Thank you so much for this video. Huge project, but I think I can tackle it after seeing it done. Our GMC Terrain has 146000 miles, and it's time to do it.

@mtrunk8570

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! Hope it help!

Great video. Thanks for making this video.Very calm person and obviously a very good mechanic, easy to understand video. I need to do this on my daughters 2012 Terrain 60k miles. Not looking foward to it but watching this was very informative. The chain has been noisy for sometime now and metal shavings on the solenoids when I swapped them out a couple of times. The car burns alot of oil too, but I will just keep adding!!!!

Thank you for posting this. This answered so many questions I had about doing this job on my wife's 08 Saturn Vue with the same engine. Basically the same car. Thanks for all the work you put in making this video!

@aldenphillip765

3 жыл бұрын

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@remyanderson8526

3 жыл бұрын

@Alden Phillip yea, I have been watching on Flixzone for since december myself :D

@zanedominic8776

3 жыл бұрын

@Alden Phillip definitely, have been using Flixzone for since november myself :D

Thanks for doing this and putting it on KZread. I have a 2010 Equinox with the same 2.4L engine and may be facing the same project. The dealer replaced the balance shaft chain under the GM secret warranty program (10 years, 120,000 miles), but not the timing chain and related tensioner and guides. There is either a gremlin in the electrical system or it needs engine parts, and at 89,000 miles, just 10,000 miles after the work on the balance shaft chain, the Chevy dealer wants $5,700 to throw parts at it. I subscribe to Alldata (and Mitchell) for my Equinox, and have looked for, but have never found, the shop manual on Alldata. There is a lot of good stuff on Alldata(and Mitchell) but finding exactly what I needed on Alldata was a challenge. For anyone interested, BBB Industries makes Technical Service Bulletins for most vehicles freely available on its web site. Often you can find relevant stuff there easier than you can on Alldata or Mitchell.

@mtrunk8570

7 жыл бұрын

Anonymous98 Oddly enough Alldatadiy.com did not list you're model however if you have the 2.4L The Terrian manual will be the same.

@mtrunk8570

7 жыл бұрын

I agree that Alldatat is a bit difficult to navigate.

@Anonymous-it5jw

7 жыл бұрын

Mtrunk 85 Mtrunk 85 Thanks. Alldata does, in fact, have my 2010 Equinox, and I have a subscription for that vehicle. I was inspired by your video, but it took me a while to find the detailed information in Alldata for removing and replacing the timing chain, and it has been more difficult to find easy ways to remove, or even test, the high pressure fuel sensor that screws into the fuel rail below the intake manifold, or to clean the clogged PCV orifice that causes oil leaks and rear oil seals to blow out. I think I have identified and corrected the well-known corroded wire and bad ground problems associated with the 2010-2012 vehicles. I believe the solution to the timing chain issue will resolve the error codes for a number of the sensors, so I may not have to test each separate sensor that I have codes for. If that doesn’t work, but I will have to start throwing parts at it. (Even with a brand new, fully charged battery, I get the lights for reduced engine power, service traction control, etc., and DTC codes for all sorts of sensors, all within seconds of just cranking the engine.). I agree that the Terrain data is virtually identical to the Equinox data, and on KZread I always search for info on both vehicles at the same time. Belatedly, I did find the information I was looking for.

@jerroncrowder6261

5 жыл бұрын

Anonymous98 I’m facing the same thing 2010 equinox same 2.4. How was the job?

Thanks a milly for posting these videos and taking time to identify certain points. Fortunately, I have identify this as the problem before it was too late and Im glad you mentioned subscribing to an online terrain manual which I believe will be well worth the money. My question to you is what parts should I order and repair as I install a new timing chain kit? Valve cover gaskets, front seal, etc. If Im going to be this deep into a fix I want to be sure to replace any parts that will be easily accessible. Thanks again for your efforts!

@mtrunk8570

4 жыл бұрын

I put the parts in the information part below the video should be everything for the job.

@hitjmanup

4 жыл бұрын

@@mtrunk8570 My bad! Thanks again!

