Mozart was prolific, likely due to financial pressure to produce music constantly. Unlike Brahms, who destroyed a majority of his work, all of Mozart’s work survives to this day. I think we can all agree that the best of his compositions are truly sublime.

@alhfgsp

5 ай бұрын

I'm 25 in America, I grew up around sh** for music, Mozart is a genius in comparison.

@temperedwell6295

4 ай бұрын

No. Mozart was prolific because music just flowed out of him naturally. I think he once wrote his father that he had so many ideas in his head that there was no way he could write most of them down. It shows. Whenever a piece of his music requires a new theme, one appears. At age 10, he once sat at a piano with a singer and played variations on a theme for half an hour before they told him he had to stop.

@jojobeanz2981

3 ай бұрын

@@temperedwell6295 ok. What I could have said is that he published everything he wrote, due to pressures that existed beyond the artistic ones he imposed on himself.

@asirpagabriella5327

3 ай бұрын

@@temperedwell6295 It was just normal for his days. Bach wrote one cantata each week, and Vivaldi finished a concerto within hours. With decent musical training background everyone can do this.

@ibperson7765

2 ай бұрын

Or compare to bach and how much he wrote - and never wrote a bad note in his life.

The legendary documentary I only saw from the book... Finally got uploaded to KZread

Glenn Gould is the treatment for when classical music starts to take itself too seriously. I love it.

@carlbrooks2612

Ай бұрын

It’s a masterful satire, in large part because I think Glenn sincerely believes in the validity of both arguments. There is beauty to be found in simplicity, AND Mozart was coasting on some of those concertos. But the deeper point, I think, is that Gould is treating Mozart with an unsympathetic lens that is rarely reserved for “sacred cow” composers. Glenn was not a believer in objective truths, and my interpretation of his argument here is that entertaining the thought that Mozart was a “bad composer” we can have to identify and defend what is truly special about his composition for reasons other than his pre-existing spot on the composers’ Mt. Rushmore.

@xx133

3 күн бұрын

No, he just thinks he’s above everyone else. He centers himself in everything. He’s the most important. Me. Me me. There are passionate people in every field. He’s talented, but he doesn’t do the composer justice. It’s like rewriting Shakespeare and passing it off as Shakespeare The composer was writing from their heart, they leave area for interpretation-but to rewrite the piece almost entirely and present it as Mozart is very frustrating, and takes the experience away from a listener who likely is hearing it for the first time.

Yet Mozart Requiem is an incredibly outstanding masterpiece

@elmerglue21

4 ай бұрын

Yup, unbelievable. I think the introitus does not get enough love, and is probably one of my favorite pieces. Not to mention the transition from the kyrie to the dires irae, ending and starting on the same chord, is incredible!

@xx133

3 күн бұрын

Glenn is likes to center himself in everything he plays. It’s no longer about expressing the piece, it’s about him and being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian-and people translate that to “oh he’s a genius”.

I love both, Mozart and Gould ❤

@francoisvillon1300

4 ай бұрын

Браво! :)

@pedroajanel1752

4 ай бұрын

Yo también

@xx133

3 күн бұрын

Y haven’t heard Mozart if y only listened to Gould play what he calls Mozart

I’m so excited to see this again but in color

It always amazed me how the "mature" Mozart pleases more in childhood and the younger Mozart gets better when one ages. Glen, of course, knows why and can transfer that information in his own incredibly entertaining way... Happy birthday Wolfgang !

@apb64

5 ай бұрын

Мы любим любого Моцарта!

❤Wonderfull!❤ I like Glenn Gould.

SO incredible--Love this--thank you for posting!

Sagenhaft! Vielen Dank und LG aus Montréal, Qc, Canada

I thought Mozart was mostly elevator music until I heard the symphonies, the Masses, and the operas. The divertimenti make me divertimental. As for Gould, I love the Baroque Era, so how can I not love him.

@xx133

3 күн бұрын

Please listen to other pianists that do Bach justice. He ignores crucial markings, for the sake of sounding different, and centering himself in the piece-not for the enhancing the essence of the piece.

wow I can't wait!!!

@AFE1312

5 ай бұрын

Already available, like everything they post.

@itskowitzheinrich7520

5 ай бұрын

Два Гения вместе не уживаются. Пример,Толстой и Шекспир.

