Thanks for not stopping after 5 hundred. This is one of the best videos I ever since.

That's insane, very impressive keep up the good work

Ran two of these on a cab 1600 at 1 ohm constant 14.5 volts. Ran it like that for almost 2 years. Subs are still good sitting in my garage

@FUCKDSS

5 жыл бұрын

KO Audio Midwest if they are the ev2 12s could I buy them from you I can't find them anywhwre

@koaudiomidwest9126

5 жыл бұрын

Ev3 bought them when they first came out.. ev3 is better with a bump out bottom plate. Sub cant bottom out mechanically

@Fiya_gamez

4 жыл бұрын

Sick.. in have 2 skar ddx12s. Thinking about these. Can they handle an Orion XTR 1500.1D?

@SeanOMatic

3 жыл бұрын

@@Fiya_gamez Easily.

I've got 2 of these on a RF Prime 1200.1D and I love them! Now you say they failed thermally and I was hoping you would have measured the temp after it let loose so we could see roughly where the failure threshold is . . .but 135° @ 750w after 5 minutes is impressive in and of itself for a $130 sub!! Keep up the good work!! 😉

@UnofficialAudio

5 жыл бұрын

The specific temperature for thermal failure is an entire other video that should be coming in the next few weeks.

That E12 took it like a champ!!! Very impressive!!! Props to you guys for all the awesome videos!!!!

That’s awesome you don’t see other speaker manufacturers doing this. Very cool 👍👍👍👍👍👍

Now that was a good video. Lotta information but you need to tell them about what I posted a few minutes earlier. I like that you smoked it we know the maximum it will do. I like that you cut it apart to show us what it looked like after. To me this is one of your better videos. And you didn’t spend that much money. You are to talk about beginners. This is a great start for a sub for beginners. Let people know where they’re at and the price points on everything always. You seemed a lot calmer and relaxed this morning. This was one of my favorite videos so far especially the smoke. People will watch this just to see that. You will get more hits when you start tearing stuff up. Everybody wants to know what the most is it will handle.

Been a Rockford man since is was 14 and I'm 43...untill I got introduced to these...best little monster ever...i love my E12d4

@joeybergeron376

5 жыл бұрын

What amp you running on yours

Amazing stuff dude I need to get me two of these ASAP . !

I ran two of the EV2's on a 2k and they took it like a champ.. never stinky besides the break in..I got them stinky once and then broke them in..for a cheap ass low power sub they are fine..

Yes I knew it was coming great job sundown

Sundown for the Win!!! Best car audio company I’ve dealt with. I have a ZV5 15 on 4K and that takes it like a champ.

@bailey2517

2 жыл бұрын

It's that double the rated RMS power? Zv5 is 2000wrms right? Sheeesh

@760sanchez21

2 жыл бұрын

@@bailey2517 That’s correct. I’ve upgraded over the years. I now have two Zv5 15’s on a Sundown Salt 8k amp.

@oscarishandsome5150

Жыл бұрын

@@bailey2517 SA and above series are run at double the rated power

@bailey2517

Жыл бұрын

@@oscarishandsome5150 a 4k amp? Or 4k RMS?

@oscarishandsome5150

Жыл бұрын

@@bailey2517 for burps you can clamp a lot higher but i was referring to amp power for daily setups. Sundown can easily take twice as rated

Very impressive for that E series! Looking like an EMT tending to a patient immediately getting to cutting the sub up :)

2 12s in a ported spec specific to sa 12 box 3/4 maple ply tuned to 35hz 1200 rms pioneer mono wired 1ohm Straight up slamming 💪🏽 .sundowns the real deal hollyfeid ,life time costumer 🇨🇦 watched this video before purchase thank you this video sold me on these

I stand behind your woofers all day!!

I have two of these 12 inch subwoofers running off a JL Audio Rd 1000/1. And they absolutely hammer.