@allenhetrick7694

4 жыл бұрын

For sure do the water pump and front oil seal.

I love the duality of how the tone of your voice and the speed which you speak might lead some to think that you're unintelligent, but if you listen to what you say its obvious that you are intelligent and have done the research on the topic at hand.

@mtrunk8570

6 жыл бұрын

Joe Arreola Thank for the comment and for watching!

Great video very helpful. Have you noticed a gasoline smell in your oil? I have in mine. It seems that the root of the problem might be the high-pressure fuel pump located on the valve cover can leak gasoline into the valve cover and dilute the oil. The lack of lubrication may be why our engines look like they have never had the oil changed even though I have always changed my oil myself and I know it's getting done with the correct oil at the correct interval.

@mtrunk8570

6 жыл бұрын

I have not notice any gas smell in my oil but if you oil is very runny and smells like gas that may be your problem.

Thanks for doing this job without taking engine out. Thanks! My car has 106K miles on it; do you know how long the guides last on average?

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

I do not mine had 144k and they were still intact.

Muchas gracias por el video saludos desde Michoacan Mexico!!!!!

Great video, very informative, watched several times, need to preform the same on the wife's 08 VVT Cobalt. Nice job. Thanks & subscribed.

Scoring another LIKE on your video! Watching and Supporting!

Excellent video and explanation!... Thank you very much.

@mtrunk8570

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

Great job on the video extremely helpful , thank you

Ive got slack in my chain after doing the job, is There a way I can get it tighten? I saw where you set the tension but not sure what exactly you were doing there. Thanks for any help.

I can't help but notice that at 4:11 the dot on the crankshaft timing chain gear is not inline with the black chain link or am I mistaken? I see the crank balance shafts chain gear mark at the 6'oclock, so I don't know how the crank timing gear mark isn't at 5'oclock unless the key is not in the crank. What am I missing?

Thanks for this video. I have a 2013 Chevy equinox and it has just 50k mileage on it now. I bought it from a car dealership when is it was about 45k mileage now am having timing chain problem when I haven't used the car up to a year. What do you think made the timing chain have that kind if problem that early plus the check engine light came off as well?

@tonytruong4031

4 жыл бұрын

Cheap plastic chain guide breaking which caused the chain to loosen.

Hi, great video, but I noticed you didn't pull the grenade pin on the balancer tensioner. I hope you remembered eventually, since I saw it still in before you installed the cover. 11:22 time

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

Yes thanks for your comment and concern. I had to go back and re-watch the videos I installed the balance chain in part 2 and mentioned I would pull it out later. If you watch at 3:20 there is a clear shot and you can see that the pin is removed I guess I missed that in the video but it is clearly removed and you can see the hole in the tensioner. Thanks again!

Good job, gave me all i needed to do this job 😃

@mtrunk8570

Жыл бұрын

Thanks glad it helped.

Where does the slot on intake cam align on 2012 2.4 ecotec is it at 10 o'clock or 5 o'clock lined it up at 10 o'clock and exhaust slot at 7 o'clock but engine doesn't want to start and when it does it misses really bad and hardly has any power any help would be greatly appreciated

Hey how is that timing chain doing as of now, had any problems

Awesome video... got a question though. I'm putting mine back together and didn't have the 'white dot' on my crank sprocket. I thought the black link went to the double lines on the balancing sprocket. I knew something was wrong when I started to hand rotate the engine and got interference. Super annoyed at the moment.

@mtrunk8570

7 жыл бұрын

bicdaddy I believe the lines are on the balance drive sprocket. The white dot is on the timing drive sprocket. The balance sprocket mark is at Six o clock this is large sprocket. I believe I covered that in the second video take a look if you like.kzread.info/dash/bejne/eXun2puAm9mwkaQ.html

@bicdaddy

6 жыл бұрын

So, the washer was stuck to the sprocket... took me about 20 minutes to adjust, and it started and ran great. The only pain was resetting the tensioner... which was easy once the pita retaining washer was removed. Again, thanks for the 'how to'. Very informative.

