouncements.

I don't think I've ever experienced capital-L love. I must have no soul.

Soul = the experience of being me (which supernaturalists believe has an intrinsic existence, independant of the body/brain)

It's like Sophie's Choice

@Hampton_Doubleday_Jr

Ай бұрын

Eh? How so?

@dinky6620

Ай бұрын

@Hampton_Doubleday_Jr Sophie had to choose between her 2 children which one dies. It drove her to suicide later. It the saddest most heartbreaking scene Merrill Street (sp?) ever played in a movie. They took only 1 shooting of it, too.

@Hampton_Doubleday_Jr

Ай бұрын

@@dinky6620 I'm familiar with the story - I just don't get the connection with this video, lol.

@dinky6620

Ай бұрын

@@Hampton_Doubleday_Jr it was mentioned about impossible situations of love where a mom has to choose between saving her child or someone else.

I have seen a movie of people who occupy territory shared with lions, and a man who can speak and with his tone and body language tell a lion that he must not steal the prey that he himself has just killed, and the lion retreats. These people do not routinely attack lions. This relationship can fail if strangers appear and act like lions' enemies. Does a lion have an immortal soul? What about a bull, or a bull elephant?

Don is like the Ten second comedy

What is soul and spirit? Alcohol and a music genre.

When I was a Christian, I thought I had a spiritual counterpart that was like me, but non-corporeal, ectoplasmic, That was what I equated with a soul. And also felt all animals had one too. When I died and after the world ended, I would be alive again, but not strictly corporeal, in heaven, and so would all my pets and I could play with them forever. Then, eventually, over many years of experience, I realized I couldn't believe in an all-loving God who cared about human beings, who prevented suffering, and so on. And then shortly after that I accepted that I would not live again in heaven and see people and pets I loved. That was, for me, the hardest thing to let go of.

@jimmythebold589

Ай бұрын

you know, christians don't all have the same eschatology. a lot of xtians seem to think life will be incorporeal in heaven, in spite of what revelation says. i knew a christian who didn't believe in a soul, and that when we die, we stay entirely dead until god resurrected us. i don't think any two christians believe in the same god or afterlife concept.

So smashing babies against Rocks is A God of Love??? See psalms 137:7-9 ultimate source of joy and Love I think not

What is the ultimate source of irritation?

Fight or Flee ...

So, the hosts are for the sake of arguing a god exists they debate the caller that you don't really need a god as a source of love because it's already innate and expressed in the animal world and in humans. It evolved just as we did.

How can a SUPER LOVE just leave earth and he himself goes back Up and continually watch people suffer and tell them to endure until I come back KNOWING he is Almighty like Superman😅,the Superman I know came down to rescue people any time from dangers! By the way Superman is fiction but he rescued people, ain’t this Supernatural Being who claims I’m ultimate love NONFICTION according to believers! And just left and watching chaos on earth!?😅

No no no, according to this book a Human taught God don’t kill good people or say please know what love is! The conversation between them continued until the number was 10😅even that Human begged this God not to be Hot with Anger during that conversation 😅

I don't understand how christians can really think that jesus was the first guy to say "Hey, let's all be nice to each other for a change!" I know lots of people are totally ignorant of history, but crap that's stupid. Thanos (as I hear) kills half of all life in the known universe and it's an inconceivable tragedy, god kills 99%+ of life in the (then) known universe and it's a cute children's story. And this is the source of all love.

Do you wanna know what would’ve been great? If they would’ve let him finish a freaking sentence.

Interesting, ultimate source of love, yea I can think of quite a few genocide maniacs that killed as many people and animals as possible for something they did. I think this guy needs a dictionary, he's read the wrong meaning for love, same amount of letters in kill and love but the similarities end there.

The guy obviously has no idea what real love is.

So, what is love?

Wouldn't it have made more sense for God to put himself in Hell forever? Wouldn't that actually be taking the punishment for our sins? And we all get to be in Heaven no matter what?

It's consciousness.

@hayuseen6683

Ай бұрын

Which stops when you sleep

it really seems ethically wrong to post clips from people who don't want to be associated with the ACA. these two left after getting treated very badly.

You want to know about Jesus? How would you like it if someone came up to you and said, “I love you, I really, really love you, but if you don’t love me back, I’m going to set you on fire. That’s Jesus. That’s not salvation, that’s extortion. And it’s definitely not love. It’s like a Mafia thug telling you to obey the boss or I’m going to break your kneecaps. If you can love that person, you have a twisted idea of love.

God is the ultimate source of imagination.

Caller believes in all powerful. all knowledgeable god - can't understand that god made SO many stupid choices!

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@Tessilla-ie4pn

Ай бұрын

I have never heard this argument put this way and some how I have been making one just like it. About the definition of soul, spirit, mind, and personality. To try to get to know people. I love the video. ❤

@Tessilla-ie4pn

Ай бұрын

Wow, yes there are potentially bigger sacrifices than death, like giving up yourself to take care of another like a mother or father, doing the things that no one is willing to do, Or being willing go to torture for the potential benefit of some of other, Like God could have broken his will the original system he made and sacrifice himself to Bear all eternal torture and given everyone knowledge about it, ingrained justice in nature, and made a way to direct that sacrifice so no being had to suffer.❤

@Tessilla-ie4pn

Ай бұрын

Why is it okay to have a password to not be tortured.❤

Rat heaven

Christ went thru life as god? Um, if Christ knew he was eternal, what exactly did he do that was extraordinary?

The hand grenade story is not nearly as good as that of the 'gay' man of September 11, fourth aircraft, who knew the religious terrorists were taking them to their deaths and they might as well fight back, foil the enemy, whether it kill them or not. A man who throws himself on a grenade that is going to kill him, in order that others be saved, merely needs that they be on his side.

religionist caller has heap-loads of intellectual truth seeking rigor. How could he not?

If Jesus was god , dying in one event for people’s salvation OR Stick around into old age and be a great teacher 🤷‍♂️ Number 2 helps more people , number 1 relies on untestable supernatural claims. Going out in a blaze of glory is dumb macho idea , a lifetime fighting for equality and civil rights would benefit society more. No one event is better than living to make the world better.

Love is a feeling an emotional feeling, which isn't quantifiably accurate, not like fear which can be triggered pretty easily, but love? fMRI can track brain regions for stimulus, how closely related is joy, or.... Awe, I'm sure love is evolutionary in its own way, keep the breeding of species although grudge sex may not include love, yet still produce offspring, so what if it doesn't rise to the occasion of love, maybe ...crush, does crush trigger stimulus like love, or a different region, point being, jealousy is not an emotion! How does one decipher what counts as emotion, the chemical factory of the brain, the hypothalamus releases the chain molecule triggers the fight or flight reaction, which gets the awareness levels piqued to save life, that's an evolutionary benefit, jealousy is not an evolutionary benefit so there's no molecular chemical chain dispensing jealousy into the bloodstream ergo, not emotion. Anger and suspicion, I don't know the proper mix of chemicals but whatever combo we've now labeled as jealousy, there's many feelings like love, jealousy, etc that are not an evolutionary benefit so many mislabeled emotions/feelings being conflated as biology, the soul, another unquantifiable thing, hijacked and used as control verbage, doesn't make it a part of reality