Could I run 2 of these on a 2kw amp? I modeled my box and 2 ev3 10s in WiniSD and I really love the curve. Will they take 1000w rms daily on music and sometimes rebassed music just to show off?

Nice test. I would like to see a SA model vs a Nemesis Audio M series just for comparison.

Dang good stuff!! I can lie it did hurt me when it went up in smoke. I've always been a Rockford guy I currently have 2 T1 4d12s in a 4th order blowthru and just by seeing this and my buds running sundown I'm really leaning towards selling my T1s and grabbing some X12s. I'm really impressed with sundown equipment!!! Time to save some $$$, thanks guys for the behind the footage it's awesome. 🇺🇸👌👍

@thabopoo6285

5 жыл бұрын

Please tell me what 4th order means?

@saiyan_xjdm

5 жыл бұрын

Thabo Poo a sealed box inside of a potted box

@dustin1345

5 жыл бұрын

And if sundown is to costly witch it is for me i run skar more affordable and will take more that rated lower jus like sun downs I have 15 zvx on 1600 at 1 ohm been on my jeep jumping for a year now

@kingranchkennels

4 жыл бұрын

T1 are monsters

WATS the box specs I've got an ev 2 and 1200 at 1 0hm stable and and I dunno WATS the best box for it I'm thinking 4th or 6th order using win box builder

I have 2 12 ev2's, whats the difference between the v2's and v3's? Also was wondering if you were listening to music if that sub would have different results vs. having a constant bass tone.

love this video series, really wanna see you try to slow cook a x8v3!

Sent an email a cpl days ago, haven’t heard anything back, what would you personally recommend for two of these in spl box wise? Only running 1000 watt class in a small sedan. Tuning I can figure out, looking for cu. ft. And port sq. In. Thanks Derrick. Can’t wait to see more of project SPL.

On the U series subs that is amazing

So this plus a Rockford r1200.1 would be a pretty good match?

Awesome 😎 test damn tough

Guys can you test the k9 Rockville subwoofer see what actual rms rating it does because Rockville won’t tell you the truth but you will !!!! Every sundown is over engineered and true to rated power thank you guys for doing what you do !!!!

How do sundown subwoofers sound in a sealed box? looking at 1 of these or SA12

I got a 1500.1 SD at ohm 1250 I wonder if i bought the speakers can i run them at 650 instead of 500

I have a Soundstream Rub.1 1600d Class D mono block amp at 1600 watts and it's 1 ohm stable, I see that they have the D2 and D4 of this 12 inch sub, which one should i go with to get the most power out from my amp to each sub, i'm looking to grab me a pair pretty soon, Should I go with the Dual 4 ohms or the Dual 2 ohms? Any info from anyone at all that know's a lot about matching powers together would really appreciate it.!

E series is by far the best bang for the buck...my E10 is taking 750 and I beat it...

Can you do this video on the SA series?

god i love these videos lol

I run one of these daily in my car on 800RMS mounted in a tline and it has never complained. Great sub!!

@kongtv1634

4 жыл бұрын

Enough for a basshead? I'm talking heavy bass

@jamesjones4309

9 ай бұрын

Do the e series Get low bass

@fyukfuykfjympopuouiyfth940

8 ай бұрын

@@jamesjones4309 yea they do. I use the box designed for the sa-12 but with e12 sub and it geos pretty low. it also gets pretty loud and you can hear it from pretty far away. blown away for the price.

I bang 2 of these on 1200 RMS.. awesome subs for the price.. nice job sundown

Imagine trying to blow a team sundown 18 0_o

@blownvoicecoil124

3 жыл бұрын

jp blow a team neo 18

I'd like to see this same test with an SA 12

Dd 512 or sundown e12 v4. Which one is better?

Quality product gotta love it.

If this box is sealed that is very impressive.

Cool shirt bro!

good job,thanks

What’s the max power ev2/3 can take can 2 take 3500 watts

Are there vent holes on the top of that SMD dyno? Seems it would have venting on the top of it, i see alot of stuff on top of the dyno that would block them. Yes i got bored after a few mins. Of watching the sub lol so i started to look around. Great informational video none the less .

