#CourtTV What do YOU think? Catch up on NY v. Rex Heuermann here: www.courttv.com/tag/rex-heuermann/?

@kristenviikinsalo6558

8 күн бұрын

I believe in due process. I also have faith in evidence and common sense. The attorneys can spin what they want. At the end of the day..again: Common sense and evidence all day long. IMO.

@Ronin4614

8 күн бұрын

Listening to that 911 call, and hearing her screams is beyond chilling; somehow adding Rex Heuerman’s photo & all that has been uncovered about him, just fits. His daughter seems to have been looking at some horrid stuff, but that does not connect her to the crimes of her father; yet 🧐🤔.

@georgewashington3555

7 күн бұрын

I believe that John Ray is a leading light in spreading the info and uncovering secrets in this case. He just gave interview on William Ramsey show along with his ass Lena.

@teegees

6 күн бұрын

💯 on Ray’s side. It’s called common sense to investigate Victoria. And yes, she is a victim as well. But being a victim is not an exonerable condition, as many killers were victims as well.

@Pixie.Little

2 күн бұрын

​@@teegeestotally agree with all your comment.... 💖

The wife just made $1,000,000 for a documentary and bought a Mercedes. Meanwhile, no sympathy expressed for the real victims. The whole family is insane.

@mimix6303

7 күн бұрын

The wife was also seen smiling in court shortly after she made doc deal.

@koningklootzak7788

7 күн бұрын

Really? I thought she needed money for her cancer treatment.

@rosemaryjohnson2569

7 күн бұрын

Didn't she do a go fund me?

@misscriminalcontemplation

7 күн бұрын

Agree - zero empathy expressed 🚩🚩🚩

@Coco9210

7 күн бұрын

@@rosemaryjohnson2569I heard that GoFundMe was suspended or stopped by the GoFundMe company. It was started for the family by the daughter of a serial killer (?? Smiley-faced killer) out of kindness when Rex was first arrested and the family was displaced after their home was searched by forensics and police.

Any family who can stay in a house where multiple women have been tortured and murdered in extremely brutal ways has some screws loose. We shall see what law enforcement uncovers. I truly believe John Ray means well and he’s trying to help the investigation. Justice for the victims is coming⚖️

@xsparklinggemzx

8 күн бұрын

I get what your saying but imagine living in a house all your life maybe they just don’t want to leave because it’s all they know

@user-hc9lp3hb1r

8 күн бұрын

Or perhaps they don't have a choice! The family is not rich and the living in the house is the most financially practical thing to do.

@DOLFANKEV

7 күн бұрын

And the inside of their house looks like a garbage dump too.

@rebeccapeach4008

7 күн бұрын

@@user-hc9lp3hb1rwhatever the reason for continuing to stay in a torture chamber it can’t be good. This whole family has questions to answer, imo. At best heads were turned but that is still a crime. Architects earn a good wage so how come they don’t have money??

@godislove4540

7 күн бұрын

@@user-hc9lp3hb1rAsa got a million dollars for an interview she did. They are not broke.

using "liskdaughter" as an online moniker is craaaaazy. that girl is fked up.

@elainecongo3827

8 күн бұрын

YEAH WHY WOULD SHE WANT TO EVEN ASSOCIATE HERSELF WITH THAT NAME...IT'S CREEPY

@KatlynHaydon

7 күн бұрын

Her father’s daughter. Sadistic.

@tagaway6173

7 күн бұрын

What is a LISK?

@29rbs

7 күн бұрын

Long Island Serial Killer ​@@tagaway6173

@davemccombs

7 күн бұрын

@@elainecongo3827 So is typing in all caps

I don’t know if John Ray is right about all of this, but the fact that Rex’s family has shown no remorse for all of these victims is stunning. I’m behind the lawyer who is doing this for free versus the ones who are raking in the dough!

@user-er6wt2rq2u

7 күн бұрын

This is why I think they all are involved in it

@KweenTP

7 күн бұрын

Agree. John Ray has been involved for no financial gain for many years. Helping families who couldn’t afford legal representation & never giving up. I agree he may not always be correct but let him talk. After all, he was instrumental in exposing a crooked police department who tied up the investigation for years.

@elizabethschweickart5545

7 күн бұрын

A big book deal for the kids lawyer once this is over. Yes wife & Daughter played the game. Sick people.

@ct5625

7 күн бұрын

You're trusting the opinions of a man who: 1. Is a private citizen. 2. Has NO ACCESS to any investigative materials. 3. Has no power to serve a warrant for information from any social media company. 4. Presents "evidence" that wasn't even posted by the account he randomly asserts was definitely hers (again, with no ability to claim that). 5. Claims that the graphic artwork you would find on a million heavy metal album covers is "proof" that she is involved (even though he can't even assert ownership of the account that merely reposted an image). Instead of the actual investigators who have so far found ZERO reason to suspect any of the family members, and who have repeatedly stated that all evidence shows they weren't even in town when he committed these crimes. Congratulations, you're no better than the average MAGA/Qanon who believes rambling Giuliani over the FACTS.

@user-ie1vf5sv3j

7 күн бұрын

Absolutely!

Its disgusting this daughter is profiting off her fathers crimes. How is that ok? All the family members are good at playing their fictional roles for the public. I dont believe Shannon Gilbert was an accidental death. This lawyer calls Victoria an art aficionado? How do we know its not something she has seen in real life? This girl didn't seem to have much of a life before her new found fame. Im sorry but if the shoe fits

@Ifucnh8tu

8 күн бұрын

Lol, that atty accused the daughter&family practicing witchcraft/demonic rituals- that’s not art….neither is cannibalism, or mutilation the human body- none of this is art, depravity and evil isn’t art… these ppl sickos, the dad&daughter, at least

@ZachNasty

7 күн бұрын

Shannon Gilbert isn't even involved in the gilgo beach murders,. It's been officially deemed an accident,. I know it's hard to accept,. It's a sad situation,.

