I have been going round and round with my 2.4 I have a 2011 Buick Regal and this is the best video I've ever seen I swear like I appreciate you so much man

@mtrunk8570

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for that.

Thanks MTRUNK 85 I did watch and use your video for reference. I like the way you went into detail. Getting ready to install everything. You did a good job in researching the phasers. AS I SEE IT....LOL... I COULD BE WRONG DISCLAIMER...(SOMEONE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG) Its all in a single dowel hole position. Gm moved the intake dowel hole (Only change made) on the intake camshaft only in order to use the same phaser exhaust sprocket on either side and that your Phaser timing marks aligned at 11 & 2 (alot of videos say 10 and 2.) This would insure that you could not make a timing mistake if you put them on the wrong cam. You are correct, the Intake phaser GM #12578515 was REPLACED with GM #12621505 Exhaust phaser sprocket. And if set in the positions you will have interference and ruin your motor. I saw someone texted that they were afraid to start their motor after this repair. Just because of the repair at hand. So I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents worth since i also, was afraid I got it wrong...LOL So I wasnt going to start it without turning the motor as you said a couple of times to make sure I didnt have interference between the pistons and valves. This video is the best one i had found on the 2.4l . More detail and torque lbs. I hope this helps...any questions just reply here on MTRUNK"S Video... Thanks *So the first thing you should do after taking the valve cover off is to inspect the 2 phasers and see if they match info below. 2 different setups of the Camshaft Dowel Positions: Set Camshaft Dowel holes at 5 and 7 o'clock if: #1. If you have a (GM #12578515 front camshaft phaser sprocket, INTAKE) and a ( GM#12621505 rear camshaft sprocket, EXHAUST) then you would set your camshaft dowel holes at 5 O'clock (GM #12578515 front camshaft, Intake) and 7 o'clock (GM #12621505 rear camshaft, exhaust). CAMSHAFT #'S JUST IN CASE YOU ARE REPLACING THEM: Intake camshaft # 12608300 - Dowel Hole at 5 o'clock Exhaust camshaft # 12604896 - Dowel hole at 7 o'clock After the change for ....2011 thru 2017 (I didnt see check a listing for the 18 or 19 models) Set Camshaft Dowel holes at 11 and 7 o'clock if: (Both Phaser sprockets are the same ) #2. If the same (GM#12621505 front camshaft phaser sprocket, INTAKE) and a ( GM#12621505 rear camshaft sprocket, EXHAUST) then you would set your camshaft dowel holes at 11 O'clock (GM #12578505 front camshaft, Intake) and 7 o'clock (GM #12621505 rear camshaft, exhaust). CAMSHAFT #'S JUST IN CASE YOU ARE REPLACING THEM: Intake camshaft # 12634207 - Dowel Hole at 11 o'clock Exhaust camshaft # 12604896 - Dowel hole at 7 o'clock Note about the change: THE INTAKE CAMSHAFT is the ONLY part that was changed in order to use the same phaser sprocket (GM#12621505) doing away with phaser (GM #12578515). The Intake camshaft (GM # 12608300) was replaced with Intake camshaft ( # 12634207). The Dowel hole had to be changed to the 11 o'clock position instead of the earlier 5 o'clock position. This was so the timing mark on the sprocket would align for the timing chain colored links as in your video, at 11 and 1 o'clock positions.. One little hole had to be moved 180 degrees for this. GM cut costs by eliminating the older intake gear and, by changing the dowel hole in the camshaft, profitted by increasing the price of the 11 o'clock dowel camshaft to around $40 more.. Just to move a Dowel hole..LOL A win, win move for them. But as we see this engine has a big problem, so much trouble....still no recall yet. Lawsuit in progress . Maybe the recall will come shortly. PRAY YOU EQUINOX OWNERS...LOL Bottom timing Check: Just put the # 1 piston at TDC (Top Dead Center) The engine crankshaft key should be at 12 o'clock. * If you have this key at 12 o' clock the balance shaft and timing gear will automatically be in the correct positions. To check: The balance shaft (Rear Gear) has 2 marks together like this ( ll ) and should automatically be at 6 o'clock. The timing chain gear has a dot and it should be automatically at 5 o'clock position. Note if you dont see a dot there is a spacer over it. Just slide it off and you can see it. *Balance shaft gears: There are 2 of these gears , one for intake and one for exhaust. They are marked with arrows and can be turned, so place as follows: The right (Front) one is the intake gear and the arrow should be in the 12 o'clock position The left (Rear) one is the exhaust gear and the arrow should be in the 6 o'clock position So this would be your timing setup when you have all chains installed: Top End: 1. Piston is a TDC 2 Camshafts set as described above Depend on model and Phasers 3 Phasers diamonds or arrows at 11 and 2 4 Timing chain Painted links align phaser marks on 11 & 2 (Some say 10 and 2 instead for the phasers and 180 degrees opposite on the camshaft dowels would have to be called 8 and 4) I usually say 11 and 2 on phasers and 5 and 7 on cam dowel holes. As long as they are in this position the timing chain will align with its painted links as in your video. Timing chain 3 colored marks. 2 should be aligned on the intake and exhaust phasers timing marks and the other on the crank timing gear at 5 o'clock (Dot) Bottom End Check: 1. Engine shaft key is at 12 o'clock Note: If you put the key at 12 o'clock, the timing chain gear mark (#2 below) and the Balance chain gear mark (#3 below) automatically in their right positions. 2. Timing chain mark is at 5 O'clock 3. Balance shaft mark is at 6 o'clock 4. Balance shaft intake gear (Right front) is at 12 o'clock 5. Balance shaft exhaust gear (Left rear) is at 6 O'clock Balance chain 3 painted links should be as follows: 1 colored link at 12 o'clock (#4 above) 1 colored link at 6 o'clock (# 5 above) 1 colored link at 6 o'clock on the Balance shaft gear on engine crank. I know this is lengthy but if I knew this then it would have been so easy to understand. I have tried to make it as simple as I can. Anyone that can add to this let me know. I am a backyard mechanic...lol so "WHAT DO I KNOW"