@benheideveld4617

5 ай бұрын

Yes you can…

@reaganwiles_art

5 ай бұрын

​@@AFE1312 and with better sound than here

Well, I think despite the premise Gould proves here that Mozart is indeed one banger of a composer!

Well that was amazing but I want part 2 ASAP

@rsjmd

4 ай бұрын

It's here today 2/9, and worth the wait.

Puede ser pero los chispazos que tiene Mozart en su música son estratosféricos,incomprensibles musicalmente señor Gould,es otra dimensión…..

Glenn Gould loved Mozart. There's no question. This is all him taking the piss.

@weikko79

Ай бұрын

He loved some of Mozart, which he freely acknowledges here.

please part 2!!!🙏🙏🙏😘

Only Mozart can be bad at composing and yet able to write such a beautiful music.

His effrontery was delightful!

I just love listening to two of my favorite musicians “argue” - it makes Gould’s Mozart *interesting* - *covers* rather than “a cover band” …

Inimitable GG. Always worth a careful listen. Quirky, idiosyncratic, but huge technique.

I absolutely love Gould calling it as it as he see's it. Nobody today has the balls to be this openly honest.

@danmozartiano

4 ай бұрын

Well... Beethoven and Chopin, just for mention two great composers mention Mozart's music were the greatest. Gould is dead now, it has a very particular and valid view about music, but despite of wherever he liked or not Mozart, it is not a genius like Beethoven or Chopin, just for mention two. Facts. You can like or dislike Mozart or any other composer, this is a different issue.

Sick of the falling fifths sequence? Wait till this guy hears about Vivaldi

GG official channel is back!

Compose in 5 and a half to 6 years, Don gionvanni, Marriage of figaro, magic flute, la Clemens a de tito. Compose in 8 weeks I three last symphonies.

Glenn was compelled to say things like this, was his construct. I personally do not think he absolutely felt this way He clearly enjoyed being a contrarian with a strong sense of humor. Find it refreshing to hear unpopular opinions especially today. Classical music can laugh at itself once in a while. At least he won't bore you.

@ericastier1646

4 ай бұрын

What a presumptuous comment to override what GG said and pretend he did not mean what he said. Well he did, and every word of it ! But there will be many more mediocre people like you who will wrongly assume that humor and high thoughts are mutually exclusive. A believable critic of Mozart does not have to be done in a stern, heavy and dreadful manner, it can be done in a light mood but it does not change the arguments which are heavyweights here. Mozart was and is still overrated. Yes, he used cliche and composed with commercial success as the end goal not for the highest quest in composing. Every critic that GG makes in this video is solid and substantiated and true. Mozart remains the classical fast food music accessible to many and overrated.

@peterheiman8621

4 ай бұрын

If he really felt that way, why did he perform (memorably at that) this work with Bernstein and the New York Philharmonic in 1959?

@ericastier1646

4 ай бұрын

@@peterheiman8621 answer : To give some token of adhesion to the system and be able to work in the circuit for his career BEFORE he realized he decided screw it, i am going to do what i want, say what i think and run my career without having to be a stooge of the establishment.

@ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks

11 күн бұрын

@@ericastier1646 If Mozart is overrated, I'm Napoleon.

@ericastier1646

11 күн бұрын

@@ClassicalMusicAndSoundtracks Mozart is the most played classical composer and is overrated compared to other composers and you are not napoleon who was an italian dastard no good for French people or anybody.

Plays music he hates with immeasurable "elan", statistically speaking, which would otherwise be a cliche in the hands and words of a lesser musician, one might be inclined to say "artist", were the low rent composition -- or Frankenstein's monster of sewn together parts of originally healthy and hale individual works -- capable of allowing artistry to show itself at all... Dear Glenn..❤

Gould is proof that you cannot make Mozart sound bad, no matter how hard you try.

I think, Glenn Gould really shows us what a genius composer Mozart really has been - no one could do that, but Mozart.

Glenn: "This stuff is so basic" *plays and appears to be in ecstasy*

Ohh ! Perso, j'aime autant Mozart que Bach... Mais quelle virtuosité dans l'art de l'humour ! J'adore !

@Alix777.