I noticed you left the long bolt that goes through the front cover unscrewed. What is the torque spec on that bolt if you don't mind?

@mtrunk8570

6 жыл бұрын

Ross Spear-Martin it's the same as the others 18ft/lbs

Great videos, thanks! A tip for anyone doing this: Get new bolts for the balance shaft tensioner guide, and the timing chain Oiler. They are both M6x1.0 /30mm long and are at any auto parts store. One of them broke off in the block while I was torquing to 109in/lb. The other started stretching and nearly broke.

@mtrunk8570

4 жыл бұрын

Probably the best thing to do!

Where did u get the tool to get the 100 degree angle

Hello, I have a 2010 Chevy Equinox 2.6L, would the process be pretty much the same? Also, how long should a job like this take?

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

Probably around 6 to 8 hours if you are doing it for the first time. I believe it would be the same, but I would check the alldatadiy.com manual it's well worth the 20 dollar. I believe the 2010s have different phasers you can check out my video on this one is black and one is gray. They can't be missed matched.

Very well done step by step video. I have watched it again several times as I'm in the process of doing the same job on a 2012 Malibu 2.4 vvt. I had to do it after the balance chain dropped while attempting to do waterpump change. Waiting for parts to be delivered but my only concern is IF the balance shafts are able to be turned to proper positions without affecting the cams themselves. I also noted you didnt use any "special" tools to hold cams etc.. Am I right or did I miss something?

@mtrunk8570

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Delehanty you are correct all the gear are marked but you have to make sure they are in the correct positions for as clocking.

@Michael72453

6 жыл бұрын

Ok...of course the CAMS need to be in time...my question is whether or not the balance shafts turning will simultaneously turn the cams......???? Thanks again...I concur with other comments that praise your calm and clear manner of describing your work.

@mtrunk8570

6 жыл бұрын

If the balance chain is lose or off the balance shafts can turn independently.

@Michael72453

6 жыл бұрын

ok much appreciated

I am having a Situation with this same exact truck (2011 GMC Terrain 2.4) My problem is that the truck is shooting out a trouble code which is (P0014) I also have a subscription with ALLDATA and I've done every step on there in order to fix the situation and no luck. last option on there is stating that it might have something to do with the timing chain. my question to you is have you came across that trouble code before on this truck and have a clue what it might be or any advice that you could give me? Also did you have to use a specific tool to adjust the timing chain on this truck? Hope to hear from you Thanks

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

I got this code after doing the timing chain job the problem was I had not set the exhaust cam correctly and on the second try I got it right. Your chain may be loose not allowing it to function properly but it's hard to say.

Great job big job.

Спасибо , все очень понятно.

Is there a specific way to put the tensioner in. I have a brand new one

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

The tensioner has be compressed and then released once installed I showed how in part two I believe.

I'm thinking about tackling this job as i've replaced both int/ex solenoids and still getting an over advanced timing code p0014. All that's needed to make sure timing is on is to line up a colored chain lynk to a marker on each phaser sprocket? Thanks in advance.

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

It's a bit more to it than that number one has to be on TDC on the exhaust stroke and you have to load the exhaust phaser when installing I believe I cover all this in the three videos. Have fun!

@HomegrownHowTo

5 жыл бұрын

@@mtrunk8570 If its easy to explain how to know if you're TDC on the exhaust stroke vs compression stroke can you please do so? Great vid's by the way. Subscribed to your channel.

@HomegrownHowTo

5 жыл бұрын

Just saw on the other vid how to tell by looking at the crank position. is that the only way to tell? Thanks again.

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I use a long screwdriver and stick it in the sparkplug hole, not scientific but easy you can watch the screwdriver rise up to TDC on number 1. If all the Mark's line up and you load the exhaust cam it should be right.