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for your comment and I appreciate your step by step instructions I'm sure it will help others!

@frankdominguez2506

2 жыл бұрын

WHAT A GREAT EXPLANATION, I'm replacing all timing components on my 2012 terrain with Cloyes parts, now, I feel very confident to tackle this job. THANK YOU!

@Nelval573

Жыл бұрын

​@@frankdominguez2506did your exaust and intake sprockets have same numbers or were they different?

I ordered a timing chain kit off ebay because it stated it would work on a 2011 LAF and 2013 LEA ecotech. I was replaceing the 2011 engine in my Buick regal cxl with an engine from a 2013 Verano. I wanted to service the used engine timing components before installation. I went to the local scrap lot and retreived a cam and throttle body from another 2011 2.4 regal to save time on the swap. when I compared the cam from the 2011 and 2013 they looked identical ! I swapped out the old phasers with the new ones and the cam from the scrap yard Buick along with the new timing guides and tensioners. The engine would not start and was running a code about cam and crank improperly timed ! What I did was retimed the old engine with it being out with the undamaged timing parts I removed from the Verano. It revealed the exhaust cam in the serviced Verano engine was 180 degrees off. I checked the phaser part numbers from the old phasers from the Verano engine and found them both identical . Last 3 numbers were 505. Since the phasers were in good condition I replaced the new ones with the old and the engine ran perfectly.I checked the dowel locations on the new phasers and one is 180 off as opposed to the other. The kit stated that it would work on this 2013 LEA motor.These phasers are only colored blue and black with no intake or exhaust written on them. My advice would be to note the location of the lobes of the cam and the dowell locations of the phasers and try not to move the cam from its TDC ! If you have to turn a cam 180 degrees to make a phaser align you are trying to install the wrong part ! KEEP THE CAMS IN TIME !Hope this helps someone else .P.S. I thought Id better add for those people wondering I did turn the engine over manually 3 times to check for interference and even cranked it over with a 180 out exhaust cam and had no piston to valve contact ! Reason unknown.

@mtrunk8570

Ай бұрын

It’s been a minute but pretty much the same thing I experienced. Thanks for the context

52 of 99... Watching and Supporting!

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks again!

Make sure you remove the thin washer on the crank sprocket. The true timing dot for the crank is behind that washer.

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

That's is correct.

have you ever got the p0016 and 17 codes after doing this. after all winter i'm now getting these codes. and i changed out the vvt solenoids.

Great job on the videos. All the haters can try to do as good as you. Please keep up the good work.

@mtrunk8570

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for your comment!

@demetriusbaker1130

5 жыл бұрын

Good work

@allenhetrick7694

4 жыл бұрын

ALL THE HATERS??? YOU SILLY OLD BASTARD. I hope to hell you boyfriend isn't as ugly and dumb as you are.

Interesting - I also just had this same issue, but on a 2010. I had replaced the timing chain, guides, etc., ran the engine without issues for maybe 2000 or so miles and got the over advanced code. Also started to run rough at that time. I figured I did something wrong, so tore into it again to see things. I was able to rotate the chain several times and all the marks lined up like they originally did. Chain pretty tight, guides good, etc. The 2010 appears to use different intake and exhaust VVTs, which I did. Do not have it figured out as of yet.

@geeess958

5 жыл бұрын

Ever find out this advanced issue? Having the same issue now.