5 ай бұрын

Vous aimez donc la musique qui sent la vieille sacristie luthérienne autant que Mozart, le plus grand compositeur de tous les temps. Très curieux.

@ElianeAbrynoufel

5 ай бұрын

@@Alix777. j'aime la bonne musique classique. Qu'elle soit composée par des catholiques ou par des protestants ou autres.. Ce qui compte c'est le talent du compositeur et les émotions qu'il transmet... Idem pour ceux qui savent interpréter merveilleusement bien les Œuvres des Maîtres...tel Glenn Gould dans le clavier bien tempéré de Bach ...une pépite !

Humphrey Price Davies 😂😂😂

@afip4n6doc

5 ай бұрын

Yes, I went “Wait…what?!”

Don't feel bad Motzart, Mr Gould also pointed out that Bach, if he had reviewed his work would have corrected a mistake he made in one of his compositions. Mr. Gould is a unique genius with the piano & listening to him play is certain bliss, however Motzart composed for the general public to enjoy & most of us have enjoyed listening to his works, especially when Mr. Gould plays them.

@pe-peron8441

5 ай бұрын

Gould died suffering like the cripple he was, and his musical legacy is nonexistent. If you think Mozart wrote and is a composer for the 'general public', then you deserve a special place to the right of Mr Gould and his disgusting midwit interpretations, banal self-indulgent ramblings devoid of any value or merit.

It’s worth it just to hear Gould throw out such brilliant pianistc effects. Some fingers!

in fact, these are very harmless statements with more humor than malice, but people still hate GG for it. friends, just relax, this genius wanted to entertain you, not offend. yes, he really doesn’t like Mozart, but that’s just his opinion, which he presented in the form of excellent post-irony. There is far more hatred and disrespect in some people's reactions to Gould's words than in this video.

Yer killin' me, Glenn

J aime Glenn Gould

Something about him speaking with that contemptuous tone of voice and looking at the camera with those contemptuous furrowed brows, probably intentional, is hilarious lol

Rudolph Serkin I believe was listening to Gould speaking on the radio and was appalled by the things he heard, later in the program he heard Gould playing and his anger subsided.

I had no idea Glenn was so funny. 🤣

@71lupenzo710

4 ай бұрын

😂❤

I believe that being creative and having a very unique style is easier than adhering closely to the tradition and employing lots of cliches as well as technical finesse so to me Mozart is a genius. His music is both complex and incredibly easy to digest which for me is great art. But then again, I am a conservative as far as aesthetics are concerned and I don't care for the political or revolutionary impact of a work of art, I only care about craftsmanship

Y'all go read norbert elias' Portrait of A Genius

Glenn Gould was a brilliant pianist for certain things, like contrapuntal works from the late Baroque era. However, his opinions here are nothing more than nonsensical ramblings. Mozart clearly wrote his most complex and deep works during the last years of his life, his last two symphonies and The Magic Flute being obvious examples. The same goes for Gould's nonsense opinions about Stravinsky as a composer. Gould was a genious, but also one with certain autistic tendencies, which sometimes clearly got the better of him.

Curioso quando um pianista vai falar sobre a qualidade da música de Mozart só sabe sabe do Mozart compositor para piano. Para eles Mozart só compôs para piano, - funciona para outros instrumentos e outros compositores, por exemplo, Beethoven só compôs sinfonias.

Devastating, yet funny in that quality…😂

🍿 🍿

does anyone else know if there are more glenn gould tv programs like this?

@RicardoM-ze4bj

5 ай бұрын

Right I’m looking for them too

@codonauta

5 ай бұрын

In official Glenn Gould channnel here in KZread. Looking for enough you find.

6:14 🤣🤣🤣

How Glenn Gould made mistakes as a critic:

gould's humour is everything he dislikes about mozart, but what playing

Il est un specıalıtE... BurcuBlue🫒

Моцарт был наверное одним из самых больших пофигистов в истории музыки. От творил как хотел и всегда это было здорово! Удивляет после драматической сонаты C-moll K457, когда уж надо было писать в том же духе, появление легкой, по сути легкомысленной сонаты К545, но это было для него естественно, он просто стебался над всеми! После драматичнейшего Дон Жуана идет легкомысленная Кози, да пофиг!

