GINGER (1971) - This Movie Exists
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The creator of "HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL" and dozens of other family friendly made-for-TV features that defined The Disney Channel for teens of the early-2000s was a legend in movies of an entirely different variety decades earlier - as director and one half of the filmmaking power couple behind one of the most notorious grindhouse "sexploitation" trilogies of the 1970s:
Now, learn the backstory of Don Schain and Cheri Caffaro's eye-popping saga - and how the lurid era of "GINGER," "THE ABDUCTORS" and "GIRLS ARE FOR LOVING" implausibly laid the filthiest of foundations for the most squeaky-clean TV movie empire ever built on cable.
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Watching a grown man go sledding only to ragdoll into the air had me dying.
@DavidLeeKersey
2 ай бұрын
I love a good dummy gag.
@j.maguire5781
2 ай бұрын
It's like they didn't have the budget for a decent 70s car bomb scene that every detective show had as stock footage.
@DetectiveLance
2 ай бұрын
@@j.maguire5781 The feeling was "we're better than stock footage! But we're also tight on the budget...I got an idea."
@ohstalon06
2 ай бұрын
I was half expecting a decapitation like in Silent Night, Deadly Night.....this was better
@danielcreamer9669
2 ай бұрын
So good
Oh my god, they couldn't afford the classic Bond skiing sequence so they're just riding SLEDS. Great episode, and great taster to the show! I've missed Bob's informative delivery style and this lived up to the anticipation.
@DetectiveLance
2 ай бұрын
Honestly, the toboggan mine explosion is kind of impressive in its low budgetness.
@SingularityOrbit
2 ай бұрын
@@DetectiveLance That . . . that must have been meant as a launched grenade, right? I mean, how could they possibly have known that he'd be the first one down the slope, and that he'd sled down on that exact path? Or, more likely, they just didn't think it through at all. Which leaves it as one of those moments of, 'Oh my god, somebody thought this _turned out well_ and then _left it in the film."_
@cainiddrie1482
2 ай бұрын
This is the best but worst you tube pic. I know I'm not saying anything new but I want Bob to do more videos where I am shocked.
@cainiddrie1482
2 ай бұрын
3/3 High school musical: I want your sweet ass.
@DetectiveLance
2 ай бұрын
@@SingularityOrbit "That's such a villain/Bond two steps ahead kind of planning." Was probably the only thought they had.
I'm happy to have seen this before it gets demonitized. Always nice to see Bob exposing some forgotten pieces of film history.
This series is like the love child of Schloctober and GEMs. Speaking of which, I really enjoyed GEMs and Really That Good. Like to see them back.
A show about movie history? Yeah, sign me up. This was super interesting.
A toboganning scene: For when your spy movie can't quote afford a skiing scene.
@fizzplease6742
2 ай бұрын
Watching them scoot themselves along with their hands to get going gave me a good laugh.
@LucasTigy2
2 ай бұрын
@@fizzplease6742 none of them had the courage to just go head first either.
Okay, speaking as a person of color, that Zootopia cutaway was the BEST THING EVER.
@danielcreamer9669
2 ай бұрын
What did they say?
@seriomarkj
2 ай бұрын
Thought it was a great drop as well, glad someone else appreciate it
@CLDJ227
2 ай бұрын
It's funny because it's like a double entandra 🤣 🤣.
@JewTube001
2 ай бұрын
@@danielcreamer9669 i think it was snow bunny, which is a white girl who sleeps around with black guys.
@chapterblaq
Ай бұрын
@@JewTube001I thought a snow bunny was an easy woman who sleeps with skiers?
So what, ginger isn't ginger? Why would they call her Ginger if she didn't have ginger hair? A trick has been missed.
@zenmastermtl
2 ай бұрын
You are putting in WAY more thought than the creators did :P
@notreallythere477
2 ай бұрын
Calling redheads "gingers" wasn't common outside the UK (and possibly Oceania) until after that insipid South Park episode.