@scooby3715

Жыл бұрын

I’m having the same issue as well, I replaced the timing chain and all the guides and mine still has a horrible rattling sound. 2010 chevy malibu

Hello. I have a 2012 Chevrolet Equonix 2.4L I changed the chain with the cams set to 10 o'clock. The machine is working, but it gives a P0017 code! The instructions say that the engine 2.4 cams should be set for 5 hours, I tried to set it to five but then the crank lock does not fit! Why did you set it to 10 hours and not 5?

To reset the tensioner you can just use a screwdriver on the crimped area at the back to turn in back in.

Do you have any more issues with the engine?

I changed the timing chain and got the code p0014 only having rough idle. Then changed the phasers with aftermarket ones and got P0011. watched this video and replaced the phasers with oem this time but got back p0014 again. Tried the oem vvt selenoids, still same problem. I am positive timing is done right. Any idea what it could be?

@mtrunk8570

2 жыл бұрын

I really don't remember the detials on this anymore. Sorry

I am working on a 2011 equinox and I replaced the timing on it and now when I am sitting idling and then I push the gas pedal to start going it stalls anyone able to help me figure out why or what is wrong

I have one question what year is the motor that you're working on mine just 2011 but your cam Cam and exhaust cranks look totally different

@mtrunk8570

2 жыл бұрын

This one was a 2011 I have three other video showing the whole process.

i had that issue also. turns out the lea engine has 2 exhaust cams in it and the exhaust phasers. on my engine, the cams and phasers had the same part numbers. my valves also hit the pistons in fact i could nt rotate the crank more than 90 deg either way. after i got another exhaust phaser it worked perfectly. i matched the cams together and the old phasers had the same numbers.

@mtrunk8570

2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting.

Any updates on this? I had the same issue with the timing over advanced codes. I took it apart again and noticed the links had jumped a tooth on both the intake and exhaust. I'm almost ready to set it on fire...

@edgleason7879

6 жыл бұрын

call a locahe dealer can tell you by your vin numberl dealer. Im doing my sons 2012 verano , and it had the same phaser on both sides the parts i got were two different like Mtrunck got .To be exactly sure the dealer can tell you by your vin number

@bicdaddy

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I actually fixed the problem... I traded it in! Lol.

@Anonymous-it5jw

6 жыл бұрын

If you have the VIN, the AC Delco website can give you the correct part numbers, and you can get them locally or online from Amazon, an authorized AC Delco retailer. If your chain has jumped a few teeth but the top chain guide is still good and the other guides are not broken, don’t overlook a bad timing chain tensioner. It is cheaper and quicker to replace the tensioner with an OEM (AC Delco) part than to do a full timing chain replacement if it is not needed. It happened to my vehicle when the dealer replaced the chain for the water pump/ balance shafts under warranty and cut corners in removing and replacing the valve timing chain by not removing and resetting the chain tensioner off the vehicle, as was supposed to be done, and no new valve timing chain was installed. The dealer destroyed the internal components of my chain tensioner, but the damage can’t be seen until the tensioner is disassembled. If you remove the cam phasers to reset the timing, be sure to use new torque-to-yield bolts, typically torqued to 22 foot pounds plus 100 degrees. If this sounds like Greek, get a manual or a short subscription to Alldatadiy.com for written directions and watch a full timing chain replacement on this site or several others to be sure you understand about how to get the camshafts in the proper position and how to get the chain to correctly match the phaser timing marks. It’s not easy to do it this way, but it can be done.

I'm having almost the same issue except I haven't started the car.. my marks are in place but when I turn the crank to see if my marks are correct, the exhaust cam jumps back.. is this because I don't have oil pressure? If so, do you know how I can fix this? I'm stuck

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

Have you set the tensioner, once you set it there shouldn't be any slack. Also I have found that the timing marks only line up once.

@robertoguzman4840

5 жыл бұрын

Got it.. I installed a new exhaust phaser and followed every procedure I had to do, down to torquing everything I had to.. I'm not gonna lie I was scared to start it, but once I did it ran great.. thanks for at least getting back to me I appreciate that.. good luck to you in your future.. this video really did help

@chrisroach1203

3 жыл бұрын

so it was a bad exhaust phaser? i have the same issue

Would setting the timing be pretty straightforward if you reused the original cam phasers? I understand why one would want to replace. But just hypothetically?

@mtrunk8570

Жыл бұрын

If you get the correct ones it should be the same.

@matthewsmith4547

Жыл бұрын

I plan on just getting new cam phaser bolts and reusing my old cam phasers. So I shouldn’t have to mind this update video right? Your original 3 part instructional should be correct for my case?

@mtrunk8570

Жыл бұрын

@@matthewsmith4547 The here was I order the wrong part if I recall correctly

Phasers that fail completely... will it cause valves and pistons to hit?

@mtrunk8570

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure about if they fail but if they are not in the right position they will hit.