@greatvibes8059

7 күн бұрын

I mean it’s her life

@yelinmanu7204

7 күн бұрын

Exactly

@dianabehr3169

7 күн бұрын

​@@ZachNasty Her thyroid bone was broken, that shows she was murdered!

Let her sue. Then she will have to be deposed.

@suzieqou8129

7 күн бұрын

Yep and cell phones will have to be turned over and other “evidence” will become public.

@davemccombs

7 күн бұрын

People are well aware of how this works.

@melistasy

7 күн бұрын

It's ok, some aren't aware​@davemccombs

@SHARON.I

7 күн бұрын

Maybe that's what he wants🤷‍♀️

@kevinbrazil8985

7 күн бұрын

exactly. ​@@SHARON.I

It she was mentally OK, she would have left that house immediately after the monster was arrested. She ain't OK. Her whole identity is wrapped up in the evil

@suzieqou8129

7 күн бұрын

They are weird. Period end of story. The whole lot of them.

@gryffinberner

7 күн бұрын

But she studied art and looked at art. Some of it is really warped. Could have been for one course. She didn’t create the art except for one. I wonder if she looked at Van Gogh, Monet and other famous artists too. But that doesn’t fit his story. The family is weird, no doubt. How can you live with a narcissist and psycho killer and not be weird?

@nb8665

7 күн бұрын

So because her father is a killer she needs to leave the house she has been living in and go live where? Sleep in the street? With a friend? Grandma's house?

@georgewashington3555

7 күн бұрын

John ray and his ass Lena Ajit just did new interview on William Ramsey show.. they go into details together.

@gillianbradley537

7 күн бұрын

Francis bacon was fucked up, it shows in his art....vile. Does it sound incredulous that victoria heurmanns father is a sadistic sexual serial killer and she just happens to like art that depicts death and death associated with sadism? When did ASA get the two dogs I've seen in pictures recently, sure helps you appear more like a normal family doesn't it?

Thank you Ray, never stop advocsting for those who no longer can speak. ❤🙏

If nothing else, it warrants an investigation. Wasn't Victoria's hair found on one of the victims? It's a helluva coincidence that the "art" she enjoys looking at could be drawn from her father's real-life events.

@rollergirl808

8 күн бұрын

yes

@cherylschumaker1366

8 күн бұрын

It really creepy for sure

@Bzzzzzzzz535

8 күн бұрын

Maybe she found pictures?

@melistasy

7 күн бұрын

Also, they didn't they find a book with pictures of murder crime scenes on a table in their house?

@ItCantRainForever2

7 күн бұрын

No coincidence whatsoever. Evil is evil.

Victoria wouldn't be obsessed with that cruelty to humans if she had not been exposed to what her father was doing.

@ItCantRainForever2

7 күн бұрын

Exactly! That art was definitely inspired by the devil her father.

@carlotaestrada9869

7 күн бұрын

That is SO APSOLUTLEY TRUE

@isabellrc

4 күн бұрын

Somethings way off with the whole family. I held out hoping what I see is just innocent, yet a strange family. Aaaah, NO!!!

@LauraBrandenburg-qi9qf

3 күн бұрын

She isn't missing any limbs.

@szbalazs2073

3 күн бұрын

Bullshit. There are many gore artists and that doesn't mean they are killers. Just look at death metal album covers. Are all those artists serial killers?

First I heard she signs as LISK daughter! WOW 🤯 that’s pretty telling! 1000 wows!!!!

@Darlene-zw2ki

2 күн бұрын

Very shocking ! She isn't even defending him but instead glorifying the accusations

GOD be with you Mr Ray

Thank you for giving John a chance to speak! I agree with him 100%. What they’ve found related to her is NOT normal and anyone who normalizes it needs to check themselves. Way too much to be a coincidence.

@evesther1789

7 күн бұрын

Exactly!

@ct5625

7 күн бұрын

You don't even know anything is related to her. He doesn't know who owns that social media account, neither do you. All of this insanity is based on his "belief" that a random social media account among billions is owned by her. Based on nothing more than a hashtag or an image filename. Listen to yourselves. You're all absolutely insane.

@whitecat587

7 күн бұрын

@@ct5625and yet here you are, repeating yourself twice….

@ballball-zx2rb

7 күн бұрын

@@ct5625 Her attorney's response about her loving art and which artists she likes kinda just admits that the account belongs to her

@whitecat587

7 күн бұрын

@@ballball-zx2rb exactly! And it wasn’t just art- it is what she reads, searches for, and re-blogs! What they found is SO dark and disturbing, I question the mental stability of those who are defending her! The fact that this type of art and writings are even a thing in our world is terrifying !

@8:11 Wait.. She signed off, online, as "LISK DÖTTER?" Like how the Icelandic would spell daughter ? Uhhhhh that's hard to deny.

@ewingshannon

7 күн бұрын

Yeah, the wife is from Iceland. She's driving around in a new Mercedes, yet still no sympathy expressed for the victims.

If the police won't tell the truth about this entire family thank God the investigative community has told the truth!

@orangewarm1

8 күн бұрын

what truth? do you know how many Gen Z people post that crap?

@dsoule4902

8 күн бұрын

Based on what? Do you know the family? Were you yourself involved ?

@ashleeostroff2340

8 күн бұрын

I watch trials and keep up to date with true crime regularly. That in no way means I am a SK or an accomplice to a SK. This is absurd and so defamatory. These people are gonna get sued like crazy for that press conference. This is all circumstantial and means nothing without facts and evidence.