@BlackCanary87
2 ай бұрын
Ginger Rogers was also blonde. It was a, uh, personality-based nickname.
@brucemichaelwentworth3857
2 ай бұрын
Little known fact, blondes are gingers too 😁
@Pyrian
2 ай бұрын
@@BlackCanary87 Black and white era doesn't count, lol
All I'm hearing is, "Time to reboot Ginger for the modern age," and the fact that it's existing IP means nobody can complain about it being "Jane Woke." 🤩
@HobGungan
2 ай бұрын
They always do anyway. No matter what. They have no other life.
@TasteOfButterflies
2 ай бұрын
Your comment reminded me there's a reboot of Emanuelle for the modern age that's supposed to come out this year.
@johnathonhaney8291
2 ай бұрын
@@TasteOfButterflies How many of those have there been again? Emmanuelle is less a character and more a mythic figure as a result of all that. But high or low budget, there have been MANY iterations.
7:22 Oh god that banana gag is so perfectly timed! X'D
That is one hell of a starting point, Bob. A lot of those Disney Channel movies were actually pretty good all things considered. Like way smarter and scarier and heartfelt than you would expect.
@blahthebiste7924
2 ай бұрын
Don't Look Under the Bed is an underrated classic
@peggyliepmann5248
2 ай бұрын
@@blahthebiste7924 Genuinely scary as fuck, yet still heartfelt
@johnvinals7423
2 ай бұрын
I agree. “Luck of the Irish” is a lot of fun.
@peggyliepmann5248
2 ай бұрын
@@johnvinals7423 "Luck of the Irish""Take It to the Mat" and "Pixel Perfect" especially have better music and storytelling than they have any reason to be.
This is the kind of obscure movie I expected with a title "This Movie Exists", well edited piece too with some good trivia and background.
That was the most amazing use of Zootopia I have ever seen in my life.
The sleigh Boom at 13.51..... is perfect. My thunbs up stands
Commenting mostly to help you promote this series. I would never watch Ginger, but boy is it an interesting backstory to the guy who made High School Musical.
To quote a British gentleman a friend of mine knew upon seeing Pacific Rim, "Well, that was a daft film." Having watched all three "This Movie Exists" episodes, you have quite a variety going on right out of the gate. Classic film history with an upbeat "you should probably see this" with "The Crusades", nostalgic more recent history and "yep, that wasn't a fever dream!" with "Happily Ever After", and a big dose of WTF? with "Ginger". I've always been a big fan of your film history and Gen X/Millennial nostalgia stuff and definitely would love seeing more of that, but having the odd curveball where we just marvel and laugh at sheer goofiness is also fun. Absurdity is a nice palate cleanser. Looking forward to watching the next installment in this series!
It’s movies like that are why I’m glad you’re doing this series. Just really bizarre stuff that you otherwise have no reason to bring up.
0:50 speaking as someone whose favorite podcast is Tony Goldmark's Escape From Vault Disney: ...holy fuck
Watching these back to back with this one being my first, and I gotta say, I'm really excited for this new venture. Schlocktober was always my favorite part of the year (my birthday is around then), and knowing that we get more of that energy outside of one month a year, really puts a smile on my face. Keep doing your thing, Bob. Great start to a promising series
I appreciate you covering the spectrum from “this movie will be remembered forever and this is why” to “this movie is worth your while despite its rough edges” to “this movie is trashy and goofy but just so damn fun” and now culminating with “this movie is a movie”
1:09 oh, shit! He directed Minutemen!? That’s one of my FAVORITE DCOMS. Shame it never got a sequel. That’s right high school musical fans, Minutemen is the film that deserved a trilogy. I am standing by that.
Honestly, all three of these have been great. I've always loved your "retro film review with proper context" videos and these have been no exception. Feel free to keep this one going, I think you have a winner. (I'm just going to copy/paste this on all three for the algo.)
I get a lot of amusement out of the roughies. They were often really stupid, but it gives a good sense of the culture that existed right under the surface of supposedly square, middle-class society.