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

The cam should pushing down on the exhaust valve as the piston rises and be closed are near closed as the piston reaches TDC.

hey in my Haynes it said cam sprocket bolts torque to 63 ft lb then 30 degrees for same motor as yours please help I don't want to break a bolt

@mtrunk8570

6 жыл бұрын

jrhgeh Using a 24 mm wrench, engage the hex on the intake camshaft, and using a torque wrench, tighten the camshaft actuator bolt. Tighten the intake camshaft position actuator bolt to 30 Nm (22 lb ft) plus 100 degrees using the EN-45059 - meter. Using a 24 mm wrench, engage the hex on the exhaust camshaft, and using a torque wrench, tighten the camshaft actuator bolt. Tighten the exhaust camshaft position actuator bolt to 30 Nm (22 lb ft) plus 100 degrees using the EN-45059 - meter.

Thanks

Great work. I have a 2010 terrain and replaced the engine with 2012 engine. I have reduced engine power and trouble codes P0089, and P228D. I was told the Camshaft and phaser was different and I need to swap them from my old engine done that now it runs horrible any ideas?

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

Well the 10' were different they had a grey and black phasers, my 11' were both black I made a video about my findings. My guess is you still have a timing issue I had a 89 if I remember correctly even bought a new pressure sensor but once I reset the timing it never came in again. But your situation is different. Do you have the 12'ECM?

@dequanb.9081

5 жыл бұрын

@@mtrunk8570 Nope I bought the engine from a local scrapyard without the ECM. I almost want to put the 2012 phaser back on the engine. It wont run as bad at idle like it does now but I still will have reduced engine power and service stabilitrac code. Seems like the 2010 is not accepting this engine for some reason just can't get it right.

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't mix match the phasers and the cams I tried to put a 10' exhaust phaser on my 11' and had interference I think it was like 90deg different can't remember now. The first time I put mine together the performance was bad but I think it was given exhaust advanced I didn't load the exhaust cam enough, after setting correctly the issue went away. I really don't know what all the differences our than that.

@snowrider5150

5 жыл бұрын

what do you mean by load the phaser?

OK,,,,I'm at an impasse with my 2.4 ecotec vvt timing chain replacement. I followed your video and placed chain at all proper locations/links. I rotated crank but timing marks dont return to their respective links. I noticed you didnt use the special phaser holding tool to tighten cam bolts. Did i miss something or were you able to just use wrench to hold camshafts when torquing cam bolts? I fear I have bent valves as I dont get any compression in #1 cylinder when I rotate crank several times. Your thoughts PLEASE.

@mtrunk8570

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah that was the same experience I had the timing marks will only line up once. I lined everything up set the tensioner and then roll it over via the crank to make sure it was all good then closed it up. That's why if something happens to your timing you have to reset it all again. Not knowing histoy it hard to say but if you can roll over freely you don't have interference if you can't you probably have valve and piston interference and your timing is way off. More than likely you just didn't load the exhaust cam correctly.

@mtrunk8570

6 жыл бұрын

The first time I did this i had the timing off a bit and it was giving exhaust cam over advanced I didn't load the exhaust cam correctly. May be your case I drove it for a while like this until I was able to take it down again. For as tightening the Cam bolts I torqued to spec plus some as my angle gauge would not fit in the space or you can just draw a line on the bolt and guess at the degrees. I just used a wench to hold the Cam shaft.

@Michael72453

6 жыл бұрын

Ok.....I did further reading on the ecotec 2.4 and found that the timing marks only return to their original positions every 16 0r 32 revolutions.....Are you familiar with this phenomenon? If so I may just put everything back together and see what happens. Ive had it apart so many times now I think I can do most of it from memory but will follow my Haynes manual and your video nonetheless. Thank you once again Mike D

@mtrunk8570

6 жыл бұрын

Michael Delehanty Good to know I didn't turn it that many times maybe 5 or 6 times. The job is getting easier each time and I know your pain that why I made the videos to try to help someone like you. You will get it!

@Michael72453

6 жыл бұрын

Successfully got timing right today and engine turned over and ran it for a few mins. Now I have a injector leak i need to investigate and also need to connect water pump pipe to distribution box/ thermostat and hopefully no leaks. I can smell the finish line finally!