@i.vonmontez943

8 күн бұрын

Investigative community? You mean, armchair detectives?

@ct5625

7 күн бұрын

Oh ffs. Here come the conspiracy theory nut jobs!

I watched the press conf which goes into better detail. She's def a sick individual and needs to be thoroughly investigated.

@evesther1789

7 күн бұрын

Most definitely 💯

@gillianbradley537

7 күн бұрын

ASA looks like she's trying to portray herself as a gentle, frumpy lady who has dogs. How can she possibly know about husbands crimes, she looks for want of a better term, sexless but looks can be deceiving. I hope their pets are rehomed. There are cases where couples commit crimes together and I'm not saying ASA and Victoria have been involved in ACTUAL crimes but logically, how can they not have been aware of his crimes? They LIVED with heurmann, to live with him meant you had to bend to his every whim. It's odd that wife and daughter haven't expressed any bad words about him, not have they expressed sadness for the victims. It just doesn't add up that you can live with a man like heurmann and you come out unscathed. Unless you agree with, are like him, like who and what he is. Victims of domestic abuse try and leave their partners, give evidence against them in court. Not to diminish victims of sexual and or domestic abuse but what is currently alleged about rex heurmann takes sexual abuse and violence off the chart. You can't live with him without either accepting him for who he is or walking from him through fear and disgust. ASA and Victoria choose to stay in the house and stand by him.

There are no coincidences. She should be further investigated as any LE would do. All family members who lived in that house. Full stop.

@davemccombs

7 күн бұрын

If you actually paid attention to the content instead of racing to make your own comment, you'd see that law enforcement THOROUGHLY INVESTIGATED HER AND DEFINITIVELY CLEARED HER OF ALL SUSPICION AND WRONGDOING. John Ray is going for publicity. You fell for it.

@ItCantRainForever2

7 күн бұрын

Have you seen the artwork? It's purely demonic.​@@davemccombs

@Witless_Prosecution

7 күн бұрын

His family hasn't been cleared. They don't have any evidence (at least that had been released) of the family's involvement, that's not the same as being cleared. The wife met at least one of the victims as she was brought to their house for swinging. Their circle of swinger friends included high ranking police. There is so much we haven't found out yet. And so far we have been limited to mostly NY murders, there are other states investigating as well.

@lavieenrose73

7 күн бұрын

Exactly

@georgewashington3555

7 күн бұрын

John Ray talks more about it on William Ramsey show..

is the defense lawyer for real?? Geez, her father did not commit a little act of murder, but disgusting acts (allegedly) & her & her mother's reaction is of no remorse whatsoever...still living in that house. Not normal behavior at all!!

@Sofia.K.CheerYT

6 күн бұрын

True. You don't go to sleep and have breakfast on top of a basement and house that was used to torture girls to death, with the smell and things of your murderous relative laying around. They are fecked

Justice for Shannan!

@joy4434

8 күн бұрын

❤💔💔💔yes Shannon needs justice

@sofiaalee

8 күн бұрын

Justice for Shannon & all the victims 💔

@hollyfabiani

8 күн бұрын

And Shannons mom!

@evilqueenyiayia

8 күн бұрын

Shannon Gilbert she's the reason these girls were found. The rest of the family story is awful. 😔

@LoraHari81

7 күн бұрын

For Shannan even 🙄

Keep digging Mr. Ray thank you for bringing this to the light!

@joanhenderson113

7 күн бұрын

YES

@stephenlennon7369

7 күн бұрын

Digging for publicity 😅

@NameOmitted

Күн бұрын

Everything he said has been disproven. The art was not made by her or reposted by her. The family is nuts. He does not have to make stuff up.

Excellent interview Vinnie with John Ray. You were respectful and gave him an opportunity, without interrupting, to explain his position.

Does her attorney ever deny it is her drawings/paintings/writing? She is disturbed. Maybe it is genetic. Who would stay in that house? I don't feel sorry for their house being torn apart-what about all the women who died there?

@victoriasadler1426

8 күн бұрын

There’s not enough sage to sage that house and cleanse it from the demons. I would never want to live in a house like that. 😳

@beez991

6 күн бұрын

Nope, her attorney didn't

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree the daughter is a freak

@katjay3125

8 күн бұрын

Shes a dude

@annodomini7250

7 күн бұрын

Takes one to know one.

@GenderLoin

5 күн бұрын

Actually, ur incorrect. Females do not have paraphilias. How many sexually deviant female serial kllrs are there? Give it a rest. She’s a product of her environment. This doesn’t come from inside her.

Didn't she work at his firm and live in his house? Seems like a lot of time together.

The.hotel said they weren’t there on 7th .They arriveed on the 17th. The family lied

@ewingshannon

7 күн бұрын

Liars and con artists.

@LauraBrandenburg-qi9qf

3 күн бұрын

The bible said it.....there will be 2 people in a field one is taken one is left....2 people in a bed (not neccessarily together) one is taken one is left...etc...etc... about half of the people today are evil.

@RoseNZieg

3 күн бұрын

imagine if that broke the alibi to this family that kept going out of town during the alleged murders.

They don’t want to sue because that leads to more discovery

@subrosa4792

8 күн бұрын

John Ray wants to question the family, and if they sue him, he gets to question them. He WANTS the family to sue him!

@goldengoose97

8 күн бұрын

Exactly instead of saying he doesn't want my client to sue if that lawyer was serious he would be in the process of suing him but he knows that more Discovery will come out there is a trial if it's not defamation and it's the truth.