Every now and then I hear someone say something like 'such and such movie couldn't be made nowadays'. With a movie like Ginger I think that's actually true.
@johnathonhaney8291
2 ай бұрын
Yeah, very much. It taps into that nasty 1970s vibe in a way that is beyond the reach of good taste and possibly bad taste as well.
This film absolutely lives up to "yeah this movie exists"
I'm a research analyst in the movie industry and some of those Disney movies have been popping up during my recent research.
This series is the best idea I think I've ever seen out of Film KZread (TM) and I'm so ready for more of this. Got the next 2 queued up already.
That ski hill where the exploding toboggan scene takes place looks familiar but that's probably just a function that a lot of such ski hills looks the same. Yeah those are definitely movies that exist...
"You're welcome for the new meme, Internet!" Bob, watching you display the open-faced weird and uncomfortable of the past is a glorious thing.
0:51 oh i remember seeing Mom's Got a Date with a Vampire ads for years on Disney Channel and saw the vhs for Luck of the Irish at the discount stores for years.
@danielramsey6141
2 ай бұрын
Oh damn! I remember that film!
0:29 I imagine that Bob got the timespan that Schain was active in the film industry wrong. Either that, or he thinks Schain went back in time to live his 74-year lifespan and still die in 2015.
I'm almost certain that if the state of Utah knew about his past before all the Made for TV Disney movies he made, they would tell him to get the hell out.
@user-jn4sw3iw4h
2 ай бұрын
Nah, as long as they can remotely credibly claim not to have known about it....
@johnathonhaney8291
2 ай бұрын
@@user-jn4sw3iw4h Plausible deniability...it's not just for covering up crimes!
Front row seats for the premiere. Go BOB!
1:26 oh snap, he did High School Musical?!
Oh, my. I saw a lot of those films on the Disney Channel while growing up. This was. Educational.
I remember seeing one of these back when Cinemax was a thing, and Cheri Caffaro had some serious tan lines.
So, I’m a fan of all three new episodes. I really like the context that all three movies are placed in. I’ll be back for every episode!
Bob, I always loved all your work and this looks like a great mixture of Schlocktober with The Big Picture. Keep them coming. I'll will post the same comment on the 3 videos because I want all of them to have engagement, but I'm not very creative🤣
Wow! Definitely the most interesting of the three videos but wonder if it's going to trigger all the YT triggers! Like this one, Snow White and Crusaders episodes in that order. The ethical, historical and political aspects of this are well done.
Me: This is like something Jack Horner made in Boogie Nights. Bob: 13:52 Me: ….What th… Can he hear me…?
Yeah, I have to admit this was my favorite. Super weird, I love it. Also, learning what kind of movies people make when they’re pure id is fascinating. More of this please!
From now on, whenever a documentarian discusses the Kuleshov effect, I expect the example to be the Neapolitan-to-whipcrack cut around 3:51
This was definitely my favourite of the 3 films chosen for the pilot in terms of what I expected "This Movie Exists" to be, in terms of very forgotten, obscure and interesting for some strange reason(like what the director went on to do in the future) types of film. I don't know if it's the kind of feedback you're looking for as someone who'll be watching this series regardless because I've been subbed for a long time and like your content, rather than a new audience member, but I am at least drawn more towards this kind of film as a topic.
“Not exactly porn but not exactly not porn,” is all timer from Bob which is saying a lot.
This actually reminds me of the “I Spit On Your Grave” movies. At least the revenge premise.
@louisduarte8763
2 ай бұрын
More than one was made?
@fnmiln8558
2 ай бұрын
@@louisduarte8763 Unfortunately yes. I watched the 2010 movie (which informed me of the original one from the late 70s), and then some time ago I ended up finding out there were 3 sequels after the 2010 remake.
@elphantasmogoro
2 ай бұрын
@@louisduarte8763 A lot of things that were made during the grindhouse era shouldn't have been made. That definitely includes two sequels to I Spit on Your Grave.