Hello friend and KZreadrs: I noticed it has been a while since you performed this work on your GMC engine. Question: what was needed to be at an additional 100 degrees after you torqued the sproquets? Would you please detail it to me? I'll appreciate your reply very much. Thanks in advance.

@mtrunk8570

4 жыл бұрын

There is an angle gauge that is used to measure this. You place it on your socket. It's a pain I would like to just see a higher torque spec but I am sure they have some reason why.

@jgrm4443

4 жыл бұрын

@@mtrunk8570 Got it! Thanks a lot. Greetings from Fort Belvoir, VA.

Good job

@mtrunk8570

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment.

What if you do all this and the engine just turns over but doesn’t run? This is the issue I just ran into. Spent two days changing the timing guides and chain and put it all back together and candy get it to run. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks in advance

@mtrunk8570

Жыл бұрын

If you are sure you have the time right should start if not it may not build compression.

@Mathematik6ix

Жыл бұрын

I lined up the chain to the markings in every location. I’m pretty sure it’s in time. I’m going to try changing the rear camshaft positioning sensor. That may be part of the problem.

@mtrunk8570

Жыл бұрын

@@Mathematik6ix Did you preload the phasers I really don't remember but I thing you have to preload.

watched your video and it was helpful. But my car wont start. It sounds like when you were building up compression, whines.

@mtrunk8570

6 жыл бұрын

VANGmagg Thanks so much for watching, and sorry about your car. The first place to start is getting the trouble code so you need a code reader. If you have the code you can do an Internet search and that will give you a good Idea. Hope this helps

Good one

Great video! Could you tell me where did you get your timing kit?

@mtrunk8570

6 жыл бұрын

Rockauto.com

@kevinvillegas2287

6 жыл бұрын

I have already looked at autorock but none of the timing kits are complete

@mtrunk8570

6 жыл бұрын

I had to get both timing kit and balance kit along with all the gaskets. Also the phaser if you want to replace them.

@allenhetrick7694

4 жыл бұрын

Most any auto parts has these kits cause this is a very common problem with these engines and they mostly have these kits on stock for around 135.00 at Napa.

What did you use to install the harmonic pulley without moving the crank? Just an impact?

@mtrunk8570

6 жыл бұрын

Cody Anderson Yes I used an impact with a large Flat head waged between the balancer and the front cover just to keep it from turning. Once you get it all set make sure you turn it over by hand see this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/aohpyresaJm5paw.html

@Garnasus

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks man! Ur videos are giving me the confidence to get this job done. Manual I'm using online lists a couple different special tools to hold the phasers in place while setting the tensioner. Your little tap trick is a lot cheaper!

Again thank you, still confused how a worn timing chain can cause excessive oil consumption like some articles have stated. I don't see this happening, it would require a mist of oil that is either picked up by the PCV during high vacuum and intake snorkel at low vacuum or some for oil to excessively drip on crank and being slung on cylinder walls at a rate unable to be controlled by the oil rings. What am I missing.

@MattsRageFitGarage

2 жыл бұрын

I've seen it on a couple engines over the years. When a timing set becomes worn to the point there is slack in it, the valve timing becomes late/retarded. Lower intake vacuum, higher combustion chamber and exhaust temperatures, poor engine performance and for some reason some engines like to use more oil under these conditions as well. If the problem is bad enough, I suppose some of the oil consumption could be from evaporation from the higher piston/cylinder temperatures.

@trueamerican7034

2 жыл бұрын

@@MattsRageFitGarage what do you think of crankcase pulses messing with PCV/CCV system

@MattsRageFitGarage

2 жыл бұрын

@@trueamerican7034 It certainly can, especially if the metered orifice system is plugged up.

@trueamerican7034

2 жыл бұрын

@@MattsRageFitGarage thank you

Incredible video young man

I reinstalled everything according to your video and others, but I have a problem. thing is, after everything is reinstalled and I turn the crank by hand, I develop slack in between both vvt cam gears(phasers). it goes slack then tight, slack then tight. did you have this issue? I don't understand why it does this and can not find a video of anyone having the same issue.