@UnofficialAudio

6 жыл бұрын

Yes there are air vents on top at the very back. They are not covered. Since our amp dyno is out on the shop floor in the heat I use a big fan on top of it to help keep it cool. It will still get hot on us at times. You'll see it as high as 130* in some dyno videos.

@ls87gbody

6 жыл бұрын

Sundown Audio unofficial ah i see. Would love to own the SMD Ad-1 . So expensive tho. Also would love to see more videos like these.

Are you gonna be testing the SA and U series next? I'm about to buy an SA 12 and I'm curious as to what power amp to run it on

@UnofficialAudio

6 жыл бұрын

Not sure what order I'll be doing the subwoofer torture tests in but they're all gonna get done.

Got the 10inch of the sub in my 1500 pretty impressive

Omg I'm so sad I bought FU750v2 18s insteada SA's... Got coil rub in 10minutes on music with solid power at about 860w clamped... Can't believe I read they called them SA killers...

X12 next? wanna see the power that coil can take

@crazyspeakerpro9584

4 жыл бұрын

Nonono The Zv.5

I had mine on 1200 watts rms at 1 ohm on the version 2 in a built to spec box & it lasted me 7 months & the reason it stopped working cuz i clipped it to death lol you can have a 300 watt rms amp but if your clipping you can still burn up the woofer even with a bigger motor guys

Was the sub fully cooled down between runs?

Was choosing between these and the sa12s, wanted these since they had a peak rating of 87db at 32hz whereas the sa12 had a peak rating of 34hz at 83db, plus they tested with a better Qts Looks like the sa's were built tougher though

140-147DB in the open damn subs killing it

I have a pair of EV4 10’S on a IA20.1 AT 1 OHM....

Cant get better then sundown.... thats a fact...

I have a single one of these ran at 1 ohm stable at about 950w RMS. Seems very underpowered to me. It's beast and I'm hoping on getting another.

@bailey2517

Жыл бұрын

Clearly it's not actually 950wrms otherwise it would blow... Why do people like you always say shit like this? It causes SO MUCH confusion in the audio scene.

@QuietWind01

Жыл бұрын

@bailey2517 LMFAO maybe educate yourself a bit. Sundown underrates their speakers usually. Their rated RMS is "safe" power but you can increase it by a decent amount for most of their products if you know what you're doing and give it actual clean power with no clipping or distortion and tune it correctly. Not to say running a Sundown above rated power isn't going to decrease its lifespan a little bit, but they're pretty durable and if done right you can safely do it for a long time with no issues.

@bailey2517

Жыл бұрын

@@QuietWind01 bro, did you even watch the video? It blew in about 60 seconds at 1000 clamped watts. You cannot run these at 950 for any extended period of time. I'm well aware of how sundown rated their subs, that's why they are rated at 500 but can take 700 all day long, but they CANT take 950.

@QuietWind01

Жыл бұрын

@bailey2517 Lmfao! There are a lot of factors when considering the safety of the speaker, not just power.

@QuietWind01

Жыл бұрын

@@bailey2517 If you're not a moron 950 isn't actually all that bad for one of these. You CANNOT think in terms of JUST power, your logic is invalid.

Hey #sundownaudio can you do a video about magnet force of your subs? Maybe between entry sub magnet force and large/beefy sub magnet force?

@UnofficialAudio

6 жыл бұрын

That's a really tough subject to document on video. There's just so many variables with different subwoofers. No two are exactly the same in every aspect except motor force. You'll also have different fs, mms, etc. which all will play a huge roll in testing. I can tell you that with all other variables the same the subwoofer with more motor force will be louder every time. In other instances a sub could have slightly less motor force but a lot less moving mass and be more efficient and louder. Or a sub's fs could match the peak of your vehicle better making a weaker subwoofer louder.

Is this clamped wattage?