11:22 - 11:47 TARANTINO SAW THIS AND WEPT
yeah...don't think I really want to look into that one. But this was an interesting origin story for the High School Musical director and seeing how he turned things around in his career.
This is definitely the hardest to find out of the three movies you covered.
I watched the other videos in this series and have loved all of them. Whatever dorection you take these in, I'm going to wat them. That you go into the history of these movies, especially the less ad friendly ones, is admirable, and I trust you to talk about them with care, nuance, and perfectly timed jokes.
This reminds me of two things. The Resident Evil movies because that was also a husband and wife team. And that "anime" Kite because it too features an assassin who was a victim of sexual violence.
@johnathonhaney8291
2 ай бұрын
Well, if you're talking husband and wife teams (and I stress that Paul didn't make Milla an Anderson until halfway through the Resident Evil cycle), you gotta mention Roger and Julie Corman, whose own 1970s output has to be seen to believed (and was very much an inspiration for Paul).
This is why I love you, MovieBob.
I have now seen all 3 of your "pilot" videos for This Movie Exists, and I'm genuinely excited to see this series going further. I suspect that the ceiling on how successful this series can get will be a fair bit lower than Really That Good, since the series calls for shorter reviews of movies that a lot of people online have never heard of, I think that'll suit my tastes better, since I've always enjoyed you shedding light on weird, obscure movies like these. A movie I'd love to see you talk about in this format is The Long Goodbye, which is a kind of anti-detective-drama directed by Robert Altman that did poorly at the box office and was panned by most critics for rejecting the genre of the novel it was adapting. Gene Siskel, Roger Ebert and Pauline Kael all liked it to some degree, and most people who talk about it in recent years seem to take the movie for what it is, and appreciate it more than contemporary audiences and critics generally did. To give an idea of how strange the movie is, it spends the first, like, 10 minutes following the protagonist walking to the store to get his cat's favorite food, failing to find it, walking back home, and trying to give his cat an alternative that his cat rejects, and then runs away. The protagonist is a private detective.
Of your three opening episodes of This Movie Exists, this is by far the most bizarre (the movie, that is). This is not the oddest movie I have ever seen (my father screened Flesh Gordon for us back in the day), but I am certain that watching this trilogy would be an experience.
Well that was something I watched. Excellent work as usual, but I think I was checked out for a bunch of it when the movie itself was playing
Loved all three episodes of the new show, though this one might be my favorite of the three. Love old schlocky grindhouse movies and this one looks like a great series to binge with some beers and some friends. Can't wait for more!
Algorithm boosting comment: I'm really not sure what I saw, but maybe I will check it? I'm just glad the "High School Musical" guy didn't mix the fetish weird kink stuff with the family friendly stuff (Dan Schneider!). Going for the other two!
See now I have to search the copyright office database.
I'm not sure I'll ever care about this movie at all. but...the description of the types of movies talked about here are 1000% worth watching.
Damn, that was quite a rabbit hole. By the end I forgot we started with the High School Musical. This movie... definitely exists.
A really interesting trio of premiere episodes! Keep up the great work. Looking forward to more.
i first heard about the Ginger trilogy back int he early 2000s on an old text-based bad movie review site. I've seen them. i still own DVDs of them. the clip with the maracas triggered a flashback. that scene in the movie was loooooong.
The fact that they left in the slow start to the toboggan
So the evil Ginger actress in the third movie looked familiar to me. I looked her up and...well...that's Sheila Leighton, who played Luma from the Star Trek TOS episode Spock's Brain😱
@johnathonhaney8291
2 ай бұрын
"Brain and brain...what is brain?"
All three of these were DYNAMITE!!! Looking forward to more!!
I'm so hyped for these! Thank you so much - I'll probably end up putting these on whilst I'm doing art and chores ❤
Very happy with this series. Glad to follow you on this bob
All of these are great Bob, hope you make more 🙂!
Commenting to hopefully help you get some traction on this. Been watching your stuff for years, and this is a great premise for a new series. It plays to your strengths and is a wonderful successor to the schlocktober stuff.