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

I saw your other comment as well about loading the phasers when you have everything lined meaning timing mark with the exhaust cam/ phaser bolt loose you have to rotate the cam counterclockwise until it aligns with the pin on the phaser which is pushing down on number one exhaust valve. After that is done release the tensioner. Hope this helps. Merry Christmas

@snowrider5150

5 жыл бұрын

hope you had a Merry Christmas, thanks for the reply. unfortunately I have to ask if you can explain a little more in depth or refer to a section on your video maybe?

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

@@snowrider5150 You can look at 2:00 and 7:00. you may also want to look at my other video Phaser Update. I know that the cams and phaser have to be in the correct position. Sorry not more help but it has been almost two year since I have done this job.

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

I watched your video if you haven't changed the phaser I would but also not sure which model you have but on mine the manual did not match up with the 11' I explained in the other video "Phaser Update" it may help with your intake cam as that was the part that did not match for my year model. I know it is a pain I had to do the job twice. However I never had that much noise not even before I did the job. I would say your cam clocking has to be off and the VVT is trying to correct but can't correct that much just a guess, strange that its not throwing any codes.

@jacobcarpenter5952

5 жыл бұрын

@@mtrunk8570 I believe oddly enough that the intake phaser is different depending on the transmission you have. If you have the 6t45 trans then both cam phasers are the same.

good

@MTRUNK 85 Where are you located? Wanna do my truck next? I'm in NY, How about you?

@mtrunk8570

Жыл бұрын

It really did do much on the mpgs I get about 17 combined with a 60gal tank and a full tool box.

I did the same job, but my engine cranks a cpl seconds before starting..

@mtrunk8570

4 жыл бұрын

Great

Intake notch is supposed to be 10 oclock tdc for 2011 models. 2010 models intake is 5 oclock tdc

@MTRUNK 85 Would like to get my truck fixed, but don't think is worth it, might just get another. It seems these trucks have the same problems, I'm upset with myself, because knowing about cars, I jumped into a 2011 GMC Terrain without doing my homework. Supposedly the 3.0 is a better engine.

@mtrunk8570

Жыл бұрын

I would not buy a car like this with a 4Cyclinder the V6 is a much better buy just my II cents. Sure wouldnt buy a turbo on a gas engines it gets to hot and burn the turbo out.

@theariangoddess333

Жыл бұрын

@@mtrunk8570 Yeah, I don't even know what possessed me to get a damn 4 cylinder. Never again.

Is it a key phaser or a sprocket ????!!!!!!

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

Key phaser use oil pressure to move it more the cam advanced or less based on different running conditions of the engine and the programming of the ECM.

It's better to disconnect the fuel injectors

In your first video you said " if it jumps a tooth you may have wiped out the engine" the second video you verified you jumped a tooth... so what helped you decide the engine was worth saving? Lol you got great videos.. but I'm working on one now and I'm pretty sure the same thing happened but this car died and did not restart

@mtrunk8570

4 жыл бұрын

I was just troubleshooting as I went. I had good compression. Also depends on how many teeth were jump one probably fine. The question is did the valves hit the pistons. If they did it's probably bad, if not probably ok.

Thanks for the video. My only negative comment is that I can barely hear you when the music is playing.

Most mechanics wouls of never torques half of this thing. You really get a vetter job to do it yourself.

@mtrunk8570

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks I try to do the best that I can.

My primary crank gear doesn't have a mark on it.....😤😤

@elcaminosunlimited

5 жыл бұрын

James4wd its under the thin metal thrust washer.

@james4wd236

5 жыл бұрын

@@elcaminosunlimited figure that out after taking it back apart. All good!!

במאליבו 2400 אחרי כמה קמ מחליפים טיימנג שלי נסע 136000קמ

poor video quality and poor lighting,i did not get much out of it

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your critique!

Next time don’t speed over the torque sequence it’s really important if not done right u could get leaks then misfires. I hope you’re aware of that