@joy4434

8 күн бұрын

@@subrosa4792 yes yes and yes imo

@jabbermocky4520

8 күн бұрын

Yup. They have been counseled to keep the lid on that can of worms. No claims could legitimately be made that the family are "victims" of media or of Mr. Jay. The suspect hasn't even been tried yet. These crimes are so heinous and so sensational that any factual information is useful to the public. The knowledge that Victoria has been dabbling in snuff porn for many years is quite alarming. We need to know. Nobody can protect us from serial killers except ourselves. Education is EVERYTHING. Stay far away from people who defend Victoria's "artwork" as free and innocent self-expression. It's a blatant symptom of a sick mind.

@elaineleduc7948

8 күн бұрын

Absolutely.... And it's all true. Atty John Ray has kept this case alive. If not for him, RH would still be out there.

I believe there’s truth in what that lawyer is saying he’s been studying this case for years and he seems genuine

@ct5625

7 күн бұрын

He's accused three different people of murdering Gilbert when all available evidence suggest it was an accidental death. If you think this guy is the most credible then you clearly haven't been paying attention.

@gillianbradley537

7 күн бұрын

She wasn't screaming for the fun of it, can you say she wasn't being chased? Her hyoid no e was broken, difficult to break unless you're being strangled that is.

@annedavis3340

Күн бұрын

​@@gillianbradley537 people don't have to scream for the fun of it. You can have a psychotic break, genuinely believe it, and be experiencing a fictional and irrational series of events. Her driver and her client both sound perplexed. The client even asks the driver to bring her home and removes himself from the situation. Unlikely those two would be in cahoots. It's really sad. And it's also sadly pretty common for families to want to believe their loved one was murdered. It feels better to think someone took her from you than that it was just bad luck that did. Lawyer is a relevance chaser now chasing fame. The fact Shannon's family fired him and he stuck to the case doesn't mean it was his own kindness, it's the most nationally famous case he's been near in his life, and see. People know his name cause he hung on anyway. I've listened and listened and listened to Shannon's call. I've listened for the background noise, not just what is said. She had a break and it was just shitty luck she got away into a wilderness area, the area is really overgrown and dense, and she got lost in there and died of exposure and possibly hypothermia etc. 😔

Totally agree. Victoria may have been groomed initially but at 27 she knows right from wrong. If she has been involved she can no longer be considered a victim when she had the opportunity to walk away from what she knows is wrong. These were atrocities inflicted on true victims.

@SueP-jg9vx

7 күн бұрын

You guys are insane. Anyone can see that the reason they are standing by him is FOR THE DOCUMENTARY. it is part of the DEAL. remaining friendly with him, staying in that house, means MORE INFO for the MOVIE. get it? They did not stand by him before the deal. they need MONEY

@ItsTifahTifah

7 күн бұрын

But at the same time, if you were raised that way, how was it not normal to you

@SueP-jg9vx

7 күн бұрын

my comment was deleted. a-holes

@imd2565

7 күн бұрын

Post traumatic stress disorder is lifelong and will heavily distort what is right and wrong, but in the eyes of the law that’s not enough for a crazy person defense

@SueP-jg9vx

7 күн бұрын

@@imd2565 i feel like in today's world, most of us are walking around with some degree of PTSD.

How can that lawyer talk about John Ray and about he’s only doing it for money when he and the suspected serial killers family he represents with the kids lawyer made a tv deal with peacock

@marionrosannaanna4590

8 күн бұрын

It’s a pity Vinnie didn’t point that out about money and Peacock deal.

@ewingshannon

7 күн бұрын

What an outrage!!!

@ewingshannon

7 күн бұрын

​@@marionrosannaanna4590Absolutely!

Mr. Ray you are invaluable Sir! The family knew and are just as culpable in my heart.

@BridgetSmith-nb2pz

7 күн бұрын

They real-life the hills have eyes😡

@couchprincess698

7 күн бұрын

@@BridgetSmith-nb2pz They’re all evil. Make them pay back all the welfare they received. I’m so glad Mr. Ray is still speaking out.

In my opinion I find it very difficult to believe the family knew nothing and it is very possible that at least one of them was sucked into this dark killing . All suspects and all should be investigated

@lilyrose7082

8 күн бұрын

I agree! I don’t believe I wouldn’t have known what was going on in my house! Especially a small house!

@cherylschumaker1366

8 күн бұрын

Absolutely that house is very small I'm sure they knew in that house when someone e even goes to the washroom ..come on !!

@rhondapage2644

8 күн бұрын

Right, how could you not know what’s downstairs? As a child or teen I would want to know what’s behind that locked door. What is so secret and off limits…..if in fact it was off limits. I just don’t get how you don’t know every room in your own house for all those years. I would have been spying on my father wondering what s he up too down there?

It’s very telling that the family doesn’t want to press charges against the lawyer for defamation.

It’s obvious they’re hoarders - the house is disgusting. I don’t think the cops can make it look any worse by searching. As for the family, they’re all just unkempt and weird.

@aces553

8 күн бұрын

True. And they had money. He had a successful business and several properties. They still lived, like you said, unkempt and weird.

@sarahLeigh34

7 күн бұрын

This just made me picture the hills have eyes family from the movie. With all the vacations they always took overseas, out of state for days on end, and time share properties, I doubt they were ever broke. I do believe she was to young to be involved or helped him with the charged victims but I dont think that art obsession is normal. Also I dont believe he stopped in 2010 either he was still looking up girls, buying burner minutes, and thinking he was untouchable.