I love the idea of this combination of film history and 'Bob watched it so we dont have to' elements of this new show.
Fascinating stuff thank you for educating me!
Now this is quality cinema
I don't usually comment ever, but I'm going to comment here and on the other two "This Movie Exists" vids because I REALLY LOVE Learning about movies I had no idea existed. For years now I kept thinking to myself "I wish Movie Bob did more vids like the Schlocktober stuff." I really hope this new direction is very successful because I for one want more.
Well, that's three winners in a row, all with a good chunk of film history. Bob, I'm honestly happy to watch any vids you put out under This Movie Exists. I trust you to always find the most interesting stuff :)
Heres to a new successful series! Oh...and i totally need to see these movies now.
Well, we do a bad movie night every Thursday so "yes" we'll be watching these. Thanks!
Love the show, looking forward to seeing more of these.
This is great. Something that Shocktober wouldn't naturally pick up but such a great use of the format. The films itself, the story behind them, the history and placement in th genre. All top work Mr Chipman. I respect you discussing more adult dare too especially as people tend to play it annoying cautious due to the dreaded algorithm
I came in with high expectations, and this video went above and beyond! Lots of fun!
Minutiae that I noticed "You rotten bastard" was followed by the sound of actual glass hitting the floor and maybe bouncing around rather than a foley sound of a glass breaking. It is realistic but not the expected dramatic sound. I don't know why that interested me other than it is interesting to see what choices a creator makes.
Love when Bob covers some ridiculously obscure stuff. I hope we get more comics are weird soon
I thought this was about the Canadian girl werewolf “GingerSnaps” movies. The weird coincidence is that this seem kinda like a Russ Meyer film… and I watched my first Russ Meyer film last night (Faster Pussycat Kill Kill)
must say, after 18 minutes of "this movie exists" concluding on "probably best forgotten" interesting statement
It is fascinating to see wht the films you only hear about.
I really hope this vid threaded the needle of demonetization. What an intensely weird and disturbing trilogy, which I think you did a good job of illustrating. Thinking format wise, I felt like I needed a little more context for the genre and other films in it (as was done in the crusades vid), but I was also kinda repulsed by the genre as displayed, so spending more time on it would’ve been uncomfortable. Contradictory, I know, but something here didn’t fully split the difference, and I don’t have an answer.
Love these. Love the new program idea. I'm hear for it.
Cheri Caffaro is honestly so hilarious in this role.
This was fun. Thanks Bob.
Keep up the strong work Bob!!
Great stuff, loving the new series!
On first viewing of all 3, I'm not noticing much difference in the productions of the episodes, but I was either cleaning or gaming while listening in the background for roughly half of them so I can't speak too much to that aspect. Other than that, what I *can* say is that I was the most engrossed in both the Hollywood history and actual film breakdown of Crusades the most, followed by the tvtown background and interesting breakdown in Snow Pale
This was great! Keep it up!
Good series of the first 3 I like The Crusades the most because it goes deep into movie history.
5:02 Speeeeeaking of which... ever consider talking about the Female Prisoner Scorpion films? It's both exactly what it sounds like but directed by someone who had far more visual creative aspirations than the genre deserved. Also Kaji Meiko-San! 😍
Jokes on you, Chipman, all I have left is morbid academic curiosity
@johnvinals7423
2 ай бұрын
Are you okay?
Love the new series so far! As for choosing a particular direction, the fact that it is so diverse is the most exciting thing, so I guess that won't help. Also, you're finally returning with obscure Hollywood lore and background insights instead of raging about right-wing dicks which I really really (I can't stress that enough) appreciate.
Definitely an interesting prequel to "as told by Ginger" 🤣
All three videos were great in their own way, but this is the one I ran to share on my socials with “You are not gonna believe this!” 😂
You may want to censor 14:24. There is a nipple slip that you missed and I wouldn’t want the video to be demonetized.
Good job Bob.
Loving this new series!