It can take 600 all day long on a prime 500... never had any issues with the e12...damn good sub

@MyBlowncobra

5 жыл бұрын

Had the same set up.great budget set up.

@lookatme919

4 жыл бұрын

Facts! That’s what I’m running love it best budget setup hands down

@YoungKay213

3 жыл бұрын

I have a Soundstream Rub.1 1600d Class D mono block amp at 1600 watts and it's 1 ohm stable, I see that they have the D2 and D4 of this 12 inch sub, which one should i go with to get the most power out from my amp to these subs, the Dual 4 ohms or the dual 2 ohms? Any good info from anyone at all that know's a lot about matching powers together would really appreciate it.!

@teeceehonda

3 жыл бұрын

@@YoungKay213 if you get 1 12 a d2. If you get 2 12s then d4 wired down to 1ohm

Would like to see this same test with an SA 15 or 18

@UnofficialAudio

6 жыл бұрын

Only have a box setup for 12"s right now so will be doing this soon with an SA-12"

A real subwoofer test video

Wow impressive! Can I ran one E-12 v.4 on a 2ohm 1000watts RMS Amp or is that to risky?🚒👩‍🚒🔥

@Handlethatineedtouse

Ай бұрын

After rise even on full tilt it’s gonna get like 600 rms max

What method you guys used to power the amps in that workshop

@UnofficialAudio

6 жыл бұрын

We have full car audio 12v setups on every test bench. The amp dyno bench runs on a 14v setup. They use car batteries, head units, wire, etc.

How many watts it blow at

Anybody notice the db numbers? Firts two runs in the 146's. Lasts one emediatly in the 120's. It may not mean anything. But, Maybe that 750 watt run did more damage than he thought. Or just a different settup on the term lab. Idk.

@zaceryhammond1144

4 жыл бұрын

Hot air less dence less dence air less air moving

Where can I get sum stickers like a sundown audio sticker

@UnofficialAudio

5 жыл бұрын

www.sundownunofficial.com

I would like to know how you are reading the power output is 500-750. Did you measure the current voltage on the outputs to the speaker.

@popwarhomie

6 жыл бұрын

MrOfnalx1 The term lab magnum reads power output.

@UnofficialAudio

6 жыл бұрын

That's a TermLab Magnum in the background reading real time power output from the amplifier.

@MasterOfAllBass

6 жыл бұрын

MrOfnalx1 yes output side of the amp. AC Voltage and Amperage With power factor included with the software reading it. so real time rms

I'd love to see the sa12 done like this

@rickytrevino8281

4 жыл бұрын

He did it already

It took 1000 RMS?

Try a type r on the same test.

not trying to be mean or anything, but those IR thermometers measure in a cone. they're not pinpoint accurate the laser just tells you the general area. so you got a put the hole right up on what you're trying to measure if you're trying to measure small point. if you want to measure that coil you got a cut those vents away in the basket so The IR thermometer can directly see it

@RockeyDAproductions

4 жыл бұрын

now something I've always wanted to do is blow the speakers with an IR camera. ir cameras are expensive and i don't got a lot of money so I never got one

Destructive testing is best testing

@UnofficialAudio

5 жыл бұрын

100% agree with that. I like to test things to failure. Then readjust and do it again.

anyone notice the decible meter went up 3DB while it was looseing up?

@UnofficialAudio

5 жыл бұрын

The mic is laying on the table loose moving around. It has nothing to do with the test.

Why is it louder at 750 watts than at 1000 watts????

Im hairtricking on a single E12 just like this, love the sub!

Got 2 E15d2s in a ported box done by drew Jones..they fkn get it...people never believe I have entry level subs...lol

How much power do you recommend for 2? Have 2 ev3's and ran them on a 2400 rms amp and did great but don't want to fry them

@alexisking4316

6 жыл бұрын

You should be okay I'm pretty sure your not taking in a count ohm rise wich will affect wattage output

@UnofficialAudio

6 жыл бұрын

I recommend at least our sae-1500d or our sae-2000d for a pair of E v.3 subwoofers. As long as you're not blasting test tones non stop all day they'll handle the power fine.