I've always thought of Mozart at his worst was a piece of music waiting around for the soloist to go nuts, sort of the "Harpo Does Something Funny" approach to composition

Xochesh old times vernut? TI verni, ya pereyedu. Stolko galasov slishim... Vsem Xorom, tupoy tupoy!

What's wrong with sequences though?

Gould is quite unfair here, as he sometimes is with Mozart. Picking a concerto rather than other late works is a way of making his point. But the "point" of a concerto is to display the chops of the soloist. Of necessity there's going to be some noodling in the bravura passages. Gould is such a master of virtuosity that he doesn't note the showy quality intended for such pieces, because for him, it's easy to phone it in. It's also notable that he doesn't mention that other minor key concerto, #20, which he could not so easily dismiss. It was written just one year before this one.

@vilemonkey

5 ай бұрын

LOL idiot doesn't know what "lighthearted" means. derp

@Pogouldangeliwitz

5 ай бұрын

K 491 is as great as K 466. If not even greater.

Этот заголовок не корректен. Конечно, для привлечения любопытной публики сойдёт. Маэстро Гленн Гульд говорит с позиций глубокого понимания музыки, что недоступно большинству обывателей. И так рождаются клише "Гульд ненавидит Моцарта" , что есть полная чушь. Вы слушали Моцарта в исполнении Гульда, кроме как сейчас в этом видео? Моцарт в исполнении Гленна Гульда - это лучший Моцарт, когда-либо исполненный, непревзойденный, это вершина. Моцарту очень повезло, что его записал Гульд, и довольно много - сонаты, фантазии, 24 концерт. Потрудитесь послушать, господа, и вы лучше будете понимать маэстро Гленна.

Hilarious to see how many people, even half a century later, still don’t realize how much he’s just atomically trolling here lmao

Glenn Gould forgot about Mozart’s last Symphonies. They are in the top of Symphonic compositions starting with #38 through 39 to 41. Number 40 is considered to to be in the top 10 of all time. Gould was a good pianist but never composed anything. He was also quite a freak in his later years. He kept his curtains closed, wore gloves, never shook hands, crazy about his diet, mumbled through some of his recordings ruining them. He did get me onto Bach for the rest of my life but often played his work too quickly. Daniel Barenboim and others are much better than Gould. After his death at 50, the TV documentary was very depressing and dark.

Mozart has been awfully quiet since this dropped.

To see the great Gould to entertain us with his "colorful" theories is rewarding and amusing. However, we should take anything GG says with a pinch of caution... or a lot of caution. Firstly, because he had a very acute and subtle sense of humor, especially forguing parodic personalities. He could be pranking all of us in any particular point of time. Secondly, he was a well-known eccentric , with astounding (and many times untennable) POVs over several musical subject. We can love his music but not necessarily his opinions in every issue. His eccentric nature can be very well seen in his infamous (and almost unbelievable) "Steinway's back slap" incident , which had big consequences in his life and , in the long term, limited the amount of music he passed on us.

I don't know, but could it be argued that Mozart was practicing a more economical approach?

@anandapandya1

4 ай бұрын

That’s for those who crave for economy.

Humphrey Myles Davies looks like Glenn Gould! Sounds like him too.

To my ears Mozart is a boring composer possessed of an uncanny ability - every now and again - to compose music of startling beauty

it’s so painful to watch this because gould doesn’t understand the classical idiom at all. talking about a classical concerto by only mentioning the solo instrument fails to understand how these composer conceptualized the role of the soloist. in all of mozart’s concerti, he writes the keyboard at the _bottom_ of the score, because he and his contemporaries inherited this idea of the historical role of the keyboard as part of the basso continuo section! this heroic soloist we often think about in concerti emerges later-in this time it is still very much a dialogue between the soloist and the orchestra, so by playing portions of the concerto which make very little sense without the context of the whole rest of the orchestra is either a bad faith argument, or, as i said above, reflects gould’s truly bewildering ignorance

I strongly disagree with mr Gould. Mozart is a fantastic composer, and has produced the best counterpoint of any composer. It's always easy to listen to, which doesn't mean it is therefore bad Please listen to the late string quartets and string quintets, and please listen to the wind music, especially the Gran Partita and KV 410. There you can hear the most honest music and purest counterpoint. The piano (solo) music is a bit odd compared to the string music, but it's written for another audience as well. For me the best piece Mozart wrote is the string quartet KV 499. Also for the uniniciated, please listen to the greatness of the slow movement of KV 464, it contains three very odd but strangely beautiful variations, one Schubert, one awesome fugato and a Boccherini.... I love it!