@PoliticalJunky101

7 күн бұрын

@@sarahLeigh34 I agree 💯 %

Team John Ray ❤❤

Ohhh, the Peacock deal is "neither here nor there"-? How convenient after accusing someone of cashing in on such a case. Why is it "neither here nor there" exactly-? The "LISK Daughter" & her squeaky clean family members being forced to be part of the Peacock deal or are they choosing to be part of the entertainment? Will they be cast as victims in this piece? I hope no one watches it. Are these allegations untrue? Are they really slanderous or defamatory? Great-- sue him! What's stopping you?

its so strange that these folks say Shannons death was accidental... she was being hunted down by multiple people that had nefarious plans for her she was desperately terrified according to her 991 call for help. .. She was likely their dinner plan ... she is a hero for leading officials to the others, she should be given more consideration in this investigation...

@kingjoseph5901

6 күн бұрын

Higher ups are tied to this, that's the main reason it's being covered up.

@LauraBrandenburg-qi9qf

3 күн бұрын

And Rex is the hinge the entire door is swinging on. He is in a VERY , VERY bad spot.

We believe you Mr Ray you keep it up thank you for what you’re doing. Don’t let the less informed commentators detract from your mission . Shannon was murdered 🥲

OMG! I took six years of art and I would NEVER give a moment or post these horrific images. The Heuermann daughter’s lawyer absolutely disgusts me!!! Making excuses for her interest in these demonic horrific images is repulsive! Make no mistake, her lawyer just admitted that these are her postings!! Smh

@marionrosannaanna4590

8 күн бұрын

Her attorney was highbrowing Victoria, pity he didn’t respond about how nasty n her fixation.

@orangewarm1

8 күн бұрын

Gen Z are into all that. doesn't prove anything.

@magneticjanet5881

8 күн бұрын

@@marionrosannaanna4590 so true

@sofiaalee

8 күн бұрын

Absolutely

@virgosaab4618

8 күн бұрын

What is all that junk in Rex’s basement? Wonder if authorities sifted through all that stuff.

I think it must be investigated thoroughly!

@user-hc9lp3hb1r

8 күн бұрын

Do you really think the DA hasn't been looking at the family already?!? I can't believe the naivete of "internet sleuths" who all think they are Perry Mason.

@ct5625

7 күн бұрын

The ACTUAL investigators have been doing that. This random private citizen doesn't have any access to any case information or the investigation. This moron doesn't even know how the internet works. He categorically doesn't even know the ownership of any online social media accounts. He is basing all of this complete nonsense on one social media account that he cannot even claim belonged to her.

If this chick is guilty, she just got exposed. Funny how darkness comes to light.

@ItCantRainForever2

7 күн бұрын

Amen

I’m sorry but…. That crap is NOT art. People who think that’s art, have a screw loose!

@Juke582

8 күн бұрын

It’s art to those sickos! Some of the gross art she is into is cartoon art of macob images!

@Weissguys6

7 күн бұрын

It’s absolutely inhumane and demonic!

@ItCantRainForever2

7 күн бұрын

It seems like the elite have an eye for this artwork like John Podesta.

@ct5625

7 күн бұрын

Then you need to speak to every art historian in the world who appreciates the dark classics by artists like Goya, Bosch, Caravaggio, Géricault, Rubens and about a thousand others. Many of those paintings are priceless today. You're just artistically ignorant.

@Sofia.K.CheerYT

6 күн бұрын

True, it's just slash content/illegal porn lol

This keeps getting more sick and twisted.

I agree with Ray,this awful human being couldn't have done this for this amount of time that the family didn't have a dam clue.

@karensorrentino7604

8 күн бұрын

💯

@marsukarhu9477

8 күн бұрын

Plenty of killers do that all the time: the green river killer, btk, golden state killer etc... they all did it for decades while having families, they were just good at lying, compartmentalizing and were basically superb psychopaths aka they just didn't give a damn about their victims.

@lilyrose7082

8 күн бұрын

The entire family is involved! Just because other serial killers work alone, I don’t believe he did!

@arneliashort4647

8 күн бұрын

@@marsukarhu9477those people weren’t bringing their victims around their wives and children ……huge difference

@ct5625

7 күн бұрын

Almost every other example of a serial killer with a family committed their crimes without their family knowing. You're literally turning reality on its head to suit your need for more drama.

Keep digging Ray .. I believe there is something going on here

I don't know why anyone would want to look at that kind of content, more so now (if she wasn't already) aware of what her father is accused of. I imagine I'd be horrified and sickened? I guess I shouldn't judge, but I kind of am. It's sus, and disturbing as hell.

@sofiaalee

8 күн бұрын

I agree 💯

@y2ksurvivor

8 күн бұрын

We need to judge people more, honestly. Societal shame has an important role in a functioning society. As always, the human pendulum tends to swing wildly from one side to the other with little regard for the middle.

@cherylschumaker1366

8 күн бұрын

Innocence dot look at this kind of demon content....

@PollyAlice2000

8 күн бұрын

Thank you! “Not judging” is highly overrated. It lapses into telling people they shouldn’t use their honest judgement. Tell it like it is!

@susanpotts3691

7 күн бұрын

I agree you got to be somewhat sick to enjoy that can I even say artwork😢

Why is no one investigating the possibility of a police connection? It was mentioned early on and abandoned

@Chezsey

7 күн бұрын

Absolutely!!! Between what he told about getting away with burying the body and the cop who said they "were playing a game" it sounds like at least one cop is suspect.

@Sofia.K.CheerYT

6 күн бұрын

100%. This is a sex trafficking ring. People post content for profit on the dark Web, this guy had his whole life around it. Swinger lifestyle with the wife in the house, 50 hotel keys, as many phones. The entire basement is an operation for luring victims. That's no different than a pedophile or sex trafficking ring. And the cop was involved in it too. This is the tip of the iceberg.