@bigtymer479

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot got to check into getting one

@zvloutray

5 ай бұрын

@@UnofficialAudiowould a salt 1.5 and 2 e12 v4s be a good setup?? I’m thinking about ordering that setup please and thank you 🙏

@ 1k watts was it softly bottoming out? A lot less DB metered

@91rickstar

6 жыл бұрын

This subwoofer cannot bottom out technicaly theres more room in the bottom plate for the coil not to hit

@UnofficialAudio

6 жыл бұрын

The mic was just laying on the table. The db reading has nothing to do with the test. We only used the TermLab Magnum for clamping the power output of the amplifier.

@maxfmfdm

6 жыл бұрын

search for "Sundown E-12 v.3 Prototype" video on youtube. You will see it being pushed about 2 times as far as in this video. And the production models have even more clearance than that. I run mine with no subsonic filter my port is tuned to 30hz and I can blast 20hz at full rms and not worry about mechanical damage.

Sign the basket and send it to me. Lol

#SundownAudio My first Sundown sub was an E12. Had a single 12 on 1200 watts RMS. Never had an issue. Obviously I wasn't listening to test tones. Lmfao. But on music, it didn't mind the 1200. After about a half hr of heavy listening, the dust cap was pretty warm to the touch. But that was it.

@jonpatterson6479

6 жыл бұрын

I eventually upgraded to a single SA-12 on the same amp. Similar performance. Dustcap still slightly warm after half hr. Now I'm running 2 SA-12s on 1KW each. Again, no issues other than warm dustcaps after extended play.

@AbTekpro

5 жыл бұрын

Any sound quality differences you noticed between e & sa series? I’m running e v3 right now but the sa are tempting

@jonpatterson6479

5 жыл бұрын

@@AbTekpro not much sound quality difference. The subs are very similar other than the SA Series has a larger motor and higher power handling. I would make my decision based on the amp you are using. The E-series has a 3db higher sensitivity. But the SA-series can handle more power. Thus, the SA-series can get louder if you have enough power to send them. So I would say if you have more than 750 watts RMS per sub, go with the SA-series. If you have less than 750 per sub, then go with the E-series. The E-series will be louder on low power. But as far as the quality of the sound, they're very similar. They do great with music. Even during the loudest bass note, they can still beat with the kick drum. This is where cheaper subs fail. Good luck and bass on !!

@AbTekpro

5 жыл бұрын

Jon Patterson that answered my question. I have the new crescendo S1 running 1ohm 1500 Watts rms. I think I’m sticking to the e’s with this amp. Can’t complain but audio is a an addicting thing lmao. Plus this system is in my work van and it already shakes my eyeballs being in a small space in the front

@jonpatterson6479

5 жыл бұрын

@@AbTekpro right on man !! Just remember that amp is rigjt about the limit for those subs. As long as gains are set correctly, the subs will hold up fine on that power. 👍

Got 2 E15s on a rockford t1000bdcp making 1600 in a 7.5 cube box by drew jones and it gets down...

Sundown subs are top of the food chain... I run Sundown and Fi in my whips. #loud

@jerryellis835

5 жыл бұрын

Top of the food chain, they aren't bad but my new Orion's are 7500 rms

@DibeezyTheGifted

5 жыл бұрын

@@jerryellis835 Orion hcca subs are great. Just can't stand the baskets. I have team Fi and zv5's

@jerryellis835

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah would be nice to see better looking baskets, agreed

@danielmcbride4828

5 жыл бұрын

I don't give a shit of the baskets are hot pink with unicorns on them as long as they can handle power and bang hard that's what matters

Nice

Yes,you’re starting to get it. When you blow it up people know what it’ll take. Don’t forget to explain clipping. That’s what kills most speakers. People don’t understand that most of the time. And you should show them how to set their game knob properly. I’ve seen it done wrong on several videos on KZread. So much bad information out there.