Bei allem Respect vor sein Können, als ein genialer Pianist, Glenn Gould hatte ja als Komponist nie in Erscheinung getreten. 5:59 Nicht ohne Grund. Schade, eigentlich.

One can find fault with every composer. I don't like Bach's choruses in the Magnificat. Arias are wonderful. Mozart's piano trios and violin sonatas are gorgeous, as are his piano concertos. Can't think of a bad Mozart, early or late. As to Mozart being the easiest of the greats to imitate, not only is that irrelevant and untrue, Bach is much easier to imitate and parody, which detracts nothing from his greatest pieces. Mozart is the greatest composer. If one had to choose which composer to rescue from oblivion, Mozart would be my obvious choice.

@TheTrispios

Ай бұрын

Mozart is an amateur compared to Schubert

Next on our show: a renowned chemist explains why fresh air is bad for your health ...

Gould would later arrive for the Matrix!

Maybe gould has a point. But the first theme of that same concerto is so unusually chromatic, mysterious, and full of tension. How is that cliched? Also, does having a propensity of sequences automatically make a piece bad? The first movement of Beethoven 5 uses its central motif in many sequences, yet it isn't considered unoriginal or cliched

What year?

@Chopin1995

5 ай бұрын

1968

@ilirllukaci5345

5 ай бұрын

@@Chopin1995 i wonder if the Mozart explosion of the 1980's had any effect on his "health issues". And obviously the period instrument movement in Bach.

Interesting, Perhaps comic. Pretentious-perhaps to the point of being delusionally self-serving. GG was a great part of musical history, but, in the end, I think we must say Mozart had him beat. Perhaps GG knew this and just couldn't avoid dealing with it this way?

Lo interpreta,però,in modo eccezionale. Mozart cosi suonato non annoia,tutt'altro.

But how did he know an everyday life in an office that well?? I thought he spent most of his time at the piano or in a recording studio.

@dash_r_media

2 ай бұрын

I imagine a genius on the order of a Glenn Gould can pick up a sufficient understanding of the office dynamics through cultural osmosis

Kogda ya yem ya nem i glux. Tak izdevayutsa. Kto xochest lechitsa, poshli Na FIG!

is Bach not the master of the sequences and falling fifths ? And is it not possible to make any composer sound bland if you play it without any artistic conviction ? It sounds bland under Gould's fingers. That is true. With the spiritual depth and esthetic subtility of a barrel organ.

@mortenkeiser-nielsen7311

5 ай бұрын

You understand there is a lot of humor involved here?

@DietervonBraun1973

5 ай бұрын

@@mortenkeiser-nielsen7311 No matter his wonderfull sense of humor, Gould's criticism and dismissal of Mozart was genuine.

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😮😂😢❤😊

We are realists. Asuma Hello? Da a otkuda slovo Hello? potom Hi, da a otkuda slovo hi... I tak sidit, dumayem daleko poydyom ili net! Professor poluchil Nobelevskuyu plemiyu blagodarya studentam, ed el Research University.

Sprinkle a bit of salt on what Gould says about Mozart.

Looking forward to part 3, "On How Glenn Gould Became An Overblown Windbag"

Asuma why not us??? Otkroy knigu prochti, shto ne ponyatnova???? Gde vidish Romantiku? Tents Brazilatsinerin tvetsinq, nothing, Russkim dali, nothing, Anglichaninam something and so on....

No lyricism to his melodic lines in his interpretations. I think he murders it.

Is it Mozart that became 'jaded?' Or Glenn Gould? This did not persuade me.

@susanct4378

5 ай бұрын

Methinks the entire "mocking" of Mozart was intended by Gould to be a humorous homage.

I'm like 666, must mean something

Beethoven was king in his last 5 symphonies, king in a good number of his piano sonatas perhaps 8 or 10 of 32 P sonatas, then his 2do violin romence, and his fantasy for piano, chorus and orchestra. If you subtract all these pieces, he is a regular good composer. That is why Mozart is superior. You find master pieces in all genres of Mozart's music, too long the list to mention here.