@XxMaddieMalicexX

6 күн бұрын

Because so many of them knew and went to clubs where he procured them girls, allegedly

@XxMaddieMalicexX

6 күн бұрын

Clubs or house parties I dont remember

@nolimitstrength

5 күн бұрын

@@XxMaddieMalicexX right I remember it was mentioned that there was a connection between the police chief and the sex parties or prostitution at least

Keep up the good work John Ray facts aint defamation🙏⏳🙏⏳🙏⏳🙏

@ct5625

7 күн бұрын

These are NOT "facts"! He found a random social media account, asserts it belongs to her without any evidence to support it, and then shows you pictures that account liked or shared and uses that to claim she's somehow involved in gruesome crimes. He's going to be sued for defamation, she will win.

As much tech and stuff they seized from that shack everything needs to be investigated. Throughly.

@ct5625

7 күн бұрын

They're doing that. This guy isn't, because he's a private citizen with no access to anything, including any social media account data to prove who owned what account. You're believing the statements of a lunatic who doesn't understand the difference between a computer and a social media account.

❤❤John Ray❤️❤️💕

I been following this story since they arrested Rex. It's a cold cruel story. I can't imagine the torture they went through.

@brendaclauer2307

6 күн бұрын

Make my heart hurt 😢... prayers for the families of the young girls 😢 J/S

Why does the daughter wear her backpack on the front of herself?

@Juke582

8 күн бұрын

The fake image!

@Weeks25

7 күн бұрын

Because her an her mom both come off as a little on the different side.

@sixstrings1063

7 күн бұрын

She wants you to think she's an innocent school girl

@beez991

6 күн бұрын

Maybe covering what is on her shirt?

@sixstrings1063

6 күн бұрын

Is court tv removing my comments, censoring free speech?

The press conference speaks for itself.

@TheScratchingKiwi

8 күн бұрын

Yes, it was an argument constructed out of wet paper bags and sticky tape: 'She is an artist and has an artistic identity: OOOO, she must be guilty of something! She wears clothing with skulls on: OOOOO! She must be a killer! BURN THE WITCH!" Such accusations have more weight against people arrested for a crime. But this woman has not. Not arrested, not charged. Simply put, Mr Ray is slandering someone because it benefits him and no-one else.

@carmine_

8 күн бұрын

Right furry butt plugs lol wtf

The lawyers for the family are SLIMEBALLS 🤮

@dsoule4902

8 күн бұрын

Mitev used to be John Ray's partner in their own law firm

@aces553

8 күн бұрын

​@@dsoule4902Interesting 🤔

@Juke582

8 күн бұрын

Yeah he is a liar with red face here!! Calling the public names is disgustibg too! It IS what we see that’s for sure! Those art images are absolutely depraved beyond belief and a true depiction of those victims!

@vvrriissvvllaadd

8 күн бұрын

I don’t understand who committed suicide but I am sure it was not a suicide

@rachidluildha2676

7 күн бұрын

​@@vvrriissvvllaaddthe lawyer will claim that Shannon died from the sequels of her autopsy

They do not believe he is capable of these unalivings but yet the wife filed for divorce before the ink was dry on the warrants.

that attorney for the "lisk artist" shame...what a waste of a career

@gillianbradley537

7 күн бұрын

Money talks. There's too much evidence on rex heuermann to discount him as th

@gillianbradley537

7 күн бұрын

There's too much evidence on rex heuermann to discount him as the lisk. It could be mere circumstance that she likes gross art but I wouldn't discount her or ASA heurmanns involvement in the crimes just based on proximity to the murders, the swinging, heurmanns to do list. The lawyers representing asa and victoria are not concerned about their possible involvement, they are greedy. This case is going to make them very rich. They don't care if they make money from other people's misery. John Ray has shown he has morals and at the end of the day, it'll be proven that the family knew what he heurmann was doing. They are all messed up, how could you not be living with a vile, violent sexual predator who has to dominate EVERYONE?

Victoria is a freak for sure!

I think the daughter saw some stuff & other killers kids have had similar experiences so not so far-fetched

Vinnie is amazing how he handled this. Such class and so professional💫

@claudiabTV

2 күн бұрын

💯agree!

Amen John Ray 🙏 Thank you for not being dissuaded.

John is 100% correct

@kingjoseph5901

6 күн бұрын

Yup, there's also a lot more to this.

What i cannot get over is the difference she has been dressing from her picture on this site and even on X. In her picture on X her hair is impeccable and its nothing like the way she dresses now. I mean she goes overboard to look sloppy.Its like she hiding what she really is .

@princekareem

8 күн бұрын

Bingo

@y2ksurvivor

8 күн бұрын

Exactly. How full of herself to think people wouldn't be able to link her depraved online accounts back to her. Sloppy.

@dsoule4902

8 күн бұрын

Hmmm. Like Gypsy Rose Blanchard, who doesn't walk around in every day life licking a butcher knife

@cherylschumaker1366

8 күн бұрын

Absolutely

@erikaxchristine

8 күн бұрын

Right? Then she’s dressing like a bohemian Gypsy or something lol just off

Wait Shannon had a broken neck bone that could have been consistent with a strangling. She can't be ruled out as one of his victim just because she fought hard to escape he probably couldn't take his time like he did with the others so that may be why there were inconsistencies between her and the other victims injuries

@ItCantRainForever2

7 күн бұрын

I agree

@ct5625

7 күн бұрын

She was ruled out of being a victim by the examiner who stated that the cause of death and nature of her injuries were not consistent with a physical attack and they were consistent with an accidental death. Maybe they got it all wrong, but I'm going to trust the opinions of a medical examiner over the opinions of a random private citizen who has spent years blaming every male ever perceived to be in the vicinity at the time of her death.

funny how mom said "is it was it is" and immediately played sad mom with "disabled adult children" is this what disabled adults that still live with mom do??