I would like to see a sa sub video like this.👍👍👍

@rland1972

6 жыл бұрын

K Givens I would like to see the sa done like this test also

1000 rms at a little over a minute is insane. But then we have to take into consideration that it got burped for somewhere around 12 mins. I’m almost sure if they burp it at 1k for 5 mins it will take it for longer then over a minute

@SeanOMatic

3 жыл бұрын

I know companies with subs rated for 1K that can't handle this. This is some serious quality.

@bailey2517

2 жыл бұрын

@@SeanOMatic which companies? Just wondering what I should avoid 😆

@oscarishandsome5150

Жыл бұрын

@@bailey2517 skar, ct sounds, pioneer and such

@bailey2517

Жыл бұрын

@@oscarishandsome5150 lol that comment was 5 months ago. Skar is great, and CT sounds has good sound quality. Pioneer makes great head units. What are u on bro 😂. Name one sundown sub that's near the same price as a Skar sub, that's better. I'll wait.

@bailey2517

Жыл бұрын

@@oscarishandsome5150 I'm not paying an extra $500 for the zv6 12 just to get a better voice coil and more xmax when I could just spend like $400 on a ZVX-12 and get almost as good of performance for literally 1/3 the price

lmao, i have two and they handle my 2000 watt like a dream

@dantegipson

3 жыл бұрын

is it wired at 1 ohm?

@dominicknoll7398

3 жыл бұрын

@@dantegipson for 2000 watts most likely it’s 1 ohm

Doesn't the quick stop cool the coil?

@zaceryhammond1144

4 жыл бұрын

Mabey 1 degree if that he ran it for 10 min straight that things heat soaked

Honestly You can tell that’s not his first time Tearing A sub apart lol

most of the times clipping is the death of most subs, and of course, improper enclosure, we had a customer who smoked his zv5 18 by putting it in an sa-15 enclosure and just increased the diameter of the mounting hole and called it a day, he smoked it after about 5 minutes of play time on a sony xplod 500 watts amp...🤦🏽‍♂️

@SeanOMatic

3 жыл бұрын

He probably didn't have an infrasonic filter, either, so he made the speaker work harder than a methed out sweatshop slave two weeks before Christmas shopping season.

These are 2" coil subs aren't they? Pretty impressive for a budget line woofer. I bet you can get relatively loud with 8 or 9 of these on 10K... Hmmm, maybe??

@maxfmfdm

5 жыл бұрын

I think they are 2.5 inch

@DavidHarris-jy4pp

5 жыл бұрын

I'm really thinking about doing a big build with these. I guess I should order 2 12's from B-Stock to see if I like them first

@timothyhinton5665

5 жыл бұрын

@@DavidHarris-jy4pp I had these years ago B stock..they were flawless. I'm not sure why they were listed as B stock

Do you sell recones for all your subs

@UnofficialAudio

5 жыл бұрын

Yes we do including older discontinued subs.

I would like to know how you know it is getting true 500 watts

@popwarhomie

6 жыл бұрын

Again. Term lab magnum....

@UnofficialAudio

6 жыл бұрын

That's a TermLab Magnum in the background reading real time power output from the amplifier.

Skar would rate this as 1000W RMS+ shamelessly.

inches on that voice coil?

@samsonefeld4297

3 жыл бұрын

2.5

Next try to blow an nsv4

this or american bass???

My most favorite bass music has mostly constant and single low bass notes, not a lot of highs or bumps or crazy variations... High Five by Rittz, for example. Especially chopped and screwed, which is what I run in my car. My subs are years past broken in and I still smell a little glue now and then. Two Audiobahn AW1206T 12's.

This sub can take 750 watts per coil?

@UnofficialAudio

5 жыл бұрын

That's total power not per coil.

@71970eli

5 жыл бұрын

Sundown Audio unofficial but can it take 750 per coil?

In a ported box the cooling would have been better.