@evanwyatt2862

Күн бұрын

In my opinion, every last sonata of his is a gem.

I don’t understand people who think that Mozart was better than Beethoven

@temperedwell6295

5 ай бұрын

Maybe you should try to improve your understanding of music. There are objective reasons to consider Mozart greater than Beethoven, alrhough it isn't a competition.

@HermanIngram

5 ай бұрын

@@temperedwell6295Maybe you should improve your understanding as well. The original poster is correct.

@temperedwell6295

5 ай бұрын

@@HermanIngram He is correct. He doesn't understand. If you want to engage.... Mozart's composing technique was better, he was more versatile (Beethoven not a particularly good composer of operas or for voice, in general), more subtlely imaginative, and much more prolific. IMO Mozart"s fantasie and sonata in C minor is superior to Beethoven's pathetique sonata based on it. Not to understand how some find Mozart superior? Don't get me wrong. I love Beethoven, who clearly revolutionized music. After Mozart, a revolution was needed because Mozart had done all that was possible within the purely classical framework. Who can't be awe struck upon first hearing Beethoven's fifth symphony? I consider the Appassionata sonata the greatest work ever composed for the piano because it is original in so many ways -- unusual time signature, extended coda, transition between movements, e.g. But that doesn't make Beethoven better than Mozart. Mozart's 40th symphony, for example. Is musical perfection, if such a concept exists.

@HermanIngram

5 ай бұрын

@@temperedwell6295 The fact that Mozart write more opera means nothing. The Missa Solemnis is a far greater work than anything Mozart wrote for voice. Beethoven’s output for the piano is far, far greater than that of Mozart. The artistic breath is incomparable. Mozart is formulaic and not the greatest when it comes to developing material.

@temperedwell6295

4 ай бұрын

@@HermanIngram Seriously, are you tone deaf?

The best works of mozart later years are his clarinet works, not piano.

Asuma vi Raznoy Natsionalnosti? Net, Yeli to je samoye...Female/Male.

Yes. Mozart's last piano sonata 576 in D major really sucks as do his last symphonies.. Indeed, he wrote the first movement of his symphony no. 40, while stuck in a closet. Let him out. Let him out. Let him out.

Napisali Latino Amerikanskiy Tanets nazivayetsa Nervoza Paparikuza u vaz. O, Po nashemu slovariku eto... :). Ne dodik? Papin dodik, vsyo pravilno!

Just a disingenuous critique. Demonstrating that a work is comprised of simple “ingredients” doesn’t prove it was unsuccessful. It’s like he’s eating a delicious croissant and saying “This is just butter and flour! How uninspired!” Just enjoy your breakfast Glenn.

Zachem Golovu razbili???? Knigami? Knigi lechat golovnuyu bol. :). Kamu sshas golova nujna? Ed el taneiq! Uje implant golovi delayut.

Mozart is great but too perfect for my taste.

El que diga que Mozart es un mal compositor me apiado de su absoluta ignorancia. Así mismo que sea el propio Glenn.

@galinaprozorova7903

5 ай бұрын

Великий Гульд!

Gould judging Mozart, hilarious .

Haha get wrecked Mozart

The Mozart craze in the US in the 80's and 90's damn near killed classical music.

As much as I love Gould's reinventions of Bach. It is surprising he didn't understand or appreciate the music of the greatest musician and composer of the universe.

@alkacil2504

5 ай бұрын

The greatest musician and composer in the universe" : You're talking about Bach, of course... 😁 Read elsewhere: Bach is God, Gould is his prophet ! I add, Amadeus, a priest...

@loxpower

5 ай бұрын

@@alkacil2504 as much as I love Mozart, I couldn't agree more. Bach is the Sun, all other composers are "just" planets (some are bigger than other, of course 🤪)

@GildaLee27

5 ай бұрын

Gould had his shortcomings. I often wonder how the film Amadeus might have affected him had he lived long enough to see it.

@rman52

5 ай бұрын

@@alkacil2504 Ahhhhhh Bach. Hard to argue he wasn't the greatest of the greats. I get it. His pieces are like perfect machines. But Mozart's music is so mathematically perfect it changes your brain waves to theta state. And he wrote symphonies and operas when he was a child. Both of them otherworldly in their genius.