I can't find the video of the phaser you "repaired". Any help?

@mtrunk8570

Жыл бұрын

Check the playlist. Thanks

Hey Man great Videos, im looking ti replace chain guides ETC on my 2014 equinox 2.4L. What manial did you use to get all the timing marks etc? Chiktons ir Haynes.

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

I used alldatadiy.com the other are useless now days I have them.

@Moonshot64

5 жыл бұрын

@@mtrunk8570 thanks Man, I got the job done and found the nylon on the chain guide was causing the actuator failures I kept getting. Replaced the faulty crank seal whike I had it all off. Started right up no clacking no more engine codes. Once the timing was figured out the biggest time consumer is teardown and torquing it all back up. All in all took me about 8-9 hours. My Car proficiency level is about a 5/10 for anyone wondering about doing the job. I work on alot of mechanical things so that helps sonce that is all an engine is, a bunch of moving parts.

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

Awesome I am glad you got it going and thanks for your comments.

@Moonshot64

5 жыл бұрын

@@mtrunk8570 hey Did you say something about having to replace Cam Phaser. Everything has been running good but now getting issues starting .

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

I did replace the phasers but never had any trouble starting.

Did you reuse the balancer bolt?

@mtrunk8570

4 жыл бұрын

I did but it is recommended that you do not do this because it is stretched.

@pyrocat1640

4 жыл бұрын

@@mtrunk8570 alright i need to try and find one. You didnt need to do a crank relearn did you?

Any more issues with the engine after you replace it?

@mtrunk8570

2 жыл бұрын

Its been a while but I think we ran it about 10k after that wtih no issues.

@eleazarmartinez5483

2 жыл бұрын

@@mtrunk8570 wen you replace the Variable Valve Timing Sprocket the spark plugs was black? thank you for your time

Get you some GM actuators, throw em on, line the marks up, and be done

@mtrunk8570

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment.

@BMikeAD

3 жыл бұрын

Nope, GM ain't getting any more of my money. I would buy something better than Dorman parts though yeah.

I'm going to attempt this next weekend

@philiplittlejohn842

6 жыл бұрын

josh s k

So your saying tou changed the phaser with the wrong one and ran the car for 3k miles with valve interference??

@mtrunk8570

6 жыл бұрын

No I had the exhaust phaser installed advanced giving me over advanced error, I thought that I had the wrong phaser. So I installed the one for the 2010 and that is when I had interference, I never ran the engine like that it would trash your engine.

Can we just toss in the same ECU as the engine that's from the same vehicle & get away with it?

@mtrunk8570

6 жыл бұрын

I'm not a 100% sure but would think that it would work I have never replace a electronic control unit before on a vehicle.

tdc exhaust?

@DevJB

Жыл бұрын

2008 and after for 2.4 ecotec LE5. TDC exhaust stroke is required instead of TDC compression. Correct ! Finally someone that knows this! lol.

I watched about four seconds of the video because I don't watch videos where someone doesn't have sense to stop the door time during the video😮

2011 uses both black phasers

I have the same code after I replaced head gasket p0011

Dude

Always use GM parts and you will only have to do the job one time.

@mtrunk8570

5 жыл бұрын

Well I would agree and that is my first choice but then I have to ask myself why am I doing the job? Thanks for your comment and watching.

@beezertwelvewashingbeard8703

4 жыл бұрын

The job was already done once with GM parts, at the factory.

@forgedsteelwrench9249

4 жыл бұрын

Factory parts from GM....last i purchased from them i noticed a variation on my part and they said yes it was the improved version. So they sell all their mistake with the vehicle and then still sell you their solution in the parts department... No thanks, I will find a name brand aftermarket replacement. Ford does this too, just take a look at their plastic oil drain plugs.

@mikecouch1722

Жыл бұрын

Only if GM used GM parts😂😂

@pukitiki

Жыл бұрын

I think you missed the point. The ecotec 2.4 used 2 different phasers with 2 different part numbers with different timing arrangements up until 2010. 2011 and after they updated the cams to use the same phaser on both cams which is the same as the older exhaust phaser. GM literally sells an intake phaser and exhaust phaser for this engine but depending on the year, you either need both or 2 exhaust phasers. He ordered one of each initially when he needed 2 exhausts.

i believe i see the word "DORMAN" on those boxes.....DO NOT USE....go to the dealer and buy them

piss on the oe gm, if it is so good why does it need replaceing with low milage...also gm does not make them. these are poop from gm. as for the sensors, yes get the gm. but accuators....not.

At the moment I saw the Dorman box. I knew he was F**ked

@oscarsoto7175

2 жыл бұрын

Same thought here....when u get Dorman make sure u get a bottle of Tylenol and whisky. U gonna need it. Lmao 😂

Booooo hiss booooo Dorman cam phasers. 🤢🤮