@princekareem

8 күн бұрын

Victoria is not disabled and that isn't claimed. But she infantilises herself - she's close to 30. Asa's son (Rex's stepson) has an intellectual disabilty

@twobees1860

8 күн бұрын

And didn’t the mom also say she had cancer? Funny how there’s no word on that lately. That WHOLE family needs to be investigated

@orangewarm1

8 күн бұрын

huh? one is disabled. how do you expect her to act? let's imagine it happened to you -- your husband is charged with murder, cameras are outside your house, what are you gonna say? how are you gonna act?

@dsoule4902

8 күн бұрын

... had to be terse not not set off tongues wagging. Like yours

@princekareem

8 күн бұрын

@@orangewarm1 I wouldn't stay in said house but that's just me. Especially if my family owned a more quiet property in South Carolina and I had also received a million dollars from Peacock

"It is what it is " drives me nuts 🤬🤬🤬. Please people stop saying that.

@heidifolk8621

8 күн бұрын

Said by anyone in a losing battle lol… I hate that phrase so much 😂😂

@ItCantRainForever2

7 күн бұрын

It's a cop out

@valmarie4883

7 күн бұрын

Totally off the subject but my most recent English language pet peeve is people incorrectly using the word “whenever” instead of “when”. Am I the only one noticing this?! Seems to be mostly younger people with a southern accent. “Whenever I went to my MeeMaws house last week we made homemade butter”. I keep hearing it and it’s making me a little nuts. 😂

@tripface78

7 күн бұрын

It reminds me of someone I was once very close to so I actually like seeing and hearing the phrase. It brings that person close to me. I really miss him alot.

The wife and children seem to be a little out of it imo. I am thinking they were all abused in one way or the other, but the daughter seems stranger to me after finding out the dark side of her art and her supporting her father. This family had no idea about their father/husband? I think the adult children seem a little slow and it may be from torture or some kind of abuse. Did the father make them participate with LISK murders? If the daughter is doing things with dark art like this, I wonder if she experienced, helped with the murders or seen some of the murders or dismemberment happening. Very strange family...all of them! I thought Heuermann was an architect and they make pretty good money from knowing a few myself, and yet the home was run down, and they look like they lived in poverty. Heuermann had to be gone a lot and they had no questions about his whereabouts? There is more questions than answers about this case.

@rachellandry3116

8 күн бұрын

the occult is alive and well.... many little monsters making the art, consuming it, and acting deranged fantasy out on vulnerable people..

@caseycat

8 күн бұрын

​@rachellandry3116 oh please. Don't turn this into the new age satanic panic all over again. I have shirts in my closet with skulls and Cthulhu on them and you don't see me on the news as the 2024 BTK. Please. Real people are far scarier then spooky cartoon devils.

@LluviadeOrugas

8 күн бұрын

I heard somewhere that the crimes took place when the wife and kids were on vacation in her home country of Iceland

@ItCantRainForever2

7 күн бұрын

People like John Podesta.

@barbaragalliera9846

5 күн бұрын

He was spending all his money buying property in the Carolinas apt./time shares in Las Vegas. Buying 300 guns etc.

Why do you have Ray on if you are going to bleep out half of what he says?

@ct5625

7 күн бұрын

Because they know he's likely to be sued for defamation based on his insanity, just like Giuliani, and they don't want to be implicated in it. At the very least, Court TV is going to be called for any future defamation case, simply because they have facilitated in his defamatory claims.

@kingjoseph5901

6 күн бұрын

Right? That's why I can't stand alll these LGBT stuff. So much has to be censored now so their feelings don't get hurt🙄

@stephaniehopkins994

4 сағат бұрын

​@@kingjoseph5901Oh is THAT what he was saying? Like the Furry stuff? I couldn't figure it out.

That whole family looks homeless

@ItCantRainForever2

7 күн бұрын

And they have plenty of money

She looks just like her dad.

They knew 😈😈😈

I'm not sure what to think in regards to the daughter. At first, I thought that maybe she was using LISK to somehow get more attention to her art via social media, but finding out now that she has scrubbed it all, I'm not so sure 🤔

@princekareem

8 күн бұрын

She got paid at least $400k to appear in the Peacock show (ongoing filming) and having all that stuff out there wouldn't help with the image they want to create

@melistasy

7 күн бұрын

​@princekareem that's how much they paid her?! Her lawyer denied it.

@radiolefantome8936

7 күн бұрын

I think she was intelligent enough to figure out daddy was the lisk killer . Are 1 of them.they are plain Jane's but seems more intelligent than there looks..

@ItCantRainForever2

7 күн бұрын

Like who would pay money for such garbage? Most likely people with money like John Podesta. There is obviously an intended "evil" audience when it comes to specific art such as this.

@tracysmith3076

7 күн бұрын

I sure as hell would not pay a penny for it. But, yeah there are a lot of sick people

I hope Rex's family doesn't make money off the murders of others . HOW SICK

Victoria's lawyer is full of it. JR is really doing the investigation

Victoria Heuermanns Lawyer said “She is an art aficionado” 😳 That’s one way of looking at it!

@Sofia.K.CheerYT

6 күн бұрын

She is an art aficionado the way Hitler was an anthropology aficionado lol

@sofiaalee

6 күн бұрын

@@Sofia.K.CheerYT 🤣😆

He might be pushing for a lawsuit.. then he gets info.

@ct5625

7 күн бұрын

He doesn't even know the difference between a "computer" and a social media account. You're putting far too much intelligence on this ignoramus.

Disgusting that the daughter would stand by her father and seek to profit from this

@annodomini7250

7 күн бұрын

Innocent until proven guilty.

@blacklisted4885

7 күн бұрын

@annodomini7250 maybe legally but he's been charged. You know you need evidence to charge someone right. It's not just a 50/50. You think he's just there for fun? He's clearly not innocent

@annodomini7250

7 күн бұрын

@@blacklisted4885 As he is clearly not innocent as you say, why bother with a trial.

@blacklisted4885

7 күн бұрын

@annodomini7250 It's the law. So you think it's a 50/50 right? You think he was charged for a laugh

@Sofia.K.CheerYT

6 күн бұрын

​@@annodomini7250yeah but it's been proven to anyone with an IQ and common sense

What justifies the wife Asa taking a million dollars to give the "inside" story of these horrible murders? Money. Unforgiveable.

@ewingshannon

7 күн бұрын

Yes, and what about the victims, as the wife is reportedly driving a new Mercedes?!

@leslieacoca5876

7 күн бұрын

@@ewingshannon Is that true that Asa has a new Mercedes? Appalling

Why then, why live there,? Who would stay in that hole? And ny the way, they're getting 7 figures from Peacock, excuse me if i don't have a lot of sympathy....and Victoria is the one who put herself online as a cannibal, torturer, etc.

Victoria may love art but loving that type of art?? Is definitely not normal!!

The attorney for the family is not at all credible. He is only saying what he has to say because he is working for the family. Let a full investigation take place and let the whole truth come out.

@LauraBrandenburg-qi9qf

3 күн бұрын

THE FAMILY

The family knows what he was doing how can you hide this at your own house 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

@fanaxlbailey3709

7 күн бұрын

And the wife was definitely taking in part is his acts , Nobody can ever change my mind on that .

Lmao, yeah she just coincidentally posted the exact depictions of the tortures those girls endured. Maybe she had some telepathic connection with her dad. No way she was aware of anything 🙄

@ct5625

7 күн бұрын

You don't know the details of what the victims endured, no member of the public does. You have invented that in order to allow you to claim not only that she definitely owned that account (with no evidence that she ever did) and that she's published details only an accomplice would know. You're building a conspiracy theory on a base of total bs.

"What you SEE." "it is what it is." In other words we look innocent don't we. Totally support Ray. How coincidental that this is what she chooses to state.

That's the tip of what we will see in this case

With all the info that's starting to come out on just how detailed & planned out this maniac was, there may be dozens & dozens of young ladies who he may have slaughtered. In other states too since he traveled so much. I don't think he always acted alone either, to what extent, I'm not sure and I think his family, which I don't know, was knowledgeable of some part of it.

@rollergirl808

8 күн бұрын

Dr. Gary Brucato stated he suspects Heuermann has groups of bodies in different states. He believes he has his little collections of human remains so he can visit the victims

How anyone can think Shannon Gilbert was an accidental death is beyond me. There are no coincidences. So she just happened to be with a client in the area that RH was operating in? She just happened to run off where he dumped other bodies? All of that is coincidence?

@Vonne292

6 күн бұрын

Shannon wasn't a old women with brittle bones no way did her throat bone get broke by falling down

I love John Ray I think he's amazing .And I appreciate his insight.

Who knows what they have been subjected to or maybe even forced to do

I think that calling John Ray a carnival sideshow deserves a lawsuit.

Their poor dog!!!!😢😢😢😢

Of course they're not going to sue this guy. That would open them up to discovery

@princekareem

8 күн бұрын

There won't be any defamation suit, mark my words. Victoria posted that stuff and she's taken money to appear in a docu series making her a limited public figure. Ray saying she posted that stuff is true

@sl11tenderhand

8 күн бұрын

What he's doing is literal defamation. The police took all of the family's devices so if there is anything amiss they would be aware of it. He is obviously in it for the publicity.

@LadyLuck13

8 күн бұрын

@@sl11tenderhand I don't doubt he is looking for publicity. I can't say if she was involved in anything nefarious but I do think it's proven her art is very close to the bone, literally

@delsi1204

8 күн бұрын

Exactly 💯

@sl11tenderhand

7 күн бұрын

@@LadyLuck13 Individuals are allowed to like things that other people find distasteful without being accused of murder.

Who calls themselves liskdaughter if they are sickend by their father being accused of such a thing? Then who even searches for these sites with gore? wtf? never mind contribute artistically or appreciate the art? THE ANSWER isnt about gods/devils/mickey mouse, rights and wrongs or good v evil. Its brain chemistry. Just be glad most of us have a brain that feels emotion and love. Im glad i think its sick. Just like being a defence lawyer is not about facts its about interpreting facts to make your client look human and innocent.

I really dont think that anyone would make this all up More investigation is needed I believe John Ray How can she work with children and view that sort of disgusting art "

If the daughter was involved Rex probably did some things openly .

Mr Ray ❤

This is the case that Will keep On Giving. we’re not even half Way there. And from a “young woman’s” Perspective.. Mr Ray is right. She could be a lil More compassionate. To the victims and families

Deep. And sick all around.

It’s runs in the family it’s called genetics

@b.valentine5283

8 күн бұрын

I think it's nurture vs nature. Both of her parents are absolutely disgusting

@cynthiaconnors183

7 күн бұрын

Bingo!!

I dont buy that crap from her attorney at all. Why did she use DAugter of Lisk as her user name. That is too close to home than they find that book. Yes she is the daughter of Rex but she is no child, she is an adult, and there are young woman that can be serial killers, and it seems the apple doesnt fall to far from the tree. An lets just say what John Ray is saying isnt true the police still need to look ito all of this regardless. They were told about Rex;s truck and they blew it off he could of been caught a long time ago. I have yet to see anyone disprove what John Ray has said. EVeryone is just saying that he is far from the truth. Why hasnt anyone sued him yet than,

She's been announcing on social media that her father is the LISK. Wow.